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Braves vs. Cardinals Series Preview

The Braves have started every series in first place since before I started writing for Talking Chop, so this is a completely new experience to me. The Braves are still holding onto a playoff spot as they are two games ahead of the Giants, but there is certainly still hopes for a division championship as they are tied with the Phillies in the loss column.

The Cardinals are struggling to stay in striking distance of the Reds as they are six games. With that said, this is obviously a huge series for both teams. It would be devastating to either teams chances of winning their division if they lost three of four.

Pitching Matchups:

Thursday, 7:10pm EST: Jair Jurrjens (7-4, 4.10 ERA, 3.85 FIP, 2.03 K/BB) vs. Adam Wainwright (17-10, 2.34 ERA, 2.93 FIP, 3.61 K/BB)

As good as Jair is, this matchup goes in favor of the Cardinals. The former Brave farmhand turned Cardinal ace is having a tremendous season and has had his fair share of success at Turner Field. In Atlanta, he has a 1.80 ERA over 15 innings and three appearances, two of which were starts. For his career against the Braves, he has a 2.00 ERA over 36 innings. Jair will have to be on his game tonight in order for the Braves to take the series opener.

Friday, 7:35pm EST: Mike Minor (3-0, 5.33 ERA, 2.66 FIP, 4.43 K/BB) vs. Chris Carpenter (15-5, 2.90 ERA, 3.68 FIP, 2.93 K/BB)

It doesn't get much easier for the Braves in game two. The Cardinals are throwing yet another consistently good big right-handed pitcher against a young Braves starter, so hopefully the offense can somehow scrape some runs across early to give Minor a lead to work with. Minor got hit up quite a bit in his last start, allowing six runs and nine hits over just four innings. That start spiked his ERA but his .407 BABIP points to him being rather unlucky. If he keeps pounding the zone and missing bats then Minor will have success the rest of the season.

Star-divide

Saturday, 4:10pm EST: Tommy Hanson (9-11, 3.58 ERA, 3.43 FIP, 3.02 K/BB) vs. Jake Westbrook (7-10, 4.46 ERA, 4.40 FIP, 2.10 K/BB)

Hanson has been worrying me as of late. Even with his two solid starts back-to-back, he has seemingly lost his ability to strike batters out as frequently as he was earlier in the season. In his past 44 innings, Hanson has just 25 strikeouts and 12 walks. His ERA is thankfully at 2.86, but his luck on balls in play has completely changed as his BABIP over that span is .191. Hopefully, Hanson can continue to get players out after contact and with strikeouts on Saturday. Westbrook is a pretty bad pitcher, there's not much more to say about him. If the Braves lose the first two games of this series, this game becomes one of the bigger ones of the season, in my opinion.

Sunday, 8:05pm EST: Tim Hudson (15-7, 2.41 ERA, 3.71 FIP, 1.95 K/BB) vs. Kyle Lohse (2-7, 7.13 ERA, 4.29 FIP, 1.63 K/BB)

Lohse's inability to stay healthy or pitch well when on the mound is one of the biggest reasons for the Cardinals struggles this season. After an impressive 2008, Lohse has been injury prone and bad, which is about the worst combination you can have as a starting pitcher. Hudson has been anything but injury prone and bad this year. His ground ball rate and dominant sinker have him in the running for the Cy Young and he should be able to shut down the Cardinal offense as he has most other offenses this season.

Cardinal Bats:

The Cardinals have pretty much a middle of the pack offense this year. They sit at eighth in runs and ninth in wOBA. This is at least somewhat surprising, given the fact that they have Albert Pujols, Matt Holliday, and Colby Rasmus, plus they had Ryan Ludwick for a good portion of the year. The problems with Rasmus are unfortunate for the Cardinals because he is such a talent, but it may end up being a great thing for the Braves who could show interest in him this winter. Jon Jay has hit well this year, but his .322 average is fueled by an unsustainable .368 BABIP. The annual starting catcher for the All-Star team has a .291 wOBA this year, obviously a great selection!

Cardinal Bullpen:

The bullpen as a whole has a 3.67 ERA, which is respectably ranked sixth in the N.L. Their FIP, however, ranks third to last, in front of only the Diamondbacks and Cubs. It seems as if most of their success has been a mirage. Kyle McClellan and Jason Motte seem to be the biggest culprits, posting ERA's under 2.60 and FIP's over 3.65. Even so, these are their best two pitchers in their 'pen and both have the ability to get players out. Ryan Franklin has 24 saves and has blown just two, so getting the lead before he enters is obviously optimal.

Poll
Who scares you more?
Adam Wainwright
261 votes
Chris Carpenter
66 votes
Albert Pujols
437 votes
Matt Holliday
14 votes
All-Star Starter Yadier Molina!
63 votes

841 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted Pujols

But would have selected “any lefty relief pitcher emerging from the pen” had it been an option.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 9, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice that we miss Garcia this time...

and Wainwright has really been struggling of late, so hopefully he doesn’t have a welcome home coming of sorts (cause St Simons ain’t really close to Atlanta).

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 9, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding Hanson......

…..I see the dip in K’s, but is his velocity down any? THAT would be the only thing that would worry me. Sabathia’s K rate is down considerably this year and he’s having a ton of success with ground balls, oddly enough. Not comparing the two, just saying that his low K rate as of late would only worry me if it came with a dip in velocity…..

by Undocorkscrew on Sep 9, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

His velocity

Was down a bit last start. Sitting around 90-91 mph

by DreamWithinADream on Sep 9, 2010 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would like to chalk it up to the workload

However, his innings total this year is still well below what he reached last year. Maybe this is something to be a little concerned about. Of course, it could be nothing and he’s just fine, which is what I hope is the case.

by swainzy on Sep 9, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

may have waited a little too late to get my Bobby tribute tickets on Oct 2

according to braves.com they’re completely sold out and stub hub is getting pricey

A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....

by ATLBRVS_19 on Sep 9, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I bought my tix on stubhub and it was way pricey. I figured what the hell, bobby’s only retiring once, and I’m assuming the division will be decided during that weekend.

by ryantex on Sep 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bought mine after glaus and heyward went back to back with 2 outs in the 9th followed by an extra innings mclouth walk off hr against the phils back in april. I decided right there that this season was gonna be awesome and i wasnt missing the decisive final series or bobbys last regular season game. Tix were probably cheaper then

by Alex H on Sep 9, 2010 1:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was planning to come down that weekend but can't now

wah

I am going to see them spank the Nats on the 25th though.

by nuftjedi on Sep 9, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miss Cleo prediction:

We’re gonna shell Wainright and he’ll pitch 5.1 innings. Lohse returns to form and shuts us out for 6 innings before we validate staticians everywhere by making their ERA regress to their collective FIP.

After which Cristhian Martinez suffers a humiliating shoulder injury when he brandishes a victory Push-Pop skyward when we take the final game of this series, and ultimately 3 of 4 games.

"C'mon Chip!"

by DuPu on Sep 9, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I can certainly see us taking 3 of 4

But the Braves have this pesky habit of letting crap pitching beat us. If we beat Wain AND Carp just to lose to Westbrook and/or Lohse I will curl into a ball in the corner until I atrophe to death.

by king of games on Sep 9, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

you could see us taking at least 2/3 from pitt didn't you?

No more we should win “X” number of games this series, cause it only hurts us

Jason Heyward...great guy

by KINGSLYTUT on Sep 9, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying we should win 3. If anything we SHOULD split. I just hope we can steal a game from either Carpenter or Wainwright and beat the pitchers we should beat in Westbrook and Lohse. But who knows with this team, they seem to hit better against aces than crappy 4 and 5 starters.

by king of games on Sep 9, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves dominate at home and the Cards suck on the road. Hopefully that will be more important than who pitches.

by redwards95 on Sep 9, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Been thinking about this:

I want to know what factors make the home/road splits for the Braves hold water. I mean, Turner Field doesn’t throw very many park factors into the fray aside from larger dimensions than the average park and incredible humidity during the summer months.

Does fan involvement really help our team that much? Does the feeling of being on the road in general seem to hinder our performance? Am I reaching too much to seek understanding in random variations?

"C'mon Chip!"

by DuPu on Sep 9, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

It’s mental. Offensively, the Braves are late-inning, reactionary hitters. Thus, when at home, there is a level of comfort in knowing that they have the last at bat.

Being on the road causes them to have to force the issue and put too much pressure on themselves.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 9, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This series could be crucial for the Bravos,it could be a make or break depending on how we play and the Phillies play.I hope we don’t play like the last series with the Bucs.We need this series and especially this game,if we win we’re tied if we lose we’re down 1 game.

by BravesMania on Sep 9, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I picked Yadier; anyone that hits as crappy as he does is bound to start raking against the Braves.

-Yellow Jackets, Braves, Falcons, Hawks, and Thrashers fan!

by ChrisK562 on Sep 9, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Not Yadier...

Unless someone on the team calls the Cards whiny b*tches…

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 9, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also hits well against us and it always pisses me off

by Braves24 on Sep 9, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Missed

The Brave’s Offense. This scares me the most in this series.

If the Braves can get to Wainwright tonight it will hopefully set the stage for a good series, but if not it might set the stage for a frustrating one.

by dragonhawk26 on Sep 9, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

This might sound crazy.....

…..but I’d like to see McLouth start in center tonight. He has some success against Wainwright in a small sample size, but I like the matchup and Nate has been swinging a bit better as of late.

by Undocorkscrew on Sep 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes sir, you are correct

I saw him up close in Fla, and the guy looked lost at the plate. I really hope he turns it around soon.

McLouth is actually hitting the ball a little. He doesn’t look great, but he’s not striking out on 0-2 counts as much. As long as our centerfielder(s) can hit .250 and drive balls to the outfield (i.e. no GIDP), that will be a win.

by ryantex on Sep 9, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a very well thought out plan

By Wren and co. on this one. They wanted a power hitter SOOO BAD that they were willing to completely sacrifice OBP and contact rate to get a former pitcher with DECENT pop.

by DreamWithinADream on Sep 9, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this a trade for more depth not for a power hitter

by Braves24 on Sep 9, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

when we play with Ankiel, we are playing w/2 pitchers in the bottom of the lineup

2 auto-outs, that means we have 19 outs (27-6) to win the game. a huge disasvantage

by joshant on Sep 9, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice math... 27-6=21

And don’t forget pinch hitters!

by CalBravesFan on Sep 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

what happen if the pinch hitter is Mclouth?

the pitcher at least has 2 PA, if he doesn´t sucks and we are getting no hit.

that means at least 5 auto-outs

by joshant on Sep 9, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should go back to pitching. Maybe every couple of years just be a pitcher till he is lost then go back to batting till he is lost then go back to picthing. That could be an interesting cycle of chaos.

by Sparhawk on Sep 9, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brave have to win. I have a friend who is a cardinal, and I will never live it down if they lose a second series to the Cards. I’m not worried though—I expect at least three out of the four.

Poets are like baseball pitchers. Both have their moments. The intervals are the tough things. ~Robert Frost

by Joseph_C on Sep 9, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted Wainwright

You can pitch around Albert “dont call him the machine” Pujols, but Wainwright is going to go probably 7 strong innings, that’s unavoidable. Our pitchers have GOT to keep the ball down in the zone and have GOT to keep it out of the middle of the plate. We do this and we have a great shot at a series victory, assuming we dont make any more bonehead errors in the field… or on the basepath,

by murph35 on Sep 9, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Get out of my head!

But seriously, I thought the exact same thing when I voted for AW.

Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Sep 9, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i selected pujols…the guy is the best player in baseball…
anyways, i am going to the game friday…the braves are undefeated thus far with me attending, so i have high hopes…haha

by forgotten_glory on Sep 9, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

lucky

in my 5 games this year the Braves are 0-5 and have scored 3 runs total..

Jason Heyward...great guy

by KINGSLYTUT on Sep 9, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta recommend television, then. :P

[Mets] GM Omar Minaya confirmed to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News that the Mets aren't going to fire any coaches today. July 26, 2010.
"What was more odd than that pitch being low is that Jeff Francoeur didn't swing at it." -- Jim Powell, Aug. 4, 2010.

by carpengui on Sep 9, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

damn…
when i go, the braves are 3-0 and have scored 22 runs…although most of those runs were the first game…

April 5: 16-5 against Cubs (magical opener)
July 15: 2-1 against Brewers
September 1: 4-1 against Mets

i have seen Lowe, JJ, and Hanson all win…Friday it will be my turn to watch Minor win…

by forgotten_glory on Sep 9, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wainwright since his last win (Cincy - 8/12)

All of these were losses — though none are horrible outings.
Brewers – 7IP, 7H, 3R, 3ER, 1BB, 7K, 106 pitches
Pirates — 7IP, 7H, 4R, 4ER, 4BB, 6K, 117 pitches
Nationals 5IP, 6H, 4R, 4ER, 3BB, 7K, 104 pitches
Cincinnati 5IP, 7H, 5R, 2ER, 1BB, 6K, 83 pitches

Here’s hoping our advance scouts are seeing a trend to whatever he’s been doing lately: teams are exploiting Wainwright more lately. A confident Braves team at home ought to be able to get to him at least as well. JJ’s last outing vs. the Marlins also gives reason for optimism.

[Mets] GM Omar Minaya confirmed to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News that the Mets aren't going to fire any coaches today. July 26, 2010.
"What was more odd than that pitch being low is that Jeff Francoeur didn't swing at it." -- Jim Powell, Aug. 4, 2010.

by carpengui on Sep 9, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

LOLineup

Imhotep – 2B
Jesus – RF
Nitram Odarp – 3B
Heap – C
I ♥ fastballs – 1B
Vin Diesel – LF
Sea Bass – SS
MVP – CF
Jahair Jurgens – P

For Bobby.

by Scott Coleman on Sep 9, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Imhotep is the bad guy from The Mummy, and he looks just like Omar.

Heyward is Jesus…just because.

Vin Diesel because he had a bad haircut and Huddy said he had a Vin Diesel thing going on. He’s also been called Tats, because of the huge one he has on his back.

For Bobby.

by Scott Coleman on Sep 9, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Ben is this a joke

“Who scares you more” That is really your poll? That is like a 2nd grader question, pathetic!!!

by themaster on Sep 9, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

my prayers have been answered!

"I am here to be real and state the things you are all to scared to say because you don’t want to get your feelings hurt or you don’t want to hurt these bloggers feelings. I mean did you read this garbage preview? I mean seriously, it was a pile of crap." - Mastermike

by bpk228480 on Sep 9, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

I needed a new one anyways.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 9, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least you have a sense of humor

And aren’t as power hungry as the other mods.

by themaster on Sep 9, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell ya, best quote ever!

Very wise man you quoted there bud…

by themaster on Sep 9, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Aroldis Chapman vs CarGo

Bases full of Rox in Denver w/ 1 out. Slider fouled off, 101 MPH fastball fouled off, then GIDP off another slider. He was pretty damn tardy on the fastball. That was entertaining to watch =)

"C'mon Chip!"

by DuPu on Sep 9, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

as an aside, this may be the first -WPA moment in CarGo’s 2010 season. I’m only somewhat serious.

"C'mon Chip!"

by DuPu on Sep 9, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cargo 0-4

Good news for Infante…

by themaster on Sep 9, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling LaRussa will be smart and swap Lohse for Garcia in this series.

by drumzalicious on Sep 9, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And pitch his rookie pitcher on 3 days rest? I doubt it.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 9, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid coors field

reds blown a 5 runs lead at coors field and lost the game

by joshant on Sep 9, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

helps us in the race for best record though.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 9, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m all for that, as long as it doesn’t somehow end up with us playing the Rockies in the NLDS.

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Sep 9, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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