CF in 2011???
by cjones2010 on Sep 5, 2010 12:42 PM EDT
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Who is going to play center next year for the Braves?
Some of the options in house are Melky Cabrera ,Nate McLouth, or Jordan Schafer.They could also sign someone like a Co-Co Crisp or trade for someone speedy.Either way i think we need a speed guy out there,who can also hit leadoff with productivity and add some pop.Give me your ideas on who should play center next year for the Braves.
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Haithcock
or BigJoe.
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Schafer
probably won’t be close to the majors till next September at the earliest.
They will probably go with McLouth if they can’t find someone to take his contract this offseason.
If Schafer can actually get healthy...
who knows. But I’d almost guarantee he isn’t there on opening day.
Other than a bad deal for bad deal swap, I don’t see how we can realistically expect to move McLouth, KK, or Lowe this off season. But hopefully Nate can use today to get back some confidence and regain what he was just last year, let alone before that. Or perhaps the eye surgery he had last off season is giving him problems and they can clean it up this winter (ala McCann).
You're dead wrong
I want a slow guy that is a prototypical 7th hitter.
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
Like who?
Besides Marlon Byrd who is a slow centerfielder who hits 7th?…..i think if chipper comes back u hit him 3rd and move prado or heyward to 6th or 7th
by cjones2010 on Sep 5, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
got one
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 5, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would we move...
…one of our best hitters (Heyward or Prado) to 6th or 7th? That doesn’t make any sense to me. For once we have it right more or less, with our best hitters generally hitting 1-4 where they get more AB’s.
Melky will certainly be non-tendered after the season. He’s making 3.1 mill this year and will certainly make more than that in arbitration. The rate for slow, tubby crappy hitting out outfielders has gone down in recent years. He’ll be lucky to make 1 mill next season.
Schafer is completely lost and mostly injured in the minors. He’s not an option for opening day.
McLouth is the only viable option out of those 3.
actually
Colby Rasmus wants out of St. Louis according to MLBTR, so I would hope we trade for him. I think he’s a solid young player. What do yall think?
I'm predicting a breakout for him next year
I think he would be a perfect fit, especially now that he wants out of St. Louis.
Take away TLR and the weird negative vibe in that clubhouse
he could really do well. He does seem to have minor injuries a lot.
He's from Georgia
Is a power hitting CF and I love him…he is the perfect CF, and I’d give up a fair price for him
Jason Heyward...great guy
Pujols:
"If he doesn’t want to be here next year, we need to figure out a way to get him out of here and find somebody that wants to be here and play," said the nine-time All-Star. "That’s a reality.
"That’ll show you right there a young player that doesn’t respect what he’s got," Pujols added. "He needs to find out the talent and ability that he has and pretty much keep his mouth shut and play the game. Let the organization make those decisions, not himself."
Following the infamous "astroglide" comment and the challenge for use of word:
no way the Astros glide into the playoffs.
by BrockSamson on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT
Rasmus wants to play
That’s a big part of the problem. His Majesty, King Albert opens his mouth that lesser players should keep their mouth shut. Meanwhile LaRussa just came out on the field and patted his bottom again.
I believe Rasmus’ request was made privately and its the Cardinals that leaked the information, so he was keeping his mouth shut.
Colby Rasmus is too expensive to get in a trade.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Sep 16, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
MLB.COM
Also reporting the Rasmus trade request rumors coming from the St.L Post-Dispatch. Seems to be a great fit for the Braves. The Cardinals all of a suddent seem to have alot of needs, so I’m sure FW could make something work.
TORII HUNTER
if Chip doesn’t come back, and we can deal Nate and KK we’ll have plently of room to pay Hunter for his 2 remaining years. Vizcaino/Delgado, Schafer/CoJo, and Melky for Hunter.
Following the infamous "astroglide" comment and the challenge for use of word:
no way the Astros glide into the playoffs.
by BrockSamson on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT
C – Brian McCann $6,667,000
1B – Freddie Freeman $400,000
2B – Omar Infante $2,250,000
3B – Martin Prado
SS – Alex Gonzalez $2,750,000
LF – Matt Diaz $2,750,000
CF – Torii Hunter $18,500,000
RF – Jason Heyward $400,000
C – David Ross $1,625,000
1B/LF – Eric Hinske $1,000,000
IF – Brooks Conrad $400,000
IF – Wes Timmons $400,000
OF – Matt Young $400,000
RH – Tim Hudson $9,000,000
RH – Jair Jurrjens
RH – Tommy Hanson $435,000
RH – Derek Lowe $15,000,000
LH – Mike Minor $400,000
C – Jonny Venters $450,000
SU – Takashi Saito $3,200,000
RH – Peter Moylan $1,150,000
LH – Eric O’Flaherty $1,000,000*
RH – Craig Kimbrel $400,000
Marintez, Dunn, Marek $400,000
FA Relief Pitcher $1,000,000
Following the infamous "astroglide" comment and the challenge for use of word:
no way the Astros glide into the playoffs.
by BrockSamson on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT
Torii Hunter
Overrated and aging. I’ll pass, especially if it means getting rid of one of two of the best pitching prospects in the game.
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by FineHamAbounds on Sep 5, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
isnt a CF either anymore…he’s just not that good
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
.291/.368/.481
19 HRs, 74 RBIs. And he is still a CF, but moved to RF to help the team out with the new guy coming in,
I dont know where youre getting “overrated” or “not that good” from. A big contract, yes, but he’s still a good ball player and would be the best CF we’ve had in years.
First off I don’t like Torii Hunter, so i probably underrate him a bit, its more of a vendetta because i don’t think he is that good of a CF (I think he is above average, but his reputation has him as a great defensive CF and that he is not).
Defensively this year he has been below average his UZR supports this as does his DRS (per fangraphs). also there is an overwhelming declining trend in his numbers since 2003. Also, his negative numbers go back three years so there is reason to believe its not just a statistical anomaly. He will continue a downward trend and will be worth less and less every year. he belongs in a corner right now and will probably stay there the rest of his career.
Offensively he would be a huge upgrade, but he costs so much money and the difference in prospects for him and Rasmus, probably won’t be that significant. it makes almost no sense to get him.
To elaborate on why he is overrated (in my opinion). is because he has the sportscenter effect going for him. He makes a ton of great catches because he has supreme athleticism. However, I’ve always thought his jumps were a tad late and he did a poor job getting a good read. Also, his arm is either average or below average in CF for his career. now I still think he is a good defensive player, and is a good offensive player, but he isnt and never was worth the contract he got. If you fail to perform to the level of your contract you are overrated (in my opinion).
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
shit fail again
I have also wanted to try this, but didn’t want to because I knew this would happen. Can someone explain to me how to use blockquote and the other stuff?
what i do is highlight whatever i want to show up in the text box and then press the quote button…Also, use the preview button before posting and you can see if it is gonna look the way you want it to. those two tips should help.
I dont think it makes it invalid, i just think my views color the facts in a certain light. It is valuable for someone reading my thougths to haev that information so they know where i am coming from. And finally, its not that i dont like him as a person, because well i don’t know him. I just don’t like him that much as a player. thought i should clarify that.
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Dwight Schrute
Does it? By that same theory then liking a player makes any argument in his favor invalid.
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Most of the time when I say “invalid” I’m thinking of the noun not the adjective.
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by VivaLosBravos on Sep 6, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
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-Mike Scioscia
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 7, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus could be a good move
He doesn’t have much plate discipline but other than that he would be a big upgrade but will be really expensive in prospects because he is young and cheap.
but
he wants out…
if he is upsetting the FO they may hastily send him out…i think rasmus is really good, and i would love to have him…we would have to find a taker for nate tho
by forgotten_glory on Sep 5, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
he strikes out a lot but his walk rate is pretty good… so I’m not sure if the plate discipline thing is accurate…this year he has struck out more and walked more, but for his career and in the minors he has had a very good walk rate and a slightly high K rate.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
give'm melky+martinez+dunn for rasmus
they may take the bait on this one. Melky and an above average minor leaguer (no Teheran) for rasmus, maybe give’m Christhian Martinez. I can see it now.
1. Colby Rasmus CF
2. Jason Heyward RF
3. Chipper Jones 3B/Martin Prado 3B
4. Brian McCann C
5. Omar Infante 3B/Martin Prado 3B
6. Freddie Freeman 1B
7. Matt Diaz LF
8. Unknown SS
David Ross C
Eric Hinske LF/1B
Omar Infante IF-OF/Martin Prado IF
Nate McLouth CF (yeah they’re dumb enough to give him a second chance)
Brooks Conrad IF
Tim Hudson
Tommy Hanson
Jair Jurrjens
Tom Gorzelanny
Mike Minor
Jonny Venters CL
Hideki Okajima SU
Craig Kimbrel SU
Peter Moylan MRP
Eric O’Flaherty MRP
Scott Proctor MRP
Kenshin Kawakami LRP
You give me a mets fan, and after chipper and heyward take him out in the back alley he'll want to cheer for the Braves.
Where the hell did Okajima come from???
1. No one wants Melky…no one wants Melky, Dunn, and Martinez for a very good yonug player especially!
2. Why is Rasmus leading off? He K’s a lot and is a power hitter
3. Where did Lowe go? The odds of trading Lowe are pretty bad
4. Where did Gorzelanny come from?
Sorry kid but it’s more complicated than what MLB the Show says…
Jason Heyward...great guy
Dunn
Plenty of teams I’m sure will want a 25 year old LHP pitcher that can run his fastball up to 96 MPH. Otherwise I agree with you. If we want to get Rasmus, it will probably take two high quality prospects like Brandon Beachy and Mycal Jones.
the two guys you listed are not high quality prospects…they are mid levels prospects (neither is in our top ten by most people’s consideration).
Given what the Cardinals like, we should give them Melky, Diory and Vladimir Nunez….they like players that suck and not ones that are really good…(hence them not wanting Rasmus and having a ton of crap on their roster)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
What the hell are you thinking?
Why would we want Tom Gorzelanny in our starting rotation when we have better options in our system.Where does Hideki Okajima come from? No way we get gim if anything a right handed reliever.Also plug Gonzalez in at short next year already.I still say we need someone with more power than Diaz in left
Who’s “Unknown”? Does he walk often? What’s his average?
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by MBL1 on Sep 5, 2010 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First off you’re crazy.
Second. you don’t need to post the entire 25 man roster for me. I know who is on the braves.
Third, this is clearly rosterbation and should be in that realm.
Fourth, despite my slightly sarcastic remakr below it will take more than that to get Rasmus…people are overrating the fact that he wants out of STL. just bc he wants out doesnt mean the Front Office is going to give him up for next to nothing. (this is more of a statement in general than directed at you)
and KK is jsut about as good as Gorzelanny. Gorzellany screams overperfomance this year. His K% jumped and his BB% stayed wihtin his career norm of 44 BB/9. So if he doesnt continue to strike guys out he will continue to not be very good. Also, he has drastically lowered his HR/FB which doesnt seem sustainable. He is having a pretty good year, but trading for him would undoutedly result in a loss, especially when as mentioned we have other options. You must remember to look at this in a macro scale. Sure I could be wrong, there’s even a good chance of it, and Gorzellany might be good enough to post a low 4 ERA and be a good #3 starter, but he costs money and prospects. Those are limited resources. we have a fair amount of pitching depth, we don’t need to deplete our resources (prospects and cash) in order to supplement an already strong portion of our roster. We need to use our resources to make large increase in production elsewhere (specifically CF and possibly 3B, if Chipper cant come back for some reason).
You didn’t seem to learn very well from your fanpost where you got lambasted for posting things that don’t make sense…you need to go back and find the constructive critique there (i think there is some somewhere)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
I just wonder, and put in the fan shot...
that with Pujols wanting him gone, can we snag him without having to give up JJ or Hanson. I’d assume that’d be their first request based on what they have, and rightfully so considering his skills, production, age, and service time. Would Diory Hernandez, Pastornicky, or Mycal Jones be an acceptable piece in a package? Franklin is getting old, how much value would they place on a potential closer in Kimbrel in case Motte can’t cut it? Would they be interested in KK, McLouth, or Lowe (provided we cover a large amount of the salary of course)? We’ve got EOF as an expendable, young, cost controlled lefty with experience in high pressure spots as more than just a simple LOOGY, and that’s gotta be good sweetner in any possible deal (with Hyde, Dunn, and several other possible bullpen lefties making his loss easily covered). Like you say above, they seem to have a penchant for junk under LaRussa, if he’s still around maybe he likes Melky or Diaz as part of a package.
As good as Beachy seems to be, he’s still part of a cramped pack of pitchers and selling high on him for Rasmus (if he can be the centerpiece in a package for the young OF) might be great value.
as quite often happens…i pretty much agree with everything you rambled…
I think we can get him without giving up JJ or hanson. but i think it will be a good package of players…we can obviously give up teheran and get just about anyone right now, but we won’t do that (and shouldn’t). like you point out we have a ton of options…
I think one of the more viable ones would be a package of prospects along with KK. they need more pitching after their big two (maybe a big three with Garcia).
based on my rough assessment of the Cardinals system (which is far from stacked). they need MI prospects and they need CI prospects, we have some of the former and none of the latter. they are always looking for pieces for their pen and need a 4-5 starter…so these are areas I feel like we match up well with.
The big problem is basically every team is baseball would like to add Rasmus. and there could be some serious competition if he is on the market.
What really scares me is he gets traded for some shit package, and we are sitting there not making a comparable offer. and I feel dissapointed and cry a little.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
egg zachary
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although
this encouraged me to look.
Since joining San Diego, Ludwick is .218/.296/.336 (.632 ops). Compared to Ankiel since we got him, .216/.310/.318 (.628 ops).
prado 5th?
Following the infamous "astroglide" comment and the challenge for use of word:
no way the Astros glide into the playoffs.
by BrockSamson on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT
from descriptions (overly pull happy)...
he almost sounds like a lefty Andruw at the plate (no one is Andruw in the field).
i thnk the pull happy thing is overblown…he wasnt like that last year and was driving to all fields…I don’t know if the pulling is just this year or what… but if he can stop that nonsense he is very good.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Anyone know the places to look that sort of data up?...
sounds like a research project for pacgnosis!
I consider Hollday a bad contract...
just because I don’t think he’ll be worth it over the last couple years of the deal. But other than that, just Kyle Lohse.
Maybe Rasmus is “the player to be named later” in the Wainwright deal that we’ve been waiting for all these years. We can finally call that trade even.
Am I the only one
that thinks Rasmus is a bit overrated on this board?
Before you slam me, please note “a bit” in the question above.
its more of a fascination of a CF who is actually useful
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Dwight Schrute
Don't get me wrong
He’d be a huge upgrade over anyone we have now. I’m just surprised at some of the packages people would be willing to offer for him based on his career numbers, which admittedly are not a huge sample size.
he hasnt even cracked his upside yet…if he can control his Ks a bit and keep that solid walk rate…he is a 3-4 win player…which is really good.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Again
big upgrade, but there are people talking about JJ + prospects for him. JJ has already been a 3.8 and 3.9 win guy.
As good as Rasmus has been, his splits against lefties aren’t great, and his BABIP is way higher than what he did last year in the bigs, or the two years before in AAA and AA. He’s also got a – field ranking from fangraphs this year. I’m just wary of trading proven young pitching for “if” guys.
I don’t consider him an “if” guy. We have very good reason to beleive he is at least a 2.5 WAR player going forward. And JJ is presumbly a 3-4 WAR guy. JJ enters arbitration in 2011, Rasmus doesnt until 2012. So there’s a good size difference in pay levels, and for the most part will minimize the risk that Rasmus doesnt imporve on his 2.5 WAR. i certainly wouldnt offer more than JJ for him, but at the same time I wouldn’t be overly hesitant to offer JJ either.
And a couple of things ont he last paragraph. His BABiP is higher and will regress so there is some danger there, but its also not unreasonably high. He will probably sit around 300-310 for his career (maybe someone could calculate his xBABiP). so its not like we are looking at a huge regression. And on his defense, we should still be operating on his scouting reports because the sample isnt particularly large enough to make any real decisions on how good or bad it is. for his career he is a plus defender in CF (even with a poorer year this year) and from what I have seen, he is supposed to be a good defender based on reports.
Again. a Rasmus for JJ has potential for us to be a loss for us. And there isnt likely an upside of us winning the deal by a lot, but it represents a huge upgrade on this team. We have no reasonable alternative in CF and we have other pitchers who can contribute similar numbers as JJ (It is reasonable that if Minor replaces JJ’s spot he cna post s 3 WAR season).
While JJ for Rasmus is a loss for us (possibly), on the Macro level, replacing our current CFs with Rasmus and replacing JJ with another pitcher represents a fairly large win for us. And thats what makes the deal so appetizing. Also, the fact that there are no reasonable candidates outside of Rasmus on the marketthis offseason.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
i would certainly wait a bit on it, becuase it doesnt help us at all right now, becuase he wouldnt be eligible for the playoffs, then I would like to see how the offseason plays out before we make such a big move.
In my head though, I feel like we have a good rotation with Hanson, Minor, Hudson, and then two of KK, Lowe, and Beachy. That isnt that big of a difference than the same rotation except add JJ and subtract one of KK, Lowe and Beachy. ANd Rasmus is a drastic upgrade over anything we haev for CF. I would love to see if we could dump McLouth (maybe we could even send him to the Cards), I would be much happier.
In summation, I would wait a bit (maybe until Dec so we know a bit more) before making such a deal, but I would love to haev Rasmus.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
What Cardinal fans are wanting for him is crazy.
I proposed Jurrjens for Rasmus and a low level minor leaguer or
Minor and a low level prospect for Rasmus and got laughed at.
They don’t seem to realize that he’s only cheap 1 more year and K’s lot.
They also don’t get that that team has only got a couple more years of contending. Their minor leagues are awful, Carpenter is 35, Wainwright has 1 more cheap year then gets expensive and Pujols is a FA after next year.
And unless they are willing to start spending $120-150+ per...
they’ll really need to load up on cheap, young talent to compliment what could be $60-75m tied up in a small handful of players, namely Pujols, then Wainwright, Holliday, and Molina (who already makes over $5m and will have enough service time to hit the open market after next year)
I’ll say this about Rasmus, from what I saw down in ST he doesn’t fit in with the Cardinals. After the game he spent well over a half hour signing autographs making sure that every single person that wanted one got one. He was personable and friendly and generally just a great guy. The rest of the Cardinals went out of their way to pretend that the fans don’t exist (which just makes it more sad for the Cardinals fans that they still sat there worshiping the players).
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and who preachers fan friendlyness?
Following the infamous "astroglide" comment and the challenge for use of word:
no way the Astros glide into the playoffs.
by BrockSamson on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT
If Rasmus is reallly available we would have to give up true talent.
Since he is already in the bigs im pretty sure they would want someone thats already proven themselves in the bigs as well so we’d probably be looking at sending them Jurrjens because I doubt the FO would trade Minor at this point.
Maybe Jurrjens, Marek, and Brandon Hicks/Mycal Jones. All of this talk of him having less trade value because he K’s alot is ridiculous. They guy is on pace to K about 140 times this year, which is kind of average compared to guys like Adam Dunn and Reynolds who K 200+ times in a season.
2B Prado
RF Heyward
3B Chip
LF Elusive RH Bat
C McCann
CF Rasmus
SS Gonzalez
1B Freeman
i love rasmus
but if we were able to get ahold of him, i would be worried about how LH our lineup is…how does rasmus hit LH?
by forgotten_glory on Sep 6, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
well
i posted a projected lineup above and its pretty balanced if we get a RH bat to go in LF for next year. If not then we will have a few more LH batters than needed.
by drumzalicious on Sep 6, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
thats an entirely different discussion altogether..haha..but just in ur opinion, who r some realistic RH bats? what if while everyone was bidding out the ass for rasmus we stayed in the shadows and got shin-soo choo? what would ppl think bout that? sorry i don’t mean to start a huge tangent…just wondering
by forgotten_glory on Sep 6, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Shin Soo Choo is really really good, but i doubt he is available…and the worry with him is that he will be forced to serve in the Korean army at some point and have to leave baseball for 2 years (maybe even three I forget what the requirement for serving in the Korean army is)
i love him and he is a great player, but he would cost a lot, a lot more than Rasmus probably.
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I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered hearing he got out of that service requirement.
Anyone? Bueller?
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 7, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
He has not yet...
the Asian games are this winter, so if he’s part of a gold medal winning team, he’d be out of the service requirement. Choo has also implied in published reports that if he can’t get an exemption, he’d likely switch to American citizenship and simply not report for service, but that is speculation. He (or his agent) have made it clear this won’t be a problem, but then it does still linger.
It is possibly that if they win the gold medal they would not be subject to the service requirement. it is no guaranteed, or at least that is my understanding
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Here is something from February...
That seems to make it automatic, if they win gold. They exempted the semi finalist of the World Baseball Classic in 06, but not the team that I think made the finals in ’09, so they may have some leeway, but I recall reading somewhere if they won a gold at the Olympics, WBC, or Asian Games, that by law (or executive order, or whatever they call it) that team would be granted an automatic exemption.
Nyjer Morgan??????????
What about Nyjer Morgan in center he would be cheap,provide speed and stolen bases.Would the braves want him and his attitude is the question and if not try to get Roger Bernadina from the Nats
He’s one of the worst base stealers in baseball. He steals some, but all of his caught stealings basically erase them.
He’s also a total douchebag…
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Sep 6, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s about a month away from being a AAA player. If he hadn’t been playing for 2 of the worst organizations in baseball he never would have gotten a shot at regular playing time.
And the fact that he’s a douchebag is more important than any of that. He’s not a Braves type player and he’s not the kind of guy they’re going to go out and get.
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The Braves will probably go after Cody Ross in the offseason.
I like this guy personally.
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by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Sep 6, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
Cody Ross would be a great option. He is a career wRC+ 144 hitter against lefties, and Mclouth is a career wRC+ 116 hitter against righties. The defense wouldn’t be pretty, but in a premium position an above average offense is more than enough.
Melky should be non-tendered and Hinske and Ankiel should be let go.
If the Braves have the money, they should sign Ryan Ludwick to play LF. He is an above average glove and bat. The 2011 OF would be: Heyward in RF, Ludwick in LF, Mclouth and Ross platooning in CF and Diaz as a fifth OF.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Sep 16, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing is going to happen with a new CF until McLouth is gone. He makes $6.5M next year his last year under contract.
Best case scenario is we sign someone like Crisp on the cheap to a 1 year deal and either platoon McLouth and Crisp in CF or move McLouth to LF and hope that he starts hitting next year. Diaz is almost certain to be non tendered because he doesn’t hit RH pitching and only plays the corner OF spots. Cabrera will most likely be back because of his switch hitting and he can play all OF spots.
It would be nice if McLouth started next year on a tear at the plate and we were able to unload him on someone. If we signed Crisp I would not mind having him in CF all year and using Cabrera/Hinske/Infante in LF.
I think you can write Rasmus off though. Management is not going to pay McLouth $6.5M to be a bench player next season. I know they’re paying him $4.5M this year to not play much but they will give him another chance next year. Plus the Cardinals are going to want way to much for Rasmus. Some of they’re top quality bloggers are saying a top quality SP plus 2 mid level prospects.
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He ain’t moving
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Sep 16, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
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