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Desparate Times and Measures - Updated


The Braves BrainTrust of Wren and Cox need to make some additional moves and make them now.

Derek Lowe has a bone chip lodged in his elbow, has already missed missed a start and, very simply, cannot be relied upon at this time.  Yes, he is a veteran and has a big contract, but, No!, he should not be allowed to make the crucial decision that he will "pitch through it" and thereby jeopardize our Championship Season.

If Lowey had been dealing ace-like prior to this setback, it might be different.  However, he has regularly been performing at a substandard level, with a dismal 2-5 record, 4.77 ERA and 66 hits allowed in 54.2 inninings over his last ten starts, which is far from the ace-like dealing we are paying for and absolutely need to have. 

Looking back a little further, MLB beat writer Mark Bowman has noted:

In the 15 starts Lowe had made before his right arm was essentially "worthless" (stole that description from Lowe),  he was 3-8 with a 4.25 ERA.  Opponents hit .271 and compiled a .336 on-base percentage during this span.

 Enough!  Disable Derek Lowe!

Backdating it to his 3 inning debacle on 8/29 would mean he will miss, at the least, his next two starts. So, who starts those games? 

Kenshin Kawakami?  No!  He has clearly lost his mojo (or the Japanese equivalent) for whatever reason and, more importantly, seems to have entirely lost Bobby Cox's confidence.  For Bobby to say the following about one of his players is almost unprecedented and - to me - a very clear sign:

“He just couldn’t get in a groove, to locate his pitches. He just never got in a rhythm tonight.”

“That’s the worst I’ve ever seen him.”

Frankly, given the way KK was allowed to languish in a dark and forgotten corner of the bullpen prior to being sent down to AAA, I would not at all be surprised to never see him pitch another inning in a Braves uniform. 

But irrespective of all that, the simple fact is KK can not be relied upon at this critical juncture of our season any more so than the sore-armed and hopefully soon to be DL'ed DL. He's now 1-10 with a 5.11 ERA for the season.  Just horrid. 

Enough!  No more starts for KK!

So, who is ready to step into the void?

The bold and obvious choice is:  Brandon Beachy.  Now!

To quote our superb minor league guru, cbwilk:

Brandon Beachy continues to surprise everyone, tossing 6 scoreless tonight while walking none and striking out 8. When he was dominating out of the bullpen for Mississippi it was easy to say he was getting lucky, when he was dominating as a starter for Mississippi it was easy to say it was a fluke, but after a full season of dominance at the 2 highest levels of the Minor Leagues, a 1.73 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, 5.3 K/BB, 11.2 K/9, and 2.1 BB/9, it's impossible not to consider Beachy a prospect, and very good one at that.

Now, I am fully cognizant of the fact that running out a raw rookie in the pressure of a pennant race is not the way the Braves organization ordinarily likes to operate. But these are, most assuredly, not ordinary times.

We have 27 games left on the schedule.  If we can hold off the Phils, we will have a very good shot at home field advantage throughout the playoffs and a World Series berth. The urgency to Win Now! has never been greater. 

 Literally, every game is crucial.

Update (9/5, 1:35 PM):

Bowman: Lowe says he's ready to pitch. 

This is no good. 

I mean, he admits: "It's not like [the discomfort] has disappeared." And just a few days ago, he couldn't even play catch and for weeks, he's been brushing his teeth left-handed. 

So, sure it is good that it feels somewhat better now, but this is because the nerve irritation and the swelling have diminished due to a cortisone shot and the small detail that he has not been throwing a baseball at game velocity.

The fact of the matter seems to be that a MRI has shown that the bone chip is lodged in a spot where it has caused and will presumably continue to cause significant nerve irritation; there's no reason to think the pathologic condition has resolved; and Lowe's performance has very obviously been suffering because of it. Logically, this will likely continue and Lowe's performance will continue to hurt the team if he is allowed to go back out there. 

The fact that he's a warrior and willing to try to pitch through the pain is clear. 

Equally clear is the team needs to just say No!

This FanPost does not express the views or opinions of Talking Chop.

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by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I like it. Derrek Lee can sit too as far as I’m concerned.

I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away

by TradeAndruw on Sep 4, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

My rule is that virtually all Shakespear/Braves related comments should be greened.

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah! Wouldn’t hurt to give the kid a start or two. Certainly wouldn’t be worse than KK. If not Beachy then who else would start?

by chopc on Sep 4, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

MIne as well – the Phillies are playing too well now. I keep harping on it, but their 6-1 west coast road trip probably won them the division. All of their pieces are back and starting to click. I love this Braves team, but quite realistically do not think the Braves are going to hold off the Phillies. Braves mine as well bring an arm that jolts the squad and gives them someone to get behind. KK is a waste – you know what you’re getting with him so give Beachy a shot, the result CANT possibly be that much worse.

by CharlotteChop on Sep 4, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Mine as well?

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Sep 4, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

There ya go!

:)

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Sep 4, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

funny funny – at least I didn’t say “might could”, my wife hammers me for that one!

by CharlotteChop on Sep 4, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha. Yeah. I take that one a bit farther and say “might could’ve.”

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Sep 4, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

mightve coulda?

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Sep 5, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we can hold off the Phillies, but you’re right CharlotteChop…it’s gonna be a helluva a task to accomplish. And we need every win, every great pitching performance we can squeeze out of this rotation. But as Jareth so eloquently opined below, a four-man rotation might be the way we need to go from here on out.

It worked well for us in 1991, with Smoltz, Glavine, Avery, and Leibrandt. I’d be way comfortable with a rotation of Hudson, Jurrjens, Hanson, and Minor from here on out.

What is both surprising and delightful is that spectators are allowed, and even expected, to join in the vocal part of the game.... There is no reason why the field should not try to put the batsman off his stroke at the critical moment by neatly timed disparagements of his wife's fidelity and his mother's respectability. ~George Bernard Shaw

by Chopaholic on Sep 5, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

How bout Diamond?

He had been pretty outstanding lately. They only need a fifth starter one time for the rest of the season if Bobby lets the guys go on regular rest. Maybe they’ll just let Martinez throw 4 innings or so?

by KC Ryan on Sep 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Martinez could be a legit option for a 4 inning start. Looks like although he had only 2 starts all season – both for Gwinnett on July 17th and 22nd – he did very well: 11.2 innings, 7 hits, 1 ER, 1 BB, 9 K.

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much agree, but I will say I think it’s funny how when the team won 4 games in a row there wasn’t a single new fanpost about how to fix the team, but after we lose 2 this pops up, and probably a few more. Still, I agree, Beachy or Scott Diamond or Todd Redmond would all be better options that Lowe or KK.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
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by cbwilk on Sep 4, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

well, number one, the word on Lowe’s arm problems just came down last night. and, two, if Wren had me on speed dial, I would make helpful suggestions more regularly.

oh, and how ’bout me proclaiming you a guru!?

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, that’s a lot of pressure…

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
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by cbwilk on Sep 4, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they don't give beachy a shot which I prefer

How about christhian Martinez? He has pitched pretty good for us and had a couple of good starts in aaa ,Could he be any worse than kk?

by traderchris on Sep 4, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If we are going to bring up Beachy

is Teheran off limits? We just need one start right? Though, we were planning on giving Minor some extra days rest

by willlinn on Sep 4, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, he is. I’d see Scott Diamond as the next best choice.

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way we bring up Teheran.

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Sep 4, 2010 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rec it up...

we need to replace mastermike, and this is much better written and though out.

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 4, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

THIS i rarely rec anything, but for that end i will rec

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Sep 5, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bad thing about Lowe's elbow problem is

now our chances of getting someone to take him and his salary off our books in the off-season goes from bad to not happening:(

Go Braves! Go Dawgs! Go Falcons!

by HEYJUDE on Sep 4, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

i know...

i was thinking about that as soon as he said it was hurting..it sux

by forgotten_glory on Sep 4, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

this does suck. If Lowe doesn’t get healthy, then we can forget about a big offseason signing

by Braves24 on Sep 4, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

always look on the bright side of life!

Maybe we can just get some insurance money for him….?

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Sep 4, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say.....

Give Mr Prado the ball and let him give it a try. He has done just about everything else this year! JK. I agree FanDave, a spot start would not hurt.I would also continue to give KK a regular start in the right matchup.

by mikie baseball on Sep 4, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

5: 51 PM gondeee:RT mlbbowman:

Lowe plans to rest his arm tomorrow. If he can’t go Wed. vs Pirates, Braves may turn to Brandon Beachy.

Go Braves! Go Dawgs! Go Falcons!

by HEYJUDE on Sep 4, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey! another great minds thinking alike, power of collective karma or some entirely other thing again.

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be sweet.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Sep 4, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bowman’s article has this quote:

“I’ve had a bone chip in my elbow for I’m going to say 10 years, and this is the first time that it’s become painful,” Lowe said. “It just normally floats around. It’s sitting exactly in a hole. You can see it plain as day. It’s never been there before. It normally just cruises around in spots.”

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds absolutely horrifying.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Sep 5, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

that sounds a bit crazy. He should get that removed now. Its not like he was pitching like an ace before he was hurt. Our rotation wont really miss him IMO if we promote Beachy

by drumzalicious on Sep 5, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to reiterate that D Lee sucks. I don’t care if he hits a grand slam after I write this, he can’t hit shit right now.

I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away

by TradeAndruw on Sep 4, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Tonight

He had a screaming line drive double into the corner. And also made a gold glove scoop of a short hop throw to complete a critical double play.
But other than that he was a complete waste of good oxygen.

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're the man, fandave.

"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."

"Oh man am I a woman?!"

by Scott Coleman on Sep 4, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

did you see my reply to your comment about feeling a Heyward homerun, after he then nearly decapitated Stanton with that rocket shot? kid is unbelievable!

by fandave on Sep 4, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOUR (4)-man rotation.

fuck it.

Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career

by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 5, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I like this idea.

It worked in 1991, right?

What is both surprising and delightful is that spectators are allowed, and even expected, to join in the vocal part of the game.... There is no reason why the field should not try to put the batsman off his stroke at the critical moment by neatly timed disparagements of his wife's fidelity and his mother's respectability. ~George Bernard Shaw

by Chopaholic on Sep 5, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think our starters would handle a 4-man well.

Two are very inexperienced, one is kinda fragile at times, and the other has had Tommy John.

Not a good idea. Beachy probably isn’t in the Braves long term plans, so bring him up and see.

Dead money isn’t going to come back to life no matter what (You gotta write off that 30mil of Lowe/KK/McLouth next year)

by Broccoman on Sep 5, 2010 6:26 AM EDT reply actions  

BEACHY is in our long term plans!

It is obvious in that Wren said at the trade deadline that “Minor, Teheran, and Beachy are off limits!”

by Braves12 on Sep 5, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is obvious in that Wren said at the trade deadline that "Minor, Teheran, and Beachy are off limits!"

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Sep 5, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Beachy would be a great choice. He was going to go to the AFL for extra innings anyway. Either him or Scott Diamond should be promoted instead of waiting on Lowe. If we move Lowe to the 15day DL for this injury then we should be fine when we have to make our post season roster.

Also there is no way we can go with a 4 man rotation. Huddy just came back from TJ surgery and Minor is on an innings limit.

by drumzalicious on Sep 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

It looks like Beachy won't get the start

This offseason Lowe really needs to remove that bone chip in his elbow. Does anybody know how much time he might miss if he does that?

by deewill23 on Sep 5, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Worst signing ever

God damn, at least we’re going against the Pirates

"That's my teammate, man... That's my quarterback"

by TurnerTheBurner on Sep 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

think before you speak…..

there are much worse signings than getting a league average SP who only costs $6M.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Sep 6, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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