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Players Only Team Meeting


Reverse insomnia has me up and scanning the tubes very early most mornings for all the latest on our team, plus oddly enough I will often have a song stuck in my brain. 

Today's song: Reason to Believe.

Yeah, I know ... pretty weird.  That is, at least to me, in the sense of fateful or errie.

So, then I happen across Bowman's article from last night on the Players Only Team Meeting, chaired by David Ross and also featuring Chipper Jones, Eric Hinske and Billy Wagner as the primary speakers. 

Of course, all this got me thinking. 

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Bobby Cox, as I understand it, has never been big on meetings and rah-rah cheerleading of a group of adult professional baseball players who are well-paid to show up and do their jobs.  And thus team meetings are not very much a part of  the Braves clubhouse culture. 

But, when a team has truly world-class veteran leadership the likes of Rossy, Chipper, Hinsk and Wags who take the initiative and step up to the front and re-frame the final fourteen games of a long season, exactly what kind of impact might that actually have?

A few paragraphs with key quotes from the article:

"We don't panic," Ross said. "We're relaxed. We just wanted to make sure everybody was focused and ready to get back to doing what we were doing."

Wagner doesn't like team meetings for the simple fact that they only occur during rough stretches of a season. But he walked away from this with a sense that it could prove to be positive.

"Meetings allow everybody to know that we're all on the same page," Wagner said. "We all know what's going on. You just relax and do what you've got to do. We're all going to have good games and bad games. You can't go out there and worry about having one or the other. You just have to go out there and play hard."

So, here is the thing:  My feeling has been and remains that this is our year; that the 2010 Atlanta Braves are a Team Of Destiny; that somehow, someway they will be in the World Series and they may indeed win it all.

And when I say this type of thing, I am not kidding.  I mean it.  Just like on the Open Threads, when I make calls of impending homeruns - which I've done three times recently and am a perfect three of three, although last night on Nate's 9th inning bomb, I was off by one pitch (the two previous ones were to the exact pitch)... so, obviously, these feelings are not exactly infallible.

But my point is the intangible factor.  Call it luck, karma, an aura, the alignment of the universe, or what you will. It is out there.

I will stop all this blather now. 

However, I am sticking to my position that our team is still going to do it and will be in the World Series.

And the team meeting yesterday may just have been just the thing, the impetus, the organic or autonomic force. 

Anybody else feeling or maybe still looking for a reason to believe?

This FanPost does not express the views or opinions of Talking Chop.

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Like your optimism

Even though I don’t believe in “destiny” or all that other hooplah you mentioned.

But

Bobby Cox, as I understand it, has never been big on meetings and rah-rah cheerleading of a group of adult professional baseball players

Which is why he sits on the side of the dugout cheering on the players with nicknames he created for them?

by DreamWithinADream on Sep 19, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Bobby essentially never calls team meetings. He speaks to the team on Day 1 of spring training and that’s just about it.
Chatter from the dugout is obviously another subject.

by fandave on Sep 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chatter from the dugout is cheerleading though. You were right of the first one. He isn’t big on team meetings.

by DreamWithinADream on Sep 19, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree and believe you’re missing the point. What I was suggesting is that Bobby has famously and always been all about maintaining a mellow, non-pressurized environment. His upbeat, low intensity, low impact dugout chatter is entirely consistent with that. Moreover, Bobby’s management style allows veteran leadership to step to the forefront and do what was just done, which has far better odds of having an effective and positive impact than a manager making a rah-rah, kick some ass, win for the Gipper speech.

by fandave on Sep 19, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know we have these player meetings every once in a while when we are struggling. Every part of my brain knows that “Team of Destiny” can’t be true, but man, if ever there was a year, this was it.

by eaheckman10 on Sep 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m just trying to keep ya’ll posted on this stuff whenever it happens be come along:

NateBomb – NOW
by fandave on Sep 18, 2010 3:23 PM PDT
nice
by traphicg on Sep 18, 2010 3:24 PM PDT
Nicely done!!!!
by Cayla on Sep 18, 2010 3:24 PM PDT
Wish granted.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 18, 2010 3:24 PM PDT
YEAH!!!!
by fandave on Sep 18, 2010 3:24 PM PDT
MISSED IT BY 1 PITCH, I’m slipping.
by fandave on Sep 18, 2010 3:25 PM PDT
good time right now for the Kid to win us another game.
by fandave on Aug 18, 2010 6:53 PM PDT
CALLED IT
by fandave on Aug 18, 2010 6:53 PM PDT reply actions by fandave on Aug 18, 2010 7:48 PM PDT
Calling it:
BrooksBomb!
by fandave on Aug 13, 2010 6:32 PM PDT

oracle
by ByrneSupremacy on Aug 13, 2010 6:32 PM PDT
 
 DING DING DING
 by atl192485 on Aug 13, 2010 6:32 PM PDT

 HOLY SHIT!!!!!
 by KINGSLYTUT on Aug 13, 2010 6:32 PM PDT
  
 damn I’m good!
 by fandave on Aug 13, 2010 6:33 PM PDT

 well said
 by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 13, 2010 6:33 PM PDT
 
 Wwwooooooooooooooo
 by MBL1 on Aug 13, 2010 6:33 PM PDT via mobile

by fandave on Sep 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m with you 100% on this one

Carpe Diaz

by GoBravesNY on Sep 19, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

There is no doubt in my mind that there are “channels” that occasionally are tapped into, I hope you have a good connection. I’ve felt for a long time this was a “special” year. I am also a HUGE fan of the players only team meetings, though the years, the Braves have reacted very well following this type meeting.

Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball

by bighop on Sep 19, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Count me among those who don’t believe this crunchy hippy crap.;) But I agree, for different reasons of course, that the Braves will spend the end of the season in a champagne storm.

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." ~George Carlin

by FineHamAbounds on Sep 19, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not particularly arguing that so much, although I certainly have my own views and life experiences, and think anyone who disputes intangibles like confidence and cohesive, positive group dynamics being real factors bearing on both individual and team performance must never have actually played any sports.

by fandave on Sep 19, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cohesiveness, confidence, positive group dynamics, but not destiny.

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." ~George Carlin

by FineHamAbounds on Sep 21, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Destiny is at best a concept or perhaps only a mere rhetorical tool. Even if there was or is any such thing as destiny, whatever the supposed final end result would still necessarily have to actually be accomplished in the stark, cold light of reality and any number of slings and arrows along the way could knock it entirely off the tracks. Otherwise, for example, I would obviously be much more rich and famous than I am (i.e., not at all).

by fandave on Sep 21, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

well if you want to break into a philosophical debate, thats fine….what you haev stated is one opinion of destiny, there is the other opinion which our futures are preordained and there is nothing we can to do to control the outcome of our lives. thus if the Braves are truly a team of destiny then it will all happen in such a way that ends in us winning hte WS, every loss./win is a step in that direction and the players themselves have no bearing on the outcome.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Sep 21, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, but that reminds me too much of the philosophy course I took as a college freshman or sophmore about (it seems) 87 years ago.
I do agree, however, with Yogi Berra: Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical.

by fandave on Sep 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have reason to believe in our Braves also....

Nice FanPost, rec’d

*Just Chill* when things start to look a bit difficult-don't panic as you take away your ability to think straight. Go Braves! Go Dawgs! Go Falcons!

by HEYJUDE on Sep 19, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m really pumped for the Phillies series. Bring them on.

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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