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Braves Score 6 In 6th, Beat Cardinals

The Braves desperately needed a huge inning and they certainly got one in the sixth inning of today's game. Brooks Conrad got it all started and then the next five hitters all hit and scored. It was looking rather grim before the huge inning, with Chris Carpenter pitching well until the huge inning.

Carpenter ended up allowing seven runs over five innings, a lackluster performance for the annual Cy Young candidate. He allowed each run to score, with his bullpen throwing three scoreless innings.

Mike Minor did not pitch well either, but was victim of a lot of hits landing. He struck out four and walked one over five plus innings, but allowed seven hits and four earned runs. Peter Moylan, Takashi Saito, and Billy Wagner pitched scoreless innings, with Jonny Venters allowing one earned run and getting out of a jam in the seventh inning.

Brian McCann's sac fly ended up giving the Braves the lead. It was originally ruled a triple but then an error on right fielder Jon Jay. This was honestly one of the biggest innings the Braves had all season. Derrek Lee even came up with a hit, his second run scoring hit in as many games. Nate McLouth hit a homer and drove another pitch almost to the warning track. He is seeing the ball very well and should continue to get close to regular playing time in center, in my opinion.

Tomorrow, the Braves have Tommy Hanson on the hill against Jake Westbrook. Westbrook hasn't been completely terrible as a Cardinal and Hanson has struggled as of late, but this is still an obvious advantage for the Braves. With Hudson and Hanson going in the final two games the Braves have a great chance to win the final two games of the series.

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Wow, this went up fast....

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Sep 10, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

can i say it?

i won’t get banned, will i?

someone else say it….

by atl192485 on Sep 10, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 10, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

so they had they're 2 aces going in the first two games and we took 1 of 2.

now we got our 2 aces going in the final games. lets go ahead and take both of those

A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....

by ATLBRVS_19 on Sep 10, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

An excellent proposal. I second and rise to ask all my colleagues to without further ado and by unanimous voice vote pass this proposal by acclamation.

by fandave on Sep 11, 2010 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

the LOLMets didn’t help your cause.

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Sep 10, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Its okay, Big Pelf and Niese will pick us up!

Ha. Ha. Ha.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 11, 2010 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

twss

Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?

by TennKen on Sep 11, 2010 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's hope this is the start of a great homestand.

It just feels like such a relief to get this win.

by JimH on Sep 10, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

20 more in a row, please, but with less drama. :)

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 10, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

nice win the Braves put up tonight. Anytime you can go down and still have the drive to fight back to take the win is not encuraging to us Phillies fans that you guys are not going to go quietly into the night.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 10, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

whats with all the nice philly phans?

by SuperHeyward on Sep 10, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

They want those games at the end of the season to matter. Those series will be epic.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m a sports fan. The NL East is up for grabs, the best record in the NL is up for grabs, the diffrence between making the postseason and turning to football to ease the pain of missing the postseason is only going to be 2 games. You’re a Braves fan would you still be watching every game and scoreboard watching on MLB live if say ATL had a 20 game lead on the rest of the NL? no you wouldn’t be this is one of the best races i can remember and you need to enjoy it cause if you wait long enough you’ll be watching other teams race for the top while you know you’re out of it by the ASB.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 10, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirty Little Secret:

the VAST majority of us are NOT dicks.

Sure, if you come to the Bank, we will bust your balls pretty hard. BUT- if you return our fire a little bit with a good-natured smile and some witty comebacks, you will more often than not be greeted with a grin, followed by a handshake and then some engaging baseball talk.

Good example from Band of Brothers:

(After being ridden pretty hard all day by Guarnere, Hall (mockingly called ‘Cowboy’ by Guarnere) is informed that Guarnere is a good guy, Hall just needs to return his fire is all…)

Guarnere: “Hiya, Cowboy!”
Hall: “Shut your fucking guinea trap, Gonorrhea!”
Guarnere (to soldier next to him): “He’s all right, that kid!”

WARNING: The key is learning to read your audience and quickly differentiate what sort of fan you’re dealing with… the above-mentioned is your average, overwhelming-majority “Phils Phan.” However, there are the “Terrible Phew” (present in all fan bases, slightly more rabid and evil in Philly) who will quite possibly kill you where you stand without a second thought. Good rule of thumb… Ball-busting in-park: Usually a safe bet. Ball-busting in parking lot: Only attempt if you are an excellent judge of character and/or well-trained in Krav Maga.

by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 10, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, you sound normal enough.

I was raised to think you guys in Philly eat your young and worship pagan gods. It’s always fun to talk sports with other fans when homerism doesn’t get in the way.

by Creek Johnson on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can talk sports with anyone but a Muts or Cowgirls fan. It’s not hard just use a bit of tact some well placed sarcasim and, BANG everyone is happy.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 10, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

As one of the few resident Redskin fans

I offer a raised glass over our mutual hate of the Irvingboys.

by Sam Jethroe on Sep 11, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah a skins fan

im right there with you!

by ottie on Sep 11, 2010 3:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It pains me to say it

But I’m a skins fan too. Fondly remembering all the times Iggles fans invaded RFK and FedEx Field.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 11, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally

I think it’s cool that Phillies fans are venturing over here in the midst of this awesome pennant race. Sure, we’re dispositioned to not like one another at first due to simple team allegiances, but at least via the internets, it’s a small victory if we can coexist civilly and chat, and a bigger one if we can see it as good sportsmanship to make good out of it. I haven’t had my head cut off the sparse times I’ve piped in over at TGP or AA despite the popular notion that Georgians are dumb southern rednecks who are running internet connections via crank and generators, so I see it as a good thing.

A story I have is the last time I went to CBP was during a Phillies/Mets game, and I was in the CF SRO area with some local pals who were mostly Phils fans, and one Mets fan, and then there was me with my Braves hat. Being on the end of the line of us against the rail, I made a simple remark stating the obvious, since Wright had hit Moyer hard in his first two at bats, “I think Moyer should pitch around with first open and two out.” The response I got from a total stranger was “Well I think you need to STFU.” Debatable on how smart it was, but I got right back in his face and told him that “I think you’re f-ing wrong,” and stared at him for the next ten seconds. There was no handshakes or high fives, but he did acknowledge I wasn’t scared of him and then left. Replacing him later was a cool Phillies fan whom was a bit more cordial, fascinated at the irony of a Braves fan in the middle of a Phils/Mets raucous, and one whom we laughed and shook hands at the silly walk-off walk ending to the game.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

southern rednecks who are running internet connections via crank and generators

I don’t know what i did to deserve this cheap shot, but i’m sorry.

Coming soon: winningugly visits Atlanta, takes dump in royhobbs’ Braves hat.

by 10-4 on Sep 11, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woo hoo

Woo hoo

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 10, 2010 11:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Woo

Hoo

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 10, 2010 11:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just bought my tix to the Oct 3rd game

WOOOOHOOOOOOO!!! (I put that before I say Jman’s “Woohoo” comment)

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Sep 10, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

say = saw*

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't have too many

Woo hoos. This was a huge game for the Braves to come back and win.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 10, 2010 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Personally, I’m more of a Wahoo man, but that’s just me.

by fandave on Sep 11, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get out of here, you dirty Indians fan!!!

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

can somebody tell me how the postseason tix work?

u get refunded if they dont make it? how does the refund work?

A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....

by ATLBRVS_19 on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Refund?

Call an NL West team and ask them. We don’t need no stinkin’ refund.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 10, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i mean obviously i know we'll make it but in the 0.00001% chance that we dont, do u get a refund?

A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....

by ATLBRVS_19 on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you kidding me? think about how nice it’s going to be for a braves fan… You get an early start to cheer for the Falcons you get to watch the postseason from the comfort of your coutch. Philly fans are going to halfto sit out in the October cold to watch our team.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 10, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

although i'm not really sure how they figure that

A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....

by ATLBRVS_19 on Sep 10, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Chutley now would be a good time to post it.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 10, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure to which you are referring, BUT...

Just so the Braves fans don’t go to sleep worried that the universe is not as they thought it was this morning, so that they can rest comfortably in the knowledge that “Philthies Phans are Assholes,” AND since both teams had nice wins…

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.
.
.

by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 11, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best is

Jamie Moyer in the background with his disinterested “You’ve seen one dong, you’ve seen ’em all . .. eh, what the hell,” and glancing over the crowd since he’s eight feet tall.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 11, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would assume

they take winning %
x the number of games left
=A
than
take the winning % of next in standing
x the number of games left
x the odds of winning an extra game
x the odds of leader(s) loosing a few extra
=B

than A + B add in some long math that is beyond my knowlage you get a playoff %

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 10, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strength of schedule.

The Phillies % is lower because they have six games left with the Braves.

The Braves % is higher because they have six games left with the Phillies.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 11, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

zinggg

"I should have been like, 'Thank you, new guy. Don’t try the veal!'" - Chief Noc-A-Homa (Hohn's offspring)

by BMacAttack on Sep 11, 2010 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most playoff odds calculators had the Braves ahead because they don’t use the standings to calculate a teams true talent level. Cool Standings, for example, uses run differential (i.e. Pythagorean record).

by Ron A. on Sep 11, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow am I stoked. I really loved the lineup as soon as i saw McLouth in it. Hopefully Bobby will bat him higher.

McLouth
Prado
Heyward
Lee
McCann
Gonzalez
Melky
Infante

by drumzalicious on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Prado
Infante
Heyward
Lee
BMac
Gonzalez
McLouth
Melky/Diaz

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 11, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, I’m all for Nate getting the playing time in CF since he’s showing signs of life at the plate, but I have no idea why you’d want to bat him leadoff, or bust Infante down to the 8 spot …

"They should just give two ROYs in the NL and skip the AL this year." - KLaw

by Lennox on Sep 11, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. He’s hitting the ball well, but we shouldn’t break up the trio at the top of the lineup.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 11, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

this, at best Mclouth should bat where he did tonight… assuming he has in fact returned to something near Pirate Mclouth

by SuperHeyward on Sep 11, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

he looks like he’s driving the ball more and not popping it up, and we NEED someone to make solid contact in the 5 or 6 hole right now. I was even happy with his flyout, because he didn’t pull off the ball and drove it to straight away center. Hope it sticks

Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by Dan Kolb or Bob Wickman.

by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Sep 11, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The return of Nasty Nate could be a big boost.

And it sure seems like he’s getting some confidence back:

“Judging not only hits, but also the outs, when they start to be good, then things are heading in the right direction,” McLouth said.

/snip

“I’m taking good swings and getting good pitches to hit,” McLouth said. “It’s amazing what happens.”

by fandave on Sep 11, 2010 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

same here I’m always grumpy and I never real bust out of it

by SuperHeyward on Sep 11, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

know exactly what you’re talking bout

by forgotten_glory on Sep 11, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

great game

Let’s keep it rolling. Look for Big Red to throw a gem.

by Braves24 on Sep 11, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

haha

i said a couple days ago that i would be going to this game and that the braves are undefeated when i attend…well i am 4-0 on the year now…with i think 30 runs of offense on the days i go…so when we were losing i was like, no biggie…mclouth’s hr flew right over me…awesome game to go to…carpenter’s hr was a lil frustrating tho…

by forgotten_glory on Sep 11, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I was there tonight.

I’m now 5-0 on the season! But more importantly, tonight was a great game. And the crowd was amazing. A LOT of Cardinals fans, but during the bottom of the 6th, you couldn’t tell. It felt like a playoff game. When Brooks started it off with a single, they played the Chop. But the crowd didn’t stop when the graphics/music did. We chopped throughout the ENTIRE inning, and they ended up having to start the graphics back up for us.And this kept going on. It was so fantastic and I hope that it continues for the next three weeks.

by Sarahbeth on Sep 11, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I demand you attend the rest of the games… we will get a pool going for you plane tickets

by SuperHeyward on Sep 11, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Works for me.

I’d actually already be going today too (especially since I’m Hanson’s good luck charm), but sadly I have to work.

by Sarahbeth on Sep 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Work?

You really need to get your priorities straight.

A baseball diamond is, most simply, the intersecting of four 90-foot baselines, and, most powerfully, the intersecting of seemingly random lives.

by adc62 on Sep 11, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to jinx it...

but the match-ups of Hanson/Westbrook and Hudson/Lohse sure do look better than the ones with Wainwright or Carpenter. We really need our #1 and #2 to step up this weekend.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 11, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice W Boys

Keep attacking tomorrow! Will be in the house to see Hanson. Lets go Braves.

P.S. Nice to hear a hearty tomahawk chop chant tonight on TV. Hope the home fans turn out and juice up the park tomorrow too.

by CharlotteChop on Sep 11, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Was there tonight.

The place was jumping with around 40,000 +/- I’d say.

by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Sep 11, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice! I think I’ll be over in 224 tomorrow. Ready for a big W. Time to go on a roll.

by CharlotteChop on Sep 11, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

good seats, good atmosphere except for the crazed fan in a Chipper jersey cheering for the Cards.

Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by Dan Kolb or Bob Wickman.

by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Sep 11, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, the announced attendance right at around 40,000.

And I’m probably in that picture somewhere, haha (I was sitting in the upper deck, right in front of 3rd).

by Sarahbeth on Sep 11, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big pick-me-up?

possible similar effect to the Brewers game earlier this year, getting the bats going? Never thought I’d hear myself say what I said at the game tonight: “wow, McLouth is really putting good, LEVEL, swings on the ball.”

also, first post ever.

by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Sep 11, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Kolb-Wickman Effect

would YOU be interested in a Talking Chop PREMIUM Account?

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 11, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

there’s premium accounts?

by SuperHeyward on Sep 11, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

SuperHeyward

would YOU also be interested in a TC PREMIUM Account?

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Sep 11, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I MAY already have WON one?!

by SuperHeyward on Sep 11, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the game tonight with a bunch of family.

I’m very happy to preserve my perfect record this year (4-0 in games I’ve attended). That 6-run inning was a godsend. All of the sudden it seemed like we just figured Carp out and bang-bang-bang, we’re up by 4. We needed it because Minor did not have good stuff tonight (by his standards anyway). He topped out at 92 and gave up tons of hard hit balls (FG only has him with 2 true liners but there were tons of “Fliners” that were hit very hard). If he could’ve just gotten Carpenter out, it would’ve been a decent start, but those 2 RBIs were pretty dispiriting (especially the homer, obviously).

By the way, this will probably be my last post before I get married on Sunday, so I hope you guys can convince the Braves to give me the perfect wedding present—a series win. I hope everyone is doing well. I’ll “see” you all next week.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Sep 11, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials!

I hope we can secure that Series Victory as your wedding gift.

"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Sep 11, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pac's WPA at the altar is looking good

The green line represents Pac waking up, and the mythical “butterflies” after arriving at the place of nuptials. The yellow line is what represents the bride saying “I do,” the WPA soars through the roof.

Congratulations, Jacob!

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 11, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just Remember...

If Chris Carpenter can lose, so can Tommy Hanson.

We’ve got to hit. That’s the way to keep winning.

by Thrashy Thrashy on Sep 11, 2010 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

the last time i was on vacation...

…was in May and we won 9 in a row during the course of my vacation. Friday night was the first day of my next vacation. we’re going streaking!

you know my steeze!

by ledge2 on Sep 11, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: This Pic of McCann.

Who do you think you’re fooling Mac? As a pudgy (not fat. There is a distinct difference) fellow myself, I have also learned the value of the shaving optical illusion. On a clean shaven pudgy fellow, it is quite difficult to differentiate that ambiguous area where jaw meets neck. HOWEVER, thanks to the magic of the clean shaven neckline, we look thinner than we might otherwise appear. Well played, sir. Well played.

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Sep 11, 2010 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

let's do it

"It's here, it's here, it's finally here" :Strongbad on football season

by southman on Sep 11, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Lovely WN!

I’ll have another please.

"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Sep 11, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

McCann is a boss… and this is could be a turning point for the Braves :)

by Albert K on Sep 11, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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