Braves Stats of the Day: Jason Heyward and the Walk
by Scott Coleman on Aug 31, 2010 2:43 PM EDT
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PrintCourtesy of a Keith Law tweet this morning:
Heyward's 67 BB are already the 6th-highest total ever for a player 20 or under. 16 more would put him 3rd behind Ted Williams and Mel Ott.
That's pretty amazing, and that's even with Heyward missing a month with injuries. We might all get frustrated with Jason for being a little too patient at times, but the man already knows the strike zone better than most hitters in the league.
Here's one other stat that I dug up:
It took Jason Heyward 111 games to reach 67 walks. It took Jeff Francoeur 363 games to reach 67 walks.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the many differences between Jason Heyward and Jeff Francoeur.
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BB lead to a higher OBP...
and if that was so important, they why don’t they put it on the scoreboard?
/sarcasm
Great stats. Very telling…on both sides of the coin.
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by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 31, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
Yup..
He’s past his prime now ;-)
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
I'm thinking Law meant for a player who started the season at 20
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 31, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Flawed stat
The best part, I was having this discussion with my best friend, about how this part didn’t arise until someone challenged his “discovery” by revealing that only 58 walks was before he turned 21.
Imagine if a phenom started the season at age 19 on April 3, and then turned 20 on April 4. Now despite the fact that he’ll be breaking all sorts of records for 19-year olds, he’ll have been 20 for 99.3% of the season.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
In the past week Heyward has placed himself back into ROY discussions. If he can finish strong with an OPS of .900+, I think he’ll have it in the bag.
"C'mon Chip!"
bench him
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Aug 31, 2010 2:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You can't say enough good things...
About Heyward.
He’s been killing the ball lately. He went on a huge power drought and is still only 3 HRs off the rookie lead (and leads in OPS).
If he knows the strike zone this well at this age/stage in his career, what happens as he becomes a more experienced hitter? Scary…for all other teams.
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
can we please stop mentioning frenchy????
it’s been a year and he’s not worth the screen resolution this blog post is printed on.
congrats j-hey. keep up the production, bring us that sweet home field advantage through the playoffs!
haha
poor frenchy… at least his wife is hot
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Aug 31, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
How else are all of us gonna keep our old pink Francoeur jerseys relevant?
"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Aug 31, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 31, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
guess i'll keep talking about Elvis Andrus...
by toppleprone on Aug 31, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Go for it. He’s a good player.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 1, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
who is the other in that ranking
1. Mel Ott: 113 BB (most in his career during 1 season)
2. Ted Williams: 107 BB (162 most in his career during 1 season, he did it twice)
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6. Jason Heyward: 67 BB, so far
pretty good company
1. Mel Ott – 113 (1929)
2. Ted Williams – 107 (1939)
3. John McGraw – 101 (1893)
4. Al Kaline – 82 (1955)
5. Butch Wynegar – 79 (1976)
6. Mickey Mantle – 75 (1952)
7. Reddy Mack – 68 (1886)
8. Jason Heyward – 67 (2010)
9. Frank Robinson – 64 (1956)
10. Ken Griffey – 63 (1990)
why KLaw said that Heyward is 6th and needs 16 to be 3rd
He´s not incluiding McGraw and Mack because of the years they played?
even better list = OPS
1. Mel Ott – 1.084 (1929)
2. Ted Williams – 1.045 (1939)
3. Alex Rodriguez – 1.045 (1996)
4. Al Kaline – .967 (1955)
5. Jimmie Foxx - .964 (1928)
6. Frank Robinson – .936 (1956)
7. Mickey Mantle – .924 (1952)
8. Vada Pinson – .880 (1959)
9. Jason Heyward – .867 (2010)
To be fair, not a lot of 20 year olds play a full season in the bigs, but that’s what six or seven first ballot HOFers as the only guys ahead of him?
just go to the Baseball Reference leaderboards
you can search everything by age
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/leaders_20_bat.shtml
Also...
Out of 102 Ks going into last night, how many were of the 6+ pitch variety.
This team has gotten strong in the late innings because of chasing pitchers due to high counts early.
Guys who work ABs like Prads and Heyward at the top of the order are priceless.
I’ll take 130 Ks on the year if he works close to 100 walks and the bulk of the Ks allow the rest of our club to look at the pitchers arsenal, and aren’t of the 3 pitch variety with a lot of 0-2 counts.
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