Atlanta Braves Fan Confidence Was Up
by gondeee on Aug 26, 2010 11:22 AM EDT
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PrintThe last Atlanta Braves Fan Confidence Poll was taken on Monday, the day after a 16-to-5 pummeling of the Cubs, so it not unexpected that the fan confidence was up at that time, but not much has gone right since, and unless the Braves can exact some measure of revenge against the Marlins this weekend, then this week's rosy number will fall precipitously.
The FCP went from 77 percent confidence a week ago to 83 percent confidence this week, steadily gaining throughout August -- a month in which the Braves had won every series until they met the upstart Rockies in the spacious confines of Coors Field.
The FCP may also have been bolstered by the Derrek Lee acquisition. Though Lee will need to do better than the 3-for-24 number he's put up so far as a member of the Braves.
Atlanta needs to get their act together this weekend and get back on the winning side against the Marlins, or we may see the FCP take its biggest plunge yet. Let's hope that's not the case.
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I still confident
that the Braves are in the right direction. We have ALWAYS had a problem against the Rockies and their thin air. I see us getting back on track back in Atlanta this weekend. Hopefully Friday because I will be there.
Is anyone
Else extremely disappointed by Derek Lee’s inability to hit fastballs?
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 11:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It’s a small sample size, but I certainly expected more from a guy with his contract. This years mid-season trades as a whole have been disappointing. Gonzo is hitting and driving in runs and getting on base great, his glove is fine, but if he throws the ball all hell is likely to break loose. Ankiel has a great arm, but struggles getting the ball out of his glove. At the plate, I wish he’d concentrate on making contact, too many K’s with that big swing. And Farnsworth, good grief, didn’t we learn our lesson him 5 or 6 years ago? Very disappointing group of aquisitions.
Heyward is pretty good
On the plus side, except for Gonzo at least the Braves didn’t give up anything we’ll really miss in the future. And Escobar HAD to be sent elsewhere, so I’m not criticizing the move to get Gonzo. Of course what we got back hasn’t helped much, but again, at least it didn’t cost a lot either. I don’t mean that the Braves gave up trash, not at all, but they have plenty of relievers in the minors. In the end, I don’t think they’ll miss anyone who’s gone.
Lee did come with big warnings that he was having a poor year and it was a big gamble to expect him to play better than he did for the Cubs. It would have been great for him to have caught fire, but I guess few of us are honestly surprised that he didn’t. I’m not seeing this as likely at all, but if the Braves wanted to make a bold move they could put in a waiver claim on Manny Ramirez. I’ve got more hope in Manny being able to lift the team in September than Lee, Ankiel or Glaus. And I know many of us have been reading the first hand reports of Glaus’ fielding misadventures in AAA. If playing him at 3B is supposedly “the answer” then this team’s playoff chances are in big trouble.
Since Manny dropped the hormones he can rarely make it onto the field anymore. I admit the “historical” Manny could have helped the Braves, but I don’t think bringing a bad attitude, really bad defensive, bad egg into the fold is an idea I can get behind.
I’ve watched Glaus in AAA the last 2 games, I think the Braves would be better served to rest his legs, DH him in Gwinnett and forget the 3rd base nonsense.
Lee has been good since the All Star break, but he is also now battling a buldging disc in his back. He got off to a screwy start by not joining the team immediately, then playing his former team. I hope he comes around to being at least a .250 hitter with a good glove,
Heyward is pretty good
Interesting Note:
Manny would be in the top 10 in OPS if he had the ABs to qualify.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
another interesting note
Manny has 2 hits in the last 58 days
Heyward is pretty good
Win.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 27, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
45 of those days were spent on the DL or he didn’t play……so take that for what it’s worth
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
Good call. 2 hits in 2 week’s worth of games sounds much better.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 27, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Waiver claim on Podsednik?
We need to do something because Ankiel cannot keep playing everyday. As for Farnsworth, the man has been just like Jessie Chavez; everytime he gets into a close game he screws up royally…We basically gave them a young arm who throws straight fastballs and hangs breaking balls for an old one that does the same…that trade gets a big F- from me. I think the book is still out on Lee, although if he’s gonna hit .125 the rest of the season, we coulda just stuck with Troy.
by michaelcooksey on Aug 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
We don’t need to claim anyone else, unless it is for LF. Melky can play CF just fine.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 26, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you can give the trade an F-
For starters, there is no such thing as an F-. Once you hit F, you are at the bottom of the barrell. Furthermore, even if such a thing existed, this trade wouldn’t be it; for it to fall into the worst possible category, we would have had to give up something of value. We really didn’t give up anything we will particularly miss. Therefore, even assuming that what we got was garbage, we didn’t lose a lot, meaning the trade wasn’t that bad.
Also
Ankiel has won a game or 2 for us on both sides of the ball.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He's well aware, yo!!
Well aware!!
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Value is a relative term...
and considering the cost control going forward of Blanco and Chavez, let alone Collins, there is “value” that we gave up. Since the trade, Blanco has been what we all were accustomed too (decent contact, good speed, no power) and Chavez has been pretty bad, but we got higher salaries for worse production from Ankiel and Farnsworth. And Collins has continued to perform well, now in AAA.
I think one can very easily give that trade an F considering we got more salary, for less production, from players who are older and can’t be on the team next year for less than $500,000.
The salary you and lack of affordability for next year that you speak of is what pushed me into the non-existent F-…
by michaelcooksey on Aug 26, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Fallen
Confidence after a 3 game sweep and to cap it all off losing a 9 run lead…Can’t say its where it was a week ago. Braves need to get there act together with away games and facing lefties.
Don't expect a huge dropoff next week
As long as we show up against the Marlins, probably a drop back to around 80% is realistic. Though the Colorado series was disappointing, there were things to be optimistic about. Heyward is white hot, AGonz is hitting well, and even Ankiel was solid on offense and defense. And we can’t forget the Phails are kind enough to match us loss for loss.
The Braves are 8-16 at Coors Field since 2004: I’m pretty sure that’s their worst record at any NL ballpark in that time, so a tough series was to be expected. Besides, games like yesterday will happen. No team is immune to an epic comeback.
When you’re on the losing end of one of those games, you just suck it up and keep playing.
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
Yeah...
everyone should drop their confidence level probably 5 or 6 points, since this is a totally different team from a week ago.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
We can't be 2.5 games going into and out of ...
…a three game series against the Phillies. Yes, if there is a rain-out the lead could stay the same, but then it wouldn’t be a three game series. ;)
Yes
That was sarcasm based upon the length of time this 2.5 game lead has existed.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it could be worse.
We could be Met fans.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
by UMDBHIK on Aug 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Last night was the game the Phils had to win to have the best chance of avoiding the sweep.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillies losing again today.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
I like this….they’re getting no-hit even
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
Well, I don’t really care if that causes the no-hitter to be broken….as long as they lose
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
It’s been off this whole month….I need to get it re-calibrated
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
If Houston holds on I’ll feel a little bit better about heading into the weekend… Marlins always play Atlanta tough
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The one good thing is that their team, since the last time we played them, has been plucked apart….but Uggla is still there….and that’s never a good thing for us
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
Confidence Poll
Confidence of what? Making the Playoffs? Winning the World Series? Winning a game against a lefty?
your confidence for the entire organization. The Majors, Minors, trades and signings they make, how the team is playing, etc.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
Making Playoff = 95%
Winning WS = 75%
Winning against a lefty who isn´t Sananta = 5%
Doing some king of weighted average that equal to 83%
Those are PhD level equations you are dropping on us… I don’t know whether to be more excited about your airtight conclusions or to cry because i’m so confused how 95 75 and 5 make 83 haha
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I´m just kidding, but could be
0.95X + 0.75Y + 0.05Z = 0.83
X+Y+Z=1
because there are more unknown than equations, i suppose that Z = 0.05 because one game doesn´t have a great value, so solving lineal equation of 2 unknown.
X = 37.5%
Y = 57.5%
Z = 5%
That means that making playoff has a value of 37.5% and winning WS is 57.5%.
Nice… Can we construct some matricies and solve this linear algebra style?
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
per the poll
As always, this poll and therefore your confidence level should encompasses several areas of the team. These areas include, but are not limited to, the team’s ownership, current management, talent, minor-league system, and general playing ability on the field.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Wait, you mean that people should actually read something before giving their input on said something?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 27, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
5-1 Astros!
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
man this guy Bourn is really fast
could the Braves have a player as fast as Bourn in the future?
bourn is considered one of the fastest, if not THE fastest player in the majors
so probably not. though we have a lot of speedy guys in the lower minors, including some we drafted this year
He was bourn to run!
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
Wasn’t he on the Phillies at one point too? Or am I thinking of someone else.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He was on the Phillies
But got traded to Houston in the Brad Lidge deal. He’s fast, but it’s a shame he’s a prick who whines about strikeouts, and shows up his teammates.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
We got swept, and (probably) gained 0.5 games in the standings. Cool beans.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
5-1 'stros going into the 9th!
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
Off topic: I’m pretty confident that we’ll bounce back from this series, so if we play well during this homestand, my confidence won’t be affected much, I don’t think.
But back to the topic at hand, I cannot believe that the Phillies are about to (hopefully) get swept in a four game series at CBP. By the Astros. This is so fantastic.
this
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
1 more out for the Stros!!
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Aug 26, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
and babydick.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
2-2 now
gave on MLB network
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Aug 26, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
3 game lead for the Braves!!
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Aug 26, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
AStros win
3 game lead.
finally no more 2.5 game lead
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEP!
3 games up!
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
Am I the only one
who was happy they got Howard and Utley back? They sucked big time with those guys in the lineup earlier in the year, and they suck again with them back.
Really...
Just because we got swept and actually gained half a game doesn’t excuse the fact that we didn’t play well.
Agreed
However it wasn’t like we got swept at home…..Huddy didn’t have his good stuff and we still “almost” won…(Thanks Rapuano)…….Lowe – well gave up 3 runs and we couldn’t beat the lefty………..Yesterday…..Offensive explosion followed by Implosion……
Now if we do not win 2 of 3 against the Fish then it will be time for concern.
but it helps. can you imagine if the Phillies would’ve swept? We’d be down a game, so be happy.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
mainly to Lee (Astros)
He was killing the phillies. 2HR, 6RBI during this series
Wow. How do the Phillies get swept by the Astros at home?
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
2.5 games lead curse
and Wandy beating Kendrics
I'm gonna keep on with the 10's!!
I know many will change… And while last night blows, but I’m not gonna change my thinking! This team is to good for that to happen again, particularly our pitching staff. We have sick arms and a fist full of good to great position players in the minors… whats not to like people?
by UpstateNyBravesFan on Aug 26, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
future
I think that the Braves made the wrong move with D Lee at first. They should have gone after the Cub’s Third basemen who is playing much better and can replace Chipper there next year. Chipper is at best a reserve next year with his knee injury and loss of skills over the last two years, but I think that he will retire because he has to much pride to play at such a low level for such a big salary for another season. chipper killed the team over the last two years with such low production and being paid super star money. I’m not as rich as Chipper but I have as much pride and I would give my salary back and play for the minimum If I was in the same position so that the team can put some big time productive talent on the field to win it all.
Chipper, even with a reconstructed knee (which should theoretically make him stronger) is far superior to a replacement player and would STILL be considered one of the best hitters in baseball.
You are crazy if you think Chipper’s near-.400 OBP kills the team.
You are just a hater. Chipper isn’t even making superstar money.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 27, 2010 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions
There are so many things wrong with this statement
I need charts to delineate them all.
The team has 99 problems but Chipper ain’t one.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Chipper is paid big bucks to drive in runs not for on base percentage. You can get a great on base percentage guy for a quarter of his salary, and that guy will probably be able to steal bases and drive in runs as well. Yes Chipper is the problem for the Braves furture, however he has been my favorite player for years but his time as a star player has come and gone. If he really wants to come back then he should set goals to produce as much as most players in his salary range for the year before he collects his big check or not pick it up if he doesn’t. I think that he will do the right thing for the only team that he has ever played for and is more loyal to him than any Brave in History. They let Henry Aaron go when he had more skills than chipper does at the end of his Braves career, but he was black.
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"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Have they just had an incredible run of luck?
confidence is dropping, they havent hit the ball well this year, but were good for one game a week scoring more than 5. this past week, scoring 10 didn’t even help. Batting is off, now pitching too? I dont think you can expect to make your way through the playoffs relying on late game scoring every night, now I am not sure they will even make the playoffs. Bobby always has one pitcher in the pen he over-uses last year it was Moylan, this year it is Venters. The rookie has pitched a lot of innings I hope he has something left for the stretch. I also think just about every acquisition the Braves made to help the team has only at best left it the same, and in some cases worse. It has taken quite a while for Ankiel to start hitting, and I dont know why Bobby keeps starting him instead of Melky. Ankiel had three plays against the Rockies where he dropped the ball taking it out of his glove. Gonzalez has been ok, but not this great defensive player he was touted. Farnsworth was and is a bust, and we dont have the luxury of waiting for Lee to get comfortable and start hitting. Sorry if I sound overly negative and pessimistic, it is just very frustrating to lose to teams that are having lousy years (Marlins, Nationals,etc). There is a month to go, lets hope it goes our way!
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