Braves Quote For The Day ... Robinson Lopez

Teams have so many draft picks that Wren will take all of the above.

Drafting a bat(s)

is what you are actually saying. Punctuation and capitalization are big helps. You may have some great points in there somewhere, but it’s way too much trouble to try to figure out what you are saying.

Everyone’s calling the Washington Nationals idiots for not trading Dunn and getting more than those two draft picks. Teixeira > Dunn.

So…it’s a bad deal for us because the draft pick the Angels got turned out to be good instead of bad?? Seems to me the jury’s still out on this type of thing, generally speaking.

-C

And would you rather the deal have been from anywhere from $4M to $12M (most on the middle-to-high side of that range) for guys like: Rich Harden, Kris Benson, Paul Byrd, Brad Penny, Mark Mulder, Pedro Martinez, Oliver Perez, Mark Prior, Ben Sheets and Randy Wolf??

Those were the other “average to above-average” pitchers available in FA that year. Say what you want about his price tag, but we couldn’t have signed Lowe for less money. We would have ended up with one of the above instead.

Again, it’s easy to look back and say, “Too much money.” But, at the time, he was the best option available, that’s what he cost, and we needed him. If you look at the other pitchers available and their own individual situations at the time, it’s pretty clear that Wren signed the right guys at the time. And, while expensive, their performances have been far better than any of the above listed pitchers.

-C

They had no idea what Hudson was going to do with regards to a potential contract extension, and that’s to completely ignore the fact that they didn’t know ho he’d pitch.

If you’re evaluating Lee on a half-year, why are you using his full season OPS?? His OPS since the All-Star break is .939.

Seems to me like Law is picking and choosing his arguments to fit his conclusion rather than choosing one way to evaluate and sticking without throughout the evaluation in order to come to a conclusion.

-C

That’s like saying KK was a terrible deal because he was in the bullpen then the minors. In a vacuum, the deal wouldn’t be bad at all. Our mismanagement doesn’t determine how much he’s worth.

was a 2.5 FIP 2 draft pick player

yankees fuck ups and NYC pressures aside

And the Yankees aren’t offering Vazquez. The mention of two picks is completely irrelevant to the trade evaluation.

-C

in your opinion. Be specific, because you don’t know that one way or the other.

Offer him arb, and you can get the picks or risk paying him a sizeable sum. Don’t offer, and you gave up all that for a few months. And if he accepts arb that isn’t the worst thing in the world. It makes for a high salary, and we are needing to lose salary already (KK, Lowe, McLouth, etc). But there are also the benefits in that when he’s healthy, Lee is more than worth the money, and he’d allow the team to delay Freeman’s service clock and give him additional time in AAA to fine tune his game. There are possible negatives to offering arb, but possible positives too, and it’s all up to the front office to make that call. I’d assume no Cox and the family issues that were mentioned in him declining the Angels trade play big roles in his thinking on whether he’d accept or not.

Melky/Dunn/(Vizzy surplus value over Lopez)

and reliever who has excelled at AAA, at about the same age as Harris in his first full year, so Dunn clearly > than Lorick as far as lefty relief prospects. And Melky is at least an average position player, which is already considered more valuable than a middle releiver, let alone a middle relief guy in AA who may or may not ever make it. Yeah, I’d side the difference between Melky/Dunn and Lorick/Harris is a bit more than “pretty insignificant”.

You’re equating two major-league caliber players and the value they provide to a couple guys who will likely never make it out of the minors?

I happen to think the Braves are not going to be as good at scouting without Roy Clark. It would be a natural thing, right? Besides, Frank Wren is not John Schuerholz yet. Odds are that he’ll never be close, so thank your lucky stars that John Schuerholz had enough sense to assemble a scouting staff that kept the team stocked into the Wren years.

no offense as I dont know you personally..but most likely you fail in any sort of comparison.

the kid (what i have decided I shall be calling CB) is a stud…if there was a list of most useless knowledge regarding current and former braves prospects, CB would be nbr 1

I did look it up, only to make sure that I had the names right. I probably could have produced most of that off the top of my head, but with so much readily available information it’s worth making sure I’m right.

Laroche is nowhere near as good as Miggy.. like i said Miggy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hitter in baseball

Laroche is like the 8th best 1B (not a knock on him)

we don;t pay chipper’s contract if he retires I believe, but I could be wrong. And there definately a way to dump McLouth, but we won’t becuase he is our best option at CF going forward if he can get his shit back together.

It’s not a big difference, but Hudson has 9M a year for 2 years and a 9M club option for 2013.