Comparing The Braves' First Half To Pre-Season Fan Projections
Before the season, I did a series of posts looking at the Fan Projections that were voted on by the users of FanGraphs. The fans projected the performance of hundreds of players; I compiled those projections for each NL East team to see which team had the best projected infield, outfield, rotation, and so on. I then added up all these values to project the final standings.
In this post, I'll take a look at how the Braves have matched up with their fan projections so far. I hope reading this will help you appreciate just how amazing it is that the Braves are in first place (some players have severely under-performed their projections). Keep in mind that a slight underperformance is normal. The projections do not take into account injuries and such, so if a player is only 0.3 WAR under their projection, that is normal. Similarly, if a player has matched his projection so far, that should really be thought of as a slight over-performance.
All projections below are for the pro-rated part of the Braves' season so far (82 of 162 games). For the full-season projections, see the original articles.
Starting Pitchers
| Player | Projected WAR | Actual WAR | Difference |
| Tommy Hanson | 2.3 | 2.0 | -0.3 |
| Jair Jurrjens | 2.1 | 0.2 | -1.9 |
| Derek Lowe | 2.0 | 1.2 | -0.8 |
| Tim Hudson | 1.7 | 1.2 | -0.5 |
| Kenshin Kawakami | 1.2 | 0.9 | -0.3 |
| Kris Medlen | 0.7 | 1.2 | +0.5 |
First off, I know that a lot of you will be surprised to see that Hudson has the same WAR as Derek Lowe. That is because WAR is based on FIP rather than ERA. For most pitchers, FIP is a better assessment of performance than ERA, but Hudson is clearly an exception to that rule. In reality, Hudson has been much better than he was projected to be; just disregard his WAR values.
As for the other players, Jurrjens' injury clearly was a big blow to the team. If he can perform up to expectations in the 2nd half, that will be a huge boost. Hanson and Kawakami, despite some inconsistency, both basically matched their projections. Lowe has been somewhat disappointing, but not disastrous. Kris Medlen has done a very good job filling in; his projection was so low because the fans thought he'd only make 10 starts all year, a number he has already matched.
(More after the jump...)
Relievers
| Player | Projected WAR | Actual WAR | Difference |
| Billy Wagner | 0.7 | 0.9 | +0.2 |
| Peter Moylan | 0.6 | 0.2 | -0.4 |
| Takashi Saito | 0.3 | 0.6 | +0.3 |
| Eric O'Flaherty | 0.2 | 0.4 | +0.2 |
| Jesse Chavez | 0.1 | 0.0 | -0.1 |
| Jo-Jo Reyes | 0.2 | -0.1 | -0.3 |
Not Projected: Jonny Venters (0.7 WAR), Craig Kimbrel (0.1 WAR), Chris Resop (0.0 WAR), and Christian Martinez (0.0 WAR)
Frank Wren's two big bullpen additions (Wagner and Saito) have both outperformed expectations, but the biggest surprise would have to be Jonny Venters, who was not even eligible for projection because he had not debuted in the big leagues. Venters was not even on my radar before the season, but he has been fantastic--second only to Wagner in the Braves' bullpen.
Eric O'Flaherty and Peter Moylan have also been good, though Moylan has been inconsistent. The fans thought Jesse Chavez was a replacement-level reliever, and sure enough, they were right. The less that is said about Reyes, Resop, and Martinez, the better.
Infielders
| Player | Projected WAR | Actual WAR | Difference |
| Troy Glaus | 1.1 | 1.2 | +0.1 |
| Martin Prado | 1.4 | 3.0 | +1.6 |
| Yunel Escobar | 2.2 | 1.2 | -1.0 |
| Chipper Jones | 2.3 | 1.3 | -1.0 |
| Omar Infante | 0.5 | 0.5 | 0.0 |
Not Projected: Brooks Conrad (0.8 WAR), Brandon Hicks (0.0 WAR)
Yeah... Martin Prado is awesome. He's already passed his projected WAR for the entire season. Troy Glaus has also done well, exceeding his projection slightly despite a terrible UZR number (that I think will go up as the season progresses). Yunel and Chipper have both underperformed, but both have been better in the last month or so. Infante has done pretty much exactly what he was expected to do... Well, he wasn't expected to make the all-star team, but other than that he's been exactly what the fans thought he'd be. Brooks Conrad, on the other hand, has been much better than anyone thought. He's been a huge boost.
Fun fact: the Braves' infield has more WAR than any other infield in the division, including the Phillies' heralded group.
Catchers
| Player | Projected WAR | Actual WAR | Difference |
| Brian McCann | 2.7 | 2.5 | -0.2 |
| David Ross | 0.8 | 0.8 | 0.0 |
Both our fantastic catchers have performed up to expectations. That might surprise some of you; after all, Brian McCann has supposedly been having a "disappointing" year. The fans who voted on these projections probably aren't too surprised, though. And really, he's been pretty darn good. If he picks up his game in the second half, he could easily exceed his full-season projection. Ross' 0.8 WAR is greater than that of several starting catchers, including the NL's All-Star starter, Yadier Molina.
Outfielders
| Player | Projected WAR | Actual WAR | Difference |
| Jason Heyward | 1.0 | 2.0 | +1.0 |
| Nate McLouth | 1.8 | -0.8 | -2.6 |
| Matt Diaz | 1.1 | -0.3 | -1.4 |
| Melky Cabrera | 0.7 | -0.6 | -1.3 |
| Eric Hinske | 0.6 | 0.6 | 0.0 |
Not Projected: Gregor Blanco (0.3 WAR), Brent Clevlen (0.1 WAR)
Ugghh. I never thought this would happen, but our outfield has not played any better than last year's outfield. Three of our top four outfielders to start the year have dropped off a cliff, playing at worse than replacement level. McLouth and Diaz have had injury issues on top of their incompetence, too. McLouth has probably been one of the biggest disappointments in all of baseball. Maybe we do need to trade for another outfielder after all...
On the plus side, Heyward has already matched his projection for the whole season (though that wasn't a fan projection; it was a combination of his CHONE and Bill James projections). Eric Hinske was a huge help for a while, though he has come back to earth dramatically in recent days. Gregor Blanco has played surprisingly well, too.
Wrap Up
Given all of the underperforming players the Braves have, it's fair to wonder how they are in first place. There are a few reasons. First, we've gotten nice contributions from some unheralded players (Venters and Conrad). Second, Martin Prado and Jason Heyward have been twice as good as the fans expected. Third, WAR probably understates the value of several of our players, most notably Tim Hudson.
Of course, this is all relative. The Braves do lead the NL East in WAR, though the WAR standings do not match up with the actual standings:
| Team | Hitting & Fielding WAR | Pitching WAR | Total WAR |
| Braves | 11.5 | 9.5 | 21.0 |
| Marlins | 10.2 | 10.2 | 20.4 |
| Mets | 12.7 | 7.1 | 19.8 |
| Phillies | 10.3 | 7.1 | 17.4 |
| Nationals | 9.9 | 7.4 | 17.3 |
Based on the pre-season projections, it is not surprising at all that the Braves are leading the division (in WAR or in actual wins). The Braves did have the highest WAR in the fan projections. What is surprising is that the Phillies have fallen off the pace quite a bit, due largely to injuries. Fun fact: Roy Halladay (3.9 WAR) has more than half of the Phillies' pitching WAR, and 22% of their overall total.
It's interesting that there is so little difference between the Braves' and Marlins' WAR totals, though 9.5 games separate them in the standings. The Braves have outperformed their WAR by around 4 wins, and the Marlins have underperformed their WAR by around 5 wins. Maybe Jeffrey Loria was looking at these numbers when he fired Fredi Gonzalez (fat chance). The Nationals have also underperformed their WAR values by around 4 wins.
It will be interesting to see how the second half of the season plays out. So far, it is good to know that the fans' confidence in this Braves team has been largely rewarded. Let's hope the second half goes as well as the first!
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Excellent post.
Thanks for taking to the time to do this. Stuff like this is a large reason I come here to learn more about the Braves and the rest of the NL East.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
I think Broosky's WAR should be out the roof even tho thats not how WAR is calculated
his WAR is 0.8 right now, even though we owe 1.0 games completely to him and since that game the braves have been on a absolute tear
A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....
True.
Which is one reason why WAR isn’t everything, and why our record is 4 games better than our WAR would imply.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hinske is only at 0.6 WAR for the season?
Really? What gives?
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
He was much higher
(I believe he got up to 1.1 or 1.2)… But his recent slump has been absolutely brutal.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s true…dude hasn’t had a big hit since the game winner two weeks ago.
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
by Scott Coleman on Jul 5, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks,
it’s fixed (Tommy is the first one in the list).
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I had
The Braves and Mets battling it out for the top spot in the East, and got completely thrown under the bridge for even considering the Mets as contenders.
Well, I guess you were right...
They’ve had some injury problems (still no Beltran, for instance), but they are right up there. I still doubt they make the playoffs, but they’ll be a factor.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s July, not September…don’t toot that horn too loudly just yet. The Mets have had some serious over achievers and not many underachievers thus far.
Now, if they could land a SP or two, they might just stick around.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 6, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
FIP vs. ERA
You’re a lot smarter than me, but this kind of rubbed me the wrong way:
For most pitchers, FIP is a better assessment of performance than ERA
FIP, to me, is better suited to predicting future results. I think it’s a bit haughty for us stat-heads to talk about how well a guy really pitched. If he got out of more jams than he should have, he was still getting out of them. Perhaps it’s unlikely he’ll continue to succeed with K/BB south of 1, but outs are outs, knowaimean?
Anyway, thanks for doing these again. Where are those cool diamond graphs? I hunger for graphs!
The BtB guys do a good job of discussing this issue.
Here. And I agree with you, its just that WAR is nice and convinient for summary purposes.
Groundball pitchers are the antithesis to statistical forecasting because they kind of buck the trend of what statistics say they should be doing. I don’t know if there is a stat out there that can accurately predict what a grounder guy can do because, for one thing, they are a bit inconsistent even if they put up similar statistics. A lot of it has to do with defense I am sure. Hudson is just a prime example that the stats can’t always be relied upon to predict
There's a few others who can buck the trends
Tom Glavine’s career WAR is seriously low-balled because FIP is used in WAR calculations, and Glavine is one of very few pitchers who had the ability to consistently out perform his FIP and xFIP.
Mariano Rivera
has beaten his FIP and xFIP in 8 of the 9 years in the FanGraphs era, too. It’s all about inducing poor contact, which often (though not always) results in a high GB%.
I hope that one day, we’ll be able to measure the force of contact from bat to ball. It would really help us assess this aspect of pitching, which right now we can only sort of guess at.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
what's a "grounder"?...
Not all grounders are the same. Does a rocket shot skipping off the ground count the same as a weak dribbler? Say the grounder that ricocheted off Huddy’s shin yesterday, would that be a grounder? Because as sharply as it was hit, it’s got a much better chance of being a hit imo than most others on the ground.
That is my biggest beef with a lot of the advanced pitching numbers, even including LD%, GB%, FB%, those 3 things can vary based on the person making the call between the 3. From as bad as being prejudiced to just where they sit in the park and the angle/perspective they view them from to the fine line between sharp shots on the ground and well hit fly balls, and other incalculable variables.
I agree.
Hudson is the exception. The key thing with FIP (as with any statistic) is to know its strengths and weaknesses. If you see that a guy is an extreme groundballer, you can take his FIP with a grain of salt. For guys with average GB/FB ratios, though, FIP is very helpful in separating out luck (including defense) from pitcher performance.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My whole point
was that some pitchers (ie, Hudson) can legitimately outperform their FIPs. I do think that those guys are a minority, though.
It’s not haughty to imply that the underlying performance is different from the results. If a guy hits 4 lines drives that just happen to be caught, nobody thinks he had a bad night at the plate. This is the same thing.
As for the graphs, I didn’t have time for this edition. I’ll do some for the recap after the season, though, when I have more time.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Hudson's SIERA
SIERA was a new stat that BP came up with this spring, an attempt to improve on FIP. At least one of the ideas behind it was that it gave more credit for extra ground balls to ground ball pitchers because ground ball pitchers tend to have more runners on first, leading to more double plays. Basically, the idea is that the extra 5% of groundballs between 30% and 35% is not as valuable as the 5% between 55% and 60%. Given Hudson’s astronomically high GB rate, I think he would look better in SIERA than FIP.
Hudson has been incredibly lucky this year
It’s highly doubtful that after 10 years in the big leagues that he’s magically discovered a way to lower his BABIP 30 points and his strand rate 10% below his career average. He’s undoubtedly been extremely valuable for us so far this year, but to expect him to continue to put up the results he has with the peripherals he’s had is crazy.
He has put up
the highest GB% in the history of the statistic so far. So no, I don’t think it’s crazy. BABIP is useful, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. Try looking at a few other statistics instead of being dogmatic that every low-BABIP pitcher is purely reliant on luck. Dogmatism doesn’t make anyone look good.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
well
Huddy has said that his arm feels like it did in his early days with Oakland so if you combine the stuff he had then with the knowledge of how to pitch that he has now its not to far out there to think that he could sustain this
by drumzalicious on Jul 5, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Has there been any accepted method discovered to quantify that ubiquitous, but ever-ambiguous, “clutch” factor? And if so does WAR take it into account? Cause I figure we have to have a freakin’ high ass clutch score, to attribute to alot of our wins.
Help me! Some bullies threw my shoes over a telephone wire...with me in them!!
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jul 5, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions

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