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Oswalt to Phillies

As most of you have now heard, the Phillies acquired Roy Oswalt earlier today.  That makes them a better team and it will be interesting to what if any response comes from the Braves in the next couple days.

I was not really that surprised that the Phillies got Oswalt, what surprised me was how little they gave up.

They gave up J.A. Happ who is a decent pitcher but turns 28 later this year and becomes arb. eligible for 2011-2013.  Nothing against Happ but when he's healthy he's a decent number 3 starter but not much more and that's when he's healthy.

The Astros also got two minor league prospects in the deal; Anthony Gose and Jonathan Villar

Gose was the Phillies number 6 prospect and shortly after the trade the Astros sent him to Toronto for Brett Wallace.  Wallace who started out as a Cardinal 3B prospect was sent to Oakland as part of the Holliday deal and then sent to Toronto as part of the Lee trade from last off season.  Wallace who had to move to 1B because of defensive issues at 3B is the guy who will probably take over for Berkman next season if he doesn't get moved before the deadline.  Gose is a not yet 20 year old CF at A+.

Villar was the Phillies number 22 prospect and a guy who is said to have upside but is a long way away.  He is a 19 year old SS who is at A ball.

What's even more surprising is that the Astros didn't get much in return and sent $11M along with Oswalt to cover most of the $16M he's owed next season.  The deal hinged on Oswalt waiving his no trade clause which he did without forcing the Phillies to pick up his 2012 option for $16M.  All the Phillies did was raise the buyout $1M to $3M.

It seems to me that with the Astros eating that much salary why didn't more teams get involved.  Happ was the only major league ready player in the deal.

My question is if the Braves offered Medlen and our 6 and 22 prospects which are Mike Minor and David Hale would you have done the deal with the same financials.

I can tell you that I would have.

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Wrong aisle in which to be shopping. We need a bat, not an overpriced starting pitcher.

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Jul 29, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

medlen + minor > Oswalt

imo.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Jul 29, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Brett Wallace for Anthony Gose

by Braves24 on Jul 29, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Wallace has been disappointing

His numbers aren’t very impressive for a 1B in the one of the more hitter friendly parks in the most hitter friendly league in the minors.

by nixa37 on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing is our farm system is one of the best in the game

and Minor would probably be a 3 or 4 in their farm system

If Jason Heyward were to hit a home run off of you, you would have to fight the urge to thank him.

by bravesforever16 on Jul 29, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly

Im not too worried about them getting Oswalt. However if they get Bautista then I will be a tad bit worried since they would be playing him at 3B and keeping their OF intact.

As far as how much they paid for him I’m shocked as well. Same goes for what the Angels paid for Haren. I fully expected the Phillies to need another team to come in and give up some pitching prospects in a 3 way deal that they sent Werth somewhere else but I guess not.

I would love to see Frank Wren pull of a blockbuster type trade. Our system is deep enough that we could give up a few guys for someone that would be worth it. Matt Kemp would be a great addition. He could bat between Chip and McCann and can play CF.

We’ll just have to wait and see what happens Saturday.

by drumzalicious on Jul 29, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Phillies won again

Somewhat surprisingly though, the Nats have also put up a decent fight against them in the past. The Phillies’ streak (build on a homestand) has got to end sometimes as they hit the road to Washington this weekend.

by LEastCoastBears on Jul 29, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m so glad the Yanks didn’t get Lee, Haren or Oswalt.

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Jul 29, 2010 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

actually

I was kind of hoping they got Haren. I really think they will regret going after Lee this offseason.

by drumzalicious on Jul 30, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

they did

he just turned them down for something they said

Beware Newyorkers, Jason Heyward has arrived, he will rob A-rod of 100 homeruns, and will bring at least 5 world series trophies to the great city of Atlanta

by southman on Jul 30, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No more Matt Capps!

sweet

A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....

by ATLBRVS_19 on Jul 29, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Insert Storen

Boo.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Jul 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Id rather them have Capps now than Ramos in the long term.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Jul 30, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry guys

Philly will trade him in the offseason and then pick up Jake Peavy next trade deadline.

Headlining the Campaign for the return of Ryan Langerhans! MVP 2011!

by RichmondBraves on Jul 29, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Matt Capps traded to Twins.

No suprise. Twins needed a bullpen arm, but the Nationals recieve Wilmer Ramos and Joe Testa. Is that too much? Ramos was blocked by Mauer but couldn’t they gotten a better return by some team?

by Braves24 on Jul 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ll be OK with this deal if he pitches the rest of the season like he did tonight

by AJCbeat on Jul 30, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

me too lol

"JASON HEYWARD STRIKES AGAIN"

by southman on Jul 31, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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