Braves Option Nate McLouth to Gwinnett, Recall Brent Clevlen
DOB also adds that they have not made a decision on recalling Blanco when he is eligible, and that Jason Heyward is an option for CF as well.
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I thought they would give him a few more opportunities to succeed at the Major League level based solely on his performances in years past, then make a move either externally or internally.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
No Mr. Bond. I expect you to die.
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
by award6 on Jul 27, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Green.
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
LMAO!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I expected a DFA...
…because I didn’t realize McLouth had options left. Actually I very suprised about that, but I guess he hasn’t been up nearly as long as I thought.
That and he was good early in his career for a bad team
Which means he probably didnt have many years when he was sent up and down. Good players usually have option years left even when they are older.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Options are based on years, not number of times sent up and down?
I remember Julio Franco having an option left a few years back- oldest player in AAA.
Yep
Options are actually years. If you are sent down at any time in the season, you use up an option. The team can send you down as many times as they want during that season without using more options.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
thats a good question
And I believe so. September means the roster expands from 25 to 40 people. The people who are in an option year are already going to be on the 40 man roster. As far as I understand it, an option year is used anytime you are on the 40 man roster, but not the 25 man roster.
So, the people who would normally be called up are probably already using an option year anyway.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
So how many options does Glaus have left?
by Sparklemotion on Jul 29, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I hope he finds a way to turn it around. He simply wasn’t getting it done recently.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Woooooooooo Doggie!
McLouth wasn’t as terrible as his numbers show, like somebody suggested after the big double play he hit into the other day, if it is a few feet either way he is the hero. That shot was a rocket but it was right at the SS.
That said, his “swing improvements” were non-existent in my opinion and he needs to fix it before he is an everyday player again.
He just isn’t our best option right now, so I’m glad the front office has a sense of urgency and sent him down.
When is Greg White eligible to return?
I knew there was some sort of rule about the length of time he had to stay in the minors before getting recalled, but I don’t know exactly what it is, so if someone could be so kind as to enlighten me….
This is great news though
Diggity-damn!
They’re not f-ing around. I love you Frank Wren!!!
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
I know a lot of people here..
“hate” him, and I realize he was performing terribly, but I can’t help but feel bad for him. It has to be hard to go from the year he had a couple of seasons ago to this. Hopefully he will be able to use the time to really work on his hitting and maybe get turned around.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Jul 27, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Ageed
I don’t “hate” anyone, but I’m frustrated. I’m sure he is, too. Like you said, it must be hard. I also hope he turns it around
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
well said
Nate always seemed like a nice guy and a hard worker. Hopefully this will be a new beginning for him.
I don't hate Nate
I hate to see him at the plate in a Braves uniform.
You have to be at least a little bloodless if you want to win. He’s a pro, he’ll be able to handle it. It’s not like they marched him out in front of the crowd, tore the tomahawk off his chest, broke his bat over Chino’s knee and forced him to march out into the parking lot.
"FIP isn’t horseshit. It’s just horseshit for Hudson." - frozendesert
by Sam Jethroe on Jul 27, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I agree...
I’m just a mom, and I think about how I would feel if it were my son.
But, it’s not.
So, GO GREGOR & MELKY!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
My mom
Always thinks about Donnie Moore in cases like this, so I understand.
"FIP isn’t horseshit. It’s just horseshit for Hudson." - frozendesert
oh man...
That still makes me want to cry…..
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Oh man
I wasn’t familiar with him and his story. I don’t remember when he played for the Braves. Just read about him, though. This is a sad, sad story.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree 100%
I like the guy. I also like Francour (and I’m not being mean about that – 100% love the guy). And I do feel bad for them, but both players reached points where they were legitimately costing the Braves wins. With the Phillies starting to warm up (and now facing the Dbacks), the Braves can’t afford to lose more ground.
My sister and I just yelled out “YESSSSSS”
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
I edited the main post
To include DOB’s following tweet. Jason Heyward in CF? I think it’s a good idea, personally. Now get Luke Scott and we’re set.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
I’d like to see Jason in CF.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
He could probly handle any outfield spot.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
heck
just let him bat three times each time around the lineup and let him cover the OF by himself.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
you, madam, are a genius. enjoy the fruits of your thoughts.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
mmm….fruit.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
mmm......peaches.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I peach Atlanta….WOOOOOO lets go attack Atlanta with peaches!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Attack my mouth with peaches, please.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll attack your face with peach pie…oh wait I might tear my knee.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
lmao……………ugh….
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, what the heck /slams peach pie in your face
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
/slams unseen peach pie in your face, simultaneously.
….we both avoid knee surgery, and the DL, and laugh out loud about Coughlin’s inability to slam a peach pie into someone’s face, injury-free
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmm…../eats pie.
Coughlan, you clown
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is a clown, isn’t he? Too bad he didn’t clown before game 1. Phuck.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I dislike Coghlan because he stole ROY from Tommy
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no, I think he was called up after a month in the minors, but I can’t remember
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We under-estimated the sneakiness. Glad he got what he had coming. : )))
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wisdom
I dislike Coghlan because he stole ROY from Tommy
"FIP isn’t horseshit. It’s just horseshit for Hudson." - frozendesert
Just had some wonderful
fresh, yummy, juicy, Georgia peaches for a snack.
HEAVEN!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
ugh.
hate you, baker ; )p
Get it.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Peaches come from a can
They were put there by a man
In a factory
Downtown
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
millions of peaches for me....
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Ben,
Thanks a ton for covering this and the Ross move. I’m stuck at work and the Internet isn’t working. My phone is all I have right now.
Thanks again.
Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward.
by Scott Coleman on Jul 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Internet not working? PANIC PANIC PANIC
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your up in PA right? that storm system killed us in SJ, I was caught at the beach and a tornado touched down in my hometown.
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
I'm still...
trying to recover from the gross stupidity of that.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Gotta give it up to Nate...
I have never liked the guy as a ballplayer, even with Pitt, but this was a move that Nate had to agree to for it to happen. With his service time he could have refused a demotion. He earns some respect from me for that.
Likeswise
You gotta feel bad for the guy. Like someone said earlier, its not like he wasn’t trying. I also think some more time in AAA to get his head straight will do wonders. He may yet be a valuable player again come Sepmtember
by BravesDawg16 on Jul 27, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
good point...
he seems like he wants to part of what the Braves got going. Let’s hope he can fix what’s ailing him and get back to help.
You have to have 5 years of service time (which McLouth doesn’t) to refuse an assignment but remain with the club (presumably forcing a release). With 3 years of service time you can refuse an assignment and become a free agent. That would be a dumb move McLouth’s part as he wouldn’t find anyone willing to pay him close to what he’s due for the rest of this year and next.
Thank God
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
I think somethings wrong with him physically
I don’t see how he can just go from a solid MLB starters…to this.
by steeeeezzzzzz on Jul 27, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
(cough)TP(cough) ....lol
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves lineup: 1. Prado 2B, 2. Heyward RF 3. Jones 3B, 4. McCann 5. Hinske LF, 6. Glaus 1B, 7. Gonzalez SS, 8. Cabrera CF, 9. Hanson P
from DOB
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Hope Melky keeps doing what he was doing before McOut propelled us onto a losing streak.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Man...
I need for us to face some lefty pitchers so Diaz can play. I forgot to switch him out of the outfield of my fantasy team this week.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Finally..
..but can someone explain why it was Brent Clevlen and not Matt Young? Just wondering if there is something that I am missing.
"It said 'Bear Left,' so they turned around and went home...." - John Smoltz
It may be because of the 40 man roster
Im not sure, but I think Clevelen is on the 40 man, hence why he was called up awhile back
by BravesDawg16 on Jul 27, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Chavez needs to be sent down the river, as well. Fast.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Chavez, pitching for us in the playoffs, = Fail
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless it's the 11th innings, whereas he goes bases loaded, no outs, and stays in...
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Please no.
Much worse.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
YAY!
I suspected that when McFail got pulled after he hit into that vidro that Bobby had had enough of his lameness. Good to see it is the case
I’m a bit surprised by this move. I thought McLouth had another week to turn it around.
by LEastCoastBears on Jul 27, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
You gotta feel bad for the guy though
Don’t get me wrong, he was terrible here but its not as if he wasn’t trying. I really think some time to clear his head at AAA will work wonders for his confidence. He just needs to get his head straight because at this point its all mental. Nate may yet still be a valuable guy come September
Honestly, I wasn’t expecting dude to be such a Lil Queef. lol. Maybe that shit jelled more in Pittsburgh.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well i think everyone that followed the Braves thought it was a good trade at the time, myself included. I don’t know why, but he just never seemed to hit his stride here and then he started to lose confidence and it just snowballed from there. He was good enough to be an all-star at one point, so I’m not ready to give up on him being a good player again
by BravesDawg16 on Jul 27, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 i agree with alot of that exspecially the part about the confidence.which is what scares me most because of how things went with frenchy but only time will tell but he just isnt doing it right now and until he could make maybe more strides in AAA we should keep him there,unless it comes time to cut the ties and he dosent return to his form which we thought we were getting once we traded for him he’s making too much to just ride it out in AAA.
Prado is a 1 man wolf pack
by SkipTOoMyL0U_ on Jul 27, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was an amazing trade, i got happy
-Dont Stop the Chop-
by HawksBaseball2 on Jul 27, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i could only concentrate on the grammar
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
~Earl Wilson
Be careful
Or the Grammar Monster will eat you tonight while you’re sleeping
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Your opinions will be passed along to the management. Have a nice day, shopper.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
as bad as it was
I giggled reading it the second time
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
~Earl Wilson
me, too. lmao
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh gotcha
Yea I was confused at that terminology as well, Not sure why “queefing” jells better in Pittsburgh or anywhere for that matter…
by BravesDawg16 on Jul 27, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a special about it last night on ABC. It was especially queef-tastic.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No reason to be a dick about it
Hes not a bad guy, just bad at baseball right now. With that said, he is still better than anyone at this site.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
keep him put
I thought about how we might see him again in September as a pinch runner, but I think the better idea is to leave him at Gwinnett and if he has success, let him have more. Let him have a full, solid third of a season down there, a long off season to follow, and come back next spring with a chance to compete for a spot on the roster. If he gets fifty ABs down there and hits .310, does anyone believe that will translate to Atlanta? I think he’d wilt instantly again. No thanks.
I understand why they tried hard to get him going. The best possible Braves lineup would start with a productive McLouth batting leadoff (by productive I’m thinking the Brett Butler numbers we were hoping to see) and Prado second. Imagine how many more RBI Prado would have. But now we have no real centerfielder heading for the stretch of a pennant race, and the reigning badasses of the NL are waking from their slumber. This is hardly Wren’s finest hour.
I don’t know what the solution is in center. Maybe there isn’t one. Maybe the solution is to bring Troy Glaus back from the dead. It’s been more than five weeks since he or Heyward hit a homerun. I think it’s possible. Just needs to start tonight!
"I don't care about that. The players don't want to read about the damn manager." - Bobby Cox after some late 90's milestone.
Silly.
There is absolutely nothing to lose by bringing him back up come September to give him a chance at real redemption. That doesn’t happen in AAA.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn
Guess I need a new OF for my fantasy team….
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
seriously???
You kept him through concussion and sub-mendoza line hitting? I’m pretty sure there’s at least 20 other guys available in the free agent pool that outperform him.
by GT_Thrashfan on Jul 27, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
YESSS !!!
bye bye Nate Mc Louse…………Now, Lets get rid of CHAVEZ !!!
heck y'all
the braves management usually gives a player 3 years to be unproductive. this is nate’s 1st. get off his back. look at the recent past. frenchy and yunel had more than one chance to improve, they didn’t and were traded.
which leads to the dangerous habit of selling low
by kbertling353 on Jul 27, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Those two transactions
Were more like appendectomies than sales of any sort.
"FIP isn’t horseshit. It’s just horseshit for Hudson." - frozendesert
hey bpk
If you have Mc Louth on your fantasy team…..YOU SUCK !!!
thank you baby jesus
dont get me wrong but i think we all agree nates a great guy/team mate but once he blew that based loaded with 1 out in the 11th and i forget but i know he had i think two other chances too drive sum runs in crucial times in the game then being replaced for melky,so im not tottally surprised neither would i be if he is DFA within the next few days the money he has could be making could benefit us maybe alittle more towards a new contract for infante or hinske..also they say cleven might be catching sum stride at the plate so hopefully he can keep it going on the big club
Prado is a 1 man wolf pack
His contract is guaranteed...
so dfa doesn’t save us any money.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i see..well im up for leting him trying to figure things out in AAA before promoting him again..his confidence is obviously shot right now
Prado is a 1 man wolf pack
by SkipTOoMyL0U_ on Jul 27, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely...
maybe he figures out what’s wrong and can get back to being a valuable player. Hell, maybe he does great in AAA for a couple weeks, an OF with Boston, the Yankees, or another WS contender gets hurt and we can have him claimed in waivers in August. But no point in cutting him since you’re paying him either way.
agreed..i did not know he was already paid in full,im jus glad it seems he wants to be here so atleast his work ethic or drive cant b questioned..hope he puts it together come september
Prado is a 1 man wolf pack
by SkipTOoMyL0U_ on Jul 27, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not "paid in full"...
his salary is just guaranteed. So if we cut him, we’d owe the balance remaining on the deal over this year and next (including the buyout), minus whatever another team gave him, assumedly the minimum ($400,000). So the savings really isn’t worth it.
yeah no point in just throwing money away exspecially if he can figure it all out. i held my breath when it looked for a second frenchy could b turning things around before returning too old form.. id hate to cut nate lose and have him thrive and return to his form on another team :(
Prado is a 1 man wolf pack
by SkipTOoMyL0U_ on Jul 27, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
id say yes to that if gonzo wasnt playing so well and the thing abput him n prado sold me tottally but yunel def needed a change of scenary even tho it pisses me off too see him dropping bombs now but every1 on that team is! who coulda saw bautista leading the homerun race at the break?! i think there somthing in the water up there lol
Prado is a 1 man wolf pack
by SkipTOoMyL0U_ on Jul 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves starting SS before trade: .238/.334/.284/.618
Braves starting SS after trade: .325/.400/.475/.875
Just a quick reminder that we’re doing better with Gonzalez than we did with Escobar.
SSS, obviously, but we’re still coming out ahead so far.
-C
should be compared to what yunel does afterwards
by kbertling353 on Jul 27, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, because what Yunel does on a different team, facing different teams, facing different pitchers, playing in a different ballpark batting in a different spot in the order with different teammates surrounding him is relevant to his value to the Braves organization.
-C
by cthabeerman on Jul 27, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It absolutely is when you throw in a statement like “but we’re still coming out ahead so far.”
That means your opinion is that the Braves have benefitted more from the deal. Which, without Yunel’s stats for the same period, is an unfounded statement.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
When's the last time any of them had to answer a question about an aloof, careless play by a disinterested player?
Oh, yeah…
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Reading comprehension
His post discusses ON FIELD issues. Nowhere in there was Yunel’s attitude addressed. You would be wise to think before you respond.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Careless play is on the field, and you can’t judge his stats with another team because it is not the same situation. Coming out on top does not mean getting the better of the other team, it means getting the better of what you had in place.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
Come on.
Even FYF’s revivals have been longer than ten days.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I have never been happier in my life to see Melky in the lineup
GO BRAVES!
AFTER CAREFUL FIELD OBSERVATION CAN ACCURATELY CLASSIFY ENTIRE TEAM BREWERS MILWAUKEE IN C:/FILE: "WHINY FAGS"
Put this on a few posts but wanted to get some feedback...
I just heard an “on-the-block” name that I hadn’t seen mentioned before, but I think it makes the most sense out of ANY of the names tossed around recently.
Scott Podsednik is a left handed bat and not a big power threat (only 5 HRs on the year) so for all the people demanding right handed power, you won’t be pleased. But he’s hitting .308 on the year with 30 stolen bases and only 56 Ks in 380 ABs. Defensively, he’s more than serviceable as a LF/CF with good range, though I’m not sure how his arm is.
We could hit him leadoff to utilize his speed, move Prado down to second, and Heyward down to sixth in the everyday lineup.
Podsednik
Prado
Jones
Glaus
McCann
Heyward
Hinske/Diaz
Gonzo
Plus, we know Dayton Moore is comfortable trading with the Braves. I’m no GM so I have no idea how much of a package it would take to complete this trade, but I can’t imagine the asking price would be that high.
So, shoot it down tell me what you think?
''We cover the outfield like kudzu covers the land around here" - Bobby Cox, 2004
Well, McLouth is a lefty and he was already starting there, replacing him with one isn’t a big problem.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
Not a fan
.345 BABIP and 12 CS plus a -4.5 UZR/150 in CF.
I’d rather move Heyward to CF for the rest of the season and trade for a corner guy, but that’s for another discussion.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
by BenDuronio on Jul 27, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm starting to like that idea
If its only for the rest of the season. Who could we trade for?
This is my last comment on this, the rest should go to rosterbation.
Josh Willingham, Adam Dunn, Luke Scott, Corey Hart, Jose Bautista, Jose Guillen, and Garrett Jones
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
I'm not big into the sabermetrics...
I just know he’s been a consistent stolen base threat and has a career .341 OBP. If we can get a guy like that on base in front of Prado’s rake, and move Heyward down to protect some of our big(ger) bats, I think it would be a very viable option to increase the offensive production…
''We cover the outfield like kudzu covers the land around here" - Bobby Cox, 2004
341 OBP just isn't that good
I don’t think Pods is an upgrade over Melky or Gregor
by kbertling353 on Jul 27, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
please
use the rosterbation thread.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Other threads get stale, this one was active...
sorry to post an idea and ask for comments on a forum where people post ideas and ask for comments. I’ll try not to make that mistake again…
''We cover the outfield like kudzu covers the land around here" - Bobby Cox, 2004
by Kudzu Kid on Jul 27, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And you are a douche
and the guy posted it on like 6 threads. One is enough, and the rosterbation thread is their for precisely that purpose and is pretty active.
On like 6 threads probably equals 2, max of 3
Pretty sure the “douche” thing to do is spend your time on a baseball blog telling other people where to post.
by kbertling353 on Jul 27, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
bitching about a trade is radically different than policing comments for fun
by kbertling353 on Jul 27, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure the douche is the one who either 1. Doesn’t read the rules of the community or 2. Ignores them and breaks them anyways, making the thousands of other readers looking for good material have to look over your hypothetical trades and proposed line-ups.
"Look out Atlanta. Jason Heyward is going to wow you."
-Chipper
by kauf67 on Jul 28, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If your thread of interest is stale...
It’s likely no one but you cares.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
is it possible
that FW is going to blindside us with a deal? i mean, we weren’t exactly expecting alex gonzalez… now that mclouth is sent down i’m content to sit back and wait for something to happen. i figure something has to be coming, right?
Heyward in CF - Make it happen FW and Bobby
LF- Hinske/Diaz
CF- Heyward
RF- Bautista-Willingham-Hart….. all the solid trade options we have gone over ad nasium for the corner outfield
Cabrera and Infante Backing them all up
It is soooo much easier to find an impact bat at RF or LF than it is to find one at CF. When you have a guy playing RF now who can play a solid CF it just makes too much sense. Wren is a smart guy, I think he will figure it our
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Jul 27, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Solid, yes...
But do we want Heyward in CF long-term? And if so, why would we put our best player there for a short-term fix?
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd say it'd be a short-term solution
The reason being: We need to make an addition, and the corner outfield options for out number the CF ones.
"Look out Atlanta. Jason Heyward is going to wow you."
-Chipper
CyborgHanson48 OVERLORD WREN FRANK UNDERESTIMATES HUMAN MCLOUTH NATE -WORTHLESSNESS STILL CONTAGIOUS TO BRAVES ATL FROM COUNTY
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
(“GWINNETT”)
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow, so, at this point, Clevelen is more useful as a pinch runner/defensive replacement
than McClouth? Jeez, I feel bad for the guy, but what else can they do? He is untradeable and unplayable.
I am not so sure about Heyward in CF. He has already shown how injury prone he is since his minor league days. The idea of that 6’6" diving all over the park scares the hell out of me.
Clevlen is better defensively
But the main purpose is to get Nate at bats so he can be a productive player again. He gains nothing by hitting but a few times per week.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
by BenDuronio on Jul 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am just not sure that he can hit at all anymore...
I thought that his only potential value, at this point, was in the Brandon Hicks role, but I did not know that Clevlen was that good defensively. Thanks.
No.
But he’s the guy who we’d rather see not hitting at all because we don’t trust him. Nate has shown an ability to be a well above-average major league OF. Clevlen? Not so much. And I’d hardly call Heyward “injury-prone.” They were just very careful in babying his minor pulls and strains that every player gets because he’s, you know, Heyward.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
it's official
KK is getting the win in game 7 of the WS with a perfect game, and McLouth is going to hit the walk-off HR
liar
KK hits the walkoff HR
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*walkoff GS
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
I see a troll under that bridge!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys
Nate McLouth was my preseason value pick for centerfield on this fantasy site I write for!
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
LOL
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jul 27, 2010 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
anybody been hard on you about that yet? ha
-Dont Stop the Chop-
by HawksBaseball2 on Jul 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I made
Bold, breakout season predictions for Yunel all over (as my grandmother used to say) Hell and half of Georgia, so…I feel your pain.
"FIP isn’t horseshit. It’s just horseshit for Hudson." - frozendesert
I’m the guy that wrote the season preview of McLouth for TC.
I don’t think gondeee should let me do one next year.
"I should have followed Rhyno's advice..." Mr. Sanchez 06/18/2010
i dont think we can blame you, nobody could see this coming whatsoever ha
-Dont Stop the Chop-
by HawksBaseball2 on Jul 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
.178/.279/.265 just doesn’t cut it at this level. I feel bad, but it’s completely understandable. McLouth has been nothing but detrimental since his return… that especially showed in the Florida series.
Melky’s .263/.320/.360 looks at least a little better in CF for a while, and his defense has been adequate. We’ll see what FW has up his sleeve.
Kawakami - 1, Halladay - 0
A shade over .200
For a shade over a full calendar year. It’s like he just forgot how to hit.
"FIP isn’t horseshit. It’s just horseshit for Hudson." - frozendesert
i may be dumb but...
what’s a vidro? I get that it’s GIDP, but why vidro?
despite the fact that
in 2 seasons, yunel hit into the same amount of DPs the year that vidro hit into his most (21), and then 1-upped him another year with 24
Today is a day of good news.
First Rossy’s extension and now this. I like Nate as a person, but by golly he was just killing us. I think Melky / Blanco can hold down the fort in center, but I am loving the idea of trying Heyward there for the rest of the season and acquiring a corner OF bat. Maybe his defense won’t play there, but we won’t know until we try… And if it does play there, that just makes him even more awesome.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
Honestly
i hope he figures it out so we have some wiggle room with the outfield next year. right now we’re looking at LF and CF needing to be filled this offseason and thats on top of 1B and possibly 3B
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