Trade Deadline Rosterbation

instead of putting my trade proposal in the main post i’ll just put it in the comments section.

I still personally would like us to trade for an outfielder but whoever it is needs to be a Center Fielder in the event McLouth continues to be a bust. Also I don’t believe the player needs to be a Right Handed hitter either.

A trade for Josh Hamilton would be great IMO. Hamilton could play CF and he would be a huge difference maker in our lineup. With him being under contract for next year we would have the option to not rush Schafer back as well. If Schafer is ready we can slide Hamilton over to LF.

Rangers get:
Mike Minor
Cory Gearrin
Robinson Lopez
Christian Bethancourt
J.J. Hoover/Adam Milligan

For
Josh Hamilton

Braves lineup becomes

1. Prado 2B
2. Heyward RF
3. Chipper 3B
4. Josh Hamilton LF
5. Glaus 1B
6. McCann C
7. Gonzalez SS
8. McLouth CF
9. Pitcher

Yes the package is huge however all of those players are blocked with maybe the exception of Gearrin so while we are giving up a lot of talent we aren’t really going to be missing that talent years down the road.

I’m getting an outfielder, I’m vying for Franklin Gutierrez from the Seattle Mariners. He covers CF exceptionally well, and can shade more towards the left field alley to further fortify our miserable left-field defense of Hinske or Diaz (assuming that Jason Heyward continues to improve in the field). He would give us an extra threat of speed at the top of the order, where his bat would most certainly play. We can retain his services at a very manageable rate (for what he offers) until the end of the 2014 season.

Braves:
CF Franklin Gutierrez
INF Nick Franklin

Mariners:
SP Arodys Vizcaino
SP Randall Delgado
RP Mike Dunn

I’m no expert on prospects. Too much? Too little? Too stupid?
Feedback’s welcome.

Report: Cards may be eyeing Alex Gonzalez

FW is going to flip Alex Gonzalez to the Cards! Probably for Pujols!

FW = GENIOUSSSSSSSSS

What do you all think of sending RHSP Derek Lowe to the Chicago Cubs for LF Alphonso Soriano? The contracts are reasonably close – Lowe gets $15M/year through 2012, while Soriano gets $18M/year through 2013 – so little if any money would need to change hands. Despite better production over the last two months, Derek’s largely pitched like an overpaid back-of-the-rotation innings eater since arriving in Atlanta. As for Alphonso, his weak 2009 appears to be a fluke, but he’s certainly fallen out of favor in Chicago; maybe a change of scenary into a pennant race would get his head straightened out. As for our pitching staff, Kawakami could return to the rotation and offer similar numbers to what DL has put up thus far; his place in the ’pen could then be taken by a relief stud like Mike Dunn. All in all, I think this makes the team better; thoughts?

TRADE HEYWARD AND HANSON 4 STRASBURG AND BRYCE HARPER
CAPS CAPS CAPS

I feel we need an OF, because although Melky has come along, McLouth is a bust and Hinske isn’t an everyday player

My top 3 guys… Corey Hart, Josh Willingham, and Cody Ross
2 of those guys are in the NL East so they may be tougher to get if they were in the AL

My Proposal…Trade for Corey Hart

Milwaukee is despersate for Ready now Pitching and we have a guy they’d probably kill to have, Mike Minor

Trade

Braves Send: Mike Minor and Nate McLouth(bust but maybe a change would help him)
Braves Get: Corey Hart

Thoughts? Maybe Minor is too much to give up but just my proposal

Since everyone else is throwing out impossible deals, here’s mine.

Seattle Mariners get:

Kenshin Kawakami
Randall Delgado
Mike Minor
Christian Bethancourt
Low-to-Mid-level prospect

Atlanta Braves get:

Ichiro Suzuki
Mid-level prospect TBA

Rumor is that Ichiro is becoming increasingly disenfranchised with the Mariners and is “depressed” over how this season has turned out. The Braves would have a difficult time taking on Ichiro’s salary this season, no doubt about it, but enough room could clear up for 2011-12. Getting rid of Kawakami’s salary would create a small dent in Ichiro’s salary while giving the Mariners a Japanese presence to replace Suzuki.

The vast majority of the Mariners prospects are position players, with their only major need coming at the catcher position. Bethancourt is still young but could fill that need. Minor will be ready for the big leagues soon and Delgado’s addition will provide the Mariners further help in the rotation down the road. With Hernandez, Minor and Delgado, the Mariners could have the makings of the best rotation in their division for years to come.

Pros: The Braves will have arguably the two best hitters in baseball at the top of their order and can slide Heyward down to the sixth slot to provide some power with RISP. He’s done his best work batting sixth this season. The Mariners are infused with a bunch of talented pitchers that will give them an edge in their division for years to come.

Cons: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

-C

How about this player? Scott Podsednik.

1.Can play CF adequately
2. LF bat that hits lefties fine
3. Could leadoff, allowing Prado to hit second
4. Should be cheap to get
5. Plays for the Royals, should be able to get him for a couple of crappy prospects, since the Royals love our leftovers.

Mike Minor for Josh WIllingham?

A question in Keith Law’s chat came up about this deal and he said the Nats would at least consider it because of how interested they were in Minor last year with the 10th pick.

Keep in mind Willingham would only be here for 15 months or so, but I think I’d do it.

McCutchen.

How much would you give? Please keep in mind quantity is not a substitute for quality.

I’d let ’em have:

One of the big 3 arms (yes, even JT), one of the second tier (Minor, Lopez, Hoover), and one of Mycal Jones, Milligan, Schafer, or Kyle Rose. Would throw in one of our lefty relievers if it were a deal breaker.

Feel free to rip my proposal to pieces. I wonder if I am overvaluing Cutch…

…And his .533 OPS before he completely loses his trade value. People don’t seem to realize just how terrible he’s been. Anyways, I saw a call for Franklin Gutierrez earlier in this thread, and I’m all for it. I would offer:

Schafer
Bethancourt
Vizcaino

And we get Gutierrez. Yeah, that may be overpaying for him, but guys like him are really valuable and the M’s would probably accept that offer.

Looks like he’s going to be hotly pursued. Apparently, the Padres are interested, and Bud Black checked in at the HR Derby to let him know as much:

“He had a little bit of time, and I was in the clubhouse,” Black said. "I said, ‘Nice round.’ and he goes, ‘Thanks.’ Black continued, “a lot of those balls would have gone out of Petco.”

with the emergence of diaz this last week (and it’s really no surprise because he’s mashed lefties for his career), the rh power bat may be fixed. however, melky is still seeing way too many innings (as most of us thought he would under bobby cox). how long can the braves tolerate a center fielder that plays below average defense and and offense? looking at our roster, we’ve been extremely fortunate to win this many with such poor production coming from our outfielders. now that we’ve sacrificed OBP for SLG when we acquired alex gonzalez, melky’s nonexistent OBP cannot be hidden.

the colorado rockies are in need of pitching…all kinds. there rotation is lacking one #4-5 starter and their bullpen sure could use another lefty arm…we have both. my blockbuster rosterbation trade idea:

braves get: dexter fowler and a prospect (corey dickerson would be nice considering he’s a southern boy)
rockies get: mike dunn, kenshin kawakami, and melky cabrera

*the braves agree to pay the rest of kenshin’s 2010 salary.

dexter fowler provides stability from the right side of the plate (he’s a switch hitter, but unlike most switch hitters, hits from the right side much better). of course o’flaherty takes dunn’s place on the roster and the long man in the pen becomes resop. the lineup will look accordingly:

prado
heyward
chipper
bmac
glaus
diaz/hinske
alex g.
fowler/mclouth

So a good point was brought up recently that the Yankees now have essentially 3 question marks in their rotation.

1. Burnetts injury: Scheduled to make his next start. Uncertain how he will be during that start though.

2. Petitte: Groin injury out for 4-6 weeks. Could linger longer if not treated correctly.

3. Hughes: Approaching his inning cap for the year down the stretch.

So what about a 3 way deal? If the Yankees go after someone of a high caliber thats signed beyond this year they will need more than the package they proposed to Seattle for Cliff Lee.

So of course the thing is that most teams aren’t even thinking about moving any of these players unless they are getting a ridiculous offer that blows them away.

Now up front I will say that because I don’t know their system I can’t honestly make the best package but I will try.

Of course this is all crazy rosterbation and would prob never happen but its fun to do anyway.

Braves get:
David DeJesus
Alex Gordon

Royals get:
Mike Minor
Jordan Schafer
Robinson Lopez
Jesus Montero
Zach McAllister
Slade Heathcott
Manny Banuelos

Yankees get:
Zach Greinke
Joakim Soria
Brandon Hicks

Yanks get a starter (although hes now rumored to have a shoulder problem) their needed utility infielder, and solidify the back of their pen.

Braves get their replacement CF and future 3B.

Royals basically get a butt load of talent with a couple of players who they could have crack the majors next year in Minor and Montero with Schafer possibly later in the year. From there they have a few more guys who are a few years off but have tons of upside.

Of course the fans of KC would be heartbroken but in 2-3 years could have a great rotation and a solid core.

Its a little bit much for the Braves to give up but Gordon would be worth it IMO.

If anything the Royals could use another prospect.

But hey, I guess with the Pirates you just never know.

Would be a perfect time to bring Willingham with them.

Orioles GM said last week that NO young Orioles player is off limits.

If Nick Markakis is available, NOW is the time to get him. The Braves could possibly buy low since his home run power is down a bit this year. Can you imagine Markakis, Freeman, Heyward in the same lineup for years? Hnnnggg

I would think a package would look like:

• Medlen
• Delgado
• Bethancourt

I am still fantasizing about KJ at 3B next year. Has anyone seen his numbers so far? He is having a fan-damn-tastic year.

That I really hope we dont trade for Cody Ross. We are going to have to over pay to trade in our division and that would be a bit too much IMO

If I were Frank Wren…

100_0329_tiny by ChopMaster on Jul 20, 2010 4:58 PM PDT Comment 9 comments, 9 new

If I were Frank Wren, I’d start having some serious thoughts about the bravos. maybe evaluate the braves at each position, element, and statistics of the game. Maybe bring in a new hitter to freshen things up while not messing it up. I’ve heard that the Braves are interested in Corey Hart, Josh Willingham, David DeJesus, or Cody Ross. First of all, throw Cody Ross into the wastebasket, he’s a waste of time. I’ll tell you why. YOU NEVER EVER TRADE ANY PLAYER, NO MATTER IF HE’S GOOD OR BAD TO A RIVAL IN YOUR OWN DIVISION, except when the rival isn’t too good.

The Braves might be able to take up Willingham without giving up a huge sum of prospects. And that’s all the material the braves have. prospects. maybe a few Rookie Leaguers and perhaps a Gwinnett guy, like Ryne Reynoso, or another major league possible, like Josh Anderson. Here’s one I’m thinking about:

Braves: Josh Willingham and maybe a minor league pitcher.

Nationals: Ryne Reynoso, Matt Crim, Matt Young.

Here’s some remedies for trade fever. Bring up the prospects. Promote from within. We signed Willy Taveras, knowing he was a legue leader in stolen bases some time in the past decade, with about 68 steals one year. Sure, his bat is a little dull, but he’s a good courtesy runner with very good speed for defense. He’s MADE for center field. We gave Josh Anderson a contract, he played for us a few years ago, and he’s got good speed too.

But if Frank Wren doesn’t promote from within, we might as well embrace trade fever. How about some SPEED. Or maybe a . . . (Leave comment to fill in blank)

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Im new here

1. I belive this goes under Rosterbation
2. From reading Rosterbation many have gone over a trade like this
3. That isn’t enough for Willingham

Jason Heyward…great guy

by KINGSLYTUT on Jul 20, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions

For even mentioning Wily Taveras as a viable option this should be null and void

We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball…

by bpk228480 on Jul 20, 2010 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

A. This is rosterbation
B. I’d like us to just sit tight at this point, no reason to make another move

by Quilvio Veras on Jul 20, 2010 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
If you were Frank Wren

I’d hope that you would do some research and realize that your post goes in the rosterbation thread.

thank you.

have a goodnight

by drumzalicious on Jul 20, 2010 7:17 PM PDT reply actions

based on content there is clearly no research involved here

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the “right handed bat”?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Jul 20, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
haha

yea

by Braves24 on Jul 20, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions

So you shouldn’t trade to a rival who is good but trading prospects who could be good in the future to a team that could be good in the future is ok?

So we should go get Willingham with three sort of non prospects but prospects are all the material we really have?

If we cannot pull off said steal of Willingham we should instead promote Tavaras because he has had speed sometime in the past so therefore is currenty a good player. So are you saying we should sign Yogi Bera or Usain Bolt too?

Not quite following the (logic) or maybe . . . (Leave comment to fill in blank).

Jason Heyward wins at baseball.

by bbxxj on Jul 20, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions
I’m glad you’re not Frank Wren.

“Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward.”
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
Phillies Baseball: Established – 2008

by mvhsbball on Jul 20, 2010 8:31 PM PDT reply actions
+1

by Braves24 on Jul 20, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions

the talk around baseball is that no one has relievers. we do, and we dont need 3 lefties (dunn, o flaherty, venters). venters is too good, but i dont know about dunn. good, but expendable if we can get some worth out him

I wish the Rangers would fall out of the mix, because according to Yahoo! Rumors, because of their economic situation, it looks as though they intend to let Hamilton walk after the season and become a FA. A trade now would be MUCH cheaper than trying to acquire him next season as a FA. I’m sure the usual suspects will outbid us.

Whatever you think, Josh Willingham is an easy pickup, and the Nationals will NEVER get a chance of winning the wild card or the division, even with Adam Dunn, Ryan Zimmerman, and Josh Willingham in their lineup so we may as well take them and put them to good use. Also, Taveras and Anderson have good speed so yes we should promote them. We promoted Brandon Hicks just because he has good speed. He has 0 hits in 5 at bats.

Mets are looking to trade Jeff Franceour, now that Beltran is healthy.

FTF = DFA