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What Might Martin Prado Get Next Year in Arbitration?
by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 7:42 PM EDT
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A concern was raised in another thread about making sure Martin Prado got locked up by the Braves. I think we'd all hope he can get signed to an extension (and that's certainly the Braves' way of doing things when it comes to their core players), but we do fortunately have his rights in arbitration for the next three years in case one can't be worked out. But for now, we're going into his first year of arbitration, and after the season he's had as an everyday starter for the first time, it will be interesting to see how much he gets paid. Below the jump, we'll take a look at what some other notable middle infielders got paid in their first year of arbitration.
The player's year of arbitration is noted, and players are listed within each category in order of their total possible contract payment
Signed to extension before arbitration numbers were exchanged:
- Mark Ellis (06)-signed extension to 2/$6 mil+club option@$5 mil w/$250K buyout
- Chone Figgins (06-Super Two)-signed to extension for 3/$10.5 mil
- Alex Gonzalez (04, former Marlins/current Blue Jays one)-signed extension for 2/$6.2 mil
- Julio Lugo (03)-signed to $1.575 mil w/$1.75 mil club option
Signed to extension after arbitration numbers were exchanged:
- Robinson Cano (08)-signed extension for 4/$30 mil+two club options@$14, then $15 mil w/$2 mil buyouts ($4.55 vs. $3.2 mil were arbitration submissions)
- Brandon Phillips (08)-signed extension for 4/$27 mil+club option@$12 mil w/$1 mil buyout, $1 mil signing bonus, and $5 mil in incentives ($4.2 vs. $2.7 were arbitration submissions)
- Bill Hall (07)-signed extension for 4/$24 mil+club option@$9.25 mil w/$500K buyout, $500K signing bonus ($4.125 vs. $3 mil were arbitration submissions)
- Edgar Renteria (00)-signed extension for 4/$20 mil+2 club options@$6.5 mil w/$750K buyout, $2.3 mil in incentives ($3.8 mil vs. $2.7 mil were arbitration submissions)
- Nick Punto (07)-signed extension for 2/$4.2 mil ($2.1 mil vs. $1.6 mil were arbitration submissions)
Signed one-year deal before arbitration numbers were exchanged:
- Alfonso Soriano (04)-signed to $5.4 mil
- Jimmy Rollins (05)-signed to 3.85 mil w/$175K in incentives
- Stephen Drew (10)-signed to $3.4 mil
- Ty Wigginton (07)-signed for $2.7 mil
- Rafael Furcal (03)-signed for $2.3 mil
- Orlando Hudson (06)-signed for $2.3mil
- Luis Castillo (01)-signed for $2.2 mil
- Jason Bartlett (09)-signed to $1.981 mil w/$275K in incentives
- Jose Bautista (08)-signed to $1.8 mil w/$100K in incentives
- Howie Kendrick (10)-signed to $1.75 mil
- Ronnie Belliard (02)-signed to $1.65 mil
- Clint Barmes (09)-signed to $1.625 mil
Signed to one-year deal after arbitration figures were exchanged, but before arbitration:
- Brian Roberts (06)-signed to $3.075 million after offering $3.6 mil to Orioles' $2.4 mil
- Kelly Johnson (09)-signed to $2.825 mil w/$75K in incentives after offering $3.3 mil vs. Braves' $2.35 mil
- J.J. Hardy (08)-signed to $2.65 mil after offering $3.05 mil to Rays' $2.4 mil
- Rickie Weeks (09)-signed to $2.45 mil after offering $2.8 mil to Brewers' $2 mil
- Erick Aybar (10)-signed to $2.05 mil after offering $2.75 mil to Angels' $1.8 mil
- Maicer Izturis (09)-signed to $1.6 mil w/100K in incentives after offering $1.885 to Angels' $1.4 mil
- Jerry Hairston Jr. (03-Super Two)-signed for $1.55 mil after offering $1.8 mil to Orioles' $1.15 mil
- Carlos Guillen (02)-signed for $1.4 million after offering $1.875 to Tigers' $1.2 mil
Signed to one-year deal after arbitration hearing:
Dan Uggla (09)-won arbitration@5.35 mil after Marlins offered $4.4 mil
Derek Jeter (99)-won arbitration for $5 mil after Yankees offered $3.2 mil
Ryan Theriot (10)-lost arbitration for $2.6 mil after offering $3.4 mil
Orlando Cabrera (02)-lost arbitration for $2.4 mil after offering $3.1 mil
David Eckstein (04)-won arbitration for $2.15 mil after Angels offered $1.6 mil
Jack Wilson (04)-won arbitration for $1.85 mil after Pirates offered $1.4 mil
As for the other guys you're probably thinking of (Hanley Ramirez, Ian Kinsler, Michael Young, Jose Reyes, Jhonny Peralta, Troy Tulowitzki) never made it to arbitration before signing extensions.
So, where do we think Prado will end up? Very few of the guys who signed extensions did so on a short-term or cheap basis, and most of the guys who exchanged figures either got closer to their mark or won the hearing, so it won't be smart to try and low-ball Martin, first year of arbitration eligibility or not.
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Ceiling?
What realistically do we think the ceiling for Martin is? He’s not going to be a consistent .330 hitter (who is?). Is he going to develop more power? Is he going to peak out at .290?
I’m hoping he becomes that prototype two hitter: .290 with a high OBP and a 17-20 homer average.
actually
i believe you’re wrong. I believe he will stay a .3xx hitter and always be around 15-20 HR. If he develops more power he will be hitting more in the 25-30 range since he already can get to your suggested range now
by drumzalicious on Jul 12, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Those
are some pretty impressive numbers for a second baseman.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
A half season's worth of that kind of power does not make it definitive.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
im pretty sure
Prado will get 5 more Home Runs this year. He’s not lacking in the power dept as much as some think.
by drumzalicious on Jul 13, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he can be a career .300 hitter. Not sure what you consider high OBP, but his walk rates this season aren’t particularly good.
I wonder if he is our future 3B? I think he could add a little size if he made a permanent move to third
They never really have been.
His OBP is pretty much all tied up in his BA. As for the 3B thing, I think he might just end up there, but I’d also say it’s harder to find a premium 2B who can field the position adequately than 3B, so maybe it won’t come to that.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Prado has become a consistant .300+ hitter
’07 AAA .316
’08 MLB .320
’09 MLB .307
’10 MLB .325
He’s going to get a raise. He’s versatile in the field 2b, 3b, rf, solid at the plate and deserving of a comparable salary to several of the players listed above. I see him staying at 2nd base. Escobar, Infante, even Conrad might be given a shot at 3rd if Chipper retires, or Wren could sign a free agent or make a trade. Just a guess, but I’d think Prado will make $2.5-$3.5M next year. But just a wild guess.
Heyward is pretty good
This is the first time he's done it on an everyday basis.
And that will hurt him in the arbitration process. I think Stephen Drew is probably the closest comparison, stats-wise, but Prado hasn’t produced the counting stats Drew has, and probably is, at best, an equal fielder. As such (and a continued gigantic season from Prado could change this), I think he’ll probably get less than Drew, in the neighborhood of about $3 mil. If they were going long term, I’d like to see something along the lines of 2/$8-10 mil with a club option at $6 mil or so.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No
if you look at the stats above, you might find that he’s been doing it on a daily basis for four straight years, or if you prefer, four out of a possible five years in professional baseball (as he started in 2006). 80% of the time, he has a .300+ batting average to end the season, and he’s done it all three years at the Major League level. That’s not going to hurt him in the arbitration process. The fact that you win a batting title doesn’t hurt you in the arbitration process either; I’m pretty sure it helps you make your case that you are a good player.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Batting average is over valued by arbitration pannels.
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Well yeah
but if you are going to use it to support your point, then at least be freakin’ right about what you say.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad Peter
I thought your post said that BA is not a true indicator of actual hitting performance. I kinda went straight to that when I saw your name and Batting Average in the same sentence! (I think that’s a good thing.)
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So if he had played in one game each of the last five years and gone 2-4, that's "everyday?"
Everyday means you are a regular starter for your team. This is the first time that has been true for more than a month or so.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not true
He started at Triple-AAA in 2007, was on the bench ONLY in 2008, played enough to qualify for both the batting title last year and probably will this year. That sounds like an everyday basis to me.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Prado's on pace to start 161 games.
When exactly has he come even close to that?
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 13, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
first you say that he has not shown the capability to hit .300+ in the past. That is wrong. Next you imply that during the periods that he hit .300+, he didn’t get enough plate appearances. That is wrong too. Now you talk about games. He’s had enough plate appearances to show what he can do at the Major League level; that is, hit, and hit well. Who cares how many games he’s started, if he has the plate appearances and stats to back it up? Nobody.
BTW, it seems that the more he plays, the better he plays. So even in that respect, I don’t get your point.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong.
This is the first time he’s done it on an everyday basis.
That’s what I said, everyday meaning as a regular starter for the Braves in the majors. You were the one trying to argue that simply having good slash numbers at the end of the year was enough to prove somebody as a good hitter, regardless of whether they were having their starts picked and chosen to make them successful. The games matter because he’s never played the extent of a full major-league season as an everyday player, or anything close to it. Success over 100 games (or less) in a season in the minors doesn’t even come close.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 13, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's take this step by step
What does it mean to be an everyday player?
It means playing in enough games and receiving enough at-bats so that your stats at the end of the season have meaning, and are no just a function of SSS. So: Martin Prado, games played in, by year:
2006: 127
2007: 130
2008: 83 (Bench Year)
2009: 128
He’s played enough games.
Players are picked and chosen for their starts, and therefore stats deviate from actual performance levels:
Yes, platoon players are picked and chosen for their starts. Prado has played in more games than a straight platoon player would play, regardless if it was against lefties or righties. Take these numbers:
Prado’s tOPS+ (measure of deviation from actual OPS) against righties is 98, and is 103 against Lefties. He’s had 811 PA’s vs. RHP and 466 PA’s vs. LHP. He does not have a very noticeable platoon split, and therefore he cannot possibly have experienced that much help to his stats from cherry-picking his stats.
The games matter because he’s never played the extent of a full-major league season as an everyday player:
Yes. Yes he has. I don’t know how I can possibly prove this fact to be more true.
Success over 100 games (or less) in a season in the minors doesn’t even come close.
Well then it’s good that he’s always played in more games than that in every season when he was in the minors, correct?
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He does not have a very noticeable platoon split, and therefore he cannot possibly have experienced that much help to his stats from cherry-picking his STARTS.
My bad.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure every day player means starting every day, it doesn’t really need to go any deeper than that. Prado was a backup and even though he may have gotten a good amount of at bats at a bunch of positions for a long stretch of time, he was still the backup until midway through 2009.
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by BenDuronio on Jul 13, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah,
because in 2008 he rode the bench. How about 2006 and 2007? Was he an everyday player there?
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting regular at bats at a minor league level is not the equivalent of being an every day player at the major league level. It’s a decent projector but far from a guarantee. The fact that he only started getting regular major league at bats in the middle of 2009 will hurt his pocket in arbitration.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
by BenDuronio on Jul 13, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 14, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyday basis, OK, I can go with that. But 3 of the 4 years I listed had over 400 PA’s
’07 .316 AAA 439 PA
’08 .320 ML 254 PA
’09 .307 ML 503 PA
’10 .325 ML 409 PA
You’ve got him roughly at 3 years $15M, I think we could get him for a lot less, maybe 3 yrs/$10-12M
Heyward is pretty good
No
He’s hit .300 for four of the five years he’s been in professional baseball. That is as close to an ‘everyday basis’ as you can get.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed,
but he had more than 500 plate appearances (across all levels) in ’07, ’09, and probably ’10. That is pretty much everyday, right?
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not ‘07 to my knowledge, but I might have missed something on fangraphs. But yeah, he’s been “everyday” for a while, better than a year straight anyway. Plus AAA. Like you said, ’08 was bench time
Heyward is pretty good
Thanks.
In 2007, he had 439 AB’s at Triple-A and 62 with the big club. I was adding the two; I should have made that clearer.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It's
close enough, right?
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Most people are
But usage of a flawed statistic is still widely accepted. Making incorrect arguments about that statistic is dumb.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Making arguments about it at all seem to be a waste of time. Focusing on OBP would be wiser in this sense.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio
The actual argument
here is whether Martin Prado has played enough games and has enough plate appearances for the noise to recede out of his statistics and give us a good idea of what kind of hitter he is. I don’t think that our discussion actually values BA.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously dude – calm the fuck down.
by yondaime4 on Jul 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
you know, I just like to pick random and useless internet fights.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
When does Prado become a free agent?
No matter when he becomes a FA, he deserves an extension.
The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.
End of the '13 season.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think
it would be wise to extend him. I’m just as much in love with his production this year as everyone else however this is his first year. With that said the smarter thing to do would be to give him a decent arb salary and if he does this again next year then look at signing him to an extension through his arb years. If he does it all through that time then extend him again before his last season under contract so we dont have to worry about in season negotiations.
id rather take the calculated risk of locking him up at least through the arb years…I kinda feel the same way about Prado. I’m a little skeptical, but every day he continues to rake I creep closer and closer to a true beleiver…he is truly been a joy to watch this year and he looks like he can sustain that BABiP (or atleast an above avg BABiP)
If we nickle and dime him now we’ll get him for 3M this year and 7 the year after and he will not longer want to sign an extension with only one year left until FA …send some good will give him the gaunteed money now see if he will go for a 2 year @ 10M with an option forr third years at 7M
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
This.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 13, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ummm....
I think that the concern raised in the other thread was about the ability to sign Martin Prado long-term. I’m pretty sure we all know how arbitration works here, and that the Braves currently maintain his rights for the next three years. However, after that, the ability to sign him to play long-term is actually a legitimate concern.
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I'm thinking it's way too far off for us to be worrying about losing him already.
Particularly given that we haven’t seen how he’ll respond to the second half of a playoff race as an everyday player (and literally, an every day player who’s had, what, three days off the whole year?) for the longest time in his career.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
True,
the worries are probably a little off-base here. A lot could happen in the next three years. But still, if you sign big-money Free Agents like Crawford, you lose the ability to spend that money to extend your homegrown players. In three years, there is going to be a lot of talent (Kimbrel, Hanson, Medlen, Heyward, Prado, Escboar, JJ, EOF, among others) whom we are going to want to extend. A deal to overpay Crawford seriously hampers our capabilities.
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by frozendesert on Jul 12, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think anyone realistically thinks we are signing Crawford, despite some of the talk…he is gonna get paid a bit too much this season and the braves wont pay (i doubt we’ll even be on his radar).
this is assuming we dont find a way to deal Lowe
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Definitely
this was carry-over discussion from a previous thread. We were talking about our potential to sign our homegrown players if we actually did sign Crawford.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think
what it comes down to is this: If in arbitration he decides that he wants to make a lot of money, he can and will. If he wins that batting title, he could legitimately ask for 6-7 million, and probably get it.
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No chance.
Do you see the numbers above? That would be a 20%+ raise over any MI has gotten in his first year of arbitration. Ever.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 13, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Bullcrap
Ryan Howard went from 900K to 10 million in his first year of arbitration from 2007-2008.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/philadelphia-phillies_18.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Howard
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I take that back.
Didn’t see the MI label.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Still though,
did anyone of your MI win a batting title before heading to Arbitration?
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
No, but some were far better as run-producers and power guys.
You really aren’t going to argue that Prado’s first four years have been better than Sorano’s and Jeter’s, are you?
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 13, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Derek
Jeter signed that contract more than TEN years ago. If he was hitting Arbitration for the first time in today’s market, that number would easily be doubled.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If he continues
to play like he is playing currently, he’ll be lucky to top two million. If he returns to form, given his display of stellar abilities in previous seasons, he could conceivably top 3.8, I think.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd say he'll be close to the same as Prado.
Arbitration pays based on a player’s career numbers, not just the prior year.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 13, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i think
Escobar will be traded and we wont have to worry about it.
by drumzalicious on Jul 13, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
it's funny
here we are listening to offers for yunel, but when jeff schultz recently asked wren about yunel’s struggles, he had this to say:
"He’s a high-spirited guy. Just watching him, he’s one of the best shortstops in the game. We know what we have in him. Players go through struggles. In the second half last year, he almost carried us."
"Sometimes I think it is a great mistake to have matter that can think and feel. It complains so. By the same token, though, I suppose that boulders and mountains and moons could be accused of being a little too phlegmatic."
-Kurt Vonnegut, "The Sirens of Titan"
by Bravely going forward on Jul 13, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Frank Wren is no idiot.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 13, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He traded Javy Vazquez, our best pitcher from 2009, for Melky Cabrera and 2 nobody prospects. HE’S A YANKEES FAN DAMNIT!
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
Phillies Baseball: Established - 2008
by Scott Coleman on Jul 13, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
truth
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 13, 2010 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t call either of the prospects we got nothing.
Given our strengths and weaknesses, it wasn’t as horrible a trade as it looks on paper.
How many more wins would 2010 Vasquez have added, and no Melky this year would have meant a REALLY putrid OF once J-Hey and Diaz got hurt.
Hinske/Blanco/Infante out there would have been horrible, and that means Hicks get regular tiime at SS when Escobar was hurt also.
I think
that was sarcasm on the part of MVHS.
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by frozendesert on Jul 13, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Prado is one of the hardest working players in baseball. He sets a good example for everyone else and he is a good leader. Not only does he do the little things well, he can also HIT. Prado is the kind of player you keep around for a long time. I’d offer him an extension, 5 years, $25 million.
I’m always amazed at how much people know about the inner workings of the locker rooms across MLB…how do we know Prado is a great leader, or the hardest worker in baseball…I think he works very hard, but I’m sure other gusy work too.
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by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Jul 13, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just because Prado is doing well he must be working hard and leading the locker room. Just like andruw was a bum and lazy when he was slumping in Atlanta even though word was he was always at the park early taking batting practice and trying to learn to take pitches the other way. Those were just lies, he was slumping because he was lazy.
I never claimed he was slumping because he was lazy.
I claimed he was fat because he was lazy.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 14, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I have been wondering this exact same thing.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 14, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Grittitude is just apparent to those with the Gift.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 14, 2010 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Grittitude. I like it.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 14, 2010 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions
We also have to consider
The possibility that the managers are going to vote for Prado to win the Gold Glove. Because he has hit so well and been so important to this offense, it will be assumed that his defense is top notch, therefore managers are going to vote for him. If that somehow boosts his argument in arbitration, it will cost the Braves some money.
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The whole Derek Jeter thing again…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 14, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
That is true.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
/fucking David Wright.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
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