MLB Draft Open Thread: Day 2
by gondeee on Jun 8, 2010 11:01 AM EDT
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PrintThe Braves have the third pick in the second round today, as well as the 20th pick in the second round and every subsequent round. There is still a lot of first-round talent out there that Atlanta could pick up with one of their two early picks today. Draft starts at noon
Picks will be flying off the board super-fast all day, so chat about it if you'd like in the comments... not much else going on today. I'll have reviews of all the picks posted throughout the day and into the night.
We'll try another twitter widget that's set to pull all the "mlbdraft" results.
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Yay, twitter feed has CyborgHanson! And…Joe West? /sarcastic enthusiasm
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can you tell me some of them? /puppy dog face
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
these were especially topical at the time, but the joke’s kinda worn out now:
Bad call at 1st kills perfect game. It’s always good when umps have an effect on the outcome. Good man Jim Joyce!
Bud Selig- If you overturn Jim Joyce call, I’m gonna start doing some really crazy shit in games. U ain’t seen nothin yet
If I was calling Galarraga’s perfect game bid, I’d change the strike zone to force walks. Too many perfect games. Disgrace
Ken Griffey Jr to announce his retirement. I regret I never got to throw him out of a game.
Signable?...
Fangraphs had a nice rundown of leftovers, including a couple that fits the Braves profile—IF and/or local.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2010-mlb-draft-not-selected-day-1/
He’s going to want a decent bonus for sure, but it looks like he has some potential at 3B. It’s hard to know if Wren would throw a few extra dollars on the table for first round talent.
by ducheneaux13 on Jun 8, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this braves.com article on Lipka
He seems like a good kid and extremely excited to be on the Braves. Said he’ll sign “long before” the deadline. I’m glad the Braves continue to value character in their draftees.
Here’s the link.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
nice
Before his father was relocated to Dallas, Lipka actually spent the first eight years of his life in suburban Atlanta. Born in Snellville, he began playing youth baseball in the Cumming/Alpharetta area around the time the Braves notched the last of the five National League pennants that they won during the 1990s.
Though the Rangers became his favorite team over the course of the past decade, Lipka said that he has always remained fond of the Braves’ organization that many of his Atlanta-area relatives still call their hometown team.
See the fanshot scouting report pac...
I also linked two good Q&As in there. Read them, and you’ll like him even more.
I think 70, maybe 72 or 73, but around there...
I doubt we were taking a college lefty though, so it looks like we should get a nice piece at 53.
ha, I was just about to ask when we were up
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Summary: With a good approach and great balance at the plate, Cunningham stood out early as one of the more advanced college hitters in the Draft class. He should hit for average and with some power down the road. His plus speed will allow him to steal bases and defend well in the outfield. While he’d be OK in center, he could be a plus defender in left, with the only real question being if he’ll have enough pop to profile as a corner guy. Even with that one small concern, Cunningham is setting himself up to possibly be one of the earlier college bats taken in June.
Mlb.com
espn
Cunningham hits for average everywhere he plays but doesn’t have a plus tool or profile well at positions he’s likely to play. He has a short, handsy swing that gives up power for contact and doesn’t get his lower half involved.
He plays center now but probably has to move to an outfield corner, which makes him more likely to be a fourth outfielder in pro ball because he won’t get on base enough or have the power to profile every day in left.
slugz like Ryan Howard
"Hey Honey, could you fist the salt over here?"
by GeneParmesan on Jun 8, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Howard has a hot GF, way too hot for that weird looking guy.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
nobody is too hot for this guy:
"Hey Honey, could you fist the salt over here?"
by GeneParmesan on Jun 8, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft-novice question: was the speculation about Derek Dietrich here the other day overblown? He’s still on the board, but we don’t seem all that interested. What are the scouting reports saying about thus guy? Is there some flaw we were overlooking?
by J-Freak on Jun 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
from BA's Jim Callis:
We rate Cunningham as the 87th-best player in the draft, which would make him an early third-rounder. But he was so good in the Cape Cod League, where scouts voted him the best prospect, and it’s such a thin year for college position prospects, that he’ll go at least a round earlier than that. It’s possible there might be a club that likes him at the end of the first round, but that’s a stretch after he hit .352/.464/.590 with 21 steals this spring.
Even during his big summer on the Cape, where he led the Cape in hitting (.378, better than he ever has hit with metal bats at Jacksonville State) and on-base percentage (.458), Cunningham created some split opinion. Everyone agreed that the 6-foot-1, 205-pound switch-hitter was gifted at squaring up balls from both sides of the plate and getting on base. Scouts who liked him projected him as a center fielder with gap power and good speed, while others said he lacked a second standout tool and profiled more as a tweener than as a big league regular.
Cunningham has played mostly left field at Jacksonville State but doesn’t have the power to profile as an everyday player at that position. Whoever drafts him will give him every chance to make it in center field, and if that doesn’t work out, he has the quickness and enough arm strength to try second base.
We rate Cunningham as the 87th-best player in the draft, which would make him an early third-rounder.
By that math they must not factor in the sandwich picks, right?
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, I assumed there would be sandwich picks after the 2nd round as well. Fail.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So he is a 3B?...
http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-sports/2010/06/atlanta_braves_pick_jacksonvil.html
played outfield and shortstop this season for coach Jim Case’s Gamecocks, but the Braves project him as a third baseman
Possible stop gap if Chipper retires?
it means we’re getting rid of JJ. We always have to have one Curacao native in the system
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Summary :
Born in Curacao, Simmons has received some second- to third-round buzz this spring both as a shortstop and a pitcher. On the mound he’s 95-98 and has a short slider, but he’s more arm strength than pitcher, while in the field he’s a plus defender with excellent hands and a tremendous arm, but has little track record of hitting and has very questionable pitch recognition. He’s already 20 and is expected to sign right after the draft.
ESPN.com
Andrelton Simmons:
5-29 from: – link – Not much change with the shortstops, though the sole addition comes in the form of helium specimen Andrelton Simmons, Freshman, Western Oklahoma St. College. Simmons was unranked to start the season, jumping to #197 in the Midseason Top 300 after his electric arm started garnering big time attention through the first couple months of the season. He has maintained his momentum, potentially ascending to the Top 3 Round range on many ML draft boards. There are some questions as to how his bat will play, but no questions whatsoever as to the athletic actions and plus arm. The arm is special enough, in fact, that he may be snatched-up as a pitcher, having shown mid-90s velocity over the course of several relief stints (season line of 10 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 6 BB, 17 SO, per NJCAA’s official website).
http://macksmets.blogspot.com/2010/05/draft-andrelton-simmons-bryan-holaday.html
heh heh...
“blurb”
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
no one knows
unless you have one of the best scouting and player development systems in baseball, which the braves do. I’ll tend to trust their judgement.
Hello people!
I know absolutely nothing about the MLB draft. Please ignore my stupidness.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
via jim callis tweet
Andrelton Simmons looks like the best, and some clubs like him more as P @Kevin_Goldstein: #mlbdraft there are no really good defensive SS.
We can always “Van Pope” him if the bat doesn’t come around
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
lol
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
or “Lance Niekro” him
"Hey Honey, could you fist the salt over here?"
by GeneParmesan on Jun 8, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
somebody’s gotta win the BA best glove in the system every year
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Of those 3, Timmons.
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Kreke impressed the hell out of me in Augusta...
and Hicks reportedly has the great glove. But either way, do we really care who wins BA’s best glove in the system title?
No more than we care about anything else. Yeah, I care. It’s good to know who’s the best at defense. That seems like an odd statement coming from you.
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It's nice...
but it’s not like that’s a huge deal when the winner could easily be an all glove, no hit middle IF that hits like Raffy Belliard, except in AA. That’s what I’m meaning.
And the overall point was we’ve got our share of some pretty good gloves in the system, so who actually gets that distinction, considering it could very well be a guy who isn’t even considered a top 50 prospect within the system, means it’s not exactly something to worry about.
Still, guys like Raffy Belliard have value. The guy had a 15 year career in the Majors and was the starting shortstop on several World Series teams, including the 95 team that won.
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OK, make it Timmons then...
good player, but not exactly a prospect. And I said “hits like Raffy…in AA”, and assume Belliard was at least a decent hitter on that level. A guy like Zazueta (sp?) is who I’m thinking, the free agent pickup that clearly was filler, but had a good glove.
In 711 AA at bats Belliard hit .280 with a .618 OPS, which was much better than the .234 with a .536 OPS he hit in 384 plate appearances. Though I guess both were better than the .221 average and .530 OPS he put up as a Major Leaguer. Still, 17 seasons and a WS ring ain’t too shabby.
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Its not something set in stone
But the team is the one that tells MLB what position they’re drafting him at.
usually teams announce what position they want the player to play
this is probably the right choice. apparently simmons’ bat isn’t that great, but can touch mid-high 90s with his fastball. good glove though
is that a good thing
or a bad thing?
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by Jacob Peterson on Jun 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm guessing good
ie “huge shit” = “great stuff”
from SI:
No one in this draft has taken the same path or has the same tools as Andrelton Simmons. The quick version: He’s a shortstop and pitcher at Western Oklahoma State, whose fastball has reached 98 mph in short relief stints and who also might be the best defensive shortstop available. A native of Curacao who had small offers to sign as an international free agent at age 16, he wound up coming to junior college instead. He’s already 20 and was expected to go off the board quickly despite a somewhat long swing and average speed.
Hopefully he can learn to harness his huge shit. I don’t want us getting shit all over our minor league system.
Wait, you can see me? I had better put on some pants, then.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
/hat tip
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. I love that scout.
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The guy over on MLB Bonus Baby quoted this from somewhere:
On the mound he shows just as much promise, throwing a plus fastball in the 93-95 range, touching 96, though that was completely out of the bullpen. He also throws a solid-average slider, an average curveball, and a fringe-average changeup, but none of those pitches is close to being ready for the Major Leagues anytime soon.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees draft 2 shortstops with first two picks? Why bother, they will just buy tulowitzki when jeter retires. Its the yankee way.
lol I love this twitter feed
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
TEAMMATE JONES LARRY AKA “CHIPPER” SHOULD CONSIDER REPLACEMENT OF HUMAN FINGERS WITH METALLIC PROSTHESIS TO MAXIMIZE ATBATS
ahhh I love CyborgHanson
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Is he a poster here? I didn’t know it was a real guy.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
strange....
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
We won’t draft him, because he won’t sign. Why? He’s going to Stanford, and could possibly be a first rounder next year.
by bwellnjonesco on Jun 8, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds nice
like a projectable bat. 6’5, so perhaps ends up at 1st if 3B doesn’t work out.
There’s still Zach Alvord and AJ Cole out there.
from BA
104. Joe Leonard, 3b
Pittsburgh
Leonard’s father, John, was a first-round pick of the Orioles in 1982, and Joe stepped into Pitt’s starting lineup as a freshman. After two solid seasons, Leonard exploded as a junior this spring, hitting .452/.507/.719 with eight homers and 60 RBIs though 199 at-bats. The 6-foot-5, 220-pound Leonard has below-average game power currently, but he has shown good pop with wood bats in batting practice and projects for average power if he can add loft to his flat swing. His swing is long, making him vulnerable against good fastballs on the inner half, but he has good bat speed and feel for hitting, so he barrels up balls consistently. He projects as an average hitter. Leonard also reaches 92-93 mph off the mound as Pitt’s closer, and his arm is above-average at third base. He is not a finished product defensively but has good feet and solid instincts, and he projects as a solid-average defender. He is a below-average runner but not a clogger. Leonard projects as a second- to third-round pick.
according to espn, 3 hours, 55 minutes until strasburgs debut.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Thank god I will be nowhere near the metro tonight. That place is going to be a madhouse.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine
the concession stands at Nats Park? They’re used to 15K, it’ll take 2 innings to get a beer and a half smoke…
Oh man, I didn’t even think about that. There’s no way they’ll be prepared.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost bought
one of the individual suite tickets they were selling for $95 but then i pictured the platform at L’Enfant Plaza pre and post-game and had second, more rational, thoughts.
Plus, the Metro has been sucking lately, coinciding perfectly with the fare hikes. I’ve been on trains that have had to be offloaded 6 times in the last three weeks.
from baseballdraftreport.com
Top 30 College Third Base Prospects – 4. Pittsburgh JR 3B Joe Leonard – Leonard has gotten a ton of positive press over the past few weeks, all of it well earned. He came into the season as one of the best college hitting prospects and one of the few collegiate position players projected to be productive enough both at the plate and in the field to start every day in the big leagues. The one question that scouts had about his game was his power upside. Leonard has answered the bell by hitting for over 30 extra base hits and slugging well over .600. He’s a good athlete with a plus arm and great big league size for a third baseman. Defensively he’s presently skilled enough to be considered big league average at the position, and continued development ought to get him up above-average during his best defensive seasons. Neither his offense nor his defense will ever quite approach the level of peak years Scott Rolen (a really underrated player by many, I think), but if you squint really hard you can begin to see Leonard as perhaps developing into that type of player – exciting defenders, strong physiques, and often mischaracterized as power hitters first and foremost. In fact, after looking at the numbers some, I’d compare Leonard’s upside as a hitter to something around what Rolen did his rookie season (.283/.377/.469) with the Phillies.
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There’s also hope for continued development in the power department, as he’s still a tall, skinny hitter at the plate, though he’s matured over the last 12 months in his frame. He’s worked hard on his plate discipline, and while he won’t walk anything more than the league average in the pros, he’s not going to swing at everything like he has sometimes in the past. The doubles he hits now will turn into some homers in the future, and while his ceiling looks like a 15-20 home run slugger in his prime, his defense and hit tools are good enough to make him a league average third baseman in the big leagues.
I am liking this kid
the best of all our picks so far.
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by Jacob Peterson on Jun 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
same.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Per MLB.com
He has excellent defensive skills at third, and has shown the ability to hit for plenty of average. He hasn’t hit for a ton of power in college, but some feel he will develop more as he matures
Depending on what they do with Simmons, that’s 4/4 on positions players. When was the last time the Braves didn’t take a pitcher in the first three rounds? It’s nice to have the pitching depth to be able to focus on the organizational needs.
pretty sure braves will push simmons to go the pitching route
he’s a great defensive SS, but not a good bat, supposedly
Cole was the first pick of the 4th round to Washington.
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thanks cb...
I like the sound of Alvord, although I assume all 4 I mentioned are “signable” questions.
Yeah, I’m really liking the reports although comments on his power seem to vary.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Leonard = Troy Glaus clone!
Indeed, when your physical makeup resembles that of current Atlanta first baseman Troy Glaus, you will get noticed. Especially if you show the potential to hit like Glaus has, too.
Leonard has long levers, and his swing can get a little long as he extends his arms but he has plus power and a strong arm that offers plus velo around 90-92 on the occasions that Leonard takes the mound. As he continues to grow, there is the chance his lateral movement will decrease, perhaps necessitating a move to first. But for right now, Leonard is very much active around the third base bag.
Leonardosaur?
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by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
According to a new (re)tweet from Gondee:
Jason Heyward jumped into second place in All-Star voting, garnering most votes after the third talley for a rookie.
even glaus moved into the top 5
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
chipper 3rd
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
yeah by a million votes though…he’s till going to have to be picked by Manual
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
nats seem more willing to shell out the dollars in the draft lately. god knows that strasburg and harper won’t be cheap
use profits from tickets sold for strasburg debut to sign harper
then, use profits from tickets sold for harper debut to sign next #1 pick
rinse & repeat. BRILLIANT!
Yadier Molina with 762,875 votes, BMac with 676,400.
Braun ahead of Heyward with 1,017,266. Heyward has 1,008,451.
Vote and I’ll give you free cookies.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
I already maxed out all of my email addresses
do I get the cookies anyway?
oh, fine! /cookies
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
from BA
73. David Filak, rhp
Oneonta State (N.Y.)
Filak has a fresh, explosive arm; he did not pitch in high school and walked on at Oneonta State as a catcher. He was quickly converted to the mound, where he led all Division III pitchers in strikeouts per nine innings (14.86) and fewest hits allowed per nine innings (5.07) as a sophomore last year. Scouts were buzzing about Filak after he ran his fastball up to 95 mph and flashed a plus-plus 83 mph spike curveball in his 2010 debut in Vero Beach, but he exited his third start of the season after just two innings because of elbow stiffness, which caused him to miss his next outing. He did not show quite as much velocity after returning to action, but he still posted a dominant season, going 8-0, 1.82 with 96 strikeouts and 16 walks through 59 innings. Filak’s fastball settled in at 90-93 mph, and he still regularly flashed a plus curveball with 12-to-6 break in the 77-80 range. Filak did not learn to throw a changeup until last fall, and the pitch is a work in progress. Filak has a physical, athletic 6-foot-5, 220-pound frame, and he could still add velocity as he learns to make better use of his lower half in his delivery.
Scouting Report: Filak has a big, loose body and has made strides in refining his long, Iron Mike-like, straight-over-the-top arm action and release point. His fastball was consistently 90-92 mph, touching 93, although the pitch is pretty straight. Filak’s downer curveball is a solid second pitch, when he throws it in the strike zone. Hitters obviously have trouble picking up Filak’s pitches as he has struck out 146 hitters in 93 innings in two seasons at Division III SUNY Oneonta. He topped D-III pitchers in most strikeouts (14.86) and fewest hits (5.07) per nine innings in 2009.
STEAL
“SUNY-Oneonta’s David Filak moved up 40 spots from #96 to #56 in Law’s latest rankings. According to Law, Filak’s strong finish to the season had pushed him into the second round and possibly even a sandwich round pick.”
Filak has emerged this spring as one of the top college starting pitching prospects, while dominating Division 3 competition with Division 1 stuff, fanning 96 of the 212 hitters he faced.
He’s got a big fastball, 92-95 most weeks, with a curveball he tends to flip in rather than snapping it, so it has some late depth but isn’t as sharp as a typical big-league breaking ball. His ideal slot is ¾, but he tends to drift downward and gets on the side of the curveball to make it more like a backup slider. I’d like to see him stay over the rubber longer and not elevate his pitching elbow so much behind his shoulder. He missed one start this spring with some minor soreness but returned the following week without any decline in his stuff.
It’s easier for a club to take a Division 3 arm than bat, since the level of competition is less of a concern when you can see the quality of the stuff, and Filak’s velocity measures up with many of the best D1 arms this year.
ESPN.com
it’s not a rickroll, is it?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
College football coaches be warned
The Rockies want your quarterbacks!
I wouldn't mind taking a go at him next round if Smelter is off the board.
Smelter, Wilson, or Hahn.
…Or some guy I’ve never heard of. Any one of those I’m good with.
Zach Alvord sounds like a talent...
and he’s local. Comments by his dad in the AJC make me wonder what it’d take to sign him. Plus there’s another Nevada prep slugger, Kris Bryant, who could be a good fit, as well as Smelter.
Just watched his mlb.com blurb
Looks pretty solid, and I’d jump at taking him. Swing looks a little long, though, as much as you can tell from a 30 second clip with 3 swings in it. Thanks for the heads up.
More on him...
http://yankees.scout.com/2/945320.html (makes him sound pretty strong to Auburn)
http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/02/19/draft-notebook-excerpt-zach-alvord/
And here on the signability thing…
http://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school/georgia-high-schoolers-take-543049.html
his father, John Alvord, said. “We’re more concerned about a fair offer rather than which round Zach gets drafted.”
That article also mentions a home schooled, atlanta area P named Connor Mason who is still on the board.
Oh, LA
No matter how much you say that the pick wasn’t a weasel way out of having to pay a 1st rounder, we all know differently.
No more than he would have been elsewhere...
I assume their desired bonus hasn’t changed whether it was pick 12 or 312.
Sooo…..when’s our next pick?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Would have been better if it was Jabroni
then I could make loads of The Rock refrences.
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 8, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor kid...
That’s a very…strange name.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Its pretty cool to see GA represented so well in this draft...
But other teams need to GTFO our turf.
The whaaat?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
“However, Gosselin is perhaps best known for a first-inning, first-pitch fastball last May that started in the right hand of Washington Nationals pitcher Stephen Strasburg, then a junior at San Diego State, and ended up bouncing off a plastic scoreboard in left field that read “Anteater Ballpark” in Irvine, Calif. "
Strasburg got the loss, but still struck out 15 in 7 innings that day – http://www.virginiasports.com/fls/17800/stats/baseball/2009/va0529.htm
by KLB on Jun 8, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
According to the nationals, he’s the next nolan ryan
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Fine with me
Despite all the strike-outs, Ryan wasn’t that exceptional. He pitched in one of the weakest hitting eras in baseball so his numbers look better now, but consider this:
ERA+
Nolan Ryan: 112
Tom Glavine: 118
John Smoltz: 125
Kevin Brown: 127
Mike Mussina: 123
Jack Morris: 105
Greg Maddux: 132
Pedro Martinez: 154
So he wouldn’t be one of the best pitchers of the current era, i’m thinking.
pedro is severely underrated by the casual fan.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we all white kids so far?
http://www.virginiasports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17800&ATCLID=1370504
Terence Moore is copy and pasting as we speak.
Where is that from? These stats are different – http://www.virginiasports.com/fls/17800/stats/baseball/2010/teamcume.htm
by KLB on Jun 8, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like you copied 2009 stats – http://www.virginiasports.com/fls/17800/stats/baseball/2009/teamcume.htm
by KLB on Jun 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they would post OPS+ data for colleges.
Its hard for me to get a good read on how silly the numbers can get.
Cubs
Their 5th round pick (160) is Matt Szczur. Rumor is he’s going to hold out for above slot money so that he can afford to buy a vowel… /rimshot
Virginia JR 2B Phil Gosselin– Remains an average to slightly below-average infielder (capable of playing third and short in a pinch) with an average arm well suited for second base, who many believe may ultimately wind up in the outfield as a pro. That’s what I’ve heard, anyway. I’m not necessarily buying it; heck, his mere presence on this list indicates I think it would be best to keep Gosselin at second as long as possible professionally. He doesn’t have the glove/range for center, and doesn’t have the bat for a corner. If he isn’t a starting caliber outfielder, why not at least give him a shot in the infield? Coming into the year I thought his future was as a big league super-sub, but his big junior year has me thinking his bat could work at second if the glove cooperates.
meh
We’ll have to see how he hits in the pros, but doesn’t sound too exciting. Of course, we’re getting pretty far along in the draft, so I guess we’re not going to see too many more “exciting” players.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Hanson was drafted in the 22nd. Pujols was drafted in the 13th. Never know when you might find a gem.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
from MLB bonus baby
Phil Gosselin has split time between second and left field for one of the best college teams in the country at Virginia. Thus, scouts are fairly split on whether he profiles better in left or at second, but there is some consensus that it’s at least worth a shot to see if he can handle second at the next level. As you can tell from his stats, he’s had a breakout season of sorts, showing exceptional ability to hit the ball hard to all parts of the ballpark. He is the definition of a doubles hitter with enough power to keep pitchers honest, and he’s going to be productive with the stick as a pro.
Gosselin’s overall tools don’t necessarily stack up well compared to some of his peers. As somewhat of a professional hitter without a true defensive home, he’s flashed an above-average hit tool with fringe-average raw power, and he’s going to make pitchers work. A lot of his strikeouts are a function of how many pitches he takes, and he’s going to be an asset in a major league lineup as a number two hitter. He’s an average runner underway, but an above-average baserunner and he reads pitchers well. Defensively, his range is a little below-average up the middle, but his arm is average and good enough for second. He’s played shortstop before, as well, and if anything, he’s as steady as they come with the glove. He should go somewhere in the range of the fourth to sixth round.
This is why I wish I was a professional athlete.
I believe I’d get arrested for flashing my above-average hit tool.
How old is this kid?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We should hire more professional hitters
Interesting that there are so few in a game where people get paid to hit.
great….
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hilarious tweet
BREAKING MLB NEWS: The Washington Nationals just retired Stephen Strasburg’s number…
LOL
when’s his HOF induction?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are they going to present him his WS MVP trophy, Cy Young award and MVP award then, too?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dang it!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
RUNS RUNS RUNS RUNS RUNS RUNS
Ooops, wrong thread.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
True. Maybe it'll work. On the OT tonight we should start the "runs runs" in the 1st
U
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m punting saves this year
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what is Scot Shields up to these days?
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Bronn just doesn’t get it. One Heyward is not enough
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
duhh
wouldn’t it be great if both Heywards played for the Braves?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jesse Hahn, Virginia Tech.
Injury concerns, but has a big fastball. Future pen, closer type, I think I heard.
Also, Zach Alvord, GA HS 2B. Has pretty good potential but some mechanical flaws in his swing that are fixable.
any relation to bill?
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, he’s Hohn, nevermind
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s hope and pray that the answer is No
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as in ejected?
by Hohn?
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds…Russian!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Joseph Terdoslavich
Never heard of him, but he’s very close to being my favorite player already because of the name.
The names always get me, too.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey kids
anyone care to fill me on who we drafted? I just caught up on my sleep.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
the theme so far has been athleticism
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
not that I know anything about these kids
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and “professional hitters”
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
irony?
professional hitters in the amateur draft?
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
by round
2. jacob heyward
3. heyward’s dad
4. heyward’s grandpa
5. heyward’s dog
6. heyward’s pet hamster
Jesus had a hamster?
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I give our draft an A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I give our draft an A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
baha
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not Much on Joe, heres his 2010 stats
Terdoslavich, Joe
AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
.326 55-54 224 34 73 12 2 7 46 110 .491 19 2 36 7 .379 3 0 3-9 53 103 13 .923
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Jun 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
terdoslavich = cojo clone
Long Beach State SO 1B Joey Terdoslavich
_
Terdoslavich was once a pretty exciting prospect, but his transfer to Long Beach has taken his name out of the big-time college spotlight. His power remains, but the 2010 drop in plate discipline is worrying. In his favor, however, is the positional versatility so many of these first base prospects will need if they want big league bench jobs someday.
But…but…i wanted a JHey clone.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ryan Leaf 2.0
I could see it happening.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Just listening to him talk
He’s the age of a high school junior, and he sounds like it. I’m not sure he has the maturity to deal with the hype and expectations. I understand that he’s not going to be expected to do anything for a few years, but I have some questions about his plate discipline as well.
Obviously the expectations are different
but latin players have to deal with playing professional baseball in a foreign country at age 16.
D
I think Bryce Harper sounds like the name of the guy in a stupid high school chick flick.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha
Zac Effron’s role
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like we’re just drafting the funkiest names available
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Jun 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
can anyone beat RSF yet?
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a rule
We have to draft the players with the stupidest names this year.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Braves get what's going on here
This is a weak draft, and now that the real interesting guys are gone, they’re amusing the fans by putting silly names up on the board. It’s an entertainment business.
toronto might give us a run for the money
noah snydergaard
asher wojciechowski
marcus knecht
dickie thon
Yeah…i think they win.
But i really really want Jacob Heyward!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great, so we win.
Let’s hope Jacob has the talent of his brother.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope we wim
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stephen Strasburg...
I hope the Pirates light him up tonight.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
i know
i just love how ESPN is BJ’ing him already. Even more than Heyward.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 8, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
According to ESPN, Strasburg is God. Silly ESPN! We all know Jason Heyward is God.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't
I’ve had him in fantasy for months
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
must’ve been a pitcher.
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Straslessburger
Nats come by to visit June 28-30 and if they pitch him every 5th day…he should get the ball at the Ted the 29th
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Jun 8, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
I have to admit..
I’d love to see Jason Heyward vs. Stephen Strasburg.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wonder what the Braves see
with these numbers http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=1257053
oh dear lord…
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
waaay better.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
idk
maybe the 44 Ks in 27 IP…
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
“Right-hander Matt Suschak (pictured) has been drawing scouts because of his “plus” arm strength. Last Thursday, he dueled Ball State fireballer Perci Garner (more on him this week). And while Suschak got the win, both pitchers were touched up. Suschak gave up six earned runs on eight hits and a walk in seven innings, striking out four. Garner gave up four runs on nine hits and two walks.
Matt Suschak
For the season, Suschak is 4-1 with a 4.12 ERA in 54 innings. He’s averaging about a strikeout per inning and limiting opposing batters to a .205 average.
I talked to one AL West scout who texted me: “A COUPLE OF RIGHT-HANDERS THROWING BIG VELO.” That naturally piqued my interest. And he told me about Suschak.
“Suschak’s hitting 96 now,” the scout said. “He was pitching out of the ‘pen for most of the season, but his velocity spiked about halfway through the season. Against Michigan he was 94-95 so they moved him to the Friday spot. His second start he was 95 for most of the way. It’s dipped a little since, his last couple of starts he’s been sitting around 92-93.”
Suschak’s breaking ball is a slurve-type pitch with good downward tilt. He throws it in the 76-79 mph range. His command is a work in progress—he hit two batters Thursday—but he has the potential to be a power reliever or a back-of-the-rotation starter.
And put the above pedestrian numbers aside: Suschak’s upside is such that he could be a mid-third round pick or better. He could be some team’s diamond in the rough.
“From the Northern schools, it just takes some guys to get going,” the scout said. “It’s no coincidence that Suschak, [Indiana State’s] Jacob Petricka and [Missouri State’s] Mike Kickham are mid- to high-90s now and they’re all from Midwest schools.” "
did anyone catch
the player that got drafted that goes to The Pendleton School?
i nearly pissed my pants.
must’ve been a pitcher
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So who picks the players, anyway? Wren? Bobby?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Matty S
15 SUSCHAK, Matt….
ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA
3.84 5-1 21 6 0 0/0 3 61.0 47 31 26 22 60 9 1 3 227 .207 7 8 1 3 3
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Jun 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions
Again, weird names.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at least we'll have an OF who knows how to run the option
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So many weird names!! Good lord…..
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fresno City College FR 3B David Rohm – Rohm hits and hits and hits. He can also steal a bag when left unattended (great instincts on the bases), smack a ball the other way (very mature hitting style), and crank it out of the ballpark when the mood strikes (above-average present power). Mostly though, he hits. His defense ranks in the bottom third of players here in the top 30, but he still has a better than 50/50 shot to stick at the position through his first six years of big league control. Ah, the defense update is appreciated, you’re thinking, but, wait, can the guy hit? Excellent question; yes, David Rohm can hit.
mlb.com
had him as a 1b, is that where we put him?
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I take it we're giving up on the silly name contest.
David Rohm and Kurt Fleming? We’ll never win with these!
In 2 weeks
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 8, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Danville does at least.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 8, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And Teheran, among others...
I always liked the focus on JUCOs and high school kids personally, though maybe that has changed in the last several years as more of your later round picks head to school.
:)
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
is anyone here? hello? is the draft still going on?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
good, because I’m lonely :)
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
he's from college of s. nevada
and is bryce harper’s teammate. i hope we signed him to fuck with bryce
CHASEN: yo bryce, remember back in college when you got herpes from that hooker?
BRYCE: promptly strikes out 4 times in a game
at this point
im judging picks based on whether mlb thinks highly enough of them to have a highlight video available.
WOW
i know chasen, tahts fucking weird i hang out with him a month ago, thats so cool
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
thats creepy
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
how
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
im only 19
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW Barrett Kleinknecht SS
Braves pick
that takes the cake
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Jun 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
since its just us in this thread
and you guys seem to be pretty level headed…
Strasburg is going to be dominant right away. Discuss
probably
he’ll get hit some though. He won’t throw like 15 perfect games for the rest of the season or anything
define "dominant"
his current minor-league numbers? no. but he’ll probably be better than mike leake, IMO
did you hear his number is going to be retired before the game? They’re also presenting him all kinds of awards before he throws a perfect game. However the Nationals will not score him any runs so it will go into 33 innings and then the nats bullpen will blow it.
Strasburg will take the loss, becausse Joe West, Jim Joyce and Bill Hohn will all be umpiring the game and somehow charge the loss to him.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
I have to admit, I’m getting kind of pissed. I was positive my buddy from ODU was going to be a 4th to 6th round pick, but through 12 he still hasn’t gone. I don’t know who wouldn’t want a lefty with plus, plus secondary stuff who led his league in Ks this year. And threw a no-hitter. Get it done Frank!
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I guess. He’s at 87-89 with the fastball, but he’s also striking out a ton of guys. It’s insanely hard to strike out guys swinging aluminum bats; the slightest bit of contact leads to hits. If you can strike guys out in college you can be successful as a pro, regardless of velocity.
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the indians just took michael goodnight
I hope he becomes a big prospect and hundreds of newspaper headlines come up with some incredible puns.
This thread
is solely about funny player’s names. This is like that time when my mom found out there were players named Milton Bradley and Coco Crisp.
what else am I supposed to talk about when I know nothing about the MLB draft? I am here to provide comic relief for those with more smartness than i.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
It’s not like the NBA or NFL…..
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
combo of Brandon Dubinsky and Chris Drury
from my NY Rangers
we select a lot of SS because they are usually the most athletic of their respective teams
there will be a lot of positional shuffling going on
So just got back from golf. How has the draft gone? Any power guys, high risk high reward types of players and any speed or good pitching prospects? Thanks
by round
2. jacob heyward
3. heyward’s dad
4. heyward’s grandpa
5. heyward’s dog
6. heyward’s pet hamster
by atl192485 on Jun 8, 2010 11:46 AM PDT
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
Holy shit, so why did every1 pass on him and why didnt we take a stab at him in the later rounds if he fell that low
by atlbraveschamps on Jun 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, he was considered in some mock’s to go in the mid to late first round, wow!
by atlbraveschamps on Jun 8, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
plus is like well above average, plus-plus is well above that. plus plus is about as good as it gets.
slot money is the recommended signing bonuses handed down by the commissioners office. It’s not really enforced, but most teams follow it anyway. a lot of guys want more than “slot money” for whatever spot in the draft they’re going to be selected, so the teams that stick to the guidelines don’t draft them and they fall until the cardinals, tigers, yankees, or red sox take them
plus = solidly above average attribute (could be describing speed or power, etc)
plus plus = top of the line attribute
slot = what a team should expect to pay for a given pick (determined by selig and his minions)
sometimes you have good players that slip because they demand a ton of money… then a team like the red sox picks them up in the second round and gives them a massive bonus - something not expected for a pick that low
Braves drafted someone Ive hung out with before
chasen shreve
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
can you get him to sign some stuff
and mail it to us plz? you know, on the off-chance he makes it big…
COOL STORY COMING UP
My roommate asks me if I’ve ever heard of a pitcher that he and his brother used to be really good friends with. He knows nothing about baseball but knows I watch it all the time. His friend = Adam Wainwright. He had no idea that Wainwright was a Cy Young contender. He thought he was some random minor leaguer.
rofl
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
i never met harper, i heard hes a douche tho, so fuck him
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Jun 8, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
POLL TIME
would you prefer:
A. mike stanton hits 4 jacks, marlins beat phillies
OR
B. mike stanton goes 0/4 with 6Ks, phillies win
A for fantasy baseball purposes.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
How much longer until you drop him? Or maybe you did for Stanton?
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 8, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
c
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
so how good is this winnie guy?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
brandon drury
The best high school position player in Oregon is Drury, a baseball rat who has a strong, athletic 6-foot-2 build. He keeps his hands back at the plate, shows bat speed and gets good backspin on balls. While he was a high school shortstop, he has below-average speed and will have to move to third base or the outfield as a pro. He has also committed to Oregon State, but scouts believe he is more motivated to play professionally.
Stefan Sabol C
I think this kid was on a HS skills contest I saw on FSN earlier this week
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Jun 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
from BA
95. Stefan Sabol, c
Aliso Niguel HS, Aliso Viejo, Calif.
Sabol is the cousin of Pittsburgh Steelers all-pro safety Troy Polamalu. One of the finest prep athletes in the nation, Sabol finished first in the SPARQ testing (which includes several tests that measure athleticism) at last summer’s Area Code Games, with a 36.2-inch vertical leap and a 6.28-second time over 60 yards. Some scouts doubt the 60 time, though Sabol has well-above-average speed. Scouts also say that Sabol will not remain a catcher as a pro. While his arm is adequate behind the plate, his receiving skills are substandard. His tools fit comfortably as a corner outfielder. As a hitter, Sabol rarely has been productive with a wood bat. The switch from metal to wood may be a difficult transition for him, though he has the skills to succeed as a hitter. He flashes both bat speed and quickness despite a few problems in his hitting mechanics. His stride is too long, and he has a tendency to pull his head and front shoulder off the pitch. An Oregon signee, Sabol is the most athletic prep receiver available, but he does not figure to catch if he signs a pro contract in 2010. Instead, he profiles as a potential five-tool outfielder.
from baseballbeginnings
Stefan Sabol, C
6-1, 195 B/T: R/R
(Aliso Niguel HS, Aliso Niguel, CA)
Games seen: 6, Innings: 40
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: Durable athletic frame frame, strong hips and thighs and still filling out.
STRENGTHS: Above-average speed, good first step. Handsy hitter, hard to beat with velocity on the inner half. Very good athlete for position. Loose, quick athletic actions.
WEAKNESSES: Needs to improve catching defense – needs to use body to block balls, drops to his knees too many times, hurries throws before feet are set, throws drift on him. Needs to show he can go to right field more consistently in coming years.
SUMMARY: Should be above-average offensive player with at least average defensive skills if he stays behind the plate in the coming years. Strikes me as flashy player – wants you to know he’s there.
GRADES: (Present/Future)
Hit 35/60
Power 30/50
Run 60/60
Throw 40/50
Field 30/50
Overall Future Potential: 54
mlbfantasyprospects
Stefan Sabol (C, Aliso Niquel HS)
The Breakdown
Physicals
Height: 6’2
Weight: 210
Positions
Current: C/IF/OF
Projected MLB: C/Util
Miscellaneous
School: Aliso Niquel HS
Best Case Scenario: Russell Martin
Worst Case Scenario: Brandon Inge
ETA: 2014
Scouting Report and Analysis
The strong athletic backstop out of California has all of the physical tools necessary to excel at the next level, but due to his overall athleticism, he has played elsewhere in the field. Therefore he has not caught as many games as some of his peers, so his mechanics are still a work in progress. He could be the ultimate utility player who can play anywhere on the field similar to Inge.
His strength, drawn from his 6’2, 205-pound frame, allows him to power the ball to the gaps, and if he maintains his catcher eligibility, Sabol will be a sweet fantasy gem. His strong right-handed swing, combined with impressive bat speed, allows him to overpower pitches to all parts of the field.
Sabol has showcased impressive speed (6.6) for a catcher, and coupled with his time spent in the outfield, the team that drafts him will be confident in his abilities to play all over the field. By the time he matures and becomes comfortable with major league pitching, he will be able to hit for solid .290-.300 average, swipe as many as 15-20 bases and drive in 70-plus runs consistently.
Zach Alvord
Alvord is an athletically built 6-0, 180 lb middle infielder with very good compact strength for a middle infielder. Alvord’s arm strength and athletic ability play all over the field, although he probably has the most experience playing second base. Alvord’s best tool is his bat and offensive potential as a middle of the field player. He is a dead red fastball hitter with very good bat speed and the ability to turn around top velocity pitchers. He has some pull lift in his swing and can hit the ball a long way. He has a verbal commitment to attend Auburn University and could create early round draft interest.
mlb
Hitting ability: Alvord has plenty of bat speed. He started barring his front arm on his swing a bit, but it’s correctable.
Power: He’s got power that plays now and will play in the future. He’s got some natural loft to his swing.
Running speed: He’s got below-average speed.
Base running: Running is not a part of his game.
Arm strength: He’s got a pretty strong arm, enough for second base.
Fielding: He certainly won’t play short at the next level. He might be OK as an offensive-minded second baseman. He could be an interesting option behind the plate, though he’s never played there.
Range: He’s got below-average range in the middle infield.
Physical Description: Alvord is strong and fairly athletic. Some have compared him to Gordon Beckham.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Legitimate power in his bat, excellent bat speed.
Weaknesses: Issue with his swing mechanics have hurt his overall hitting. He’s limited defensively. If he’s going to play second, he better hit enough to be make up for his limitations.
Summary: Alvord has the makings of a very good, offensive-minded second baseman. He might never be a Gold Glover defensively, but it looks like the bat might play, especially once he corrects an issue with his swing. He’s got both present and future power, with natural loft in his swing and plenty of bat speed. It’s his bat that will carry him and that will get him drafted. The team that thinks it’s enough for him to be an offensive-minded second baseman or that is willing to think about moving him to another position might take a chance on that hitting potential.
from BA
165. Zach Alvord, ss
South Forsyth HS, Cumming, Ga.
Alvord entered the year as one of Georgia’s top prep hitters, and that hasn’t changed. He’s strong and solid at 5-foot-11, 185 pounds, and he has good enough hands to stay in the infield. He also has above-average arm strength, having hit the low 90s as a prep closer, but his best tool is his bat. Alvord bars his lead arm, a no-no for many scouts, yet he still creates good bat speed and has present strength, giving him raw power. Some scouts compare him to former Auburn infielder Joe Saunders (a 2009 fifth-round pick now with the Rockies), a comparison made in part because Alvord is committed to Auburn. He may wind up there for two big reasons: He’s a below-average runner, and he’s got a big price tag. In Georgia this spring, scouts saw so much speed that Alvord’s lack of speed stood out in a negative way. He’s not going to play shortstop as a pro, may not have the range for second and doesn’t have the classic size or profile for third. Alvord’s price tag also might cause him to drop, as he has a strong commitment to college and prefers a comparison to Gordon Beckham, who was more athletic and more of a power hitter. If Alvord has a Saunders-like career, scouts will definitely be back. Despite his polished bat, he may wind up falling out of the first five rounds, where his talent fits.
This guy?
Tyler Hess
- 55 RHP
Ht:6-4 Weight:236
Sophomore
B/T:R/R
CAREER NOTES: Owns a 5-3 record with a 6.39 earned-run average in two full seasons at Pepperdine … Has pitched 63.1 innings through 43 relief appearances and has struck out 61 batters.
CAREER HIGHS: Strikeouts: 6, 3/5/09 vs. Evansville; Walks: 3 (4x), Last: 4/19/09 vs. Loyola Marymount; IP (start): None; IP (relief): 3.2, 3/5/09 vs. Evansville; Winning Streak: 4g, 3/8-6/2/08; Losing Streak: 2g, 3/21/09 – present.
SPRING 2009: Posted a 1-2 record with a 7.30 earned-run average through 18 relief appearances and 24.2 innings pitched … His 18 outings were second on the team to Nick Gaudi … Struck out 29 batters and averaged 10.58 strikeouts per game … Picked off one runner, Evansville’s Cody Fick … As a fielder, was credited with three assists and helped turn a double play … Induced four double play ground balls, which was the team’s second highest total (Scott Alexander, 9) and the most by any Waves’ reliever … Tagged out two runners at home plate following wild pitches (3/15 at Wichita State and 4/22 vs. Cal State Fullerton) … Made season debut vs. Cal State Northridge (2/22), relieving Aaron Gates in the sixth inning with the game tied at 1-1 and runners on first and second base … Struck out the two Matadors he faced to escape the inning … Wiggled out of a second jam in the seventh inning by inducing a 3-2 double play ball as Ryan Heroy tagged first base before gunning down a Matador at home plate … Picked up first win of season vs. Evansville (3/5) with 3.2 IP of quality relief, striking out a season and career high six batters … Was the pitcher of record when Nate Johnson scored Denny Duron on a walkoff sacrifice fly in the ninth … Pitched an inning of scoreless relief during Pepperdine’s 16-6 win over then-No. 25 Cal Poly (3/10) … Allowed two of the first three Saint Mary’s batters (4/11) to reach base, but escaped the minor jam by getting Ryan Young to line out into a 3-6 double play … Walked and struck out one Gael on 13 pitches, six strikes in what was a scoreless seventh inning of Pepperdine’s 21-2 win … Struck out four batters over the final 1.2 innings of a 10-5 loss at Long Beach State (5/5) … All four punch outs came with a pair of runners in scoring position in both the seventh and eighth innings … Pitched two innings at then-No. 18 Cal Poly (5/12) … Entered game to start the seventh with a 5-2 lead, but gave up a two-out, two-run double that cut the lead to 5-4, but then stranded the tying run at second base in both frames via fly out and strikeout … Made final appearance of the season at then-No. 4 Cal State Fullerton (5/19) in the top of the seventh and pitched a scoreless inning on 11 pitches/5 strikes … Allowed the first two Titans to reach base on a hit by pitch and single before getting Joe Scott to ground into a double play.
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
Transferred to D-II Sonoma State after his sophomore year (2009)
Appeared in 12 games, 4 as a starter. Record of 2-3 with an ERA of 7.15 in 39 IP. Allowed more than a hit per inning, had a K/BB ratio of 33/25, and led the team with 14 WP and 9 hit batsmen.
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
Evan Gattis, Texas-Permian Basin
Started 57 games for the Falcons. Lead team in every batting category.
AVG/SLG/OBP: .403/.712/.519
12 homers, 19 double, 35 walks and only 24 strikeouts in 191 at-bats.
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
Evan Danieli, P, Notre Dame
AT NOTRE DAME: One-year monogram winner that enters junior season with a 5.64 career ERA and 0-1 record, plus 24 strikeouts, 21 walks and 34 hits allowed (.288 opponent batting average) in 11 appearances (two starts) and 30.1 innings (six hit batters, 10 wild pitches, three home runs allowed) … averaging 7.12 strikeouts and 6.23 walks per 9.0 innings pitched in his career … will likely miss the entire 2010 season after off-season elbow surgery … imposing presence who is noted for ability to consistently repeat his pitching motion and for his devastating curveball … throws tight, late-breaking and well-controlled curve that can be legitimate “out pitch” … also has a heavy, over-the-top fastball that touches the low-90s, plus a developing changeup and slider … benefits from loose arm and downward angle to the plate … battle-tested competitor with good poise … made strides in `07 fall workouts with his situational pitching … gained quality experience as a freshman … needs to continue work toward consistency … probably owns the most electric stuff of any member of the Irish pitching staff.
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
Dan Jurik, P, St. John Fisher College
Senior went 7-3 with 1.99 ERA, 5 complete games in 13 starts. 85 K, 30 BB in 77 IP.
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