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Chipper Jones and Kenshin Kawakami Lead Braves to 4-3 Win Over Tigers

With the impeding doom of losing his rotation spot, Kenshin Kawakami had a lights out performance against a tough American League lineup. Kawakami threw seven great innings while allowing just five base runners and one run to score. He also struck out six and walked three, but allowed just two hits over the course of his outing. It was a very impressive outing for Kawakami, who had his back against a wall. The decision will be made within the next few days on who is removed, Kenshin or Kris Medlen, but I would still imagine that it is Kawakami despite his great performance this evening. Kenshin was credited with his first win of the season and is now 1-9.

With Billy Wagner apparently unavailable, the bullpen tried as hard as they could to not let Kenshin get his first win. Takashi Saito came in to close the game and allowed Miguel Cabrera to hit his 20th home run. After striking out Brennan Boesch, Saito subsequently walked two batters. Bobby Cox removed Saito for Eric O'Flaherty who walked two more batters and forced in a run, which made it a one-run game. With Austin Jackson due up next, Cox went to Peter Moylan to try and finally finish the game. Jim Leyland countered by pinch-hitting the left-handed Johnny Damon. The ever-patient Damon worked the count to 3-1, then fouled off the 3-1 and 3-2 pitches before Moylan caught him looking to earn his first save of the season. The importance of having Billy Wagner closing games was never more obvious than tonight.

Star-divide

The majority of the Braves scoring came in the seventh inning. Joel Zumaya came on to get the final out of the sixth and stayed on for the seventh. He opened up the inning with a walk to Gregor Blanco, which was an extremely important at-bat in this game. Brooks Conrad came on to pinch-hit and bunted Blanco over (a move I immediately disagreed with), and Melky Cabrera walked after a Martin Prado ground out. This brought up Chipper Jones to face the fireballer Zumaya and Chipper took a 100mph fastball over the centerfield fence for his fifth home run to make it a 3-1 contest. The following inning, Troy Glaus hit a single and came all the way around to score on an Eric Hinske double, his 16th of the season. Hinske's triple slash line is currently .306/.371/.538. The insurance run proved to be vital as the Braves bullpen was determined to not let Kenshin get his first win.

Martin Prado lead the game off with a double, his 22nd of the season and added another hit as well, pushing his average to .332. Blanco had three walks, and his on-base abilities may actually make him the Braves best option for centerfield right now. With Chipper's home run, he pushed his hitting streak to 10 games. He has safely hit in every game since he announced he was leaning towards retirement.

It was a scary finish, but a win is a win. The Braves moved to 1.5 games ahead of the Mets and 3.5 ahead of the Phillies as both lost earlier today. The Braves are now 44-31 and are on pace for a 95-67 record.

Up next is Tommy Hanson (7-4, 4.17 ERA, 4.11 xFIP) vs. Justin Verlander (8-5, 3.94 ERA, 4.05 xFIP) at 1:35 EST. The past two games have seen great outings from all four starters and if all goes as expected, tomorrow's game should be no different. With that said, it probably won't go expected because I just typed that.

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Wagner’s pitched with a sore ankle for about 10 days, and today it was too sore for him to pitch without changing delivery. Wagner tried to warm up in bottom of 8th after taping it more than usual, but it was too sore. He got cortisone shot after game. Wagner said he should be good to go as soon as tomorrow, though he’ll have to see how if feels when he gets here.

by ByrneSupremacy on Jun 26, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

CRAP

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Jun 26, 2010 8:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not really a surprise

The guy is (getting) old and is going to be more prone to injuries, especially after some of the work he’s put in the last two months.

The worst part about this is the performance by the bullpen (especially Saito), really handicaps Cox if he wants to do the Venters/Saito combination more often when Wagner needs the rest.

by sag969 on Jun 26, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw it on MLBTV which I think was the Sports South broadcast. I’ve never seen that before but it was pretty awesome.

They may have to hospitalize Sid Bream!

-We miss you Skip!

by RaymondBatista on Jun 26, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the game

The curtain call was one of the cooler things I’ve seen….I think the rest of the players pretty much tricked him into it haha.

"Look out Atlanta. Jason Heyward is going to wow you."
-Chipper

by kauf67 on Jun 26, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

ESPN SportsCenter have been showing it tonight:)

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya the crowd loved that. Great idea.

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

KK won and Chipper hit a homer

Wow. Great game. KK pitched great, and even though Medlen deserves to stay in the rotation, I still think he is going to the bullpen. Chipper is back. If he keeps this up, I can’t imagine him retiring.

by Braves24 on Jun 26, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

They got lucky

I have always and will always be a Braves fan, but the last called strike was ball 4. The boys should have wrapped it up before it got to that point, but I still think that they need to thank the home-plate umpire for that one. Either way, great game offensively. Keep it up!

by softballgirl33 on Jun 26, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think

anyone on here will argue that, the ump handed that game to us. Maybe that ump should be behind the plate when KK pitches. He got more help from him than the bullpen.

Do you know why Buster Olney's initials are BO, because he stinks

by kp.atl on Jun 26, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will argue that.

And Buster Olney is actually a lot better than most.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Jun 27, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 10 days

No one will remember that strike 3 call. It’ll just be another win. We got a lucky break. It’s part of baseball.

"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.

by Scott Coleman on Jun 26, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

In my mind

This makes up for the game against the Giants when McCann was interfered with trying to throw out a base stealer and threw the ball into center. They scored right after that. I had the most sour taste in my mouth after that loss. I’m sure there have been other calls that have affected us too, negatively and positively, but that one immediately came to mind though.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 26, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is this year's prime example

Tim Tscida and his myopia hurt the Braves really badly that day.

"To live is to war with trolls..." - Henrik Ibsen

by Sam Jethroe on Jun 27, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone can cripe and complain about ball calls and everything. But everything evens out over a 162 games season..

by dkinser86 on Jun 26, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if that's true

I still remember the bad call from a game last year, where there was a close play at 3rd and Chipper tagged the guy a mile before he touched the base. I don’t remember the game, the team, or the umpire’s name, but I recognize the umpire every time he does a Braves game and just groan.

You might not remember the exact specifics of a bad call, but they always stick around – especially if it determines the outcome of a game.

by sag969 on Jun 26, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

chipper said afterward that he’d never had a guy slide into his glove and be called safe before.

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

It should have been mentioned in the recap. I’m sure if we were on the other side of things, it would have been mentioned.

I know the Braves have their own fair share of bad calls, but doesn’t make me feel good to win that way.

by sag969 on Jun 26, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pitch was too close to take.

And it was closer than it looked because of late tailing action. In fact, I stand by this OT comment:

personally, on the slow mo replay, I thought strike 3 was on the black when it crossed the plate, but had very late tailing action such that where received by McCann, it looked well off the plate.
Excellent call by the ump.

by fandave on Jun 26, 2010 5:03 PM PDT

by fandave on Jun 26, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah...

because that one call was the only thing that determined the outcome of that game.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Jun 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't have?

If its a ball then the game is tied. With the bases still loaded.

Not saying that the Braves don’t eventually still win, but things take a huge turn for the worse. Especially since Moylan was struggling to find the strike zone.

by sag969 on Jun 27, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was one ball/strike call.

Do you think all the others in the entire game were absolutely correct? The only reason that one stands out is because it was the last one of the game. You could change any one call somewhere else in the game, and the outcome of the game would have been changed. It’s part of baseball. I’ve seen calls a LOT worse than that one.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Jun 27, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it makes up for losing a game on an outfield collision.

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Cederstrom

is the anti-Bill Hohn. Thank you for giving KK his first (and well-deserved) win.

Atlanta Hawks=the team that drafted big $$$$$$$$$ instead of big men.

by hawves on Jun 26, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a pretty pathetic call.

In addition, his strike zone was all over the place the last couple innings. I think he just decided that he really didn’t want to call extra innings, so he ended the game. I’m glad he did—he really bailed out Saito, EOF, and Moylan.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt see the whole game as I went out to watch the U.S game. I heard Joe say that the ump had been giving the pithers the outside corner all day. But that pitch was so bad I was initially cussing Moylan out.

by Shoert on Jun 26, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice to see them get right back to winning series.

And even nicer to see KK pitch so great—and get the win! I’ve said it a million times—he’s a good starter and does not deserve to be demoted to the bullpen. I’d like to think this game would shut up the haters, but I’m not that naive.

Of course, no one “deserves” to be sent to the pen right now, but there are plenty of reasons to think that Medlen is exactly what we need in the pen right now—a shutdown, strike-throwing, right-handed reliever. He was exactly that earlier in the year, and we’ve missed him up there lately. With the latest news about Wagner, bullpen depth becomes even more important. I feel like Medlen is probably a bit better than KK as a starter, but I also feel like he’s a MUCH better reliever than KK, so that’d be the tie-breaker for me.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d say Medlen is substantially better as a starter, though I completely understand if he gets moved to the bullpen. With that said, I still get the feeling they’ll move KK. Innings limitations, bullpen management, and everything included, I think they will keep Medlen starting for now at least.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 26, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The numbers say you're wrong about the "substantially" part.

Unless you have a weird definition of substantially.

It’s not that I’m eager to move Medlen to the pen, though. I think JJ needs to stay in the minors for another couple starts. He’s making me nervous by sucking down in AAA. I don’t want to move KK or Medlen to the pen if JJ is not ready to be a good pitcher at the MLB level again.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So JJ is sucking in AAA. I thought it was just me.

by romone_braves91 on Jun 26, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are his stats?

or is it like reverse KK, where he’s pitching badly and the stats don’t show it?

Atlanta Hawks=the team that drafted big $$$$$$$$$ instead of big men.

by hawves on Jun 26, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go:

13 IP, 20 H, 8 R (5.56 ERA), 6 BB, 9 K

That’s just really, really bad.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm....

you said it best.

bq.That’s just really, really bad.

Atlanta Hawks=the team that drafted big $$$$$$$$$ instead of big men.

by hawves on Jun 26, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

two fails in one night

sweet

Atlanta Hawks=the team that drafted big $$$$$$$$$ instead of big men.

by hawves on Jun 26, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering whether he was working on his mechanics or just couldn’t get the job done. I was guessing the former.

by romone_braves91 on Jun 26, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any chance that he is trying to get the feel for his pitches? I don’t have the numbers to back it up, but iirc most pitchers tend to not far so well in the minors during rehab stints, as they are getting the feel for the offspeed pitches.

Don’t know if that’s the case, and if so, I would like for him to get the feel for them a bit better before he starts in the bigs.

by dkinser86 on Jun 26, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He probably was, at first...

But you’d have to think that he’d have moved toward “real pitching” by his 3rd start… Which was as bad as any of them.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby and the staff did state they were going to watch his bullpen session on Sunday. Does that mean anything?

by romone_braves91 on Jun 26, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes.

Hard to say what it means until we hear back on how JJ did. If he seemed to be struggling with his command, they might push back his return. Or at least I’d hope they would.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I’ve watched 2 of his 3 starts, not impressive. I hope he gets it together before they bring him back up.

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be honest

I have worried about it to. He apparently was just working on pitches but at the same time I want to see a full outing from him where he’s pitching like he would in the majors

by drumzalicious on Jun 26, 2010 9:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly my opinion.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He wasn’t dominating but he was doing good. He had one really bad start and one really good start, but I would like to see him throw at least one more rehab start.

by Braves24 on Jun 26, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even just the dominating side of it. I want to see his pitch count up. I think his last outing was around 90 pitches. We already have a beat up pen and we need him to be able to go 6-7 innings

by drumzalicious on Jun 26, 2010 9:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And dont forget about the shoulder issue in spring training. One slight adjustment to mechanics to compensate for that could spawn a # of issues. So if the shoulder and the accompanying mechanics adjustments havent been resolved then he may struggle to immediately regain form.

by CharlotteChop on Jun 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

he has not been consistently good since the shoulder problem. He could have made adjustments to compensate the shoulder soreness and that is the reason he has not been as good early on as he was last season.

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 26, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see how.

Medlen’s K/BB, one of the only things he can truly control is over 3.00 as a starter whereas Kenshin’s is barely above 2.00. There’s reason to believe that from here on out Medlen could be our second best starter. I don’t think you can say the same for Medlen. Past performance means a lot, but only because it can help find out what will happen in the future. Luck has helped partially helped Medlen and partially hurt Kenshin, but even so Medlen is probably a more reliable option from here on out. The fact that Kenshin has many more miles on his arm and Medlen is on the upswing in terms of his career matters as well. I would still say Medlen is a substantially better starter.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 27, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've read this comment three times

and it still makes no sense to me.

There’s reason to believe that from here on out Medlen could be our second best starter. I don’t think you can say the same for Medlen.

Luck has helped partially helped Medlen

Is it just me?

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I understand correctly, the last word of the first quote should be “Kawakami,” and typed “helped” one time too often. It’s a comment I agree with, ftr.

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeh my bad

I wrote that from my girlfriend’s computer before bed and meant to say Kawakami. Luck has helped Kris and not helped him as well. His home run rate won’t be this high all year but his BABIP will get higher as well, both will likely go up simultaneously.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 27, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Medlen's HR/FB rate

is not abnormal at all. There is no evidence that it will go down. Medlen has a low BABIP, and even more importantly, a very high strand rate. All the evidence suggests that Kris has been fairly lucky this year.

As for KK, his HR/FB is a bit low, but his BABIP is a bit high and his strand rate is very low. He has definitely been at least a bit unlucky.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Medlen's FIP (as a starter) is 4.03

KK’s is 4.23.

How on earth is that a substantial difference? Remember, 2 of the 3 components of FIP are BB and K, so that includes Kris’ excellent BB/K ratio.

As to the other things you say, none of them use data. How am I supposed to argue the point that Kris is “on the upswing”? What on earth does that mean—in concrete, measurable terms—as far as THIS YEAR is concerned? Nothing, so far as I can tell. If that has any meaning at all (which I am not sure it does), it would apply only to coming years. After all, I could say that Teheran is “on the upswing,” too, but that doesn’t mean he should be in our rotation this year.

As of right now, there is very little difference between Kris and KK as a starter, according to the evidence. Put that together with how excellent Meds is out of the bullpen (ERA and FIP around 2.5!), and you’ve got a very rational argument for moving Medlen rather than KK. For you to claim otherwise is disingenuous.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 27, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

With Thursday off and JJ starting Wednesday, Bobby can wait and see.

We’ve got Hanson, Hudson, Lowe, and JJ starting the next 4. With Thursday off, we could slot Hanson back into his regular turn on Friday, followed by everyone else on their regular turn, and let KK and Medlen each have a relief appearance or two in between. That is if a decision on which one keeps starting hasn’t already been made.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure.

I do wish that we’d keep JJ down for another couple starts, though. It’s not like we urgently need him, and I am not convinced that he will be any good.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 27, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

But we all know that being a starter is more valuable and beneficial to the team so if Meds is the better starter that’s who you go with. Right?

by JFP on Jun 26, 2010 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Depends on how big the difference is.

Meds is so much better as a reliever that it easily outweighs his slight advantage as a starter. Check his numbers as a reliever—they’re insanely good.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 26, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is for you, #10

You rock.

Atlanta Hawks=the team that drafted big $$$$$$$$$ instead of big men.

by hawves on Jun 26, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

fail link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erHoQ9teSiM

Atlanta Hawks=the team that drafted big $$$$$$$$$ instead of big men.

by hawves on Jun 26, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stat from DOB
As of right now, Kawakami has a 3.77 ERA in 62 innings with McCann catching, and a 6.98 ERA in 19-1/3 innings with Ross catching.

by romone_braves91 on Jun 26, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

whats funny

Is that if I remember correctly for a while it was the other way around last year

by drumzalicious on Jun 26, 2010 9:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

not surprising

SSS police!!!

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i really think

Meds is going to the pen. With Saito still having a sore hamstring, Wagner a sore ankle, and Moylan struggling a little sometimes we need someone who we know can get those critical outs.

I personally would want to see another start from JJ in the minors as none of them have looked very strong. Of course there is the reasoning of him working on pitches however I want to see a start or two of him pitching how he would if he was in the majors. He sounds like he is still trying to get a feel for some of his pitches which was his problem before the DL.

Also I think its quite remarkable that Wagner has been so freaking filthy through this injury.

Hopefully Tommy can pitch deep into the game for us tomorrow and give our pen a rest or the offense goes to work and we can use Martinez and Chavez

by drumzalicious on Jun 26, 2010 9:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We need Hanson to go deep in tomorrow’s game and the offense put alot of runs up, but that might be hard with Verlander on the mound. The bullpen is really banged up and a day off would help a lot

by Braves24 on Jun 26, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The other issue is inning numbers. If the Braves want him to be a full time starter next year, they can’t overwork him this year. Otherwise the Verducci effect will come back to bite them in the ass.

by sag969 on Jun 26, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am slowly coming to your side of the fence. Medlen is so valuable in the pen and with it being pretty obvious that Saito isn’t fully healthy and now Wags a little banged up the Braves may need that bullpen arm that can effectively go two-three innings once even twice a week. We all know KKs record isn’t reflective of his true performance, so the Braves may need to put Medlen out there out of neccessity more than anything.

by CharlotteChop on Jun 26, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this off topic

but you know your team is slow, when Chipper is the leading base stealer with 5 at the midway point of the season

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Jun 26, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

But (I don’t have the stats to back it up) I don’t think Cox has ever been one for a lot of steals, no matter how fast the team is. I think a lot of guys: Prado/Heyward/Chipper/McLouth/Escobar could all steal more if Cox gave them the green light.

by sag969 on Jun 26, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Living in St. Pete

I get to see a lot of Rays games, and the speed aspect really helps the team, they seem to almost always have someone in scoring position because of the speed.

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Jun 26, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves in a way make up for a lack of steals by walking so much. Their OBP is best in the NL, and it seems they constantly have players in scoring position.

by CharlotteChop on Jun 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

like Dewey Cox

we Walk Hard

"Infield hits are sexy, because they require technique."

-Ichiro

by VivaLosBravos on Jun 27, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

They actually lead the majors with 90 stolen bases. Braves are at the bottom of the basement with 23? or so. Phillies (another team you would think would have a lot more speed) is actually tied with us.

But, like CharlotteChop said, we make up for it in other ways, we are first in the majors with 330 walks. The next closest, the Yankees, have 308.

by sag969 on Jun 27, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing that he doesn't

Because I highly doubt that any of them aside from McLouth could sustain a level of above 80% if they attempted at will. Prado and Escobar are rather slow for middle infielders, and Chipper has taken advantage of pitchers overlooking the fact that he may try and steal. Heyward’s got great speed but his ratio has been pretty bad at this level, although he has a very small sample size. Walking and staying on first is the best decision most of the time, though it is exciting and helpful when they do occasionally nab one.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 27, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

finally a bad call by the ump is helpful

i think that was a terrible call by the umpire to finish the game. the pitch was clearly outside,but a win is a win. good for KK. go braves!

by williejay1 on Jun 26, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

off topic

I realize Saito is coming back from an injury. At times he has been
impressive. Venters though seems destined for a late inning role.
Is it premature to lobby for Venters over Saito.
Also JJ seems to be coming along yet appears to need more time.
Pitching pain-free yet not yet on his game. Ready to be blasted for this
yet why not give JJ some time in the pen and delay the rotation issue.
I am aware of JJ’s stature and his stats make him an upper end of the
rotation guy, for years to come. why rush him back to starting in light of
the current situation.
Also on the screen I am impressed with the work of Dunn and Marek,
they would likely be on a number of ML 25 man rosters.

I is what I is and I'm sticking to my story

by sealift67 on Jun 26, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Even today I wondered this

With Venters looking so good in the eighth, and only throwing 12 pitches (8 for strikes), I think he could have easily come back out for the ninth and closed out the game.

by jpx7 on Jun 26, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two nights and already I'm sick of missing these games.

It sucks more so that they’re winning and I’m watching the freaking Yankees/Dodgers game on FOX. The only pleasant outcome of that game would be a stadium collapse.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Jun 26, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting...the Umpire apologized again to the Tigers
ATLANTA — Sitting at his locker and clearly unhappy with himself, home-plate umpire Gary Cederstrom said that when he saw the replay of his game-ending strike-three call tonight on Johnny Damon, “It didn’t look very good.”

Cederstrom said he called the pitch too quickly and that, when an umpire makes a call too quickly, he “usually gets in trouble.”

Tigers manager Jim Leyland said the pitch was several inches outside.

If Cederstrom had called the pitch a ball, Damon would have had the game-tying walk, and the Tigers — remarkably — would have had their fifth consecutive walk with two out in the ninth.

Instead, the called third strike from right-hander Peter Moylan on Damon allowed the Braves to escape with a 4-3 win.

“It was a sweeping pitch, going away from Damon,” Cederstrom said. "It looked good coming in, then broke late.

“My timing was fast. Whenever you have fast timing as an umpire, you usually get in trouble.”

"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.

by Scott Coleman on Jun 26, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

We better be on top of our game tomorrow

because no close calls will go our way. The Umps will try to make up for the mistake tonight.

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 26, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second time

This season an umpire has had to apologize to the Tigers.

by sag969 on Jun 27, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder who orchestrated Chipper’s curtain call? My guess is Huddy

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Jun 26, 2010 10:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah…it was him.

"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.

by Scott Coleman on Jun 26, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was just telling my wife Huddy seems like the one responsible for the dugout antics. If you saw his reaction of Chipper’s HR, he’s got to be the favorite.

by CharlotteChop on Jun 26, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too. I love Hudson. Funny guy, great pitcher and does a lot of good stuff for the community. Hudson is awesome

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Jun 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He is awesome. And I was just watching a bloopers show on the MLB channel and they had a spot on there from a few years ago where Eddie Perez thought he was showing the crew the luxury of the hotel room. He had no idea that Hudson had donned the Scream costume, hid in a closet, and scared the crap out of Eddie when he opened the closet door. It was really funny, Eddie screamed “Son of a bi***!” Huddy jumped out and then Langerhans and Smoltz came in laughing. It was really funny.

by CharlotteChop on Jun 26, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL thats hilarious! Rec'd

HUMAN TEAMMATE HEYWARD JASON FOR FRANCHISE MVP AFTER TAKING MATTERS INTO OWN HANDS AND REMOVING MCLOUTH NATE FROM LINEUP

by Zeus12888 on Jun 26, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers manager Jim Leyland said the pitch was several inches outside.

When he gives back his ’97 World Series ring, they can have this game.

"To live is to war with trolls..." - Henrik Ibsen

by Sam Jethroe on Jun 27, 2010 2:59 AM EDT reply actions  

This

The Tigs shouldn’t be crying over this. It only counts as one. I was a bit angry after the Zona loss with the collision but i kept thinking that it only counts as one loss.

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Jun 27, 2010 9:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good point.

As helpful as yesterday’s call was for Braves fans, it does not even come close to repaying the Eric Gregg debacle.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 27, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

For real....

Johnny Damon should know Cederstrom’s strike zone!

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Jun 27, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers /Leyland complaining about umpires call

Even though Moylan’s pitch was clearly outside,it was still 3 inches closer to the plate than Eric Gregg’s call that ended the 97 playoffs.What goes around comes around.

by williejay1 on Jun 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Curtain call: Awesome

Ump calling ball 4 to Damon a strike: Equally awesome
 
Where are the haters today????

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Jun 27, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Hospitalized with ulcers

Just so much stress when the Braves win.

"To live is to war with trolls..." - Henrik Ibsen

by Sam Jethroe on Jun 28, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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