Braves Sign Fifth-Round Pick Phil Gosselin
by gondeee on Jun 22, 2010 11:50 AM EDT
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PrintThe Atlanta Braves have signed their fifth-round pick, second baseman Philip Gosselin. The Charlottesville Daily Progress has the story:
Drafted in the fifth round with the 164th pick overall, Gosselin had informed the Braves of his demands, one of which involved completing his degree at Virginia. Atlanta, which has indicated that Gosselin will play second base, wasted little time in sealing the deal. "The Braves were great," said Gosselin, who hit .382 and set a single-season program record with 100 hits. "They were willing to give me school, which was big. "They treated me fairly with the signing bonus and all that kind of stuff. They are a good organization, so it moved pretty quickly." Gosselin, who led Virginia with 11 home runs, 22 doubles and 163 total bases, will be the one moving fast now. He departs today to start his professional career. "They are letting me skip rookie ball in Danville, so I am heading to Rome, Ga., and the South Atlantic League," said Gosselin, who will join former Cavalier left-handed pitcher Jeff Lorick on the roster. It's nice to see a kid who sees finishing school as being as important as signing to play professional baseball. This makes me think that Gosselin has a good head on his shoulders. The Braves have now signed all but one of their top-10 picks; only third-round pick Joe Leonard has not yet signed.
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Good news.
I like that he’s going to finish school, too. Hopefully he can get that knocked out in the next couple years during the off-season.
I also like how quickly we’ve signed just about everyone we’ve drafted in the first 30 rounds. Really, Leonard is the only one left from the top 30 who isn’t considered a very tough sign. Hopefully we can nab Leonard soon and focus our negotiating attentions on Stefan Sabol and Zach Alvord.
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by Jacob Peterson on Jun 22, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Leonard, Sabol, and Alvord are all that remain in the top 20...
and from reading some articles, everything sounds like Leonard is only a matter of time.
Other than guys over 30, only 6 remain unsigned, that seems like a higher than normal rate, with plenty of time to sign a few more…
3 Joe Leonard
17 Stefan Sabol
18 Zach Alvord
22 Jordan Buckley
24 Evan Danieli
29 Reid Roper
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 22, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think Sabol and Alvord will sign
but it will be August.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 22, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gosselin, eh?
Ain’t that the man what had all them kids with that blonde?
by Thrashy Thrashy on Jun 22, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, he is gonna have a new reality show about him trying to make it as a minor league baseball player.
Alone in the world of the little CatDog...
by bwellnjonesco on Jun 22, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
When is he scheduled to graduate?
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he was a junior...
so possibly not for a while, depending on how he handled summer school, etc.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I thought. It seems odd for a guy to be going back to school for a full year after signing a pro contract, so I thought he might be finishing this summer or something.
I’m assuming he can’t play college ball now that he’s signed a pro contract, correct?
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Maybe if he played football, but he certainly can't play baseball for UVa and us...
and with online courses and short sessions, it might be easier to go back to school now as opposed to 10-20 years ago. I’ve wondered just how that would work for a minor league player considering summer is obviously out, and spring training starts before a spring semester would end, and the season extends into a fall semester. Maybe UVa uses the quarter system and he can work in a winter quarter, plus online and correspondence courses. But if he’s dedicated to it, I don’t see why he couldn’t finish his degree, eventually. Obviously he won’t be finishing at the time he would have if he chose to play his senior season.
A few of the guys I’ve known have just done fall semesters, working around the late start with their professors by getting the assignments online. It usually helps if they have a buddy or a girlfriend who can take the class at the same time to fill them in on some of the in-class stuff they miss out on.
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He has 29 credits left...
So that’d be 2 full semesters. He’s enrolled for this fall, so he’ll hopefully graduate after next fall.
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by Jacob Peterson on Jun 22, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Does that include this summer?
Is he taking classes this summer even?
Thanks either way, that’s good to know.
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Good to see that he has signed,I thought he wouldn’t but maybe I read that about another one of their draftees.Any news on Leonard and his intentions to sign.
by LakersMania on Jun 22, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions
As I said above, sounds like a matter of time...
He, Brownsten and Gosselin were named to ABCA/Rawlings All-East Region (Leonard and Brownsten 1st team, Gosselin 2nd). In the release from Pitt, they call Leonard a “former” player, so it seems like they aren’t expecting him to return.
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/061610aaa.html
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 22, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s entirely possible he’s already signed, but wanted some time off between the college season and starting his pro career, so the Braves are delaying the announcement.
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Could be...
and that would give us our top 17 picks all in tow. Without Leonard and with Gosselin, we have 16 of our top 17 signed and on a roster (although PG has yet to join Rome) and 19 of our top 22 (Leonard, plus Sabol and Alvord). Do the Braves normally sign this high a % of their top 20 picks?
Just looking at the top 20 rounds, in 05 they signed 17 of 23 (3 were draft and follows), in 06 they signed 21 of 24, in 07 they signed 17 of 21, in 08 they signed 17 of 21, and in 09 they signed 17 out of 19.
So in the last 5 years, out of their picks in the first 20 rounds, they’ve signed 89 out of 108, which is 82%. So with 18 out of 21 so far, or 86%, yes, they’re a little ahead of their recent average.
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But they've been focused on highly-signable drafts for the past five years ...
… if not a little longer; gone (for the most part) are the high-bonus high-school players like Wainwright, McBride, Francoeur, et cetera who dominated the top ten rounds of Braves drafts from the late-1990s/early-2000s.
But, without the capacity to take low-risk fliers on community-colleges draft-and-follow kids, this modification of draft-strategy makes a lot of sense.
those guys were all signable. I think the braves worry less about the money and more about the assurance that they’ll sign the guy. All the guys you listed are georgia kids and I’m sure them being fans factored into their signing. I think the braves are just less interested in the guys that tell them they don’t have a problem going back to school unless you shell out big money.
Well, Francoeur threatened to play DB at Clemson ...
But my point was less about signability in a pure sense, and more about allocation of resources. Over the past five years, they’ve drafted much more heavily from the college ranks – where they have more leverage in terms of initial contract – and gambled less on high-school players that, despite being “signable,” usually require larger contracts/bonuses (Minor’s somewhat large contract notwithstanding).
Moreover, I think this very likely correlates with the proscription of the draft-and-follow policy, which the Braves used both to great effect, and much more than most other MLB teams.
Any kid that was accepted to UVA will have a good head on his shoulders. Good to see him appreciate the opportunity to get that kind of education.
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He is an athlete...
Not exactly competing on the same level in the admissions department.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jun 22, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
But if you know anything about UVA, it is incredibly tough to get in, and I’m not sure if Baseball players carry as much weight with admissions as Football and Basketball. My nephew was accepted 2 years ago, but took a $55,000 per year free ride to Vandy instead. Virginia is a pretty serious education. For this guy to want to finish tells me he understands the opportunity he has had.
Heyward is pretty good
I'm very well aware of UVa's academic standards.
I got rejected there when I got into Vandy, UNC, Emory, and Tulane with a nice offer myself. I’m just saying that any non-Olympic sport’s going to have relaxed standards.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jun 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
depends
honestly, i think we’ll go heavily on Sabol (I’ve read Kemp ceiling for him) and Alvord (Chase Utley ceiling) vs. Leonard. We signed Cunningham for 3B, and Leonard would be great, but stocking the low-minors with an infield of Salcedo and Alvord and Betancourt and and OF of Sabol and RSF starts to look VERY promising.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 22, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If we were to sign Sabol and Alvord
Sabol would immediately be moved to the OF and Alvord wouldn’t play SS in our system since we have plenty now after this draft 2B would be a perfect fit for him.
Great
Good to see we haved signed almost everyone and quickly so they can start playing immediately
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