How Good Has Troy Glaus Been For The Braves?
by Scott Coleman on Jun 17, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
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Back in December, the Braves' front office certainly wasn't a pleasant topic on message boards across the internet. They had just traded their ace from 2009 for Melky Cabrera and two talented, yet young prospects. At the time, most believed they had failed to bring in the "big bat" that the offense had desperately been missing since Mark Teixeria was traded to the Angels. Two months of the offseason had passed by and the Braves still hadn't made any moves to significantly improve their offense.
Then, on January 5th, the Braves signed Troy Glaus to a 1 year deal. At the time, most fans liked the move, but they felt Glaus was simply just another bridge player to get to Freddie Freeman. Would Glaus contribute for the Braves in 2010? Probably. Was he the "big bat" that everyone expected the Braves to land that would get them back to October baseball? 99% of fans would respond with a resounding "NO." Most figured Glaus would help, but Frank Wren would have to sign or trade for a big-time power hitting outfielder.
Oh, how we were all so wrong.
Coming into Wednesday, here is a look at Glaus' current stat line:
That's impressive. Really impressive. To be honest, 85% of the teams in baseball would rather have that production from their 1st baseman than the production they're receiving from their player.
And in case you had forgotten, Troy signed for $1.75MM as a base salary, with up to $2.25MM in incentives. The Braves are getting more production from their 1B than most teams in the league, and they're paying him no more than 4 million dollars. That's pretty neat.
After the jump, a comparison between Glaus and some of the National League's best 1st basemen...
If someone asked you who the best five 1st basemen are in the NL, there are few obvious answers: Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez and Ryan Howard. Besides those three, a strong case could be made Prince Fielder and Joey Votto to round out the top 5. You could also make a case for Adam Dunn and Derek Lee (based on previous season's performance), so let's include those two as well.
First, let's compare their stat lines for the season as of Wednesday, June 16th:
This obviously isn't an exact science, but let's compare these seven players using a few basic offensive stats: Batting Average, OBP, SLG %, HRs, RBI and BB/K ratio.
This is how the scoring will work: If you have the highest batting average, you get 8 points. If you have the second highest batting average, you get 6 points. If you're third you get 5. And so on. Now to the scoring:
Batting Average:
Pujols (8), Votto (7), Gonzalez (6), Dunn (5), Glaus (4), Howard (4), Fielder (3), Lee (2)
OBP:
Pujols (8), Votto (7), Fielder (6), Gonzalez (5), Glaus (4), Dunn (3), Howard (2), Lee (1)
SLG %:
Dunn (8), Pujols (7), Votto (6), Gonzalez (5), Glaus (4), Fielder (3), Howard (2), Lee (1)
HRs:
Gonzalez (8), Pujols (8), Dunn (7), Fielder (6), Glaus (6), Votto (6), Howard (5), Lee (4)
RBI:
Glaus (8), Pujols (8), Gonzalez (7), Howard (6), Votto (5), Dunn (4), Fielder (3), Lee (2)
BB/K Ratio:
Pujols (8), Gonzalez (7), Fielder (6), Votto (5), Lee (4), Glaus (3), Dunn (2), Howard (1)
If you add it all up (maximum 48 points):
1. Pujols - 47
2. Gonzalez - 38
3. Votto - 36
T-4. Glaus - 29
T-4. Dunn - 29
5. Fielder - 27
6. Howard - 20
7. Lee - 14
So accoring to my "scientific" method, Troy Glaus has been the 4th most valuable 1B in the league. Think about that for a second. Even with the awful April that Troy had, he's been the 4th best 1B in the National League. Better than Prince Fielder. Better than Ryan Howard. Better than Adam LaRoche, Pablo Sandoval and Derek Lee. Better than every first baseman in the league besides Pujols, Gonzalez, Votto and Adam Dunn. That's awesome.
Now, let's take a look at the their salaries for the 2010 season*:
Glaus - $1.75MM
Pujols - $16MM
Gonzalez - $4.85MM
Howard - $19MM
Fielder - $11MM
Votto - $550,000 (pre-arb)
Lee - $13MM
Dunn - $12MM
*Note: These are just the base salaries. Glaus has up to $2.25MM in incentives in his deal for PAs in 2010. Most of these guys also have similar performance-based incentives in their contract for All Star Game appearances, MVPs, PAs, etc.
With the exception of Joey Votto who's still at the league minimum, Glaus is nearly $10MM cheaper than any of the other top 1B in the league. It's one thing if you have good numbers. It's another thing if you have good numbers and you're playing for "cheap". $4MM isn't anything to laugh at, but when you see Glaus totally out-performing Ryan Howard and his $19MM paycheck, it's extra special.
To conclude, we've seen it all from Troy in 2010. We saw him wrongfully booed off the field in April. We saw him win MLB's MVP for the month of May. We've seen him chug around the base paths and wonder if there's truly a man slower than Garett Anderson and we've seen him drive in 28 runners with 2 outs.
Though despite the inconsistencies, I think it's safe to say Braves Nation can safely say this: Troy Glaus has been the man in 2010. Without him, I'm not sure where the Braves would be.
Way to go Troy. And way to go Frank Wren for signing the NL's Comeback Player of the Year.
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“Deploy Troy! That’s a football term right?” Haha Community reference… Anyway I f’ing love Troy Glaus right now…
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Jun 17, 2010 8:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Braves revolving door at 1st should be no more
Let’s make sure Troy is back in 2011. The guy can play with the best of ’em.
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 17, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions
Damn straight! Resigning him means there’s no need to rush Freeman, take the pressure off, the kid’s only 20 years old anyway
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by HansonManCrush on Jun 17, 2010 8:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As an older free agent...
you’d think he’d go for the longest guaranteed deal, and that may not be us. As great as he’s been,we’d ideally look for him on a one or two year deal, and that may not be enough to get him (ala LaRoche last year).
I would try to lock him up thru 2012, if it was me
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 17, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
no god damnit
glaus is most likely playing below average D at first right now.
and he had shoulder surgery last year. the man is a great hitter but no longer has the tools to play 3B.
by kbertling353 on Jun 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
FW knew something other GM's didn't, you can tell by the smile.
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 8:22 AM EDT reply actions
Love the smirk on Wren’s face – is it"F You guys, I know what I’m doing" or “Holy Sh** I hope this works”?
by CharlotteChop on Jun 17, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its a combo of “holy sh**, even I didn’t know I could pull this off!”
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Jun 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think its F you guys..and I can't believe I just signed a 20-25+ HR threat for at the most $4 mil.
By the way..seriously FW, lock glaus up for another year or two..freeman needs some more time possibly..and If he does become ready then we have some direction and options at first that we can go, unlike before with the stop gap/bridge 1B. That and I don’t want to have to change my moniker again next year to SidFreeman lol..
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Completely agree, lock him up. With Chipper’s imminent retirement, hopefully a new CF, potentially having to replace the LF spot also the Braves will have a lot of new faces in the lineup next year. Would be worth a premium just to have him back to stabilize the middle of the order and the faces in the clubhouse. This team seems to click personality wise and will need a leader like Glaus, who seems to lead with his play on the field. Throwing Freeman in the fire at age 21 with so many new faces will be alot to ask if the expectations are that he will have to carry the middle of the lineup.
by CharlotteChop on Jun 17, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
not to mention hinske..
complete team player…re-sign him at the end of the season as long as he keeps it up..tired of the greg norton/professional hitter bs types off the bench.
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man I love Hinske, he played at Arkansas while I was in school there. Have always followed him – and am so glad he is a Brave; hope he sticks around. He seems to really like playing in Atlanta, especially now that he is the starter against RHP.
by CharlotteChop on Jun 17, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
you do realize Greg Norton was the best pinch hitter is basbeall in 2008 for the Braves. and he was still a valuable hitter (I will use the term hitter generally, here) last year as he had a 330 OBP (don’t get me wrong he didn’t hit well, but he was able to contribute a little bit). So we could be thinking that Hinske is Greg Norton circa 2008, and then next year hate his guts.
I just want you to remember these statements. because in a year, when Hinske or Glaus is struggling and showing why we were able to sign Glaus for less than 2M and the fact that Hinskehas played on three different teams the last three years.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Not when he played, "circa 2008"...
the man kind of has a point. When Norton was playing semi-regularly, he was very productive. Then last year he was getting 5 or 6 at bats in a month, and really struggled. If Hinske went from semi-regular to exclusively pinch hitting with less than a dozen starts on the year, you’d probably see his production nose dive too.
I'm probably wrong..
I just didn’t like norton, even in 08. I really didn’t like FUGA..I mean who did..
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know why I didn’t liek Norton either, other than he wasn’t very good. I don’t think it’s a coincedence that he played for seven consecutive 88 loss or worse teams until the 09 Braves. Meaning, as a regular, he wasn’t a good enough position player to contribute to winning. He was good as a PH until 2009.
Hinske PH stats aren’t as good except for this year. He is hitting .300+ as a PH this year and contributing solidly. He will most likely regress toward his career means next year, but there is something that GMs like about the guy and it may just be the clubhouse/ winning attitude he brings.
by CharlotteChop on Jun 17, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Team player to me is important..
makes everyone else around you better, and when that happens and your in the order with good hot hitters..then your game is elevated. Just one word.. Chemistry.
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand your point..but every players a chance..
norton was how old when he played for us? just saying..
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
All 3 of those teams went to the World Series FYI.
The worst of the best teams in baseball are probably still better than our other options…
God typed "iddqd" before creating Jason Heyward.
He still only has 9 doubles /Sanchez’D
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
Tied for 2nd worst...
seriously though, I wonder how those numbers look if you take out his rough April. Since May 1, Glaus is quite possibly the most valuable player in baseball.
I agree, a hell of a signing by FW in the offseason for a great bargain. Of course we were not sure which Glaus we were going to get, the injured 2009 version or the healthy 2008 version. i’m glad to see that we got the 2008 version.
Hmm, I wonder if Freeman can play 3B???
Freddie did actually play 5 games at 3B when he was 17 for the Gulf Braves in Rookie ball…I wonder if they would ever think of swapping him over to 3rd again to be Chipper’s replacement. He has great hands, seems pretty quick to the ball from what I’ve seen and he used to be a pitcher so he has a good arm.
my thoughts edzachary..but I saw him play first at a b-ham barons
game last year..and he literally did the splits to hold onto first and stretch for the ball..his 1B skills are mad..haven’t looked at any stats but what I saw I loved..but I’m up for 3B if he can..to me thats a bigger void to fill than 1B..
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw Clint Sammons play third for Mississippi at the infamous “Philip Wellman grenade” game a few years back. That was awesome. Wellman, i mean, not Sammons at third.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
As much as I love Clint, he doesn’t hit enough to play anywhere in the pro’s on a regular basis. I’m not sure how you got to Sammons when I was talking about Freeman. :-)
I’ll answer your question, because it has been answered a bunch of times already, and you have missed it (this may sound douchy, but its not intended that way)…
Freeman can’t play 3B. If the Braves thought he could play 3B they would have left him there and then allowed him to switch to 1B if they needed him to. As was mentioned he only played 17 games as a 3B in the Gulf Coast League and didn’t play there since. He is a very good defensive 1B, but he can’t play 3B. He is too big and deliberate with his actions.
Our resident minor league aficionado, CB has said on numerous occasions he is really pigeonholed at 1B. although I personally think he could be moved to LF if we found a 1B that was better than him.
It’s kind of a shame too, his bat would play a lot better at 3B than at 1B (not a slight against him, but his power still hasnt shown itself in games yet consistently, although seeing as he is 20 there is really no reason to be concerned about it yet). But there’s still time for his bat to improve above its current high level and show why he is considered to be a legit power threat
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I doubt he could play LF either. Watching him have to run that much would be painful.
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Freddie was a 3B in HS, but I’m sure if the Braves felt he could play there regularly he’d be playing there. It’s a much more valuable position that 1B so it would only make sense. By not playing him there the team is basically saying, he doesn’t have what it takes to play 3B. But, fortunately, he’s an outstanding defender at 1B.
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I bet a buddy of mine $5 that Glaus hits at least 25 homers this year; wish I had upped that bet.
-Yellow Jackets, Braves, Falcons, Hawks, and Thrashers fan!
Not related..but just checked the probables for KC
D-lowe Friday, Med’s saturday..no one listed yet for sunday..I’ll be at the Saturday game excited to see meds taking the mound against greinke, that kid truly is a BALL PLAYER, I mean look at his start in the Dodgers series jeeez..got great seats too..uber excited! Absolutely been too busy to get over to any games this year..live in North Alabama.
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions
Should be KK on Sunday. Bobby said he would “absoulutely” make his next scheduled start.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
wellll..it is the royals..
so maybe 1st win? if he doesn’t have a good start against them..I can’t see any possible way he can be sent out for his next start..lol
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The Good Pitchers Who Have Legitimate Reasons to Hate Everything and Puppies game!
I’m amazed this is happening. I don’t think we’ll see a concentration of misery like this again unless the Phils play the Orioles.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
With his luck, KK will match against Greinke.
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Good write up MVH. I have been preaching for weeks that we need to try and re-sign Glaus now. I still think if we dangle 2-3 yrs at $6-8 mil in front of him, we can lock him up. He is 32 now, so he would be 35 or 36 at the end of the contract(depending on when his birthday is) He is definitely the bargain of the year. If Chipper does retire, there will be some extra money to put towards this contract. We will also need a 3B. Either Troy can move back to third, if his shoulder will allow for thisor Freeman can switch, if we don’t get another #B for the short term. If hipper stays on at third, Glaus can play first and let Freeman develope some more.
I just think if troy's shoulder was really a problem..
he wouldn’t be hitting as well as he has been..JMHO.
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Another one of Wren's great moves
Remember when we all wanted Dayton Moore to take over for JS?
R.I.P Jazz #6
Who knows what Dayton Moore could do with resources, from money to a good scouting department.
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in the cellar.....
is where the braves would be without Glausosaurus…he is the best player on our team this year not named martin. incredible pick up.
Can I just say...I LOVE that photo of Troy at the top
Spot ON article Scott, nice job.
Rec’d.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
He looks like he’s thinking “did I go to Wendy’s twice yesterday?”
LOL
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He’s doing the same thing I do every time I drive up for a game:
“OK, 35 was Niekro, 44 was Aaron, 31 was Mathews…No, no, 31 was Maddux, Mathews was 41…”
I’m not the only one?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 17, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice article but...
Where is your pate t Glaus pick “Haters love me”. That pic always crack me up. I think we should resign him but I still want to wait to see if he can maintain this performane in Sept/Oct the big months.
by romone_braves91 on Jun 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
There are perfectly good value metrics available without cherry-picking traditional stats like it’s the 1980s. Glaus is currently 8th among NL 1B in WAR. If you want to strictly look at offense he’s 6th in wOBA. If WPA is your thing he’s 9th in that. He’s also posting a .333 BABIP when his career BABIP is .283.
Obviously he was a great signing given how little he’s making, but you really have to stretch your definition if you want to call him one of the best 1B in the league and he’ll probably drop off some when his BABIP comes down.
i completely agree, but would like to add that even with that regression he is still worth well over 1.75M or even the 4M with all the incentives…if/when he regresses to his career BABIP he will still have good power and good patience at the plate…so we wont be killed by regression.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Should have checked the comments before doing the research
Just about to post something similar with metrics. Good work. Like you said, he’s certainly exceeding what you should expect for a player for that price.
by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Jun 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
question. do you also go around telling kids that they are adopted and that santa isnt real?
by carebearmafia on Jun 17, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
This comment is more useful than the article.
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 17, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If you haven't noticed by now
I’m not much of an advanced stats kind of guy. Feel free to write your own post though.
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by Scott Coleman on Jun 20, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Troy,
I’m sorry that I said “F*** YOU” so many times earlier in the season, when all signs pointed to you being a GIDP Cyborg. I thought you were a shell of your former self, and boy, are you proving me wrong. But, I’ve never been so happy to be wrong.
Take Care
xoxoxo
-Cracker
Troy to 3b next year
Assuming Chipper retires. He won a gold glove there awhile back, and even as big and slow as he’s gotten, he can’t possibly be worse defensively than Chipper has been this year.
Then you have 1b open for Freddie if he’s ready, or Hinske if not.
I’ve always been a fan of Glaus since he came up with the Angels. I was so happy when the Braves picked him up on the cheap. Coming off his injury, you knew it would take some time for him to get his swing back, and even then it wasn’t a guarantee. It’s great for us that he has found his stroke again.
And he’s playing a fine first base too from what I’ve seen. I’ve been impressed so far.
I love Troy, would like to see him stick around just becaues Freddie is still just a kid. However, I don’t think he could play 3rd base anymore. He is fine at 1st, leave him there where it seems to be working out good for him. Everytime I hear anyone talk about having a player change positions I always think about poor Chipper getting shipped out to LF. Anyway, awesome write up! As always Sir, ya do a great job! So, does anyone else have a thought about Troy’s ability to move back to 3rd? Do y’all just think I’m off? Lemme know!:)
Just a thought...
Anyone other than me think the best move for next year, if Chipper DOES retire, would be Prado to 3rd, Infante (or free agent pickup) to 2nd, and…wait for it… Carl Crawford in Left?!?! With the production the Yankees have been getting from their outfield this year it doesn’t look like they’ll need/want to get into bidding for him… I mean, the guy is a straight up STUD, and who better to replace an icon than with a guy with an iconic skillset?
How good has Troy Glaus been?
Very
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 17, 2010 11:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dippy Homerism
Dippy ranking.
There are 10 MLB 1B having better VORP years than Glaus.
- is better than average, and better than expected, and excellent for the price.
What’s next, Heyward is the best NL rookie by ignoring Jaime Garcia, or Heyward is the best offensive rookie by ignoring Brennan Boesch?
Go Braves! but keep it real, and stop cheapening your analysis.
Top 11 1B:
Justin Morneau
Miguel Cabrera
Kevin Youkilis
Albert Pujols
Adrian Gonzalez
Paul Konerko
Joey Votto
Adam Dunn
Billy Butler
Aubrey Huff
Troy Glaus
welcome
buzz killington
We have traded away great players for less than nothing and let Texierra walk away, and much much more so pray that Hayward is sent from God and that his energy can ignite the veterans and cause the younger players to hustle more and play winning baseball...
Ahhhhh....
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"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 17, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was ranking Glaus vs. other NL 1B's
So his rankings only had him two spots behind where VORP ranks him. Putting those AL 1B’s in there really cheapened your dippy argument, I think.
I like the random “1.” you inserted into your post, to make it appear you had a point. However, the rest of your post should looked like this.
1. Sign Glaus
2. Play him at first
3. ??
4. Profit!!!!!!
ucwutididthere? It makes about as much sense as yours did.
Shouldn't Brent Clevlen get a shot in LF before...awww, forget it!
Hahahaha OWNED
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by MBL1 on Jun 17, 2010 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I <3 you!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 17, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
brennan boesch doesn’t even have enough at bats to qualify for statistical leader boards. We’ll see at the end of the year who’s better. Garcia has let go a ton of walks and has stranded over 84% of baserunners. He’s due for some regression.
I wonder what kind of rookie season Heyward would be having if he was 25 like Boesch.
...fuck lucky charms
by VivaLosBravos on Jun 17, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaaaaand _________ goes the dynamite.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 17, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, it’s funny that you mentioned AL players in a “Top NL 1B” discussion. If you use your list, and take only the NL players, Glaus is #5 – which is only 1 less than what MVH’s traditional comparrison showed us.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 17, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Great article.
I hope we can resign him. I just worry about paying him too much or signing him for too many years.
Braves Win! Braves Win!
One of these days when I'm bored I'm going back to an old article (probably a post-game recap towards the end of his slump) just to see who actually had faith in Glaus.
And I have a feeling that it’s only going to be me, pac, and justin.
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, the phrase "he's actually ripping the ball pretty well but it's just not dropping" is burned into my mind.
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 17, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I always thought that if he got his timing
he was absolutely gonna crush some fastballs..and in the month of may he found it.
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by SidGlaus on Jun 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
excuse me?
http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/4/25/1442835/stop-worrying-the-braves-will-be-ok
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by Scott Coleman on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That's wild
I just went back to that very thread, I posted that Glaus deserves more time in it. HEYJUDE has defended Glaus all along as well.
Heyward is pretty good
Thanks for getting my back.
I was about to explode when I read the above comment. I recognized Troy’s abilities in ST, and took all kind of crap for always supporting Glaus, even when he was not playing up to his abilities. I remember you doing so also:)
Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."
So would it be considered a lack of support,...
or whatever someone wants to call it for pointing out that through April, while he was making good contact the contact he was making wasn’t being productive? Just wondering where people are drawing the line, because while I wasn’t among those saying definitively that “Glaus will rebound and be a great player”, I don’t consider what I was saying as bashing the guy.
I was going off the top of my head, but now that you mention it, I do seem to remember you pointing out that his BABIP was what was killing him several times.
Shouldn't Brent Clevlen get a shot in LF before...awww, forget it!
That wouldn't have been me...
maybe Beard or another, but certainly not me.
I was the one saying that while he was making good contact, his deep balls were far too often being caught at the warning track and that his hits were nothing but singles. I liked his contact, but wondered if his power may have been shot in the shoulder (hence balls that came to the track instead of going over) and that while singles are nice, they weren’t what he was brought here to do. Kind of acknowledging that while he had some good signs (the quality contact), there were bad ones too (the lack of extra base hits and fly balls falling just short).
ah, this is why I shouldn’t rely on my failing memory.
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How DARE you, sir, give Sanchez credit for something I did???
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 17, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember myself, Beard, pac, hobbs, mvhs, and justin for certain, and I remember CB and I talking about it at a game in Norfolk near the end of April and he was still positive about Glaus. I’m pretty sure 10-4 and several of the lovely ladies of TC like NCChopper, Jude, and ’baker remained supportive.
It was mostly the trolls that only show up when things are going badly that were all over him. There were plenty of smartass comments made in game threads jokingly, but when the trolls crawled out from under their bridges, the “old guard” around here was still defending him.
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I'm late to catching up today and just now seeing this.
Thanks Rhyno and Justin for remembering us “lovely ladies”.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I always supported Glaus. Maybe wasn’t as outspoken as someone like you were, but I was always behind him
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Add Jareth Cutestory to your list too, and I think you pretty much have it – although NCC and Jude were always on board, just not as, um…vocal as some of the rest of us.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 17, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This so This!
Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."
Reply fail to Rhyno18
Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."
That's what "true fans" do for one another :)
Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."
My reply fail is failing:(
Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."
That just means you can be an author on the site!
Just a little dig @ Ben:)
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We're adding another author next week!
He goes by Holty_Panthers_Fan
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would freakin quit. I would never ever ever ever ever come back…ok, maybe I would.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 17, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm getting worried about Freeman.
I think we should trade him now while he still has value, and re-sign Glaus for another year or two.
The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.
He’s 20 and in Triple-A. Not everybody can be Jason Heyward and dominate from the first day they’re no longer a teenager.
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 17, 2010 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The key to Freeman is “20 and in Triple-A”. He’s in the plans for 2011, but even if it takes another year and a half he’ll be young to the Major Leagues. I keep thinking about what CB posted that Freeman told him, AAA is tough. Trading him now would be a huge mistake. Give him time to devolop as a player, I don’t think we’ll be disappointed.
Heyward is pretty good
Early in the season, back in late April, Freddie was really quiet and reserved. He was doing well at AAA then, but I think he was still getting his feet under him. Having talked to him and seen him play last week, he appears much more comfortable at the AAA level than he did 2 months ago. He’s going to be fine. I still don’t want Glaus to go anywhere next year, but Freddie can handle it if that’s what ends up happening.
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I didn't get any "lazy journalism" co
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 18, 2010 12:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
your a lzy journalist you don’t even proofread your comments…that phrase just stops…
and you a horrible horrible person.
happy now…you got a lazy journalism comment
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
YES!
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 20, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't get any "lazy journalism" comments
I’m disappointed. And sorry for the “Justin” on the double post.
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 18, 2010 12:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
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