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The Braves Have Relied On "Unreliable" Players

Entering the 2010 season, the general consensus from the national media was that the Braves had certain question marks that would hold them back from becoming a serious contender. Some publications had them doing well to very well, but more often than not the Braves were labeled as at best a wild card contender. And as outsiders, their reasoning was actually valid.

The Braves had lost one of their best starters from the previous season in Javier Vazquez and did not make a big splash on the trade market. To fill the void left by Vazquez, the Braves turned to a starter who had thrown just 42.1 innings in 2009. They signed two relievers who had a combined age of 78 (one threw just 14.1 innings the previous season), a first basemen who played just 14 games the season before, and a bench player who got to the plate just 224 times in ’09.

The Braves offseason was interesting to say the least. With Adam LaRoche, Mike Gonzalez, and Rafael Soriano being replaced with Troy Glaus, Billy Wagner, and Takashi Saito, it was easy to doubt that the 87 win Braves from 2009 would take that step forward and push for playoff spot. Outside of Jason Heyward replacing the '09 right fielders, it did not seem like the roster was much improved.

Most who follow the Braves understood what they were trying to do and many of the moves were looked at with praise. Once the dust settled from the Vazquez deal, we realized that they were saving money in order to go after a multitude of pieces in the offseason and during the season rather than one big player, and that Arodys Vizcaino was now a top prospect in our system. Troy Glaus was picked up for under $2 million and when healthy, he has always produced. Billy Wagner and Takashi Saito were two veteran arms who understand how to pitch in pressure situations. With Soriano and Gonzalez pricing themselves out of the equation, grabbing these two relievers for this year seemed like a reasonable move considering the Braves other back-end options. Eric Hinske was picked up primarily to be a pinch hitter and with his ability to play all four corner positions, he could provide depth when the inevitable injuries occur.

More after the jump.

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With 2 months into the season, these acquisitions have turned from role players to key members and huge reasons for the team's success. Troy Glaus has supplied a majority of the team’s power since May began (9 HR, .556 SLG since May 1), Eric Hinske has the 14th highest OPS vs. right handed pitching in the majors with a minimum of 100 at bats, Billy Wagner has a 1.42 ERA with 13.5 strikeouts per nine innings, Tim Hudson has a 2.43 ERA with a 1.16 WHIP, and Takashi Saito has pitched to a 2.77 xFIP with 34 strikeouts to 8 walks in 24.2 innings. Although Saito is currently injured, he is expected to return when he is eligible to come off the disabled list.

Glaus’ and Hinske’s performances have masked the problems that the middle of the lineup has faced. Chipper Jones, Yunel Escobar, and Brian McCann are all on pace to post career low slugging percentages and have just 9 home runs between them. When you consider that these three along with Nate McLouth were probably the most reliable members of the offense coming into the season in terms of expected production, past production, and health, it puts things into perspective. The Braves haven’t just benefited from the newcomers’ production, they have relied on it.

The Braves are now calling another player up that many thought was just a minor league filler. Chris Resop had an abysmal 2008 with the Braves and saw just 18.1 Major League innings. Chris spent the 2009 season in Japan and was picked back up by the Braves prior to the start of 2010. Since being given another shot with the franchise, he has done nothing but dominate opposing hitters at triple-A. It is hard to put what we have seen from Resop at the Major League level behind us, but his stellar numbers at Gwinnett have to be respected. If Resop comes up and produces, it will only further enhance the notion that the Braves have been helped by players that nobody outside of Braves nation thought could produce.

If you would have told me before the season that Jair Jurrjens, Chipper Jones, Nate McLouth, and Yunel Escobar would be more or less non-factors mid-way through June, and the Braves would be in first place and 10 games above .500, I would have stopped valuing your opinions on baseball. It is simply absurd that some of these players have played so well and some of our more reliable players haven’t, yet the Braves have scored the second most runs and have the sixth best ERA in the NL. Maybe these players snap out of it and come back strong, and maybe the others come back down to Earth, but for the time being, the Braves are being carried by players who many deemed "unreliable" before the season. 

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Very well said, i love it i love it..

Its funny… Unfortunately I live in Phils country and back in April everyone would ask me if Atlanta still even had a team… Now they can’t deny the pure awesomeness that is Atlanta Braves baseball… So sweet

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by HansonManCrush on Jun 15, 2010 10:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Good job!

You’re fitting in nicely here. Its amazing we are where we are with all the mounting injuries and non production from such key players. Just imagine how good we’ll be if half these guys get going.

"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson

by 10-4 on Jun 15, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Great article

All of it is great, but it’s also worrisome to me how much we rely on these few players. Saito is down now, and while the bullpen has still performed well, his presence is certainly missed. What happens if Glaus or Hinske goes down? Or even Moylan? I really love this team, and I’m not trying to be a downer. This team has put together some great wins. But with JJ, Chip, Saito, and Omar ailing and Yunel, Mac, and McLouth struggling, I feel like the team is more fragile than we’d like to believe.

Just imagine what this team is capable of if just one of those struggling guys starts to really heat up to last season form.

by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Jun 15, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Good write up

This team is fragile but all-around team chemistry trumps an occasional slump by a player or two. Wren may or may have not been conscious of this during the off season, has constructed a team with great chemistry which is the essential element of a winning club at this point in a baseball season.

by bravesfan203 on Jun 15, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot Diaz

He didn’t start the season off very well before his injury, but he was a producer last season. Hard to believe we haven’t had his slugging vs. lefties.

by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Jun 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

its not always safe to assume regression to the mean….but I have to think at some point at least one of Chipper, McCann, and Escobar will right the ship…and return to their past form…this should allow us to offset the fall from grace from these guys…there is little out there to explain why McCann and Escobar have struggled…and there’s no reason to think that Glaus can’t continue what he’s done (his avg is probably a bit too high, and that will probably fall), and Hinske is doing what he has done for his career, been a very good bench player and a average to slightly above average starter (against RHP).

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Jun 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you on HInske and Glaus. I am pulling for Yunel to recover. Love his work out at short and appreciated his performance at the plate last year. He’s shown some flashes of recovery in the past couple of weeks. Chipper is battling bumps and bruises and at his age it’s nothing to dismiss. I know. But as to McCann’s troubles, there certainly is something to explain it; his vision. I don’t claim to have any intimate knowledge or complete understanding, but it’s there and he’s struggled with it in the past; at the major and minor league level. Sure hope he finds a resolution quickly, though. Can use him as a great backstop when facing those opposing right-handers. Ross has certainly filled in more than adequetly against left-handed pitching, and held his own against righties.

I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis

by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 15, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i meant nothing statistical to explain his struggles…or a change in his habits…like an increased flyball rate or and increased K %…

his vision is the same as it was last year when he wore glasses when he batted….so there shouldnt be any real difference

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Jun 15, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realize that you didn’t mean anything statistical to explain the change in McCann’s performance at the plate. I also didn’t realize that his vision was unchanged since last year or that you knew that as fact.

What I heard (and that could be incorrect) was that he had vision correction surgery again on one eye in the offseason, leading me to believe that not only had his vision had probably changed from the beginning of last season until the surgery, but it was most definitely different after.

I’m also aware that a lot of people that have vision problems, like me, see a change over time even without surgery. He’s had to adjust his his contacts and/or glasses numerous times over the years, in both the minor and major league levels, to allow him to properly see the pitches and hit properly. I’d be inclined to think that his vision has changed.

I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis

by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 16, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

what i meant is that last year he had problems with his vision after already having surgery, he tried contacts and went with glasses…thats the same thing he went through this year…he was able to adjust just fine last year, there’s no difference to his situation…obviosuly his eyes have changed or he wouldnt be having vision problems.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Jun 16, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, then I'm totally confused.

We agree then that he’s had vision problems in the past, he’s having them this year and he’s historically had problems finding the correct solution (ie., combination of surgery, contacts and/or glasses). So doesn’t that explain his recent hitting problems, just like in the past, until he and his doctor gets it straightened out?

Hopefully, due to his recent improvement, they may have.

I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis

by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really Good Article

But I think this team was bound to be really good before the All Star break. I an worried about the 2nd half of the season. Like you said the combined age of our closer and set-up is 78! Chipper is breaking down, MaCann is in a slump. I am happy we are doing well now, but I am very nervous about the 2nd half.

"I have to carry out another fine moment before I die."
-Tatsuya Kawajiri-

by Erich Vowell on Jun 15, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

From DOB on AJC

Just read on Atlanta Braves newspaper website that Chipper Jones to announce retirement at the end of this season. Truly the end of an era and a Hall of Fame career.

Not confirmed yet. Omar Infante would become starting 3B. Chipper would have a reduced role of f the bench

Kawakami is not absolute shit, but he isn’t any good either.

by Nova Scotia Steve on Jun 15, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

This is lighting up Twitter

For DOB’s sake, I hope he is right. Huge egg on his face if wrong.

by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Jun 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeh, I’ll kind of look dumb for writing an entire article on it on my blog as well. But it’s based on his communication with two sources so it’s an easy fix.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 15, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think DOB would recklessly tweet something like that unless he felt confident. Maybe one of his sources is Chipper.

by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Jun 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets move the Chipper convo here

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 15, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like he did with the Furcal situation a year and a half ago…

"Braves fans in the hizzy" -Boog
"Is that like the crib?" - Joe

by GwinnettBraves on Jun 15, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’ve always believed that when you wear the Tomahawk on your chest you play better baseball. I love the grit and determination of these guys. Even in our past few losses we have had chances to win them.

I’m nervous like others, but I always am. I think the all-star break will help. We will get some much needed rest. Plus we going to have JJ, Saito, and Diaz back soon. We are doing work day in day out. I love me some Braves baseball!!!

by TCfromDubVee on Jun 15, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree with EVeezy

im nervous as well that the braves might not do as well a they are..

by linux95 on Jun 15, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be nervous about that...

Sure, it’s always possible. If certain guys get hurt, they’ll be tough to replace. But, think of the depth we have. We have several good reliever prospects. We have 6 SPs (maybe 7 if you count Resop) once JJ gets back to form. We have 2 starting-caliber catchers. Hinske can fill in at 4 positions if needed; Infante can fill in at like 6. Diaz should be back in a month or so to solidify the OF. Practically every position has depth of quality players.

Then, of course, we have the possibility of midseason trading to fill any holes that do crop up. I think the odds are in our favor.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more. The production off the bench and the depth of the team (25-man roster and from Gwinett) has been a hallmark of this year’s team to date.

I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis

by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 15, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw, does anyone no the exact dates when Saito and Diaz are returning??

by linux95 on Jun 15, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

AJC claimed that Saito should be able to return on first day eligible, which would be the 19th. Diaz will hopefully return by July.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great Article
If you would have told me before the season that Jair Jurrjens, Chipper Jones, Nate McLouth, and Yunel Escobar would be more or less non-factors mid-way through June, and the Braves would be in first place and 10 games above .500, I would have stopped valuing your opinions on baseball.

lol…That would have been me my friend. It has been an usual season.

by romone_braves91 on Jun 15, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yunel has .420 wOBA in June, he is scorching hot right now.

by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Good read

I would also add Brooksy to the list. he’s come through big in several clutch situations. I also feel Ross deserves some love. He is a great defensive catcher, and has been good at the plate. We are lucky to have him as our back up catcher. He could be starting on several teams, imo.

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Several?

He could start on, well, nearly every team. At least based on wOBA + defense. He has a higher wOBA than all but 4 teams, and none of those teams have a starter who’s as good defensively as Rossy. Even being conservative, I’d say Ross would start for at least 20 teams. That’s how lucky we are to have him.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Jun 15, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

His contract runs up this year.

He great defensively and has some pop in his bat. He could start for almost every team like you said. Will we be able to resign him this offseason?

by Braves24 on Jun 15, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful. Unless they really want to keep him. I think it’s essential to have a good offensive backup catcher if your lineup relies on production from your starter. It’s hard to survive the gap between McCann and the Corky Miller types, but you can live with Ross, definitely. The arbitration eligible guys like Escobar and Jurrjens having bad seasons may help and if Chipper does retire his money freed would give us the opportunity to re-sign Ross. Again, it will come down to if they really want him back, and if they do they will have to give him a good deal of money.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Jun 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And on Ross to...

you assume he’d probably prefer to be a starter, and someone will likely offer him the money to start.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 15, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I'd go that far...

McCann
Mauer
Montero
Yadier Molina
Posada
Wieters

off the top of my head. Not sure how many others, but I’d say he’d be at worst sharing time on 15-20. But not over 20.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 15, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add Pudge...

Carlos Santana, Vmart/Varitek, Kurt Suzuki. That’s at least 10 teams he wouldn’t start for.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 15, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think Kurt Suzuki and Pudge are better, than Ross or just that he wouldn’t start for those teams

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Jun 15, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

both...

and I like Ross a lot, but I think we get a bit carried away with him. Pudge is having a pretty good year with the bat, and is a rock behind the plate. Suzuki is one of the more underrated players in the league imo, and a pretty good hitter. I think Ross is the best backup C in the league, and better than maybe half the starters, but to say he’d start for 20 teams I think is a bit much, especially when you consider other factors. Like with the Red Sox, I’d rather have Ross behind the plate than either Martinez or Varitek, but they are committed to those two guys and Martinez has no where else to play with Youklis, Beltre, and Ortiz needing at bats too.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 15, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are some solid Cs out there Swo, and as much as I love Ross and what he brings to the table...

there are a lot of good players out there too. Miguel Montero and Chris Snyder in Arizona is a good pair. Olivo and Iannetta in Colorado have done well. Suzuki has been very good for Oakland, and Pudge has been a great player for Washington. Mauer is the best in the league, and Yadier Molina is a decent bat and amazing fielder. His brother is kind of entrenched in San Fran and they have Buster Posey coming up hot. The Indians are rebuilding and just called up their top prospect in Santana. Ross is better NOW, but they’d start their future. Wieters is a sure starter, as is Posada when healthy. Paulino and Baker are a pretty good pair for Florida. The Angels have a good hitter in Napoli, and I’m spacing on the other guy who’s hurt but played well for them (Mathis?). Ryan Doumit is possibly the second best player for Pittsburgh. AJ Pierzynski is locked in for the White Sox, and the Cubs are committed to Soto. Kendall has been a damn workhorse for KC, and guys like Buck and Barajas are having solid seasons as well.

Basically, there are some pretty good Cs around the league, including our league best backup.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 15, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

I am of the same thinking. This is why I just said several. :)

Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."

by HEYJUDE on Jun 15, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just asking I would actually need to look at every team to decide how many it was…i would take ross over Pudge, but probably not Suzuki (although i think its close)…I agree on Montero/Synder and Olivo/Iannetta (although Oliva is a BABIP product right now, but he’s stilll good even with a regression)

but i guess i look at it differently…these are the teams i think he should/could start on
Brewers
White Sox (I know AJ is entrenched, but he has been declining severely and I dont like him so he gets a bad rap from me)
Reds (i think he is better than Hernandez, but not Hanigan)
Tigers
Mariners
Nationals

these 5 are teams where he would start everyday, and then when you look at teams like FLA, COL, LAA, TOR, NYM, KC, those are all teams where he could be a starter ish. by that I mean he would get about half the ABs…which is what some teams do nowadays…some sort of platoon.. they are platooning in FLA, COL and some other places and Ross is just as good as whoever they have for their RH platoon.

I dont think he is better, but i think abotu 15-20 teams will give Ross a chance to play much more than he has with the Braves…we expect over 500ABs from McCann everyyear and hope we don’t need to use our backup…he is being wasted to a certain extent here (obviously when we need him its great and I would love to resign him).

And when I say better, Im not talking a difference between Mauer and Kendall (only using him as example bc his OPS is shameful, although his defense is pretty good still)…its a small difference and could be homerism. I could also being falling in love with a small sample, as Ross has produced here in his limited role and might not suceed in a full time position.

On a final note, there’s no reason Ross couldn;t take Posada’s spot and POsada DH more, despite Posada not liking that idea

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Jun 15, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely 28 teams...

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Jun 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine what kind of tear this team could go on if the entire lineup spent a couple weeks all hitting together. A full lineup’s worth of production turns this team into a legitimate champion contender.

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Jun 15, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Scary good, right? Thanks. Now I have to go change my shorts…

I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis

by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 15, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good piece....

Although I do think the word “unreliable” might be out of place. I think unlikely would be more fitting for some of them. Hinske, especially.

I don’t think many people expected him to produce the way he has. I’m sure most felt he would be a valuable asset of the bench, but he’s been much more than that, so far.

by Diabolical BIZ on Jun 15, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Hate to speak for someone else, but the word unreliable being in question marks infers Ben was using the term in refernce to the media’s doubts about those players’ abilities, thus being a bit sarcastic, perhaps. At least that’s the way I took it.

I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis

by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 16, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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