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Bobby Cox Vs. Clint Hurdle

Bobby's decision to go with David Ross over Brian McCann last night in a close and late situation, and the parallels it draws from the 2008 all star game, in which Clint Hurdle seemingly forgot McCann was in fact voted in, and present in the dugout.

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Let me start by saying I am not a Bobby basher in any way (although I disagree with many of his decisions). He has created something special in Atlanta over the years, and I will be sad to see him go, but at the same time I am very much looking forward to some new blood on the bench as well. That said.......here we go.

The 2007 Rockies swept their first seven playoff games en route to winning the 2007 National League Pennant, which was the franchise's first-ever pennant. September was considered by many to be the best month of all-time for a ball club, after winning 21 of 22 games in the stretch to make it into the post season. Alright, so Clint Hurdle got lucky, caught lighting in a bottle despite his obvious shortcomings as a manager. As a result, he was in line to manage the National League all stars in 2008, and would attempt to end a string of what was then 11 or 12 consecutive AL victories ( that streak is still active and currently at 13 I believe).

It was the 2008 MLB All Starr game, the last that would ever be played in the old Yankee stadium. For those of you who don't recall, it was a 15 inning epic in which the pitching outlasted the hitting en route to yet another AL victory by a final score of 4 - 3. You would think that in a 15 inning All Star game, every player on both sides would see action (as in most cases they do even in 9 inning game). That was not the case in 2008, well at least not for Brian McCann. Clint Hurdle decided that Geovany Soto and Russell Martin would split the 5 at bats respectively. In those at bats, Soto was 0-2 with a K, and Martin was 1-3 with a single.

Let's take a look at the top of the 12th inning in that 2008 All Star game. Ludwick opened the inning with a walk, and Nate McLouth...........(oh yeah I forgot, he used to be good) followed with a bunt single. So now you have guys on 1st and 2nd, both with good speed and no outs in the 12th inning of a series that your side has lost for the last decade plus. The pitcher for the AL at the time was RH Joakim Soria of the Royals. It was at this crucial moment in the game, Clint Hurdle being the genius he is, though it would be a good idea to let the RH batting catcher Russell Martin bat for himself (he ultimately bunted the runners over) instead of sending McCann out to take a cut against the righty. I guess I can see why he leaves Martin in there if he was just going to bunt the runners over, but the next batter was Dan Uggla........and you can guess what he did (K).

Watching last nights game, all I kept thinking when Bobby decided to play it safe and send Ross out to bat with 1 out and the bases juiced in the 9th was DON'T PULL A CLINT HURDLE HERE BOBBY! Of course he did, and the rest is history.......GIDP, inning over, Braves lose. I know that McCann is also DP prone, but what better opportunity to let the young catcher that has been scuffling at the plate to open the season gain some confidence and get things gong in the right direction. I believe that is a situation where Bobby needs to send a message to Bmac. A message that instills confidence in him, and send it up there.

All I know is, in both cases, the respective decisions not to use McCann was a possible contributing factor that resulted in two close games being lost by a run.

As I said at the beginning, I am not a Bobby basher, although this decision does not sit well with me and I think it fair to be upset. As an interesting side note, the 2009 Rockies decided to part ways with the thick-headed Clint Hurdle after a horrendous start. The team responded by putting together a streak of 17 wins in 18 games in June, and going on to claim the NL Wildcard.

I don't know about you, but I feel the Braves need to win games NOW if they are going to have any chance at the postseason. So if I may offer my humble opinion to you Bobby, please drop the Hurdle act , and let's play this season to win as if it was our last......because for some of us , it is.

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David Ross ≠ Corky Miller

He’s a very capable hitting catcher. I’m really confused at why this is such a big deal for so many, I love Brian McCann as much as everyone else does here, but the fact of the matter is that he is slumping, Ross is a good player, and I can’t really question why so many are up in arms over this one at-bat.

Theoretically, if Jason Heyward could have been sent up to PH and GIDP’d instead of Ross, I certainly don’t think many would be this upset over it.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on May 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I Like Ross as well

I agree that Ross is one of the better hitting back up catchers in the game, and I like him at that position. In general, I always root for Ross when Bmac has the day off. In this case, I just felt like Bobby missed an opportunity to jump start Mac.

I mean, tie game, bases loaded, 9th inning, possible season turning point, on and on……..I mean if your not going to show Mac you have confidence in him in that situation, then when?

by JaeSlim on May 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Chipper takes a walk

in the 8th inning tonight, loading the bases with two outs, and then Charlie Manuel brings in JC Romero to face Brian McCann, and Bobby leaves him in.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on May 7, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean if your not going to show Mac Ross you have confidence in him in that situation, then when?

See what I did there?

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on May 7, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

pelican...

"Hey Honey, could you fist the salt over here?"

by GeneParmesan on May 9, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a nice luxury for the Braves to have a backup catcher who can swing the bat. I can recall an awful lot of years when that was not the case.

When you've said Jason Heyward, you've said it all.........

by UMDBHIK on May 7, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

If our 3-time All-star Silver Slugger catcher needs a PH to get confidence, we are in trouble.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on May 7, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I fully endorse this comment.

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s actually a 4-time All-star

"Dum spiro spero"

by Bravely going forward on May 7, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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