Braves Make Odd Player Personnel Move
by gondeee on May 21, 2010 11:29 PM EDT
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PrintAccording to David O'Brien of the AJC, after Friday night's game the Braves optioned Craig Kimbrel to triple-A Gwinnett and recalled reliever Christhian Martinez. Who? That's what I said.
We were talking in an earlier thread today about the Braves needing to recall Chris Resop at some point, he of the 2.03 ERA. Or Michael Dunn, who has a 0.47 ERA. But Christhian Martinez, the guy with the 5.04 ERA?
Martinez was taken off waivers from the Marlins back in early April, so he is on the Braves 40-man roster. Perhaps they want to see what they've got, but shouldn't that 5.04 ERA be a clue. He has also given up homeruns and multiple runs in each of his last two outings.
I will say this for him, he doesn't walk anyone. Only 4 walks in 25 innings.
The Braves likely sent down Kimbrel to get some more work. He wasn't being used a lot. Since being called up on the 5th of May, he has only made it into four games, the 7th and 8th, 15th, and 20th. So there was a lot of down time in between his outings. For him to develop into the closer we need him to for next season he needs to get all the innings he can this year, and getting them at triple-A should be just fine.
Still, a bit of an odd move. Should we go ahead and name this Martinez guy Manny Acosta part deux?
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Well, Bobby doesn’t use the last guy in the pen so we shouldn’t ever see him. Wren may just be bringing up the guy he cares the least about developing because he knows he’ll just rot on the bench or just throw junk innings.
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haha
This actually makes a twisted sort of sense.
I hope Martinez can give us 2-3 innings if we need him to in case of a blowout or extra-inning game. Other than that, I doubt he gets used at all.
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by Jacob Peterson on May 21, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I told you guys.
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by Scott Coleman on May 21, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Should we go ahead and name this Martinez guy Manny Acosta part deux?
Before his outing Thursday, I would have said we already had Acosta2.0 in Chavez.
Shouldn't Brent Clevlen get a shot in LF before...awww, forget it!
Only if he gets save opportunities
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by Jacob Peterson on May 21, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, alright. Acosta got save opportunities as well though. But until he receives save opportunities and then epically blows saves in June, he can still be Acosta3.0. Just trying to change up the Acosta stigma. He wasn’t the only reliever to come in and give up runs.
How is he at all like Acosta?
Acosta never had control at any point, while Martinez has walked 4 in 22.3 innings
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I can understand wanting Kimbrel to get more work in, but I really don’t see why this was the guy called up. Of course, to get Resop up, we would have had to make a move on the 40-man, so maybe that’s part of the reason. Dunn is already on the 40-man, but maybe they want him to keep getting regular work in too, and only want to use Dunn and Kimbrel if guys like Saito, EOF, or Moylan go down to injury. I really was hoping Resop would get the call up. He makes one hell of a left fielder.
Martinez didn’t seem very friendly the one time I’ve tried to talk to him. Maybe it was just me though.
Shouldn't Brent Clevlen get a shot in LF before...awww, forget it!
I don’t think Martinez knows much English, which is a big factor.
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Makes perfect sense
Kimbrel has not been needed of late, send him down to get some regular work.
Bring up Martinez for mop up work if needed, otherwise let him sit.
It’s a shame Bobby can’t just use Kimbrel instead of using Saito on three consecutive days. At some point Saito and Moylan are going to tire.
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I thought Bobby was doing a pretty good job with Saito
Of course then he pitches him three consecutive games, with all too predictable results.
by dutchschultz on May 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Moylan is getting these 3-6 pitch outings. that won’t tire him out.
by Braves Biceps on May 22, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez for Oswalt!
makes perfect sense for the Astros.
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by elevenforbraves on May 22, 2010 7:22 AM EDT reply actions
We gotta be about to deal one of these damn pitchers....
Lowe would be obvious if we could. But with the way things are going and JJ’s injury, a reliever makes the most sense. Chavez, EOF (with Dunn excelling), Resop, among others could all be wanted by someone with bullpen problems like Arizona.
Who would we get for one of these pitchers?
It seems to me we need another quality starter. Are any available? We do have Jo-Jo stretching out in AAA, as an emergency starter. We also have Minor tearing up AA. I can see him at Gwinnett at some point this year and possibly getting the call in an emergency.
huh?
Another quality starter? We essentially have 2 aces in Hanson and Hudson. Lowe & KK are pitching better as of late and Medlen is filling in great as #3.
We are fine in the SP department. We can’t have a rotation of aces. I’m sure a lot of ppl here would love for us to deal for Oswalt and Cliff Lee but we don’t need them.
by drumzalicious on May 22, 2010 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like our roster as is unless someone suffers a long term injury...
so any deals right now, I’d think we want prospects in return more than players who’d join the MLB roster.
this actually pisses me off
If Bobby had given Kimbrel more innings he would been sharper than he was pitching every 5 days which would have given us 5 great relievers to choose from in later innings.
The decision to bring up another long man makes entirely no sense to me as we already have 2 in Chavez and Venters. I feel like instead of them bringing up someone who they don’t mind rotting on the bench then the FO should have just had Bobby put Kimbrel in more games.
by drumzalicious on May 22, 2010 10:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I suppose the game situations have dictated going with the veterans as opposed to putting Kimbrel in. I do think pitching either Wags or Saito 3 days in a row is asking for trouble, especially with Moylan in the mix. But 8-2 over the last 10 games must mean Bobby is making some right decisions.
You can’t really tell how well bobby is using the bullpen over 10 games. It is August and September that we will hopefully need Saito and Wagner pitching well without a ton of innings on their arms.
I, too hope that Saito and Wagner don’t have a ton of innings on their arms come August and September. I have been advocating using Moylan in the 8th/9th inning mix from Spring Training. My rationale being that there were going to be a lot of close games this year and that troika would save wear and tear on all 3 of them. We’ve got the arms to pitch the 6th & 7th if necessary, saving 2 of these 3 for any given day.
Christhian Martinez
The guy hasn’t pitched since Wednesday, so he’s ready in case KK or Medlen get knocked out early this weekend. A starter most of his career, Martinez can step right into the long relief role open since Medlen’s promotion to the rotation.
Martinez is an older rookie, because of Tommy John surgery several years back. He did quite well as a starter in AA last year and has a fine K-BB ratio.
I think Resop will continue to start regularly in AAA (and Minor in AA or perhaps soon in AAA), ready for a recall if any more of our starters go down. You don’t want either of those guys being used infrequently in the Atlanta bullpen, any more than you do Kimbrel.
The move makes sense on paper, and hopefully by the time the Phillies come to town a week from Monday we’ll have a better idea if Martinez is ready to face top major league talent.
Here is Martinez's Minor League Baseball Splits.com page:
http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?pl=450852
An FIP of 3.07 is pretty damn good
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0.029 AVG against lefties..hmm..
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by bwellnjonesco on May 22, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
woah, i thought that was a typo
but lefties are 1 for freaking 38 against martinez. it’s probably SSS, since lifetime in the minors lefties are hitting .253 and righties .262, which is weird since martinez is a righty.
good point, he might just be here for this week.
by Braves Biceps on May 22, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And on queue here is a picture of Martinez pitching in Gwinnett recently. It’s funny, I didn’t realize he was wearing #19 on the day I saw him…I wonder what # he wore when Yunel was there as Yunel was wearing #19.
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by bwellnjonesco on May 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially
This is especially strange given Resop’s unusual contract. It seems like a call him up or lose him situation.
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FiretrucK! Some of the moves we make just make no since at all!! I didn’t understand when we signed this guy to begin with! We have better arms than this just rotting in AA ball! I fully understand why Kimbell was sent down, and I agree with that, but why bring up this up to the big leagues where each and every game count! Just don’t get it at all!!!
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