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Talking With The Enemy: Braves at Brewers

Ryan Braun is a phenomenal hitter. He still wears Jason Heyward pajamas though.

I recently exchanged questions with Brewcrewball.com's blogger Nicole Hasse about the Brewers' 2010 season and the upcoming series with the Braves. Here are 5 questions I asked her:

1. The Brewers will come into the series with a record of 15-16. What has gone right and what has gone wrong in 2010?

This team is extremely inconsistent. It feels as though it's either go big, or don't go at all. This is a team that scored 26 runs this past weekend, but only scored one run in the four-game series last weekend. Clearly the Brewers have a lot of offensive power in their lineup, but sometimes it just doesn't show up. There hasn't been a long enough stretch of no scoring for anyone to seriously discuss is as an issue - a 17-run game makes you forget pretty quickly - but at some point the feast or famine offense is going to be an issue, I think.

Pitching is what has gone wrong. His most recent outing aside, Doug Davis has struggled. We had Jeff Suppan in the starting rotation. No one has been able to go deep into games. The bullpen is getting a lot of work which will likely be a problem near the end of the season. Right now we're very heavily relying on the Brewers to use the "we'll just score a lot of run so it doesn't matter how bad our pitching is" theory. That's only going to work for so long.

2. Braves fans know all about Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder and how good they are at the plate, but who besides these 2 have contributed the most on offense?

Casey McGehee. He's the best player that no one has heard of. We claimed him off waivers from the Cubs after the 2008 season and that was a total steal. He got a chance to get on the field when some other guys struggled and basically continued to prove he belonged there. He led all rookies in RBI last season and should have been more talked about for ROY. He literally came out of nowhere.

No one knew if last season was a fluke or not, so we're super excited about him hitting .304/.385/.536 with 6 HR and 28 RBI. Adding him to the already potent 3-4 punch of Braun and Fielder has really opened up our lineup.

Also, he has a son, Mack, who is affected by cerebral palsy and he's damn adorable. Last year Mack threw out a ceremonial first pitch before a game and Casey got a pinch-hit, go-ahead home run in that same game.

My favorite Casey moment was a game last season where Casey made an error at third, dropping a really easy pop-up. He made up for it by hitting his first career grand slam in the same game. That's the kind of player Casey is.

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3. Yovani Gallardo has been fantastic for the Brewers this year and will likely pitch Wednesday against the Braves. What makes him so good and where would you rank him among the NL's most elite pitchers?

I'm not sure if you can rank Yovani Gallardo as an elite NL pitcher yet. He has the talent but hasn't reached anything near his full potential.

The biggest knock on Gallardo right now is that he's getting high pitch counts early in games and seems to lack the killer instinct. He's a nibbler and it costs him and the team at times. He had a beautiful outing Friday, allowing just two runs and notching 10 K's, but was out of the game after five innings because he was over 100 pitches. In the other two games where he threw 10 or more strikeouts, he lasted five and seven innings. Until he can figure out how to lower his pitch totals, he's going to stay in the "potentially great" category.

What makes him good is that he makes batters miss. He's a strikeout pitcher and a command pitcher. He does not get flustered or show much emotion. His fastball is mid-90s and he's got a better than average curveball.

There's a security factor with Yovanni. The team is comfortable with him on the mound. He just signed a long-term deal, putting him at ease within the organization. Those two factors mean that team's are facing a pretty formidable foe every five days. He's not trying to pitch his way in to anything. He's doing his job and he makes the eight guys behind him confident enough to do there's.

4. Take your pick for the next 5 seasons: Ryan Braun, Yovani Gallardo and Alcides Escobar or Jason Heyward, Tommy Hanson and Yunel Escobar. Why?

I'd take the Brewers trio.

Though Hanson is clearly the better pitcher right now, I'm convinced we haven't seen all that Gallardo has to offer. Both Hanson and Gallardo are big talents and I think I'd call that one a draw.

Alcides is an above-average fielder and has great foot speed. He's young and makes some stupid throws, but that should settle down and I still think he is an upgrade from J. J. Hardy. He has shown some impatience at the plate and the Brewers would really like to see him settle down and become a true #2 hitter in the batting order. A healthy, productive top 5 of Weeks, Escobar, Braun, Fielder and McGehee would be potent and would include a lot of speed on the bases. While we have yet to see a full season from Alcides, we have no reason to believe he won't improve or that we should be worried about injuries. With Yunel, you've seen struggles and injuries and he's a talent who's true depth you haven't been able to see yet.

While everyone is high on Jason Heyward, I'd take Braun any day of the week and twice on Sunday. In fact, there are few players in the majors that I would take over Ryan Braun. He's as good as advertised and seems to have gotten better each year we've had him. Something changed with clubhouse philosophy and he's been given free reign to steal bases. He's 8-for-8 so far and it's really added another dimension to the offense. What you're getting with Braun, besides the obvious power at the plate, is a clubhouse presence. He doesn't screw around, he doesn't like to lose and he'll say what he's thinking. Last year he made a comment to a reporter about pitching and our GM responded to the media that Braun could become his deputy. The kid is cocky, but it's mostly controlled and funneled on to the field. You need a guy in the clubhouse like that.

5. What would be considered a successful season for the Brewers in 2010?

Realistically, this the Brewers do not have the pitching to be a contender. Though we know that, I think most folks will be disappointed if they're not even in the race come September. With Prince Fielder's free agency looming, there's been a feeling of "now or never" surrounding this team since about mid-season 2008. Fans aren't going to be happy to see all this young, farm-grown talent come together and not see a decent playoff run come out of it. Losing to the Phillies in four games isn't going to cut it for the general public. The Brewers reached 3 million in ticket sales the past two seasons, but likely won't get there this year. If the front office wants to continue to draw crowds, the team has to produce.

However, after some disaster starts and Trevor Hoffman's blown saves, expectations have gone down a bit. It's always a roller-coaster ride with this team - feast or famine. I'm not sure anyone knows what to expect every time they turn on the TV or show up to the park.

I think if the Brewers are within breathing room of the Wild Card as the season winds down, it will appease the fan base for another year.

A big thanks to Nicole for answering these questions. Be sure to check for my answers to her 5 questions over on brewcrewball.com

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I’d take Braun any day of the week and twice on Sunday

Typical Braun man-crush statement, odd thing being that his name is Nicole.

Did I really just bring up m'fn BJ Surhoff?

by bwellnjonesco on May 10, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Uh, Braun is a BEAST. I personally would take J-Hey, cuz I think down the road he’s going to be even better, but an outsider need not have a mancrush to take Braun over Heyward at this point, because Braun has quite a stout track record.

by J-Freak on May 10, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on May 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alot of us have Braun man-crushes J-Freak..

I wasn’t saying that it is completely dumb to choose Braun over Heyward, just pointing out that Braun is a popular player with the guyz..

Did I really just bring up m'fn BJ Surhoff?

by bwellnjonesco on May 10, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes but....

I believe he interviewed someone named Nicole, so………….

by Shoert on May 10, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

soooo.........read what I wrote

odd thing being that his name is Nicole.

Did I really just bring up m'fn BJ Surhoff?

by bwellnjonesco on May 10, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read his intro
Here are 5 questions I asked her:

by DawgB on May 10, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a freakin’ joke…good lord.

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braun v Heyward

The reason why most people take Braun over Heyward (right now) isn’t just that Braun is more proven (aka doing it in the bigs longer). Braun has been one of the games best hitters against the game’s elite pitchers (the Santana, Halladay, Wainwright, Carpanter class).

I will be very curious to see what happens as the leagues pitching continues to ajust to Heyward, and how Heyward makes those adjustments.

Braun v Heyward should be revisited in about a year and a half.

by BrewCrewBrian on May 12, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cant argue with the Braun statement

He has proved it in the major leagues for a few years now, he is an elite player

by UltimaParadox on May 10, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd take the Braves trio.

Right now, Brew Crew. But I believe that Heyward will be equal to Braun in a year or two, and our Escobar is/will be better than Alciedes. Close call though, and I’m sure most Brew Crew fans are perfectly happy with their trio.

by soup du jour on May 10, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

What?!?

Ryan Braun over Jason Heyward?!?! Smoking crack must be legal in Milwaukee! Although, Imagine how good T Hanson would be on a team that could hit w/ RISP.

by MikeHamptonStillOwesMeMoney on May 10, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Have you seen Braun?...

I can’t see any team refusing either. There are very few, if any, in LF that someone would take over Braun. He’s easily among the top 10 OF right now, although I’m not looking to see if I’m forgetting anyone. But I’d guess he’s easily a top 10 OF overall, and among the top 3 LF. Other than Carl Crawford, I can’t think of any other LF I’d put on Braun’s level.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 10, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he and Kemp are

the Best OFs right now. But Either is being a mean mean man.

Why do the Dodgers suck so bad with those 2?

by apoxonbothyourhouses on May 10, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look no further than

Vicente Padilla, Opening day starter. Until Kershaw’s gem last night, the Dodgers had gotten very little production from anyone but their OFers.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on May 10, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kershaw and Billingsley have alot of potential to become a dominant one-two punch, but it seems like every other start they get blown up after a great start

by Braves24 on May 10, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hitting wise, no doubt. He loses quite a bit of value due to his poor defense. There’s where I think the difference between him and Heyward might arise in the future. Heyward may be the better all around player, but Braun will probably be the better offensive player.

FWIW, if Kemp can continue the kind of play he displayed last year (doing a pretty good job of that so far this year), I would probably take him over Braun.

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

A note on Kemp

his defense is vastly overrated. He was not good last year and has been downright bad this year. Yes, he plays CF, so he gets an edge over Braun there, but he’s also not as dominant offensively.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on May 10, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was not good last year and has been downright bad this year.

According to what?

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

His defense isn’t poor.

by Salty on May 10, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again…according to what?

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to what is he poor? UZR?

by Salty on May 10, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m looking at UZR and the fact that when I’ve seen him play against us he’s done nothing to inspire.

Still waiting on why you think he isn’t poor.

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s fast, covers a lot of ground, catches the ball, throws well…

by Salty on May 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. So I’m wrong because you think you’re right. Thanks.

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I should’ve put like 3 paragraphs about you in my “thank you” post.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on May 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t know what else to say. “Catches the ball”? Isn’t that a prerequisite?

Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...

by Smoltz's Beard on May 10, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its tough to tell.I don’t think he is a good defensive OF by any means, at least according to +/- and UZR (btw how exciting is it that fangraphs has +/- now../ i feel like a little girl [ooops, thats probably a better line in context])

but Braun went from above average to well below avg in one year…. that doesnt seem to make a lot of sense to me. We need more data to find out what kind of defender he really is. I do know he doesnt make errors, which is a bonus. and theoretically he should have good range, bc of his athleticism.

Im summation, i wouldnt call him a good OF, but I also wouldn’t say he is bad either. I think one more season of data and we will know.

We can all agree though that he is a horrendously bad 3B.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on May 10, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider one thing

Tommy Hanson doesn’t have more than 7-8 PAs from all players not in the NL East, but already, Ryan Braun has homered twice and doubled off of Hanson in seven PAs. It’s pretty safe to say that Braun has been the biggest thorn in his side in his very short career thusfar.

Braun is a VERY good player plain and simple, and even compared to Jason Heyward’s projected ceiling is certainly no slouch.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on May 10, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

two of those HRs were his first two ABs against Hanson if I remember correctly. it was Hanson’s first start

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on May 10, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact

that this team has scored 20 runs and 17 runs already this season worries me. Lets be glad Kawakami doesnt have to pitch this series.

The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb

by Tim Goad on May 10, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

but 1 run

in a 4 game series.

i have Fielder and McGehee on my fantasy team (had Escobar, too). Let’s just say I’m in 5th place (out of 7 teams). More consistency and I’m 2nd.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on May 10, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 runs!

But your point is correct. Still they’re scoring more runs per game than any team not named Yankees and they’re right there with them.

by Salty on May 10, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel ya. I drafted Chipper and Mac on offense.

and Hanson and Hudson for two of my pitchers. I’ve gotten rid of Chipper already.

I waited too long to take Heyward, he went in the 12th round.

The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb

by Tim Goad on May 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the team has no chance at all to even be competitive

why don’t they have a firesale? Dump Weeks, Hart, Fielder, Parra, Wolf, Gerut, Counsell, Hoffman, or I guess anyone who isn’t pre-arb and not named Gallardo or Braun.

by Salty on May 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Because they're not far from competing.

So blowing it up kills their chance next year. They could use another starter or two, and pen work, but its not like they’re they Pirates.

by soup du jour on May 10, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they'll be competitive this year

I wanted to see what the person who did the interview thought.

If you count major league ready relievers in the minors, they have too many. The consensus opinion at their site is that they won’t be competitive next year either because Fielder will be gone and unless they snag a big free agent, they’ll still only have one decent starter.

by Salty on May 10, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder isn't a free agent this winter...

so if they don’t have him next year, they will have something in return. Perhaps the P they need, and can slide maybe Mat Gamel or perhaps McGehee or Braun to 1st.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going by the consensus at their site. They view him as impossible to sign and expect him to be traded at the deadline this your or over the off-season. Gamel is a question mark, McGehee is a fluke and Braun is doing really well in LF. Again, except for the Braun remark, I’m paraphrasing what I read over there.

by Salty on May 10, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the same could be said about the Braves… this past offseason.

Unfortunately, despite the sense it may make, you don’t blow up teams that are close to competing.

the Fans would revolt and you’d have no revenue stream and you wouldnt be able to rebuild.

although I have said this exact same thing about the Brewers. They can’t compete as currently constituted.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on May 10, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they have no chance, don’t you move several players?

by Salty on May 10, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you not read what I said, you can’t blow up a team, in a small market, the fans will revolt and their only source of income is tickets sales

teams like the Brewers don’t have money from a TV deal or a national following. By staying semi-competitive the past couple of years they have been able to bring in 3 million fans as mentioned. as soon as you blow up the team the fans stop coming and you lose the major source of revenue you need to supply your rebuilding process. Look at the teams that always sell off players, the never compete (im looking at you Pirates). The rays are the exception and they have the best farm system in baseball, so they can handle trades that don’t work out, which is something that happens when you trade for prospects (as I assume you are insinuating)

the thing for the brewers to do until Fiedler is gone, is continue to patch holes and hope they catch lightning in a bottle, and catch fire. With McGehee, Fielder, and Braun, they have a great 3-5 lineup, and Weeks is a great leadoff hitter. If any of the pitching they spent money on (on short term deals) works, they are a playoff team. You have a good ace in Gallardo, and Wolf as a solid 2/3. If they can patch the back of the rotation they could be a dangerous team in the playoffs, because they score runs in bunches.

As a baseball move, yes you would consider blowing the team up, but for reasons outside baseball, financially and in terms of the fan base (which suffered through years of the ownership selling off their best players).

As a final disclaimer, I am from Milwaukee originally, and consider the Brewers one of my favorite teams, and my Dad is a big Brewers fan. So I have often discussed this. I am actually in favor of the longterm move to break down the team, but unfortunately not all fans are as brilliant as me and wouldnt be able to see the upside in sucking for 2-3 years to have the possibility of being the next Rays (and thats because the downside of that plan is being the Pirates for the next 10 years).

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on May 10, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

As someone with McGehee in fantasy...

I’ll echo that love of the 3B. He’s been a big boost for my team as the supposed “backup” going into the year behind Chipper and Gordon Beckham depending on which team. McGehee has passed both as my regular starter already.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 10, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

"He literally came out of nowhere."

Really? He materialized from nothingness? If people don’t stop using “literally” as a point of emphasis while ignoring the actual meaning of the word I’m going to literally tear my face off.

by jtw126 on May 10, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be a sight to see.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on May 10, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

While Heyward vs. Braun may be somewhat of a push, I can’t see taking Alcides over Yunel or Gallardo over Hanson. Alcides hasn’t shown much offensively at this point and has to be considered a question mark until he does. Yunel, when he’s on, is one of the top 5 or so offensive shortstops in the game. That’s no comparison. As for Hanson, he’s been up less than a year and he’s already shown that he’s capable of being a top starter. Gallardo has only shown flashes of that, nowhere near the consistency of Hanson.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on May 10, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Alcides hit in the minors, in Winter ball and in the majors last year. He is a top defensive SS now. I’m not sure about the Gallardo thing either.

by Salty on May 10, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with Pac. Alcides< Yunel bc they are both preally godo defensivley but Yunel is a better hitter and probably has more upside even though he is older.

The Gallardo thing is tough and it may sound weird to say but Gallardo may be better because he is such a better hitter. he has a career OPS of 600, and that may be enough to at least make their overall value a push. (like I said this may seem like a crazy argument, and I haven’t even convinced myself of it yet). Hanson is the better pitcher, but Its not by a lot and Gallardo has a lot of upside, not that Tommy doesn’t.

It’s pretty close. I take Braun over Heyward, and Yunel over Alcides, and then probably give Hanson the edge, but its a really close fight and I really don’t think you can go wrong with either choice. The only thing is Alcides has a lower floor than Yunel.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on May 10, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If any Braves fans are planning to be in attendance this week, say hi to Laverne and Shirley for me.

When you've said Jason Heyward, you've said it all.........

by UMDBHIK on May 10, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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