Chipper Chops the Cubs as the Braves Comeback to Win
by gondeee on Apr 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT
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PrintIt was looking pretty bleak for the Braves heading into the eighth inning. Cubs starter Ryan Dempster had owned the Braves batters through six innings, and then came those killer lefties out the Chicago bullpen. The Cubs left-handed pitchers had owned the Braves in the first game, and with another shutout inning in tonight's game they looked they would repeat that performance, but the Braves had other plans.
Martin Prado barely missed a homerun that would have tied the game off the second Cubs lefty of the night, instead settling for a double. Then the old man Chipper Jones came up to bat, and on a 3-1 pitch he parked a get-over fastball change-up into the left field seats. That gave Atlanta the one-run lead, and Billy Wagner came on in the ninth inning to strikeout the side for his first save in Braves' uniform.
There was some concern in tonight's game as the Braves had a severe case of the strikeouts. Troy Glaus collected the golden sombrero, striking out four times, and Yunel Escobar, Jason Heyward, and Nate McLouth each picked up two strikeouts. This was in stark contrast to how the team had fared all spring, where they led baseball in walks and on-base percentage, and didn't strikeout a lot.
Jair Jurrjens had one of those Jair Jurrjens games. He pitched good enough to get the win, but the Braves couldn't score enough to send him to the locker room on the winning side. They had their chances to score early in the game. Heyward came through with a rocket-shot double to right field that scored Brian McCann in the second inning that gave the Braves the early lead.
The team loaded the bases with only one out in the third inning, but Glaus and Escobar struck out and the Braves came up empty. That failure came back to haunt the team as Jurrjens couldn't escape his bases loaded situation unscathed, and in the meantime Ryan Dempster settled down to retire 12 of the last 13 batters he faced, including seven strikeouts.
All the Braves batters seemed to be swinging at just about anything above the belt, and Escobar did his best Francoeur imitation by flailing at outside breaking balls all night. I wonder if the free-hitting and easy-hit ways of opening day got in their heads a bit and they were more inclined to go up there swinging. Of course, Ryan Dempster did have some nasty nasty stuff on the night, so perhaps we can excuse some of the swings and misses.
But in the end Dempster's stellar start didn't matter, and the Braves elder statesmen, Chipper Jones, put the team on his shoulders in a situation where they needed him to come through in a big way. It was good to get a win on a night when we had some miscues that allowed the lead to slip away and on a night when we were dominated by the opposing pitchers 90% of the time.
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I kept thinking it was hit so hard that he wouldn’t have time to get to second, but it was a standup double. That ball, by the way, was also scorched.
Heyward has the 3 hardest hit balls of the year so far.
The HR, the 2B, and the 1B from the opener that almost killed the pitcher.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sound off the bat
I kept reading about how the sound off Heyward’s bat was different, but I just thought that the difference was probably negligible. But man! There really IS a different sound. That was amazing.
THIS IS BRAVES COUNTRY
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 7, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Looks like, in the boxscore
They went back and corrected it so that neither of JJ’s runs were earned. Not that he pitched a great inning, but between the missed call (should have been a double play) and the error at first, he did deserve to get out of that unscathed.
I was a little concerned though
By how unsettled/hurried he got. I know the guy is young, but he seemed to get wayyyy too anxious after both plays (the bad call and then later the error). I know its a pressure situation, but I was just surprised to see how under the skin he seemed to let that stuff get to him. Dempster on the other hand (when his bases were all loaded), was cool as shit and completely unfazed and proceeded to throw some nasty strikeouts to Escobar/Glaus. I’m guessing thats something that comes with experience? I dno. Just surprised to see that kind of emotion/anxiety in the first start of the season.
Well
Smoltzie had some good things to say about it. How, especially early in the season, it’s easy to forget your third pitch, and it seemed like he hadn’t used his change-up. So when he needed it in that 5th inning, he wasn’t able to locate it because he hadn’t thrown any the first few times he’d been out there.
changeup is definitely his second pitch
just a lot of rightys. He usually throws it a lot to rights as well.
by nathan rothschild on Apr 8, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I said this in the other GT
We’ve put up nearly 4,000 comments in the first 2 Game Threads of the season. Looking around SBN, the only blogs who (might) be able to compete with Talking Chop are the Giants’ and Rockies’. We’re on a roll.
Keep it up!
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
I dunno how hard it is, but McCovey Chronicles had links to each in the recap (I think). (I went to check something for my roommate & his parents who’re up here from the Bay Area. This weekend’s gonna be fuuuun.)
STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."
by AllSaintsDay on Apr 7, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The Giants fans are all giddy over winning 3 in a row over the shitty Astros. I know 3 wins is 3 wins…but come on.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Philly fans are psyched
After winning 2 against the Natinals? I hope not. I think they should know better after winning a WS.
The Giants may be good pitching-wise, but they’re going to have trouble scoring runs against teams that can pitch well. Like, oh, I dunno… The Braves.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
My college roommate is from Philly
And he already thinks Philly has the division with their 2 wins… idiot…
by happyplayer23 on Apr 8, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
his parents who’re up here
That’s risky apostrophe placement my friend!
by kreese555 on Apr 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno…the Cardinals and the Mariners have huge game thread activity.
by soup du jour on Apr 7, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals are also in the conversation and i had never looked at the Mariners site before, but it seems pretty popular as well. I guess I was just trying to say Talking Chop is legit.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Dempster is a right-handed pitcher
And most of the starting lineup had their struggles against him today. So should we be worried that the starters swung and missed so much against a right hander?
to be honest
the only weakness i see right now is troy glaus and that is against righties and lefties.
by SmithnCompany on Apr 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my goodness
Troy Glaus is a veteran. He’s had what… 9 whole at bats this season? Give the man some freakin time. Dempster was filthy tonight and none of our hitters looked very good against him.
We have 160 games to go; if we’re considering making roster changes based on 2 game stretches, it’s gonna be a long, long, long season.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Overreaction gets you nowhere in baseball.
That is why Bobby Cox has won 2,000+ games: patience.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly...
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
lol, did i say we needed to make a roster change?
let alone a lineup change? though i do think the latter would not be a bad idea.
by SmithnCompany on Apr 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i know you didn't
I was just trying to make the point of people need to stop worrying about Glaus. You’re right, you never said we needed to make a lineup change, but even bringing up his “weaknesses” seem a little silly, because the man has been a professional for 10 years and he’s only had 9AB’s this year.
Now if he’s still struggling in 2-3 weeks, we should definately start to worry a bit. But let’s just cross that bridge if it gets here.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, from my vantage point, it just looked to me last night like he was just a split second late on the fastball. Yeah, he swung at a few balls outside of the strike zone, but it’s not like he was missing balls by 3 feet. I think it’s just getting his regular season timing back, that’s all. Although from TV, it looked liked he had a couple fans behind him that were on his a$$. They were wearing Braves gear.
by dunnytwogloves on Apr 8, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
the fat guy who kept jumping up and throwing his hands up over his head. What a jerk.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
geeez....
its posts like these that make me want to stop reading………….two games. He is a professional baseball player and you are an overreacting fan. Would you rather have FUGA? Francis Francour? Shaeffer? i could keep going……. The 2010 braves are 2-0 and its an exciting team….way to focus on the negative. later in the season if he is still flailing away at the plate, by all means comment about a change or some extra tips from all of your experience at the plate….but two games, two games, you wanna talk about two games(insert jim moras voice here.)
Who are these Francour and Shaeffer people that you refer to?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Chipper wasn't looking too hot either
Until the bot of the 8th.
Give Glaus some time, the guy is a veteran and had a good spring.
If Spring Training stats are meaningless (which they mostly are)
then 2 games’ worth of stats are even more meaningless. Unless they apply to Heyward, in which case, yes, he is totally going to hit 81 HRs and drive in 405 runs.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
those numbers might break a few records, but im not positive. i’m sure one of your long research posts might be able to find some answers for us though!
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI, the extra game threads were simply removed from the front page, but are still available if you search for them. Just enter in the text for game thread that does appear and the search should return the other two.
You can also click the word ARCHIVES at the top and they will be listed.
"When all is said and done, more is said than done." - Lou Holtz
Braves Baseball is Back!
With a closer that doesn’t cause heart attacks. Let’s go Hanson for the broomsticks.
I think I have a man crush on the 4H club. Heyward, Heap, Hanson, and Hudson. What a Brave New World.
by romone_braves91 on Apr 7, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Randy Wells, who had a pretty damn lucky rookie season, IIRC.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm predicting a blowout
7-1 Bravos.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
hint: use the little +reply button
and he’s a righty.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
KJ homered in the 1st inning in AZ
thata boy Kelly!
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was just about to post that. Somebody is watching baseball tonight.
This Heyward kid is different. -Duk, Big League Stew
by McCann and McWill on Apr 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
and now it’s Braves time!
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
We lead over the Yankees on ESPN.
This Heyward kid is different. -Duk, Big League Stew
by McCann and McWill on Apr 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
first time ever…
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I just rec’d this.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I still love me some KJ...
I don’t think he got a proper chance to regain his job, BUT I’m glad he’s doing well now in AZ. He’s on pace to hi 108 HR with 162 RBI. I think he can do it!
Now LaRoche needs to get into the act, slow start be-darned!
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 8, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
totally off topic, my apologies
Does anyone know for sure if its Lowe or Kawakami on Saturday Night? I live in the Bay Area and I’m busy all weekend but if Lowe is pitching saturday night (i know, i know, it should be the other way around but i like d-lowe) I might leave something early and go. both are listed on different probables sites, anything in the AJC straight from Bobby? something like that?
Pretty sure its Lowe vs The Freak.
This Heyward kid is different. -Duk, Big League Stew
by McCann and McWill on Apr 7, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take that matchup
I know we beat Profesor Snape last season, but beating him again on Saturday won’t be easy. I’d rather throw our worst pitcher out there against him and then try to win 2 out of 3 with Huddy and KK.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s what i was hoping and thinking originally, right now its down to just yahoo sports calling for kawakami vs wellemeyer. everywhere else says lowe vs tbd. my friend told me the giants are really rigid with their rotation and it will likely be wellemeyer for them, which i’d take in a second, possibility for a DLW if needed.
Everyone buy Yahoo!
seems to agree Lowe vs. Lincecum… but we’ll have a better idea by Friday presumably
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to know for sure on Sunday if we don’t know by Friday.
This Heyward kid is different. -Duk, Big League Stew
by McCann and McWill on Apr 7, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for JJ. He has about as much luck as Smoltz in pitching good games and not getting the win. JJ’s game wasn’t great, but it was a hell of a lot better than Lowe’s.
Glaus looked absolutely lost out there tonight.
Great to see Chipper actually trying to hit for power rather than hitting to try and boost his average.
Well, it's a double edged sword
Rafael Furcal was a hell of a lot more valuable when he was making contact and showing plate patience than when he was swinging for the fences.
Chipper’s at the point where he doesn’t have the bat speed to just cock back and try to hit everything on the screws-he’ll end up hurting himself more that way. But he does need to produce some kind of power.
~ Viva los Bravos ~
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
Great win today
Not because we played well, but because we won despite playing poorly. These are the kinds of wins that make the difference in a playoff season. Everyone has off days, but if you can win a few of those, you’re in business.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
amen brother
we still gotta win the games when everyone isn’t on top of their game. we won’t have many games like Monday’s.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I happen to think that
we’ll have plenty of games like Monday’s game. Though we aren’t Heyward virgins any more, so they won’t feel quite as good.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I just meant we wont score 16 runs very often and have basically every break or call go our way. I’m sure we’ll have some pretty dominate games tho.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, by the way...
Chipper’s HR took the Braves from a 34% chance of winning to an 87% chance of winning. Not bad for a greybeard.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
FWIW, Chipper in the postgame said he was looking changeup up in the zone, got one, and crushed it.
tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.
I absolutely hate how mlb tv cuts off
Any post game interviews. Chipper was in the middle of the interview when all of a sudden they cut it off. At least wait till the broadcast goes to their first commercial!
I just appreciate
Chipper’s Star Wars reference. He said he was playing “jedi mind tricks” out there when he stole a base the other day
=)
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 8, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
way to rally
it’s always nice to hear that at least one of your teams won their game. (The Hawks lost, which sucks)
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
Since ur a braves fan, I only half-way hate u
Watching Bobby Cox pick boogers since 1995
by a hooter's baby on Apr 8, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn right go Bobcats
"The cake is a lie"
by mad_dog_maddux on Apr 8, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
go Suns
beat the Spurs last night…no, OWNED the Spurs last night!
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW, gondeee
It says that Chipper is the “elder statesmen”, which I think is wrong. Unless he has multiple personalities? One who hits righty, the other lefty?
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
Games like this
Is what make me dislike the offense and Derek Lowe! JJ pitches a decent game and has a ND to show for it. Lowe pitches like crap and still gets the win!
It just shows that the “win” stat doesn’t mean shit.
by get swoll yunel on Apr 8, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
this
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Except at the end of the year...
then that “win” stat seems pretty important, and you’re hoping for at least 90 or more of them combined.
They’re obviously talking about wins for starters
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is a good thing...
getting a win by a starter means he lasted at least 5 innings, likely longer, and the bullpen wasn’t trading leads or needing to hold someone up for a comeback. Is it as indicative of a pitcher’s performance as FIP or some other advanced metric, or as more commong stats such as ERA or WHIP? No, but a starter winning games is a meaningful stat in that a) it means your team won which is always a good thing, and b) the starter got the win and not the bullpen so he lasted a little while and handed the ball over while still in the lead.
So while advanced stats are nice, casting off the older stats as worthless or meaningless is being ignorant imo. Again, I’m not saying simple Ws is a better way of tracking a pitcher’s performance than FIP, etc, but simply that it certainly means a little more than shit.
I’m aware of that, but wins obviously don’t amount to as much as the average fan thinks. That’s all he was saying. Nothing new here.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
That is not what he said...
he said, “It just shows that the "win" stat doesn’t mean shit” which is very different than “wins obviously don’t amount to as much as the average fan thinks”. Whether they mean more or less than they should to the “average fan” I guess depends on what the average fan thinks. But to say wins don’t mean shit, is clearly wrong on the whole, and even specifically to starting pitchers would be wrong for the reasons given above.
mean shit, is clearly wrong on the whole
I think you may be ignoring the context, which can sometimes be misleading…lol
I think he meant, wins don't mean shit for pitchers
A guy can go 5 innings, give up 12 earned runs, and earn a win. A guy can go 9 innings, and he gives up a run because the left fielder literally took a nap on the grass, and the ball rolls all the way to wall for an inside the park HR.
Win is a team-context stat. They’re very important for a team because that’s the entire objective. They don’t mean shit for pitchers.
those are two very far and infrequent extremes...
see above for disagreement. Do they mean everything like Joe Morgan leads us to believe? No. Are they “meaningless”? Again, no because as described above, teams like to win, and a starting pitcher logging that W means he had a decent enough game to get it there AND your bullpen didn’t blow it.
You’re clearly over-analyzing what he said, but whatever
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you him?...
then how do you even know what he meant? And my point still stands, while advanced stat geeks keep searching for a single, all-encompassing algebraic formula to know all they need to know about baseball, it doesn’t exist. And while wins are a very inaccurate way to judge a pitcher and are often poor indicators of actual performance, they do mean something and are a little better than shit.
My point was that counting “wins” for starters as indicative of their performance is a hugely flawed way of doing things. Like Beard said, “Nothing new here.”
Unfortunately, a lot of baseball fans, especially the traditionalists, still believe counting wins is indicative of a pitcher’s worth or even his magical ability “to just go out there and win games”. Jay was expressing his frustration that a “Win”, a stat that goes onto a pitcher’s record, is hugely dependent on what the rest of the team does and often not on how the pitcher himself performed. I was only replying to how unsatisfactory the stat is in evaluating SPs. I used “shit” because I’m not always the most eloquent of posters on here or in real life.
Chill out with the over-analysis. I don’t know why some people here seem so determined to turn everything into a drawn-out argument over semantics. I mean, we’re basically in agreement after all.
by get swoll yunel on Apr 8, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough...
some of the “over-analysis” was from people trying to jump in instead of letting you speak for yourself, but while we do seem to be thinking along the same lines of the importance of “wins” to judge a pitcher, I still think they are more than worthless numbers.
The over-analysis didn’t come from “people trying to jump in”, it came from you.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It was "analysis"...
“over” comes from you, both in you thinking it was excessive and you and Bronn effing me on so I have to repeat myself. It’s all your fault, I DID NOTHING WRONG HERE!
Are you done?
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But am I wrong?...
is there at least not some value, however minimal, in a starting pitcher getting a W?
I get your freakin’ point, I just don’t know why you keep trying to ram it down my throat.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
In the words of Simple Plan, “Welcome to my life”.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
quoting simple plan??
I mean, Gilmore Girls I can take…but Simple Plan…
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Good one.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And you call me argumentative???
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t deny that.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Enter Sandman was a sight to behold
Watching Bobby Cox pick boogers since 1995
by a hooter's baby on Apr 8, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
Reading Giants Blog
Don’t mean to jumped the gun but the Giants fans are worried that the Braves are going to bring them back down to Earth. They consider us a good team. I wonder if everybody in baseball feel the same way. Let’s Go Bravos!
I think I have a man crush on the 4H club. Heyward, Heap, Hanson, and Hudson. What a Brave New World.
by romone_braves91 on Apr 8, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
if being serious it’s located below
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/4/7/1410014/post-game-thread-giants-sweep-the#comments
It’s a long ways down in the comments. They fear Heyward but not of Hudson, KK, or Lowe. Plus they feel the night game (east coast) to day game on the west will be a killer for us. That will be a problem but Hudson will be in the Bay Area tomorrow for the rest.
I think I have a man crush on the 4H club. Heyward, Heap, Hanson, and Hudson. What a Brave New World.
by romone_braves91 on Apr 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I googled it and have been reading the past 20 mins or so.
Thanks though! “I vant vone” is paying homage to Super Troopers “Who wants a mustache ride?” Kinda funny how they mention JHey so readily
Some of the fanposts/comments I've been seeing
Make me think that someone needs to create a thread explaining sample size. If a guy struggles for 2 games in mid-July, is he a detriment? That’s not even a slump-it’s a blip.
Try to keep your judgment calls about individual players reserved until at least the end of the first week. And even then, try to be objective rather than letting a single AB/moment color your observations.
Come on, man, we would have won 10 games by now if Glaus wasn’t holding us back
by BraveSaluki on Apr 8, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha +1
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 8, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
His bat speed has been slow thus far
However, it’s just two games so his inability to hit a heater isn’t bothersome yet. I’ll reserve judgment until May 1st.
I think we're all on board with sample size.
Glaus looked terrible last night, very uncomfortable. He looked like he was guessing (wrong) on every pitch and watched 7 or 8 strikes. Hard to watch.
Sample size has nothing to do with that.
Yes...
Yes, it does.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I knew it was coming. I could feel it.
Go Prado! Go Chip! Go Hey! Go Wags!!
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 8, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions
The reading is okay, but it’s the picture of Wagner and Bobby that I’m wondering about. Does it look to you like Wagner is giving the ball to Bobby after the win??
Yeah
Hopefully Wags will be able to give him say, 43 more of those, and I think it’ll be a good year.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
In < 75 appearances…
/crosses fingers
by get swoll yunel on Apr 8, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
that looks very similar to my pic. Got one right after where Bobby’s trying to return it and Billy won’t take it back. Will try to post tonight.
Prado miscue?
Anyone get a good look at the grounder Prado couldn’t come up with (I think in the eighth?). Looked like an error, but I couldn’t tell and never saw a replay.
It took a funny hop and just missed the glove.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
I started on a rant at the game about how errors are not errors anymore, but stopped short because I was watching from 300 ft away.
He made a couple of nice plays that were good to see from a 2B, and it looks like he’s going to live up to at least average defense. I’ve missed that.
The errors = hits thing irks me though…but another time!
It was a well hit ball that looked like it hit the lip of the outfield grass, so it’s understandable that he didn’t make the play. With that being said, he didn’t do a good job of getting in front of the ball so there’s that.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I never liked the bad bounce hit...
IMO, those types of plays should be hard-luck errors, not gimme hits. It raises the expectations for level of play for both the hitter and the fielder.
BTW, none of this is meant as a knock on Prado. It was a rocket!
Watching it on TV...
I agree. He didn’t do a good job of getting in front of the ball. He tried to make a backhand play, instead of doing it out of necessity. BUT, he did make up for it with his big double in the 8th.
by dunnytwogloves on Apr 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Just in case everyone missed it, KJ hit two HRs last night…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
MVP!
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
NL Comeback Player of the Year? Nah, Glaus will get that one!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
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