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Stop Worrying. The Braves will be OK.

As most of the readers on here know, the Braves lost again to the Mets on Saturday, which ended our season as well fell to 8-9. Our starting pitching is inconsistent. The offense is horrible. The defense is laughable. The bullpen is over-worked. And so on. The Braves should stop worrying about their upcoming opponents because the 2010 season is a failure and we should shift our focus on scouting the prospects in the 2011 draft.

This is basically what's been posted on Talking Chop since Thursday night when we lost to Jamie Moyer and the Phillies.

To be honest, it's getting ridiculous.

First, let's look at how the 2009 playoff teams started their season last year.

As of April 24th, 2009 here were the records of the NL's playoff teams:

Phillies 8-8
Cardinals 12-5
Dodgers 12-5
Rockies 5-10

Star-divide

As you can see, the Braves would be right in the middle of all these teams. While I didn't go back and look, I can't imagine any of these teams played as difficult of a schedule that the 2010 Braves have played. Just in case you've forgotten, here's a look at the teams the Braves have/will play in April:

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Looking at the schedule, the Braves face a ton of quality and talented opponents and even one of the lesser teams on our schedule, the Padres, have been surprising in 2010. When people say stuff like "shit, we're in last place and already 3 games behind the Phillies" it just makes you look silly. The Braves have played a very tough schedule with very few off days and have already made one of the 2 West Coast trips of the season. It's not like the Braves are going to have this schedule all season long. It'll get easier. Much easier.

Next, let's look at our hitters. Are some of them struggling to start the season? Yeah. Will it continue? No.

Here are some of our guys who are struggling at the plate, along with their current average along with their career average:

Yunel Escobar  .203  .304
Nate McLouth  .150  .261
Matt Diaz  .162  .309
Troy Glaus  .167  .256
Melky Cabrera  .135  .270

Are you telling me that all those guys are going to hit 100 or 150 points below their career batting averages for the next 5 months? There's no way. Our hitters are struggling at the plate now, but they'll come around.

Looking at our starting pitchers, all have been good besides Derek Lowe. Tommy Hanson has been solid this year, with the only exception coming against the Phillies where he battled a high pitch count. Tim Hudson has regained his form from the 2008 season and looks 100% from TJS. Jair Jurrjens has looked great besides his San Diego meltdown and is still a victim of no run support. And Kenshin Kawakami is pitching like a fantastic #5 starter, who, like Jurrjens, receives no run support. These guys will be more than fine.

Looking at the bullpen, here's how many appearances and innings pitched our relievers have had in 2010:

Billy Wagner 6 6.0
Takashi Saito 7 7.0
Peter Moylan 8 7.2
Eric O'Flaherty 9 7.2
Kris Medlen 8 10.2
Jesse Chavez 6 8.1
Jonny Venters 3 6.0

Kris Medlen is the only pitcher with more than 10 innings pitched and that's to be expected with him being the long-man in the bullpen. Eric O'Flaherty leads the team with 9 appearances, but throws few pitches per appearance, especially when he comes in as a LOOGY. The same can be said about Moylan whenever the team needs a DP or faces a tough righty. The two veterans in the 'pen, Wagner and Saito, are both on pace for a very manageable work load and should be able to get through the season without too much fatigue. The bullpen has been very good so far and will continue to be throughout the season.

As you've read this, I hope you've gotten the purpose of this post. And if you haven't, here it is: For all you doubters and worry warts out there, STOP WORRYING. Things will get better for the Atlanta Braves. Are we struggling now? You bet. And will it continue for another week or so? It certainly could. But will it continue for the rest of the season? Hell no.

Thanks for reading and Go Braves.

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nice recap

It’s frustrating as hell to watch, but you’re right, the Braves will be fine. 3 games out of the NL top record is not that big a deal. Expectations were high, disappointments have been many. When the Braves get near normal, we have a team with very few easy outs. I’m looking forward to it,

Will Chipper and McCann ever call one of their famous closed door meetings, or is it just too early?

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

closed door meetings?

would be interested to read about them if they’re real.

by BMacAttack on Apr 25, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Announcers used to allude to these taking place 2 or 3 times a year. No coaches, no press, just players getting in each others ears.

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

On the side of my screen, there is a headline from SBN that says: “Chipper Jones Injures Hip On What Is Allegedly His 38th Birthday”

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t know Jon Bois was a SBN writer now, he’s a funny guy. I can’t say I’ve checked that often these days, but I really liked the stuff he wrote for WordupThome.com back in the day. Best stuff to read fake chat logs for people who really liked Velcro’s old stuff. Not sure about the jokes about his age – he’s not a 16-year old Latin prospect.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 25, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Thank you for saying this.. perhaps we can have a separate gameday thread for the cut-and-run-with-90%-of-the-season-left folks… although I fear a mass suicide.

The question then becomes.. would anyone try to stop them?

by BMacAttack on Apr 25, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Hell of an idea, a positive thread and a negative thread. How about we all sign an agreement that if we whine unendingly we accept a 7 day ban once the Braves win 8 out of a 10 game stretch.

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Devi's Advocate....

Obviously it’s way too early to be giving in to despair. I think what is bothering everyone is how is this team going to hit better than last year’s team? I know some hitters are really struggling who haven’t in the past (Escobar and Diaz in particular), but there’s no guarantee the Glaus experiment is going to work.

Heyward is amazing, but it’s a lot to ask him to carry the offense. Jones is becoming ever more injury prone. We have a defensive and offensive question mark at first base.

Negative people are annoying, especially when we’re losing; however, things aren’t exactly rosy.

by mdhenshaw on Apr 25, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Glaus deserves more time. He was awesome in ST, but showed no power. Now he’s hit a few HR’s, a few hard, long line drives that have been caught and just needs to meld the contact and power. He looks like he’s putting a HR swing on every pitch, if he would tone that down from time to time, he’d see more successful AB’s.

Chipper may or may not have a serious injury. If he does, I’m cool with Prado at 3rd, Infante at 2nd, or vice versa. Call up Thurston for bench help. I hope Chipper is back in a day or two, we need his leadership as much as his bat.

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing to think about… some of his hits would probably gotten over the fence if the weather was a bit warmer. Like the one that Victorino caught. He’ll get it going

by dkinser86 on Apr 25, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you for this

haha i know that some others along with myself have been getting frustrated with all the negativity around the threads….i just stopped participting for the last couple

by dc_allday on Apr 25, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m glad to see other people that have faith that the Braves will make Bobby’s last year as coach a really good one. Was feeling like the only one that did. I’m gonna fuss and say that anybody complaining about certain people struggling at bat thinks they can do better, well why didn’t you make the team? Everyone gets in a slump. Hang in there it will get better!

Pamie Jo

by pamie jo on Apr 25, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

This

You are the VOICE OF REASON. It’s only April. The schedule was tough and we are still in the battle. The offense will one day catch up with the pitching. We as fans just have to be realistic. No team in baseball (Not even the Yanks of the 20’s with Ruth) can go 162-0 or the way the fans feel on this site 130-32. Just relax and hope for a better tomorrow.

by romone_braves91 on Apr 25, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

As much as I enjoy the GTs - they're even wearing on me now.

(and I fully realize I may be wearing on some too)

I know that the Braves are frustrating to watch of late. But, the constant declarations of gloom and doom get tiresome. We can express our frustration at a particular play, missed opportunity, etc. during the game … but it doesn’t have to lead to dozens of posts asking for a total reevaluation of the team lineup, managerial decisions, Wrenn’s intelligence or the perceived destiny of the team for the season.

A little perspective would be nice – and I appreciate those on here who keep trying to bring it into the discussions in posts like these and the game recaps.

Curve: The loveliest distance between two points. ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Apr 25, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel the same way

I am kind of glad that I won’t be able to be on the GT tonight (I have plans—though I still should be able to watch most of the game). I need a break from all the whining and moaning.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Apr 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, after Friday night, I took a break from the OT yesterday.

It’s frustrating that these young kids get on there, making BS comments. It’s obvious they know very little about the Braves, and they are just on there to fuss and curse. Is their nothing that can be done to block kids under a certain age from commenting or posting on TC?

by HEYJUDE on Apr 25, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

they arent all kids

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

besides

anyone can lie about their age…its the internet

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ages restrictions?? Positive-Negative threads???? C'mon

It’s pretty simple don’t read the posts! If you want age restrictions start a pay-site. Stick with people’s posts you like to read or people with some sense of humor. I think people are concerned (and rightfully so IMO) cause there are deeper problems lurking here….I don’t know what going on with Escobar…..Glaus may never come around and I think Diaz has been playing over his head the last two seasons and maybe coming back to earth… Chipper’s old and will be lucky to hit 20hr’s….Melky looks awful….but he can be better….McLouth will bounce back. I mean its not like we have one or two concerns….there are several…and we all knew going into this season the "if’s"with this team and in order to win those “if’s” need to pan out…So far they haven’t and there’smore “if’s” now than in the off-season.

by Nova Scotia Steve on Apr 25, 2010 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually agree with the last two thirds of that post. The “if’s” part especially.

The first third bugs me though. I concider TC as a “premium” blog. Gondeee, CBWilk, RoyHobbs, Youdemei, MVHSBball and Pacgnosis set a pretty high standard. I sincerly hope that I don’t drag it down with my inexperience and lack of knowledge. But it IS being dragged down in my opinion. I have enough respect for the site and its’ Moderators to know that “this too shall pass”. Maybe it’s the price you pay when readership and participation reach a certain point. It’s too bad really, I’ve read too many comments from long term TCers that they are shying away, that by itself will kill a good site. It takes good Mods as well as informed and rational contributors. I’ve got a feeling some tough decisions will have to be made before long, or this site could end up being like the sites that TCers make fun of.

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dont know if restrictions can be made, but I am pretty tired of people cursing on here. Is there a way you can block it?

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ lmao

Sorry. People are cursing on tv these days like sailors. Society is fucked. Especially the kids. That’s the ugly truth of it.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that was before MTV and VH1 was rotting everyone’s brain.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And back then, they were gathering blackberries, not worshipping them.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just found it funny that someone who posts useless nonsense in every GT doesn’t like the cursing.

by BullManUGA on Apr 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only tv I watch anymore is the Braves. And maybe History or Discovery. Most everything else is complete trash. And every commercial I see gives me another grey hair.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

His ’stache is trash!!

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cursing has always been acceptable on TC

As long as it isnt over the top or out of hand. There’s nothing wrong with the occasional or even semi-often curse word.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

It’s fine if they do it once in a while, but not excessively. Then it’s just annoying.

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 5:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes.

Like screaming “DAAAAAAAMN!!!!!” and feeling the need to type it, as well, when the opposing team hits a 3-run go ahead HR. It’s an expression of momentary frustration with the baseball gods.

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now how could anyone get tired of you?

"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."

by bravos1984 on Apr 25, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen, my brother

There’s no doubt that we’ve been playing like crap lately. But things will get better, and we’re only 1 game under .500. Imagine how bad the Rockies fans felt at this time last year, and they ended up alright. If you have a good team (and we do), they will start playing like it sooner or later.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Apr 25, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rockies season turned around right about the time they fired Clint Hurdle – ha.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So your solution is to fire Bobby Cox?
 
;)

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 25, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not, I love ol’ Bobby and will be very sad to see him hang it up. Firing TP, I can get on board with that. My main point was that the Rockies’ turnaround coincided with something drastic.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My inference was purely tongue-in-cheek.
 
Perhaps Wren should fire Clint Hurdle, despite the fact he is not a Braves’ employee?

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 25, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it, doesn’t he work for MLB Network. If we could figure out a way to get him fired, the Braves are on their way to 95 wins. :)

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clint Hurdle

Is the hitting instuctor for the Texas Rangers.

by Nova Scotia Steve on Apr 25, 2010 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ah, you are right…how can we get him fired from the Rangers in order to turn the Braves’ season around. ha.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make a fake email pretending to be the Rangers and tell him he’s fired then make amother email pretending to be Cox and say he’s hired for the Braves! Simple and easy. Now we just need his email…

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great point about the Rockies

I hope Chipper gets back sooner than later. But without being reactionary, that might be the catalyst for change that turns the Braves around like the Rockies Mgr change did their ‘09 season. Infante can cover for a few days no hassle. His obliques are an issue, now his hip has flared up. if he goes to the 15 day DL, Infante and Thurston can sub-in no problem. If it turns out to be career threatening, Escobar, Diaz, McLouth or Cabrera with a prospect might be used to bring in a 2B, SS, 3B, LF or CF that can fill some needs. We need Chipper’s leadership, but we need him healthy too. His comments last Fall make me worry about this latest injury.

I hope I’m not going too far over the top, it seems reasonable to me that a 38 yr old with a hip injury could become a serious problem.

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Recap

I did some BABIP research yesterday of the Braves’ last ten seasons. Admittedly, I haven’t looked at many boxscores but what I have watched it doesn’t seem the Braves are striking out THAT much. Anyway, for the last ten seasons the Braves BABIP is roughly .300. This April, its .270 and the last week its down around .210. Give this stat time to correct itself and things will get better. Alot of players are pressing. If the Braves weren’t already battling Chipper’s injuries and Prado’s iffy hammy – I’d say bench Escobar for a week after that crap stunt yesterday in order to “get his head out” as Joe Simpson so eloquently put yesterday.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Recap

I did some BABIP research yesterday of the Braves’ last ten seasons. Admittedly, I haven’t looked at many boxscores but what I have watched it doesn’t seem the Braves are striking out THAT much. Anyway, for the last ten seasons the Braves BABIP is roughly .300. This April, its .270 and the last week its down around .210. Give this stat time to correct itself and things will get better. Alot of players are pressing. If the Braves weren’t already battling Chipper’s injuries and Prado’s iffy hammy – I’d say bench Escobar for a week after that crap stunt yesterday in order to “get his head out” as Joe Simpson so eloquently put yesterday.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL. Perfecttt

Rec’d

4/4/10
The Braves will win 90 games this year.

by nick9314 on Apr 25, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesomeness!

Especially the part about Sandoval. Rec’d!

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

pablo sandoval is really fat

I’m still cracking up…

You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by vooodooo on Apr 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the kind words, folks.
 
I was just trying to capture the spirit of the thing……..

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 25, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well put. The pitching will be fine. More wins will come. I’m not willing to admit that the offense will be completely fine though. I’m only saying that because this isn’t a problem that has developed this first few weeks. It’s not a slump. We have trouble scoring runs. I’m not calling for a revolution, I’m stating the very obvious. It’s been the same problem as the past two seasons.

I’m ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE this team will recover. More people need to be POSITIVE this team will recover. Just know you’re going to be frustrated a lot more these next several months.

by MTSU11 on Apr 25, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm gonna be optimistic here on out... really.

I’ve never counted the braves out for the season or even for the next game. It’s frustrating when you know the team is capable of so much more and you keep wanting to see that. I followed the braves since i can remember, so I think the expectations are always high for the team and this blog is a way to vent some temporary frustration. I honestly don’t believe Escobar, McLouth, Diaz, and Glaus can hit this bad all year. When we start getting the production from those guys that we expect we will be on our way. So I apologize for my negativity at times, I’m honestly going to work on being more optimistic because there is a lot of games left to play and i know what this team is capable of.

So let’s go whip the Mets ass tonight.

by BravesFanScout on Apr 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, we all assumed going into this season that we’d have no easy outs in the lineup. Come to find out, we have holes all over the place. The leadoff spot is a black hole no matter who plays in it. Don’t look now but McCann has only 3 hits in his last 21 at-bats. Glaus cannot take advantage of all the RISP opportunities he’s had this year, Escobar has his head elsewhere (I don’t see the Braves ever signing him to a long-term deal), Heyward has struggled in the last week or so, and the #8 spot has been better here lately.

It’s great to say that the people who are struggling are going to start to turn it around. Scoring 14 runs in the last 7 games though just isn’t something to make me all rosy on the inside.

by dunnytwogloves on Apr 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

If TP was out of the equation, I wouldn't be as worried.

Just being honest.

Stay away from him J-Hey……shit.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

PIRATES RELEASED BRANDON JONES

Doesn’t he play outfield? lol

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought Brandon was still in our farm system?
Oh wait never mind…that’s Brandon hicks I’m thinking of. Did Jones go to Pitt in the McLouth trade?

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we DFA’d him to make room on our roster for Glaus.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently nobody loves him….not even the Pirates. :(

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It isn't the batter's slumps that worry me.

It’s what Bobby does about them if they continue, that’s all. I haven’t forgot how long he let Frenchy and Schafer continue to start last year. Frenchy should have been benched the end of May. Melky, in case nobody noticed has worse career stats than Frenchy. I hope like Hell nobody and I do mean nobody stays in their slump this year. I’ve invested a lot of money in season tix this year and I’ll be taking members of my grandson’s little league team to the games and I would really like for them to see winning games. I have said it before, last year as well, I wish we had a different hitting coach.

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Apr 25, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for that. I really needed someone to get in my face about this. We CAN win, we WILL win and we WILL get to the playoffs. Even the Yankees lose, believe it or not. You can’t win them all.
As for TP…. There’s just no words.

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah and believe it or not I don't want to see Melky lose his job.

I don’t expect him to hit better than he has in the past I just hope he can come up with more clutch runs like he did for the Damned Yankees.

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Apr 25, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about some Hitchhikers

This Heyward kid is different. -Duk, Big League Stew

by McCann and McWill on Apr 25, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

On A positive Note...

Sorry, I am missing that one right now. After watching the first game live at the Ted my expectations for this season soared as high as the Ted’s outfield coke bottle…then something happend on the road trip;
 That first game lossto SF in the extra innings seemed to set the tone for the road trip to the tune of mediocrity..(I think I will also include a “note” of the 17-2 drumming by SD?)….And since we are getting musical I will put my lyrics to the tune of; “I Left my HEART in San Francisco”.

I left my heart in San Francisco………
………hmmmmmm
………ahhhhhmmmmm

sorry, forgot the tune maybe I will just let the title say it all?

To get their “heart” back the Braves wil have to depend on Bobby C to work some magic….
Now we are talking song choices!
Duran Duran’s “Is There Something I should know”…yea a little deep maybe on a lighter note?
wo wo wo it’s magic, never beleve its not so….its magic; damn, getting into “don’t worry, be happy” territory!

Alright, some lyrics….as promised
The Brave’s Alma mater:
“On our city’s southern border
rear’d against the sky
Proudly stands the Turner stadium
pardum the tear in my eye
….
for 15 years we were the team
that other’s feared to face
now that we have lost our way
other’s have replaced

So here we stand to rise again
masters of our fate
go braves go! (insert tomahawk chop)

by bravestatoo on Apr 25, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll be the first one to admit that I’m close to giving up on the team this year. But it’s not because of slow starts, i.e. Glaus, Melky, Esco, etc. Nor is it due to ineffective pitching, i.e. Lowe, JJ’s bad game, Wagner’s blown save, etc. I’m on the fence because this team is playing pitiful baseball. It’s almost like they have forgotten the fundamentals that we all learned when we were 12. A first ballot hall of famer forgetting what to do on in infield fly rule? A guy not tagging from 3rd on a deep fly ball to right center? Not moving runners over. Bases loaded strike outs. All of this points to a team that seems to not really give a damn. And yes, I know they care. Yes, I know they want to win, particularly since it’s Bobby’s last season. But other than a select few (Hudson, JJ, Prado, Heyward), this team just doesn’t look hungry. And until I see a fire in their eyes, I’ll continue to look ahead to 2011.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully, all of those aformentioned incidents were addressed in the closed door team meeting and they fix themselves starting tonight. It’s too obvious the teams’ high hopes coming out of spring training and the slow offensive start is carrying over to almost all other aspects of the game besides pitching.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's a good point

Things haven’t really gone their way, particularly against Halladay when they started stroking the ball but never got the bounces. Maybe they let it get into their heads and stopped focusing as much on the basics. I haven’t totally given up yet, because I know the talent is still there. But my confidence level has taken a nice drop.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry missed the reply -my post directly below was response to your comment.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do we know they had a closed door team meeting?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought someone earlier had reference that? maybe not…

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I hope they did. I was just wondering if anyone knew this as a fact.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

closed door meeting

I posted that they should, not that they did

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

They probably just wasted more time hitting up the cages with TP.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

all those little things point to a poorly coached team

by samxrm on Apr 25, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I’ve had this debate with many others. As much as I respect your side of the argument, I will never blame Bobby Cox, nor any other professional baseball manager, for poor fundamentals, particularly those that were learned at a young age. I will not blame Bobby Cox for Chipper’s screw up on the infield fly. I will not blame Bobby Cox for Escobar failing to tag on Glaus’s fly ball. Is this really what a manager should be doing at this level, teaching professional baseball players when to tag on a fly ball? Really?
There is a time and a place for criticism against Bobby. Overuse of the bullpen, sure. Too many sac bunts, sure. But this is not what is killing the team so far, so Bobby is not to blame.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frenchy and Acosta didn’t look like the hopeless Braves players they once were.

Or, were we not watching the same game?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, Frenchy could be attributed to TP or just needing a new venue, as he had way too much pressure in Atlanta.
And Acosta has already blown up as a Met. I can’t believe you’re using one game to try and make a point.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol. touche. That slider from Acosta was nuts, tho. As a Brave, that pitch would have been right down the middle. Guaranteed.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not guaranteed.

Acosta’s problem has always been inconsistency. It would be more like 50/50 between “nuts” and “right down the middle”. He just had a good night – he was lucky. It still hurts losing game where he gets the win, though.

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

like getting kicked in the nuts

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

*a game

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There seems to be alot of assuming going on with the coaches. Assuming they know the rules. Assuming they know what to do in a given situation. Maybe they don’t.

It’s been noted that we have hitters going outside the team for help. Doesn’t this in itself have serious undertones to something kind of bad?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I'll digress a bit

By blaming the coaches, I just assumed people blame Bobby. Now, I’ll fully buy the argument that TP should be gone. I wouldn’t bat an eye if that happened. And perhaps Bobby could be partially blamed for not getting rid of him. But in the end, that call is up to Frank Wren, so I still give Bobby the benefit of the doubt.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let Chipper become the hitting coach

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure...

When he retires from playing.

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hampton passed the “Mr. Glass” personna on to Chip.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It must be a diminished version.

Hampton missed entire seasons. Chipper only misses fractions of seasons, broken up into groups of a few games at a time.

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing scarier than TP remaining as hitting coach is that the only logical reason he could still be around is that he will be next season’s manager?

I agree with BobbyCocks though – at this level, no player should EVER have to be told to tag up from 3rd with less than two outs on a fly ball. What are you going to do, hire a bilingual 3B coach to tell Yunel “now, Yunel there is only one out…make sure you tag up if the ball is hit in the air”? BobbyCock, i say….

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be the manager in 2011.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed man

I have been hoping we would get Mazzone back ever since he left.

A picture says a thousand words unless it is a picture of the Alabama football team then it only says one word.........CHAMPION!

by AlabamaTitans2009 on Apr 25, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is Mazzone these days?

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baltimore

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 25, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope he got fired 3 years ago.

Because if you turn the O’s into AL EAST leaders in two years then you suck.

by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 25, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? wow

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 25, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

yeah

lol

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i believe he is on the radio in atlanta

last I heard anyway

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes...

saw him opening day at the game on the mike….his face is on the web page for one of Atl’s sports talk radio station

by bravestatoo on Apr 26, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine has too – though I am trying to stay optimistic. Maybe our expectations were too high also. But I think the “tough schedule” and “buzzsaw pitching performances” are just excuses. This team is underperforming, we all realize it, we can just only be optimistic that things turnaround. But regarding my Clint Hurdle comment earlier, it may take something drastic to do it (fire TP, early season cut or trade, etc.) I’m still on board, just one butt cheek is hanging ever so slightly off the wagon. I will be glad to hear the “told you sos” later on.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

If people need a reminder of just how truly awful Braves baseball can be, I remind them of the late-80s to 1990 versions. There was just some awful, awful baseball games played those years.
 
This little patch is NOTHING compared to those teams. Keep your chins up, folks. I know it’s hard, but the old cliche “it’s always darkest before the dawn” applies.
 
PUMP IT UP!

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

true, I remember those days!

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the late 80s weren’t as bad as people make it out to be.

Yeah, the on field product was attrocious, plus it was swiftly followed by the Nick Esasky vertigo disaster, the spurning by Todd Van Poppel and the very rapid decline of Dale Murphy.

But even in those dark days there was some serious buzz about those teams. Every intelligent baseball mind knew the Braves had some awesome young prospects (John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, Steve Avery, Kevin Brown, Pete Smith, Kent Merker, Tommy Greene, Mike Stanton, Derek Lilliquist, etc…that’s an enormous amount of young pitching talent in one farm system. Plus we had Ron Gant, David Justice and a lot of other good looking young prospects Mark Lemke, Andres Thomas, Brian Jordan, Vinny Castilla, etc…

The run of greatness in the 90s wasn’t that surprising to people who followed player development in the 80s.

by DCP916 on Apr 25, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That being said, can we get Dale Murphy to play first?

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

And Hammerin’ Hank. And Maddux. And….
Do I need to go on?

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pascual Perez is not walking through that door! Claudell Washington is not walking through that door! Ken Oberkfell is not walking through that door!

by CharlotteChop on Apr 25, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU.

Posts like this are why I finally joined Talking Chop (hi, I’m new!). After a friend had me sift through the AJC blogs last night, I found myself giving in to the overwhelming negativity and general ineptitude of the comments. This has helped bring me back to reality and realize that it’s still only April. We’re only 3 games out of first place three weeks into the season! We’re going to be ok!

by Sarahbeth on Apr 25, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome, keep the positive thoughts coming, we need them

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the welcome! I’ll try to keep ‘em coming. I will admit it’s been a little more difficult over these past two or three games, but I’m ever optimistic!

by Sarahbeth on Apr 25, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to TC,

it’s a fun place to be, most of the time :)

by HEYJUDE on Apr 25, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome!!

Keep an eye out for these goobers around here. I swear, some of them are just too offensive for my liking, dah-ling.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome Sarabeth. I’m hoping your name indicates we ladies have another comrade to enjoy the Bravos with!

Curve: The loveliest distance between two points. ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Apr 25, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks! And you sure do!

by Sarahbeth on Apr 25, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilkommen, and Bienvenue!
 
I’ve never gone to the AJC blogs, but I’m guessing it’s not Pulitzer-caliber material.

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 25, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity, I went over there to read what people were saying.
 
That’s just a whole other level of stupid right there.

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 25, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, It’s ridiculous! That place attracts morons like a light attracts moths.

And thanks for the welcome!

by Sarahbeth on Apr 25, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m always a glass half full kind of guy…..

Having said that, we need 4 or 5 guys to click right now. Hopefully it happens sooner rather than later. They all look lost.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That whole looking lost thing has definitely been the most disheartening thing. I just keep reminding myself that if all else fails, someone will take a frying pan to their heads to straighten them out. And I’m willing to do that.

by Sarahbeth on Apr 25, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

All?

Prado?

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

………………..Except. For. Prado.

Might as well be all. He can’t be a one man team. His efforts go wasted.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd still disagree.

Infante, Hinske, Chipper, Heyward…

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIP Samantha Lynn

I won’t be on the boards today or at the OT during the game.

I’ll be sipping a beer, raising a toast to my best friend…

RIP in the grass fields in the sky, old girl

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by Vance in Sacramento on Apr 25, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Samantha the GSD

For some reason it’s not letting me put the picture up here…

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire. That being said, it is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln

by Vance in Sacramento on Apr 25, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to hear that. There is nothing like a really cool dog.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful dog,

I feel your pain. Our Australian Shepherd, was diagnosed with cancer, and had to be put down last season. I still miss him so much. Hang in there …….

by HEYJUDE on Apr 25, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIP

love dogs.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww what a cute puppy. Sorry for your loss…

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m really hoping we can get the game in tonight. I live in NJ and it’s not raining here but the forecast looks like it could go either way as far as Citi Field.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

the only thing...

the only thing I’m worried about… escobar…. he doesn’t seem right.

But we have a bench, the rest of our team will be alright.

by Braves Biceps on Apr 25, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

He makes a bone-headed play every year, and then goes 30+ games without an error.

But yeah, that was bad. Really bad. We could put all the blame on Esco, but the only starting pitcher who gets over 1.5 runs per game so far is Lowe. Esco is one of several guys (Melky) playing very shitty.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight’s lineup

1) Cabrera – LF
2) Prado – 2B
3) Chipper – 3B
4) McCann – C
5) Glaus – 1B
6) Heyward – RF
7) Escobar – SS
8) McLouth – CF
9) Hanson – P

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Chipper?

I thought he said he was going to be out a few days. Maybe this is a sign of a turnaround. Let’s hope so.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he’s hit into some tough luck, but Glaus in the 5 spot is freaking killing us softly.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did you find that?

Because I have a hard time believing that Bobby would continue to throw Cabrera into the leadoff spot.

by SmithnCompany on Apr 25, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just tweeted from the Braves.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who else is he going to put there?

Diaz is struggling, McLouth is struggling. I don’t want to move Prado and risk putting him in a slump. I’m actually advocating trying Heyward, but I know that’s not going to happen.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we could fit Infante in the lineup instead of Cabrera. I know he did terrible the other day in the leadoff spot but I feel like he deserves more of a chance seeing as Melky/McLouth/Diaz have all gotten their licks.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

McLouth has been showing signs of improvement...

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

missed that 3 run homer by 2 inches

the story of the season, so far

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chipper & Marteen are both playing?

Wow…

Hopefully neither worsens their injury…

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by Vance in Sacramento on Apr 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s wrong with Prado?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a sore hammy. He was sitting out yesterday until Chipper got hurt and he had to come in.

by Bobby Cocks on Apr 25, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby said it was really mild though. It didn’t sound bad at all.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

...but grows wings and can now fly around the bases.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a Hank Hill voice....

“Damn it Bobby. Cabrera won’t get it done. Prado bats first!!”

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently Chipper has heard Brian Jordan’s comments. I think that Prado’s fine. C’mon, Chipper, beat the crap out of those mets!
GO BRAVES!

More magic from 22!

by HereComesBream on Apr 25, 2010 5:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just got in

I feel like the classic parent who walks in on an underground party going on in their house and has no choice but to yell at their child.
And if that’s true then I’m having the feeling we won’t be so crappy tonight

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 25, 2010 4:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

drinking and spending 4 hours in the sun today kinda got to me. I could definately use a Braves win tonight.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

KJ just went yard again… whew, he’s off to a hot start.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

(cough)TP-free(cough)

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin Prado was also projected to be a .275 hitter in the majors. I’m sure TP helped with that a bit.

I don’t know why everyone keeps calling for his head now. TP won’t be the hitting coach next season once Bobby retires.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. He’ll be the manager.

I’ve been calling for his head for years. Not just the past 15 games. It’s been confirmed our hitters go elsewhere for help!!!! What are we?!?! The freaking Royals?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really think it’s gonna be Freddi Gonzalez. I have friends in the Miami-area and says there’s rumors all the time of Gonzalez and the front office not agreeing at all. And when a GM basically says “Make the playoffs with a $20MM dollar payroll or you’re fired” I gotta think he’s serious.

I know this won’t play a huge role in the possible hiring, but with most of our young talent in the minors being latino (JT, Vizcaino, Bethancourt, Salcedo, Delgado, etc.) the Braves might favor a hispanic manager to help bring those guys into the league. That’s all just speculation on my part though.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I would love for Freddi Gonzalez to be the manager in 2011. That would be my only choice. And I think the club would be better off for it.

However, I think it will be Pendleton.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

TP doesn’t bug me the way he does a lot of people. I liked him as a player, too. If he’s the Mgr next year, I’d say the Braves like a guy who has been around the team, knows the players and the organization. I’m not lobbying for him, but he’d be fine with me.

Heyward is pretty good

by bighop on Apr 25, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

TP was a good player and a fine hitter

I just don’t think it translates into being a good all-around hitting coach. As for him being manager, I don’t really think he’ll get the job, but I could be wrong. I hope there is someone good available when Bobby’s gone. Like I said before I just don’t think TP’s a 3 dimensional coach, he doesn’t seem to help some players. You don’t coach everyone the same way, people have different body types and styles. I’m just going by my college days, our coach worked with different people different ways.

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Apr 25, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I picked

KJ up in fantasy and he has been on fire for me. I have Kelly Johnson and Martin Prado and they both have helped me win a lot.

A picture says a thousand words unless it is a picture of the Alabama football team then it only says one word.........CHAMPION!

by AlabamaTitans2009 on Apr 25, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Annnnd… Reynolds just hit a three run shot. Arizona up 5-3 over Phils.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I should’ve gone to the game today instead of last night. The Sillies won and it was a pretty boring game to be honest.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 25, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets Lineup

Same as yesterday except Castillo is back in and of course Pelfrey in the 9 spot.

1) Angel Pagan – CF
2) Luis Castillo – 2B
3) Jose Reyes – SS
4) Jason Bay – LF
5) David Wright – 3B
6) Ike Davis – 1B
7) Jeff Francoeur – RF
8) Henry Blanco – C
9) Mike Pelfrey – P

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Supposedly not raining hard until after midnite

Maybe we’ll get the game in.

Thank God I don’t have to watch it on ESPN. lol. Just hearing Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum talking about the Metropolitans the whole time would be enough to make me sick.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Lucky you…

I’m betting at least 30 minutes dedicated to talking about Jose Reyes being moved to the 3 spot.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

not raining here

and it was ugly in NYC but not raining. My guess is we play baseball. Plus its Tweedle dumber and Tweedle dumbest

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 25, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Count how many time Jon alludes to, “…….BelTRAN…” as well.

Actually, don’t do that. It leads to insanity.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m breaking into a cold sweat already.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch the game on mute and itunes it. You won’t miss shit. And it may be more exciting. Music works really well with baseball on.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

this also works for video games, btw

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

(sideways glance…..)

See, I have to watch the game. Just listening to it makes me fell like Little Orphan Annie, or something..

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant turn on music while playing video games

But I’ve been known to put a game on the radio while playing a vid game too. I prefer the two tv setup tho.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Apr 25, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

were just going through...

…a rough patch right now. baseball mirrors life in that way. ups & downs. i am not worried one bit. we will get it going and it starts tonight. LETS GO BRAVES!

by ledge2 on Apr 25, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice post scott, try to restore some order. the only thing i feel should be done is give Hinske a few more starts. Other than that, everything will be ok.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN..... HEYWARD HYSTERIA IS UNDERWAY

by JKowalek on Apr 25, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

this

he has been playing great, and he always seems pretty focused

by dc_allday on Apr 25, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta feel for Javy...

He got hit pretty good by LA today:

3 2/3 IP, 5 ER

Up to 9.00 ERA for the season… and to think they were already calling for his head.

by strider15 on Apr 25, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally, I’m surprised the Yankees didn’t go for Lowe. Javy doesn’t take kindly to the damn Yankees.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got that right,Javy doesn't like playing for them.

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Apr 25, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude can lay down a bunt too, like nobody’s business. lol

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lowe

is crap, he got most of his good stats from an extreme pitchers park

he had 3/45 left in his contract. he is hardly worth 3/15

he plays better as a GB pitcher in that stadium hell

by a hay on Apr 25, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Lord……

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you lose 2 games to NIese and Maine

I say panic, those 2 would not make many AAA squards

by a hay on Apr 25, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

You're an idiot

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Apr 25, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and you should probably just go back to AA. just saying

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 25, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried

JJ wouldn’t even make the AAA All-East team

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 25, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there...

:-p

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Niese is a decent pitcher. We were favored to lose that game to begin with. And it’s not the loss of yesterday’s game that stings. It’s the combination of losing the games prior to it, which we were favored to win, along with HOW we lost it.

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 25, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

(nods head in agreement)

facepalm

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Baez

he is fast becoming my favourite player

by a hay on Apr 25, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

When I first heard the name Ike Davis, I initially thought about some douchebag that was beating Tina Turner, but she secretly couldn’t get enough of the “lovin”

Now I know dude is legit.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Bye bye, Delgado

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 25, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tommy Hanson...

…will pitch his first career no hitter tonight. i say it before every one of his starts.

by ledge2 on Apr 25, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

this is not okay

I love the Braves but come on. They are playing miserably.

by bravesfantrumpeter on Apr 28, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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