Same Old Same Old: Braves Go to the Dogs, Lose 3-1
by Jacob Peterson on Apr 24, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
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PrintI'm tempted to just reuse my recap of last night's game for this one. Aside from the score, it was almost a mirror image. Braves leave a bunch of runners on early, finally break through with a run, and then immediately give up the lead. The defense wasn't as bad tonight, but it wasn't good, either, and Yunel Escobar made one of the worst baserunning errors I've ever seen, failing to tag up on from third with 1 out and turning a sure sac fly RBI into a double play. I think I speak for all Braves fans when I say that I hope Yunel can get his head back into the game soon. He's an exciting player when he's on, but these mental lapses are wearying.
Jair Jurrjens went 6.2 innings, giving up 3 runs on 4 hits and 4 walks. He struck out 3 and had a WPA of -0.134. He was great through the first 5 innings, but couldn't hold the slim lead. He gave up an RBI double to Jason Bay that tied it at 1, then another RBI double to Francoeur that gave the Mets the lead. Still, at least one good thing came out of this game. We know now that there's nothing wrong with JJ that a little offensive support won't cure.
Mets starter Jon Niese was hardly dominant but the Braves couldn't break through off him. He gave up 5 hits and 5 walks in 5.1 IP, but he struck out 6 and only gave up 1 run. His WPA was 0.069. Manny Acosta (of all people) came on to get him out of a jam in the 6th, and would end up getting the win. Acosta worked 1.2 innings, striking out 3, giving up a walk and no hits; he had an excellent 0.178 WPA. It figures that we'd get the good Acosta today, when we so desperately needed an Acostalypse. Oh well.
Chipper Jones left the game in the 4th with an apparent leg injury. He hurt it while swinging in the 1st but stayed in to strike out twice before being replaced by Martin Prado. He will presumably be out for at least a few games. We'll keep you posted.
We're on ESPN tomorrow night. (TV mute buttons everywhere will be getting a workout.) Let's all take up voodoo between now and then. The Braves need all the help we can give them right now.
Awards (such as they are) after the jump.
Awards
MVPs: Jason Bay-- 3/4, 2B, RBI, 0.196 WPA; and Jeff Francoeur-- 1/3, 2B, R, RBI, K, 0.177 WPA.
LVP: Yunel Escobar for his boneheaded baserunning gaffe. Honorable mention to every hitter but Prado (who went 1/2 with a BB).
MVPILE: Nobody is deserving.
Clutch Play: Francoeur's RBI double, 0.237 WPA
Un-clutch Play: Escobar's gaffe, which led to Glaus unfairly being charged with a -0.186 WPA. (I wish WPA had some way of accounting for defense and baserunning errors like that, but oh well. Just know that Glaus' WPA should be higher and Esco's lower.)
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I figured out why the Braves lost today...
Chipper got injured. He normally hits HRs on his birthday. They would’ve won if he’d stayed in the game.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t remember what movie this is from, but I love the quote…
“This is no time to panic.”
“…….This is the perfect time to panic!!!”
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
Toy Story
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
Thank you. That’s it.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So we're probably not playing tomorrow
Turning into quite the debacle of a weekend for the Braves, who might not even get to play tomorrow because of expected heavy rain.
Great.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
I think most of the heavy rain will be gone before game time tomorrow.
From weather.com:
Showers and thundershowers in the morning followed by a few lingering showers the the afternoon. High 54F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%.
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
The problem is our rotation doesn't WANT to win
In fact they sick, twisted pleasure from losing.
What we need are BASEBALL PLAYERS.
WINNERS.
Men who play the game of baseball and win.
I say blow up the rotation and get:
1. Moyer
2. Petit
3. Wakefield
4. Hernandez
5. Millwood
993 WINS COMBINED
/Joe Morgan
With crappy overpaid vets of course!
by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Apr 24, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
We're not keeping D. Lowe?
D. Lowe knows how to winz…
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's bobby's last season
we can’t afford to have anyone but the best, most proven winners.
With crappy overpaid vets of course!
by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Apr 24, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because it’s April shouldn’t be an excuse for us to play like a shitty double A team
Fire Pendleton. Look for change. Before it’s too late.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll get better as the year goes on
we don’t need to panic
...in dixie land i'll take my stand: rooting for Atlanta
Even if Glaus and Cabrera do “get better,” they’re sub-par.
How many outfield pop-ups were lost today?
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And when I say “sub-par” here, I mean “shitty.”
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes please fire TP!
PLEASE!
For the teams sake – someone write a letter to Frank Wren or TP telling them to take a hike. But not Bobby. No…we can’t fire Bobby. Especially in his last season. That would just be cruel.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We beat ourselves
And the old Braves helped
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
~Earl Wilson
by BeantownVol on Apr 24, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
On 680 the fan they were talking about Escobar’s terrible play. They said Bobby just took off his hat in the dugout. I don’t know what exactly he did with it, he just took it off. But I would have thrown it at Escobar…
The past four games have been the worst I’ve seen in a long time. I don’t mean to be all negative…but this isn’t just early season woes. This REALLY stinks.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's been hitting the ball fairly well the last week
Just nothing is dropping and even when he should get a RBI….he gets a double play. It’s kinda amusing really.
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
First to Worst
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
Sigh, Cheif-Noc-A-Homa is right.
That’s all there is to it.
I heard on 680 The Fan that Yunel could be traded soon if he keeps acting like this.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We’re fucked in the outfield, already…..moreso than the infield, anyway. That would just fuck us worse. Yunel is actually someone that will turn it around. He’s in a rough patch. But that dumbass move today was inexcuseable.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
unless we get Francurer in it
then we have no problems
...in dixie land i'll take my stand: rooting for Atlanta
Yunel plays hard for the most part.
I think he had a brain lapse of some kind. Seems like to me the team is playing pretty tight in general.
I still think this team can be really good because the pitching is good enough.
Still a long season and I'm very optimistic but.....
Pitching is good. Defense isn’t horrible. There’s one glaring weakness that we’ve seemed to have for multiple seasons now and I’m pretty sure everyone knows it: HITTING. PERIOD. We have way too many bad trips to the plate. Can we PLEASE at least consider firing Terry Pendleton’s worthless ass? I know it’s Bobby’s last year and I’m sure he would be too pleased…oh wait, I couldn’t care less because I’m sick of watching my team act like stepping on home plate is a bad thing. Unless you’re Yunel and then you are so damn anxious to get home you just go for it no matter how many outs there are.
Hell, they’ll probably offer Pendleton Bobby’s job after this year. As sad as that is, it’s probably what’s going to happen.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah they will give the job to another angry old white guy.
Is Bobby Valentine still in Japan?
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh cheese puffs.
If they do I’m seriously going to write up a petition. I kno that sounds dorky, but we need to do SOMETHING! If they offer Pendlton Bobby’s job they obviously don’t care about the team, the fans, the players…anything. Frank Wren needs to be fired too.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
FIRE EVERYONE BLOW UP THE TED
OH HELL DONT JUST BLOW UP THE TED BLOW UP THE ENTIRE CITY OF ATLANTA! ESPECIALLY THE 75/85 SPLIT. BLOW THAT STRAIGHT TO HELL.
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…But if you blow up Atlanta you blow up the coke factory! Can’t do that! ;)
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
But there will be no more coke!
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
pretty cool aquarium too
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 24, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
“Pretty cool”? Don’t go there on a Saturday in summer. Could hardly breathe. Day after a Mets-Braves game(we won) and there were Mets fans everywhere, including a family of Mets fans who were extremely loud.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
New Yorkers? Loud?
I have a hard time believing that
Bobby wouldn’t be pleased. Gotta get my game together on posts. I’m better than that. Some how I know that that is very possible but I just don’t wanna believe it. It’s like that’s way too horrible of a thing to actually come true. It seems like I’ve heard people describe that situation…Pendleton as head coach….Revelations maybe? That sounds right.
Anyone else watching Ole Miss/LSU game
Those camo hats are sweet!
With crappy overpaid vets of course!
by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Apr 24, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions
Baseball?
If so, no, I’m not watching it…but I may turn to college baseball if the Braves keep stinking.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yunel got his ass chewed but good from Bobby Cox after the game today. I really hope this lights a fire under some asses, but I doubt it. Weak lineup.
Weak EFFORT.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Weak Effort for sure. But this lineup isn’t going to scare many other teams, even on a good night.
by tennesseejed1 on Apr 24, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
a 3-4-5-6-7
Of Chipper won Kenobi, the Glaus Cannon, McCain/Palin, Dumbass, and the Rook is nothing to go “Eh, no sweat gonna rock these fools”.
But keep hating. It’s actually good for you.
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd start that at 2...
Opposing pitchers already seem to be pitching around Prado. That man is on fire.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
problems with the Brave
Simply put
Glaus .175, Diaz .175, Cabrera .143 are the 4-5-6 hitters, and did anyone expect good Ave from Glaus and Cabrera?
Neither of those will end the year with a .250 average in the best case scenario
Heywood has got more holes in his swing than Chris and Chili Davis, but he at least HR occassionally.
As long as we have noone capable of hitting even .250 in 4-7, the Braves will not score runs
15 games into the season
and you are saying Diaz and Cabrera won’t even hit .250.
I mean, come on.
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think cabrera will
he did not 2 years ago, he was .265 in a stadium which lifted offense (NY), and plays in Fenway park too
he won’t playing in such favourable environment this year
NEW YORK'S BALLPARK IS STILL A PITCHER'S PARK
I don’t know how many times that has to be said….but jesus.
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Wtf are you talking about?
Neither Diaz, nor Cabrera have hit 4th, 5th or 6th in the lineup this season, that I can recall.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And did you seriously just say "Heywood"?
And holes in his swing? You’re serious?
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also on his way to 40 HRs and 160 RBIs...
Are you fucking kidding me?
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
if you think they will keep pitching to him
when he swing at 25% of pitches out of the strike zone
I bet he won’t get to 25
I'm still trying to figure out if you're being sarcastic or dense...
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap, talk about missing the point.
But then again, there is a decent change you are just trolling, so whatever.
by DogDaysofSummer on Apr 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So who’s going to be in charge of going to KFC to get the bucket of chicken for the voodoo ceremony?
Dang now ya got me craving fried chicken and mashed taters.
Also: voodoo? What?
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We're supposed to be working on our voodoo for tomorrow's game....
I’m going to make a voodoo doll of Jose Reyes. I’ll be stabbing pins in its eyes throughout the entire game – maybe for the rest of the season.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That works.
Heck, i say this a lot. But if he wasn’t injured and he was a few years younger, Chipper could whoop Jose’s and Wright’s butts any given day.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I obviously don’t understand what we’re talking about half the time here…what’s Jobu?
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Go watch the movie Major League II....
You’ll catch onto a LOT of what’s said around here after that.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol.
I love watching dumb idiot storm-chasers on the weather channel…
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow…I just realized how random I was.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Allow me to pick you up here musicman. Ahem.
“Cerrano’s looking to sacrifice a live chicken.” “Just keep him busy I’ll think of something.” HereComesBream, how have you not seen Major League?!
I think
What we have here is a gap in ages larger than some of you are assuming.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
By that you mean....?
I haven’t seen a movie…I’m not a movie person, really.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think a lot of folks who have been on and around this site for a while feel we have an influx of either 14 yr olds, or people who post like 14 yr olds or react like 14 yr olds to short term team difficulty. The maturity level of the comments has taken a beating in the last few days. Talking Chop is a pretty serious baseball blog, too many immature posts are not a good thing for the site. Everybody’s welcome, but people are being asked to act according to site standards, and those people don’t seem to be able to, or are not willing to try.
Heyward is pretty good
I'm not singling you out
But as bighop states, there’s obviously been an influx of some less than desirable conduct in general (coming from someone who was called out for immaturity and bringing down the level of discourse) site-wide, and it’s just a snide remark, mostly.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
few years ago
Anyone remember those dialogue “scripts” of the clubhouse from TC a few years ago? I cant remember who wrote them but she was hilarious. Salty was around and alot of baby braves getting sent up and down.
We need to bring back those vignettes.
I’m watching the weather (might just be better than watching the Braves) hoping a tornado might sweep away the NY Mets.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ok...
As long as the Braves get out of town first.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And they leave Pendleton, Melky and Glaus behind. And Escobar too, maybe.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This thread is pathetic.
Just hush.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 24, 2010 7:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Shhhhh!!
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
The Nats having a better record than the Braves is pathetic.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 24, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
I get frustrated really really easily. Rain puts me in a bad mood. It’s pouring here.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 7:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rain makes me happy!
Unfortunately, it rained here yesterday…
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yes please.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 24, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the video clip…
I remember when I watched that, I was eating popcorn. I started yelling. And the popcorn fell out of my mouth. Yuck. But popcorn was worth sacrificing for being able to yell during that monster homer.
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by HereComesBream on Apr 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was trying to scroll down to find someone who has a reputation of making reputable comments… I couldn’t find any.
Agreed
I was going to say that this is probably the most pathetic post-loss thread I’ve ever seen (well, I just did), but you and Scott apparently beat me to it.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
It is pretty pathetic
But in all honesty, so is the play right now. I’m not freaking out or anything but this is starting to become embarrassing. We make mediocre pitchers look like CY candidates
Mediocre at the ML level is still better than thousands
Anyone who is one of the 30 Major League rosters is on the prestigious 25-/40-man rosters for a reason. (debatable) To that capacity, anyone who is playing baseball and getting paid for it, is playing baseball for a living for a reason. Just because guys like Jon Niese, Kyle Kendrick, and John Maine are giving the Braves trouble doesn’t mean that the Braves suck. At one point in their lives, every professional baseball player is the greatest athlete in their school/town/region and was given the privilege to play baseball as an occupation.
When they have a good performance, it’s not necessarily the result of the Braves playing poorly, but sometimes it’s just that particular pitcher is playing to their best talents. If these guys weren’t capable of performing at a good level, they wouldn’t be playing professional baseball in the first place.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Enjoy your posts Roy Hobbs
You’re a bigger man than I for defending the Braves inability to beat “mediocre” pitching at a difficult time for the team and fans! The world isn’t ending by any means but can this get any worse??? The bad new is – we going to be facing the Cardinals for 4 games next. I’m looking forward to May and getting out of the NL East basement.
by Nova Scotia Steve on Apr 24, 2010 9:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
Honestly, I’ve gotten to the point with this team that it really doesn’t matter who we’re playing, we face the same chances we have to win a game as we do to lose a game. Just remember last year, the Braves marched into St. Louis in September and swept them; granted, we don’t have Javy Vazquez any more, but Huddy and Jurrjens should get another crack at them again. If this team gets out of April with a .500, I’ll be content, because that’s sadly better than many of the previous years’ Aprils.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
this isn't a troll post at all
believe me i feel your pain. we have been dominated by the likes of Livan Hernandez and Tyler Clippard. That being said, Maine is awful but Niese is pretty darn good. He got squeezed pretty bad and the defense made him throw a lot more pitches than necessary. IMO he will be a solid SP for a long time if Dan Warthen/The Mets FO doesn’t destroy him like they did Church.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Apr 24, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not just your guys
The Braves got shut down by Kyle Kendrick and Jamie Moyer too. That’s why it seems like 80% of the readers on Talking Chop are about to jump off a bridge.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 24, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ask Phillies fans about Tim Redding. Every team seems to have a really unlikely pitcher that just dominates them. I have hoped more than halfway seriously that the Phillies would sign Redding to a contract and simply stash him in AAA. It’s ridiculous how well he pitches against them.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Apr 24, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
The umping was inconsistent and awful (story of the year) and Jurrjens was pretty badly victimized by the inequities too. I’m not trying to knock Niese by any means, I know that he’s likely going to be one of the better contributors to the rotation this year, but you have to admit that he wasn’t having his best stuff, either. I counted at least five first pitches that were curveballs nowhere close to being something that most of us would lay off of, aside from the bad umping leading to an egregious amount of balls being called.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
The umpiring was ridiculous. My brother described the shape of the strike zone as an amoeba. I think that is a fairly accurate statement. But I don’t think one pitcher was victimized over the other. The past two nights, the umps have had either inconsistent or completely wild strike zones. I wasn’t able to predict what was going to be called a ball or strike for either pitcher.
Such a shame
That Bud Selig made such a knee-jerk reaction to the bad post-season umping, and firing all those umpires. All the wrong ones got fired for mostly calls related to balls in play, and a bunch of inexperienced green umps are all umping at the major league level right now. None of these greenhorns are competently calling balls and strikes with any consistency this season. The National League is on pace to have 200+ more walks league-wide than it did last year.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
If he ever
learns to command the curveball like an early Zito he will be dangerous. But, yes the strike zone yesterday was out of this world. As Gage mentioned, amoeba shaped is the perfect description. There were pitches that caught entirely too much plate to be balls. The outside corner was essentially non-existent, JJ and Niese had to put the entire ball within the plate for it to be called a strike. I haven’t seen it that bad yet this year. Hobbs mentioned we are on pace to have a ton of walks this year in the NL. I would bet that we are also going to have more called strike threes than most years. The strike zone is just all outta whack.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Apr 25, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Summary
Today’s game deserves my comment from last night.
“Shit, absolute shit. I felt like I was watching nine-year-old Little Leaguers kick the ball around the infield. It is one thing to be beaten, either the other team hit better or their pitching was better; it is another thing to beat yourself with errors. Chipper and the rest of the infield needs to get their heads out of their collective asses and play some defense!”
I will add that Yunel is a piece of shit. I have never seen worse baserunning.
by Mr. Glavine #47 on Apr 24, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Oh boy.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know what to say...
I mean, i realize in spring training the pitching is weak, but this offensive drop off from spring is ridiculous… What can be done? They won’t fire TP, Infante will bat leadoff until someone else starts hitting and Bobby will keep trotting these guys out hoping for the three run HR that never comes… What can we do but sit back and hope? Things won’t be shaken up anytime soon
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wait...what?
The pitching is weak? Are you talking about the Braves’ pitching!?
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No i was referring to opposing pitchers faced in spring that allowed glaus and mccann to hit damn near .500… If there’s one thing this team does NOT have it’s weak pitching
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok...
I had to make sure you weren’t insane. There’s a lot of insanity going on around here. It might be contagious.
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Some would argue i’m insane haha
HansonManCrush
by HansonManCrush on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I shake my head at those who are panicking three weeks into a six-month season. Like many others, I’m disappointed at losing four in a row, but this stuff happens to every team during the whole season. The lineup looks different from last year, so naturally, pieces are going to be moved around to determine what works and what doesn’t.
If one were to look at the NL East standings today, first place and last place are separated by THREE GAMES. This early in the season, everyone is still bunched together. No one has run away with anything, so fretting about how much the team is struggling is pointless.
Seriously, take a chill pill.
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
well its only April
just have to get things worked out specifically in the offense. Id much rather have these troublesome times now then later in the season when it really matters. Lets just hope we dont fall behind everyone to soon. April has been frustrating
Well now. I just wasted 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
I suppose venting serves a purpose, but it sure is tiring to read over and over and over again.
Curve: The loveliest distance between two points. ~ Mae West
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