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Phillies - Braves Series Recap

Not even presidential chutzpah could help the Braves in the final game of the series.

It was a tough one for the Braves, falling in two out of three games against the division leaders. The silver lining, or perhaps the even scarier part, is that without the comeback win in game-1 we might have been swept by Philadelphia. Here is the good and the bad from the series... a lot more bad than good.

The Good

  • We were able to come back and win game-1, and we did it with the homerun ball.
  • We only committed one error, so defense remains strong.
  • Our bench was 3-for-6 with a walk.

The Bad

  • Out leadoff batters -- Matt Diaz for two games and Nate McLouth for one -- were a combined 0-for-13 and didn't make it on base once.
  • Yunel Escobar was 1-for-11
  • Our bullpen is being worked hard early in the season. They pitched 12.1 innings in this series alone.
  • Troy Glaus left 9 men on base during the series (of course, he did redeem himself in game-1).
  • Philly starters allowed only 13 hits and 2 runs (0 earned runs) in three games -- the Braves HAVE to start hitting starting pitching.

Series MVP:  This one goes to a non-Braves entity, the Philadelphia starting pitchers. They did their job and shut us down. No one on the Braves is deserving of the MVP title this series.

Series LVP:  Braves leadoff hitters Matt Diaz and Nate McLouth. For whatever reason whomever we put in the leadoff spot is failing to get on base. I don't really have an answer for who to put up there, and I know the Braves don't either.

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Yunel has chutzpah

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I assume you mean that in a not so good way?

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s usually what’s meant with chutzpah. Yunel just has a lot of chutzpah.
Do you know what chutzpah means btw?

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have naches for him, he’s a mensch.

Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.

by TradeAndruw on Apr 23, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

I’m on a bus and i literally LOLd. DIdn’t go well with the other people

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on a bus!!!

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the bus.

Kris Kros??

by Sparhawk on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have a lot of chutzpah to do that,

but if you were on the short bus I will be more understanding:)

by HEYJUDE on Apr 23, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it actually has 2 meanings

Audacity in both the good and bad sense.

Do YOU know what it means?

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Wikipediaing

but they’re wrong. It doesn’t have a positive sense. Never in my life have I ever heard it used as a positive term- it just isn’t.

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the dictionary lesson, Webster.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

really, how? Can I get an example? I’ve never once heard it used as positive (and that would include it being heard in, but not limited to, the following places: Israel, Manhattan, Brooklyn (both Crown Heights and Flatbush), New Jersey (both north and south), Riverdale, Queens, Miami

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree,

I couldn’t find anything positive about the definition of this word, for the nerve/chutzpah of them :)

by HEYJUDE on Apr 23, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

too much kibbitzing about chutzpah on this blog

by traphicg on Apr 23, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never once heard it used in a negative context and i’ve lived in New York as well. Just had it confirmed with a new york jew.

by sunking1056 on Apr 23, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard it used positively

and used it positively myself. Though it is more often negative.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll all be relieved once the guys who are struggling right now start mashing, but it’s frustrating to watch all these wasted opportunities.
 
Getting owned by 117 year old Jamie Moyer does not feel good.

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 23, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

*117,000 year old Jamie Moyer

FTFY

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 23, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yunel will start getting hot any day now. He’s in his “hitting balls right at people” mode.

Hinske or Infante need to be playing first. Glaus going one for whatever isn’t going to cut it. He looks lost up there. It’s so annoying when guys watch strikes go by and only swing at crap. Melky does the same thing. Too many holes in the line-up.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Prado staying above .400 should have been included in the good. Dude never makes errors. That was a fluke.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems the Phillies were placed in perfect position cause I saw a lot of hitters hitting the ball sharply, but right at someone. The Braves hitters had some bad luck in this series too. Hopefully those start falling for hits soon. The leadoff spot and cleanup spot have been sorely lacking.

by Sparhawk on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

In yesterday's game alone

Three innings ended with line drives hit right at an infielder who didn’t need to move a foot.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did some BABIP research for the last ten Braves’ seasons.

01- 290
02- 290
03 – 302
04 – 309
05 – 298
06 – 304
07- 314
08 – 309
09 – 300
10 – 270 and the last 7 days 210!

Once BABIP comes back to a 10 year normal things should turn brighter.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Glaus is not lost.. if victorino doesnt rob him twice against halladay we are all praising glaus. he has been hitting the ball hard a lot and not getting hits. They will come. His BABIP is probably really low

by The Devil Wears Prado on Apr 23, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

love that name. genius.

I don’t think he’s lost either. But he isn’t found.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

and i love your name..

its my fantasy name and ever since prado became the man last year i wanted to make a name for him.. im keeping this one for a while

by The Devil Wears Prado on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a definite keeper.

Anybody not calling him freaking Odarp is the man.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

boo hiss Chief. Calling him Odarp makes him the man

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Owned by a 117 year old, owned by a guy who gave up 11 ER in 5 2/3 IP to the Nationals. No-hot(at least Ubaldo is good). Shutout by a perennial CY winner. All in the last 5 games.

Thanks for finally acknowledging this lineup currently has real issues and it’s not a buzzsaw pitching performance every night. Glaus can’t hit a fastball (maybe one right down the middle if his bat finds it). We have no leadoff hitter, though McClouth actually takes walks, unlike the other two. Cabrera is not a ML caliber hitter. Diaz might snap out of it but needs to stick to playing against LHP to ease his mind from not being able to hit RHP.

Yunel is a lock to come around, but he is taking his struggles with him to the field now, so he is costing the team on both ends, but he will snap out of it.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

If Infante was playing first, we would have 2-3 more W’s right now. Fact.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus needs to be given time to come around, but right now that oak tree he swings it too slow. Get a lighter bat and start hitting some doubles. I love Hinske (I went to Ark and he played while I was there), so I’d love for him to get some regular time. The way he is hitting, he should be more ABs.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. So far, with Infante/Hinske/Glaus….Glaus is the freaking weakest link at the plate. I’m not saying to stone the guy, but a few days off could be beneficial.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Glaus’ body language sends off some weak signals also. He’s just not confident and he doesn’t portray it by sloughing around. I get the feeling he is pressing to fit in and it is weighing on him. That coupled with not getting hits and it’s a double whammy. You can tell Hinske is a catalyst for team cohesion, I do not get that from Glaus. They will give him another month or so as the regular, I think – but as long as Hinske is contributing from the bench he will be right on his tail.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby is...

notorious for abusing the bullpen. However, if our starters were able to get more quality games, Bobby might not feel so telephone happy.

Honestly, I’m still not sure who to point the finger about all of that. Bobby, the starters, or the pen for not succeeding?

by XBEARDX on Apr 23, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Moylan had a fluke roughing up.
Prado had a fluke error.
Heyward had fluke “freeze” at the plate.

You (not like YOU, the informal you) can’t blame Bobby for the loss.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

AND

Mac needs to man up at the plate. We need him. Now.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

instert snide Chief comment about Mac manning up

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

already been insterted. lolol.

You going to any games this weekend?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish

on my way out of town so not going this weekend (and damnit, lumberjack pitches sunday). Althogh this has now guarenteed I go in August

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fun Series

This was a fun three game series to watch. We have some work to do to get to Phillies level.

by homerlanding on Apr 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Honest question

Are you a Braves fan? I know a lot of people like to play the “I’m a realist” card, but it seems like every time I see a comment out of you, it’s always in some regard to how this team’s not good enough, not as good as a previous iteration of the team, or how you refuse to even take part in whimsical support of players on the team by not voting for all-stars. Not that there’s anything wrong with it if you’re not a Braves fan, but you might be better suited to the corresponding team you really like. But if I’m mistaken (your stance on the team is kind of blurry), how about just saying just one thing you like about the Braves? I don’t care if it’s as broad as Hank Aaron’s 716th homer, or you thought it was very nice of Brian McCann to donate one of his spare 60" plasma televisions to Tommy Hanson and Kris Medlen’s bachelor pad, just something at all you like about the Braves.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the Powder Blue unis from the glory days of the 80's......

I have been a die-hard Braves fan since 1979, the first year that I can remember watching baseball. I live in S. Missouri where everyone around me lives and breathes Cardinal baseball but I have stayed true to the only team that I have ever really cared about. I enjoy the team we have now, I loved the teams of the 90’s but what I remember most fondly are the lovable losers of the 80’s. Murph, Horner, Claudell, Raffy, Mahler, Camp, Bedrock, now that was fun. My favorite all time Braves moment happened on Aug. 12, 1984 (bonus points if you can figure it out). As far as the All-Star vote thing goes, when it comes to the ASG I am a baseball fan first and a Braves fan second, I am what you could call an old-school fan. I want to see the best players from that half-season get together and play a game. I don’t care what team they play for or if I have ever even heard of them before, if they are having a great year thats who I want to see play. Hope that clears it up for you.

by homerlanding on Apr 23, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/fitness_60/65_fitness_list.html
San Diego Padres vs. Atlanta Braves
August 12, 1984

This one started out ugly and just got worse. It began when Pascual Perez, pitcher for the Braves, threw at the Padres’ leadoff man, Alan Wiggins, on the opening pitch. San Diego responded by throwing at Perez every time he came to bat. The benches were destined to cleared, and they were — twice. When the dust settled, 19 players were ejected and five spectators were arrested for their unruly behavior. Tensions spread to the post-game interviews when the Braves’ manager, Joe Torre, likened the San Diego bench boss, Dick Williams, to a man named Hitler.

Aftermath: Five players and Perez were suspended for three games, while Dick Williams was suspended for 10 days and fined $10, 000.

by Mr. Sanchez on Apr 23, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very much so, and it is appreciated

It’s not that I’m challenging your fandom of the Braves, I was just curious to see if you were capable of saying anything positive about the Braves. And now I can’t accuse you of being nothing but a pessimist now.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a pessimist in ’95 until Marquis caught the ball in CF.

by homerlanding on Apr 23, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not sure

What about having Yunel or Prado hit leadoff, taking the pressure off diaz and McClouth and allowing them to hit later in the order? Heyward can cleanup in Yunels spot. I also dont think Glaus should be hitting fifth. Im pretty new to the sport though so im asking for interest sake.

I cant stop war chanting....

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Yunel isn’t hitting very well right now, so I’m not sure what the Braves would gain by leading him off. Prado leading off would be a possibility, but Bobby is understandably reluctant to move somebody around in the batting order when he is killing it like Martin is right now in the 2nd spot.

by redwards95 on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fully understand. Dont fix it if it aint broken right

I cant stop war chanting....

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prado, maybe.

Yunel, no. Just wouldn’t work.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

damn it….I swear I hit the reply button. Chief Fail

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would Yunel be bad there?

I cant stop war chanting....

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

When he has men on base in front of him, he’s 10x more likely to hit the ball….as crazy as that sounds, it’s true. Wait for May and June.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is harder to Vidro is he’s leading off though.

by BullManUGA on Apr 23, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball is so interesting in that sense that guys clearly perform better in different situations. what about having him hit second then, seeing as McClouth and Cabrera and Diaz clearly can handle being the first one up?

I cant stop war chanting....

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

We are even for the non reply clicking now. Chief fail meet Running No-clicker

I cant stop war chanting....

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to see Prado tried at leadoff and maybe even Nate #2 given that he takes walks and hit alot of fly balls. He’s not easy to double up. Nate’s career averages don’t really lend to #2 hitters, but his OBP is high enough IMO. I think it’s worth a shot. Prado is a really good hitter and just getting innings started with a man on base works wonders. His career OBP is 50 points over his career average. I think it’s worth a shot and not really sure why it hasn’t been tried yet. Esco had plenty of opportunity to work it at the 2 spot and consistently failed. He is good where he is.

by CharlotteChop on Apr 23, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would try this...

Prado
Infante (at first)
Chipper
Mac
Yunel
J Hey
McLouth
Diaz

Win.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about Hinske at first even? he has been hitting well and im sure he can improve his fielding

I cant stop war chanting....

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

or Hinske there, sure.

Wouldn’t be as many holes. And we would have a lead-off guy consistently getting on base.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

2B – Prado
SS – Yunel (he rakes in the 2-hole, look at the career stats there)
3B – Chipper
C – McCann
1B – Glaus (dude is hitting everything solid..that hits WILL come)
RF – Heyward
CF – Nate
LF – Melky
Pitching Spot

by bashby20sh on Apr 23, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

that could work too. but this bullshit with Diaz and Nate leading off needs to end.

they can’t do it…..(I’ll be nice)……“consistently.”

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it safe to alter Prado’s routine in any way?

"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prado is going to give 110% and make it happen wherever he’s hitting.

So why not 1st?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

He’s basically our lead-off hitter in the 2 spot AS IS

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough. What do you think is going to happen though?

"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow

by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby will stick with what he’s been doing, thinking it will eventually click for someone. And Prado will remain in the 2 spot, basically as our lead-off hitter there.

Here’s the thing though…..this year, maybe for the first time, Bobby may begin to feel somewhat…..pressed for time.

He needs me as his advisor. lol

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

But putting Yunel in the “two hole” is not going to make him “rake” – it’s not the right time for such a move IMO

by Nova Scotia Steve on Apr 23, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently you didn’t watch last year when he “raked” with RISP out of the “two hole.” He statistically hits better out of the 1 or 2 spot in the lineup, that is FACTS. And why isn’t now a good time to make the move? We are 15 games in and hitting pathetic out of the leadoff spot (6-64, .093, 6 R, 7 BB, 12 K, 1 RBI). Can’t let this become a trend.

by bashby20sh on Apr 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

A picture is worth a thousand words

But the picture that the Braves offense painted this series in worth only one; Pathetic.

I am not going to pull a Mark Bradley and scream that the sky is falling, but this was incredibly frustrating to watch. The Braves got beat by Kyle Kendrick and Jamie Moyer. And beat to the tune of 0 earned runs14 innings.

And for the record, the leadoff batter gets the most at bats of any other player. The Braves should make damn sure that that player can handle the role. Melky and Diaz were sub-optimal options in the first place. I am not surprised at all that they haven’t thrived in the role.

by Andy Braves Fan on Apr 23, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Prado needs to start leading off. The problem would be solved.

He’s a force.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

With a deep starting staff...

not possessing a dominant ace it appears, but more than enough to carry a team to the playoffs, plus what could be the best bullpen in baseball, we’ve got the pieces of a playoff team it seems. If Glaus can come around, and one of the 3 OFs can actually produce as a leadoff hitter, we’ve got a very good team. Just need 1B and a leadoff hitter to emerge from the CF/LF mess. I doubt anything is done at 1B unless Freeman really struggles at AAA, but Wren showed last year if there is a problem in CF/LF he won’t be hesitant to make a move well before late July. I wonder how long he waits (that is IF none of the 3 step up and take the role) before considering something to get what we’ve lacked since Furcal left twon.

by Mr. Sanchez on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Troy Glaus was my LVP

9 guys LOB. A disgrace.

War Eagle

by WarEagle86 on Apr 23, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Even with the heroics in game 1?

"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons

by crimsonpride19 on Apr 23, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it weren't for Troy Glaus,

we’d have been swept. Totally the least valuable, you’re right. It’s not like we had any lack of better candidates.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, here's a thought.

Why don’t they come off some change and go out and get a leadoff hitter. Or a true power hitting 1st basmen. Its Bobby Cox’s last year for crying out loud.

War Eagle

by WarEagle86 on Apr 23, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

As nice as that would be

The team comes first, always and forever. No sense in making a rash, potentially poor decision that could jeopardize future seasons just to give the skipper a fond farewell.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a leadoff man, now and going forward...

1B has, hopefully, Freeman ready to take over next year. The leadoff spot though has no heir apparent, and if we could go find us a guy that could fill that role, ideally as a LF or CF although a 2B might work as I think Prado would be fine defensively in LF, I’d make the move in a heartbeat. It’s the one spot we both don’t have, and don’t have coming up soon (I don’t think Schafer has the contact/obp to be a leadoff hitter). If a deal was out there that added that, and not a short fix like Crawford but that could realistically stick around a while, I’d be all for it. Then again, I can’t think of many that would fit the description AND be available (eliminating Bourn, Fowler, Ellsbury, Rajai Davis, etc).

by Mr. Sanchez on Apr 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt we make a move for a lead-off hitter until the end of the season. They’re gonna wait to see if Schafer recovers from his injury.

by mdhenshaw on Apr 23, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

It was let’s win this for Bobby, not Lets go kill the farm system to get (A-gon) for Bobby

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This

It was let’s win this for Bobby, not Lets go kill the farm system to get (A-gon) for Bobby

"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"

by GoBravesNY on Apr 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m NOT all for moving around the order right now. Moving Prado to the 1 hole may fix the problem there, but then who goes in the 2? I don’t think Yunel is a number 2 guy, frankly. So that is basically trading one conundrum for another.
 
If a deal is out there that makes sense and makes this club better either in May or June, then by all means pull the trigger. If those who are struggling right now pick it up, then perhaps we can just leave well enough alone.

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 23, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Prado
Hinske
Chipper

…..I like it. I’d prefer Infante, but Hinske would work fine.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 23, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither are everyday players at this point.

tUMD Hockey: In search of a title! But probably not this year.

by UMDBHIK on Apr 23, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially not Infante

He’s a utility guy and nothing more. A good one, but let’s not get crazy and pretend he can play first. His career SLG is what, .350? If that? Troy Glaus slugs .350 in his sleep.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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