Projecting 5 years out...
by Mr. Sanchez on Apr 2, 2010 12:10 PM EDT
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Free agent moves, trades, draft picks, all sorts of things will change between now, and opening day in 2015, But for poots and chuckles, here's a look at what we have available for that far in the future.
C-McCann is likely still around. Others in the mix are Jesus Sucre and Clint Sammons as Eddie Perez style career backups, or Christian Bethancourt as the young stud ready to take over.
1B-Freddie Freeman in all likelihood will be manning this spot. Possibly McCann or Bethancourt, perhaps Riann Spanjer-Furstenburg, Jake Hanson, Gerarrdo Rodriguez or Edison Sanchez.
2B-Prado perhaps, although it'd be nice to think Myke Jones take this spot over. Kind of the biggest ? iyam as far as who's here in 5 years.
3B-Salcedo or Hicks assuming Chipper has been retired for a year or three by now. Also in the mix would be Donnell Linares, Edison Sanchez, Jake Hanson and Yunel Escobar.
SS-Yunel should still be here, although Hicks, Jones, or Salcedo might be if he's gone.
RF-No commnets needed.
CF-Schafer, Kyle Rose, Matt Young, Cory Harrilchak
LF-Adam Milligan, Cody Johnson, Robby Hefflinger, perhaps one of the IFs finds a spot here like Rodriguez, Hanson, Sanchez, Linares, or a CF possibilty like Rose
So a lineup of perhaps
Rose/Schafer
Escobar
Heyward
Milligan/Johnson
Freeman
Salcedo/Hicks
McCann/Bethancourt
Jones/2B?
Then in the pitching staff you lead off with Tommy Hanson, close with Craig Kimbrel, have Cory Gearrin handling the 8th, and fill in the other spots from Kris Medlen, Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino, Mike Minor, Jair Jurrjens, Jose Ortegano, Carlos Perez, Robinson Lopez, Randall Delgado, Zeke Spruill, Brett Devall, JJ Hoover, Tyler Stovall, Caleb Brewer, Lee Hyde, Mike Dunn, Johnny Venters, EOF, Jeff Lyman, Kyle Cofield, Jesse Chavez, Matt Crim, Brett Oberholtzer, and others. As you can tell, the options for starters behind Hanson (Teheran, Vizcaino, Minor, etc) is lengthy and some could easily end up in the bullpen setting up for Kimbrel. Even if some falter, we've got plenty to form a 12 man staff, entirely from within and all pre-free agency and under arbitration/team control.
Think anyone else can put up a current projection like that for 5 years down the road? Pretty bright future I think, and of them all only McCann, Yunel, and Jurrjens would have been eligible for free agency leaving plenty of money to address any needs opening up.
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I would go along with this, with the slight alteration that in five years McCann will be settling in to his office as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, or become a visiting professor of catchology at USC.
Why not just say he’s touring the globe, curing diseases with Albert Pujols and Stephen Strasburg?
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
There's a reason why it's my sig
You said it, we’re all entitled to our opinions, and one of these days, I too would like to see your rationale to why Pujols is overrated. All I want to really mention for now is that his $100m contract is a bigger steal than Enron, and that higher-paid, less-accomplished, not-as-humanitarian first basemen like Mark Teixeira or Miguel Cabrera aren’t worthy enough to hold his ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
I think Emory would be a better fit academically.
hindsight is 20-13 just like Ted William actual vision- ken tremendous
by heapofoatmeal on Apr 2, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Half of the pitchers you have listed will never throw an inning in the bigs, let alone be on the braves.
The problem with projecting a year, let alone 5 years down the road is things change. Trades, free agent signings, injuries etc. they all happen so fast. José Capellán was supposed to be our lights out closer if not our ace a mere 6 years ago and he is now playing pro ball in Korea. It is likely we go after a free agent bat when chipper retires and frees up that money.
hindsight is 20-13 just like Ted William actual vision- ken tremendous
That's the pessimistic way of looking at it...
but on the positive note, even if as you say, “half of the pitchers” never make it, there are still enough names there to fill out a staff. Potential starters include Hanson, Jurrjens, Carlos Perez, Robinson Lopez, Andy Otero, Julio Teheran, Brett Devall, Zeke Spruill, Randall Delgado, JJ Hoover, Arodys Vizcaino, Mike Minor, Jose Ortegano, Tyler Stovall, and Caleb Brewer, among others. Hit just 1 out of 3 of the names mentioned (all having been said to have stuff that can make it at this level), and that’s good enough to fill a starting staff. I agree that young arms are not a guarantee, but we seem to have hedged our bets with enough talented young arms that you’ve got to assume at least some pan out as expected, and that’s the makings of a very strong staff.
And that's not even getting into relievers...
which is where some of the failed starters could easily end up, and we have already either ready or near ready in Medlen, Kimbrel, Gearrin, and EOF. Perhaps Jojo Reyes has found his spot, there’s Hyde, Venters, Cofield, Chavez, Dunn, Abreu, David Hale, Jeff Lyman, and others. Hit good on 50%, and that’s enough for a core of your bullpen. So while I again agree on the tenuous nature of young pitching, I also again think the Braves have built up enough of a redundant stockpile to insure against that tenuous nature and still come out in a pretty good place.
Capellan was
overrated. everyone knew it except the Brewers.
the problem was that Kolb was overrated, too.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Apr 2, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not really pessimistic,
its doing what’s best for the team. Who says that, around the All Star break we, are in first place, looking good to win the the NL Pennent. But Troy Glaus gets hurt (just as an example) Maybe we package together some of these prospects and make a trade.
Others I left out...
Melky, Moylan, Jojo Reyes, Brooks Conrad, Diory Hernandez, Omar Infante, Matt Diaz, Nate McLouth, and several more could either be around on the bench or in the starting lineup as the old veterans depending on how things play out.
We'd have at least 1 or 2 bigger name FA's/guys we traded for
in the next 5 years. by the end of the 2012 season, Lowe’s (15MM), Huddy’s (9MM), Chipper’s (12MM), KK’s(8MM), McLouth’s (6MM) and Wagner’s (7MM) contract would all be up. I know that we’ll have to lock up some of our younger talent, but we should definately have some free $$$ to spend by then.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
But if things turn out for the better,....
why? We’ve got several pieces there that can get it done. Probably not all, but it seems like enough to get at least a few. Why go outside when you’ve got it from within.
are you not acquainted with the MLB policy of manditorily spending money on FA that you don’t need?…cause thats definately the rule across the league..(out case can be either KK or Lowe, not that im disappointed they are definately talented and can match their salary with their skill)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
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