Spring Training Open Thread: Muts at Braves
by gondeee on Mar 3, 2010 11:00 AM EST
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The Braves will take another stab at the Mets today, this time at their home park of corporate awesomness.
The lineup for today:
Melky Cabrera, CF
Martin Prado, 2B
Chipper Jones, 3B
Troy Glaus, 1B
Jason Heyward, RF
Yunel Escobar, SS
Matt Diaz, LF
David Ross, C
Brent Clevlen, DH
Tim Hudson gats the start followed by Jonny Venters, Peter Moylan, Eric O'Flaherty, Stephen Marek, Jeff Lyman, and Mariano Gomez.
I think it's telling how Cox keeps putting Heyward in prominant spots in the batting order. I had thought Heyward would have been more protected in the order, hitting behind Escobar in the seventh spot, but here he is ahead of Yunel, and he hit third yesterday. It might be a lefty-righty thing today, but Heyward could break up the righties just as well hitting behind Escobar. They sure are putting Jason right into the mix... NO FEAR!
The awesomeness of Jason Heyward not to be understated, he spent much of last night answering fan questions on his twitter feed. I don't know how long he can keep that generosity up, but what a great down-to-earth fellow.
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LHP Pat Misch will start for the Mets, and also scheduled to pitch today are RHP Eddie Kunz, RHP Josh Stinson, LHP Neal Musser, RHP Jack Egbert and RHP Eric Niesen.
From metsblog.com
Outside of Misch- who are they?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Kunz is a guy that has a great sinker anf nothing else. He always has a 60% plus gb rate in the minors.
The Mets are apparently trying to convert him into a starter. Niesen is a lefty who has pretty ridiculous amounts of movement on his pitches, and has a real shot at winning the second lefty job out of spring training. He’s actually a fairly interesting prospect, and likely the only Met pitcher worth paying attention to today.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Those tweets are painful to read.
Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.
Seriously…
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Oh come on...
Give the kid a break…he’s a kid, and they are actually better than what I read from a lot of twenty year olds. I also think he adapts to the style of the tweets he’s receiving….
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Freeman tweets like a normal adult, no excuse for Heyward to sound like an 11-year-old asian girl.
Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.
Agreed. It’s not like he went to college. He has obvious baseball smarts, and that’s all we can ask.
As much as I jump on "texting" language on message boards...
…I have to give Heyward a break here. It isn’t lack of education; he graduated high school and could have gone to college but had the intelligence to know better than to turn down the bonus money he was offered. The language is, alas, the language of today’s youth. It’s not that he cannot form complete sentences or type in proper English, it is that he doesn’t because that is not the convention among tweeters of a certain age.
Anyone know where I may possibly see/hear this game in Texas?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 11:15 AM EST reply actions
there might be a link later on. i’ll find out
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Streams won’t work for me on a work computer…
/sadface
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
It might be a lefty-righty thing today, but Heyward could break up the righties just as well hitting behind Escobar. They sure are putting Jason right into the mix… NO FEAR!
Now how could Heyward break up a righties block if he bats right handed?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
He’s been doing impromptu Twitter interview sessions the last week or so. I think he’s become a little obsessed. He even got Freddie on there.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it: https://www.createspace.com/3407939
www.dropoutproductions.com
Unfortunately....
I think I’m getting a little obsessed with Twitter.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Let's just put an end to this...
Give Jason a number under 50 and declare him to be a major leaguer.
Better yet...
Let’s just give him the ROY and MVP too.
+1
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
And seriously...
thanks for the 2k10 comments. Now the question is can I get the game without the wife bitching it isn’t Mario?
No worries, sorry I didn’t have much to say about other facets of the game. I can say that I find the interface easier to navigate, but unfortunately the music they play is still pretty bad. Let me know if you end up getting it, I’d be interested to see how it plays on the Wii.
I can see myself putting alot of time into the My Player mode, if it’s anywhere near as good as the NHL Be A Pro mode it’ll keep me coming back for more (now I kind of want to try out the modes in NBA and NFL as well). Along with what looks to be a revamped Franchise mode I’m actually somewhat optimistic.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was just for 360, but apparently Wii as well. The Show is on PS3 and it’s a vastly superior game from what I heard.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ya'll are getting out of hand with this.
Next thing somebody will say that hes gonna win the Heyward Award this year too.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Twitter accounts added
FYI, I’ve updated the Choposphere links on the left side of the front page of the site to include all the Braves player/prospects I know of who are on twitter. I’ll try to keep that updated as more come on board.
+1
on the username there, great show
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Mar 3, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
what’d you think of the new album?
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I like it, a few clunkers in there, but they are doing what got them to where they are, which i like. BUT, if you listen to “this addiction” the bridge is exactly the same as the bridge in “goodbye forever” I mean exactly the same. same note, everything. Take a listen…
But I love em, so its all good
What you think Beard?
I thought hurricane season was over........
I’ll have to listen to that. The intro for “Dead On The Floor” sounds exactly like one of the songs off their S/T whose name I can’t recall at the moment.
I agree with your view on the album. All of Dan’s songs are great, but most of Matt’s are pretty poor other than “Lead Poisoning”.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
“Southern Rock”
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
It didn’t work yesterday and that was a let down. I’m hoping it was just first day bugs on the iPhone app.
by dunnytwogloves on Mar 3, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like it might be working today. It says it’s playing, but no sound…hopefully it’ll kick on at 1pm.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I need a link for today!
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 12:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So is this one supposed to be on MLB Network, or just MLB TB
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
TV ..... plus I forgot the ?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
nope, MLBN is showing the Yanks/Pirates.
But they just did a thing on Heyward, and Al Leiter said he was impressed with Heyward’s ability with pitch selection, ie. laying off a curve/breaking pitch. I think the praise from the former players, especially pitchers, are the best
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
And Sean Casey has talked highly of Heyward the past two days. Breaking down his swing.
by dunnytwogloves on Mar 3, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ya’ll should be careful with those streaming websites, I got a really bad virus from one of the links somebody posted yesterday
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions
Hmmm….I almost exclusively use those links during the season, and I haven’t gotten a virus from one yet. stick.tv or channelsurfing.net and others like those are fairly solid.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i’ve never had a problem in the past, either. the virus i got was apparently something relatively new that a lot of ppl i’ve talked to have run into lately. just thought i’d throw it out there.
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Do you know which one, because if it was mine, i feel really bad and am really, really sorry
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
i honestly don’t remember, i’d try to find the website, but lord knows i don’t want to go through that crap again. either way, i was eventually able to get rid of it, so it’s no big deal. it was called “security” something, in case you run into it.
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
all i remember is I posted a link and it popped up with a warning on my mac. IIRC I did mention that. Usually if that does pop up its mentioned
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
yeah, i definately remember you saying that. i don’t think it was that one.
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Jair Jurrjens threw off mound second time, 30-35 pitches today, fastballs and changeups, no problems. Maybe one or two more, then a start.
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Well, I don’t see how that matters. JJ wouldn’t even make a AAA All-star team.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
So have the Braves officially given up on Medlen as a legitimate starter? I mean I initially thought yes, he’s just going to be long/situational relief, but it seems the longer he spent in the bigs, the better he adjusted.
We just don’t have a spot for him right now as a starter, and he’s too valuable to be in AAA.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
A fantastic situation to find ourselves in.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
For our current team, he defines perfection as a long relief/spot starter type.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see Chipper, Glaus and Heyward all go deep.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
If Heyward hits a homerun, I can only imagine myself flying straight up and hitting my head on the ceiling.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Link anyone?
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
I’ve been looking all over the place. I’ll let you know if I find one.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hmm…I’m still not getting anything.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
There we go. Nice.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what she said…on both or your comments.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
well played
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Click on background (the quicktime logo) to get the audio from safari, its comes in MUCH better and clearer..
+1
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently if you have MLB.tv you can watch it directly on your phone as well as your computer.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Same.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
keep us updated suscribers, we love you.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Or give us all your account infos…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha. Nice.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Live streams for games
Hey guys i used this site all last season and i was able to watch the spring training game yesterday with
the quality can vary but it got me through a lot of nights last year having a terrible cable packeage
I thin p2p streams pose the most issue with viruses, so be warned
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
yup, that was the one
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I just looked at mlb.com, and they only have the audio icon next to the game now…it did have the tv link too, but not anymore.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
the worst is, last year they at least did gameday for ST games. Not anymore
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Yeah, I was just looking for that too.
Didn’t they have free mlb.tv last year for Spring Training too?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
How did you find that? All I could find is the live boxscore. Thanks!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Go to http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/, and then click on the game at the top. It took me a while to find it because for some reason they don’t link to it off the home page like they usually do
/sadface
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
The live boxscore isn’t even updating. This BLOWS!
I know it is only ST, but there are some fans out there who care about this stuff. Come on, MLB!
I wish every day that Roger Goodell was the MLB commissioner.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
has the game even started yet?
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Well, someone below was just talking about good D in the top of the 1st.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Fantastic.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
? First time to use this
I just got a stick man batting, not live action. Is this right?
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Welcome to my world…and yes. That’s all we get.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
SNY dropped the video feed.
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
Nope, just going on the radio feed descriptions. They both sounded like that first ball hit woudl be trouble but low and behold the Heymaker got there. Then he charged shallow line drive for the second out.
OF D isn’t important – it isn’t on the scoreboard.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
So what’s up with the Mets not playing any of their starters …for the 2nd day in a row?
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
They’re scared a line drive hit by Jason Heyward might carry one of their players to Cuba.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
c'mon Chipper
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
WTF
Chipper – 1 pitch, GiDP
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
it’s 2010, not 2009!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
sucks that the MLB.TV isn’t working anymore…it’s like I paid for nothing! :-)
At least I can listen to the game.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
The audio should still be g2g.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
ugh
im guessing we dont have video even though it claims to show every ST game?
Not every ST game
Only 150 ST games. What they end up doing is showing 7 or 8 games a day near the end of spring training to make their “number”.
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
i wonder
if Cox would bat Heyward 5th Escobar 6th then McCann 7th
i mean
thats where we all assumed thats where he would hit but i was just asking out of curiousity
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he would do that…and I think that McCann is suited just fine to bat 5th personally. Now I think Heyward should be 7th and then whoever is playing left should bat 8th. That’s my opinion.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
its not a question of if McCann would be good in the 5th spot
its just a thought of a consistent top half of the lineup with McCann sitting out more than most players because he’s the catcher.
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I've long been of the opinion of...
dropping McCann in the order. Not because of his bat, but if we have other quality options, his position of C makes me want him lower.
Heywards up
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
hahahahah!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
They are scurred.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Touche’
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
So what do we have so far, 3 or 4 first pitch outs between the two teams?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions
It’s amazing he’s reached base 4 out of 4 times so far in Spring training…amazing.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
What's more amazing
The kid has barely seen a strike in all 4 PA’s. The one he did see damn near decapitated the Mets 1B
"I think the Tigers really overpaided here" ... 2/21/2010 by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Johnny Damon signing for $8 Million
The MLB is gonna be easy for him, gonna be just like High School..
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sporting a 1.000 OBP so far. Nice.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST reply actions
I'm really confused...
I didn’t think RF’s were allowed to walk. Is this some new spring training rule?
What’s a walk?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's that thing
they do when they go back to the dugout when they’re out? I’m just having to guess though, i have no idea…
God this is so awesome
We might actually see an opposing pitcher reach a 90-95 pitch count before the 8th inning this year with Heyward in for Frenchy
www.takeyourskirtofftombrady.com
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Mar 3, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions
Ya know, I think that has been our biggest problem over the past couple of years – everyone was hacking. How many CGs were thrown against us vs how many we have thrown?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
3-0 to Escobar…he’s afraid Heyward is going to pull a Damon on him and steal 2 bases!
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Heyward doesn’t steal bases. They are given to him as offerings
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
by GoBravesNY on Mar 3, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
actually
i dont want Escobar hitting 6th. All these groundballs. that was almost a DP
Would you put him 7th?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
He’s too valuable to not be 6th. Someone pull up his RISP/RISP 2 outs numbers. Its ST, don’t worry about him
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
He’s always been notorious for ground-balls though.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I know, but I’m reluctant to not give him those opportunities. Wasn’t he best in the majors with RISP?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
That isn’t a skill though.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
what isn’t?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Situational hitting.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Why isn’t it a skill? it so is completly
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I don’t buy that people for some reason hit better in certain situations than in others. Maybe they have a lack of focus in non-situational ABs, but that isn’t really a different skill – it is a different mind-set.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
different mindset translating into different numbers, making it a skill to be able to have that mindset
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Or just a lack of focus during the other times…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Here are his RISP<2 out numbers:
.331 .415 .491 .906
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
even still though
when we have 1 out he hits a GB
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
But it isn’t too far off from his career numbers of .301 .375 .426 .801
I think perhaps that the simple fact that he is a good hitter affects the pitchers in those situations more than Esco himself. I may be grasping for straws with that argument…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
really? go back and look. everything jumps at least 20 points
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Maybe it is a skill, maybe it isn't
we cannot be certain of the future. Escobar may end up with significantly better numbers with RISP than without over his whole career. Not likely, because nobody with a long career has been that significantly better with RISP over his whole career (20% is about the max), but he could always be the exception that proves the rule.
UGh….mlb gameday still shows Glaus batting.
What did Glaus do, btw?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions
Billy Wagner, Troy Gluas need to stay healthy and produce for Atlanta in 2010
no shit, Sherlock
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I was watching MLB Network the other day and Harold Reynolds said that Brian McCann and Chipper Jones have to have good years for the Braves to do well. That was his analysis.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
In other news, the future success of the New Orleans Saints rests on Drew Brees’ shoulders.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t think Chase Daniel will fill in well?
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
Chase will probably have fewer than 10 games as a starting QB in his career.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Quick! Name the last Big XII QB to be successful in the NFL.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
i know i know...
the Big12 doesn’t put out much at all in terms of NFL talent…except Wide Recievers.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Vince Young
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Fail.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
why? he had a very successful year this year
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Chris Johnson. ’Nuff said.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not really
So are we going to call Marc Bulger a success because of Steven Jackson? Try again.
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
No. Because neither of them should be called a success.
Also, Steven Jackson 2009 was not Chris Johnson 2009. CJ turned in one of the best RB performances in NFL history. Teams simply didn’t care about VY or his ability to throw the ball. They worried about CJ.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, and Jackson had arguably the 2nd best year this past year. Plus he was the only weapon, so he was all that was focused on.
Either way, Jackson was a total success
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
He was on my fantasy teams, and I am very aware of how good he was this past season. Having said that, he was no where close to what Chris Johnson was. Keep in mind, that all of this praise for CJ is coming from a die-hard Jags fan…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I know that, I just think you’re underestimating Jackson a little.
Keep in mind this is coming from a one time Ram fan, so you probably aren’t
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Not at all. He had a very good season, but it was nothing like the season that Chris Johnson had.
Jackson got fewer carries, because the Rams D would let games get out of hand early, while the Titans D could keep games close and allow CJ to stay involved.
Jackson’s numbers are also a bit inflated due to his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
aren’t we talking run only? so where do catches come into play?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
We aren’t talking anything specific. We were talking about who was the better RB last season, which somehow evolved out of my challenge to you to name the last Big XII QB to be successful in the NFL. VY does not count. There is not a single team out there that actually WANTS VY as its starter – with the possible exception of Oakland.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Fail
The Rams would have him
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I highly doubt that.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
why not? Bluger is washed up and old. They need a new QB. If they were to trade tomorrow then they wouldn’t have to think twice about drafting Suh. Plus I’d have VY over McCoy or any 2nd rounder if I were them
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Why not? Because VY would not be an upgrade over Bulger. The only thing that VY has on him is youth and legs.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
2 things Bluger doesn't have
so now they can wait a year and get a QB next year. What, should they get Vick?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Vick is far and away better than VY.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I still would say that if VY is the best success you have to offer, the point is close to proved.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
This.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
the Big XII suck with QBs spread offense kills QBs the cant make the transition to the NFL. VY is the most successful one
Which indicates the sad state of affairs that Big XII QBs find themselves in…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
58.7%, 10TD/7INT, 7.3 YPA is “very successful”?
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
in the second half of the season, he was at least above average. He had that gamewinning drive and turned them into one of, if not the, hottest team by the end of the year
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
False again. Chris Johnson did that. Look at CJ’s stats and carries/game in relation to their W/L.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Isnt
wins what matters look at saints 08 Drew almost passed for the record passing yards but the team wasn’t successful
Then they went out and got a defense and had their excellent draft picks grow into their roles. The Saints have been building this Super Bowl team for a few years now.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
thats what im saying tho
last year the Titans had a good D this year they really didn’t show up to many injuries they could have made the playoffs with a decent D
Seneca Wallace
Best back up QB ever!
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.
http://justwaterplease.com/
Yup.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
My boss walked into my cube and I had to take my headphones off…trying to catch up now.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Is gameday just being retarded or are we really all hitting the first pitch every time. Gameday says that misch has thrown only 13 pitches.
apparently
Glaus just made a great play at 1st
Clevlen up now…whoever was up before him grounded out for the first out. Misch is still pitching.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Last pitch from Misch was only 81 MPH…I could hit that!
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Although he just through a FB at 88 MPH (it was a ball though)
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Location, location, location.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
They say that the batters...
…usually are behind the pitchers at the start of spring training. I don’t think this is anything shocking. This also explains why Heyward is doing so well; while hitters are behind the pitchers right now, this does not apply to deities.
Trucker calling in to XM's MLB channel just now:
Caller: “Hey, it’s like the first day of REAL BASEBALL!” (really excited)
Kevin Kennedy: “Oh, so the Mets yesterday don’t count?”
Caller: “No, I mean Major League baseball!”
Classic.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Cora singled, thrown out by Ross trying to steal.
Murphy and Tatis both strike out on six pitches. Three called. Three swinging – in that order(?!).
what makes me mad about this game
is that they apparently have velocity. that would have been nice yesterday
So I just read that Megan Fox says that she has only slept with 2 men – her highschool sweet-heart and her current bf…I call BS on that.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions
Yeah...
Why wouldn’t she want to tell everyone about me????
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 3, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
In more baseball-related news, Nolan Ryan has predicted that the Rangers will win 92 games…I think he may be right. They have a really good team this year.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions
I’ll take the under, but not by much. around 87. Their pitching, I just don’t have enough confidence in it
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I think the Angels will be a huge disappointment. I just don’t see them putting it together, and I think their rotation is vastly overrated.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
The Angels may finish last.
They lost a lot for last year’s team and the guys they got to replace them just don’t seem that good to me.
Dammit, got a call. Glaus is up now with Chipper on first.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Looks like he got 2Ks on 6 pitches.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
How are they pitching him?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
well
mitsch was pitching him in then out
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Fouls off a 1-1 Breaking ball and 3B catches the foul pop.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
I don't believe you.
Heyward doesn’t make outs.
Okay, I'm going to see what happens here and then go do work.
Really, I swear…
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
Did Glaus line out hard to 3B?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Just to recap, we only have 1 hit, right?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions
Lol ya. By Clevland or whatever his name is.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want at least 3ABs for Heyward today
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No worries
The least I could do…since I can’t be there to take pics.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Prado boots ground ball into RJ and runner reaches…runners on 1st and 3rd now.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Pagan gets a hit to LF just pass Escobar and a run scores from 3rd…bases are still loaded.
Mets runner from 2B trips over 3B and falls flat on his face.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
lolMets
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Mets
injuries already. 2 Mets injured getting on the bus over here.
Adams just tripped over 3B
Mets 1 - Braves 0
Ground out to Gomez, force at first, end of half inning.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
hey everyone, just joined in
can i get a one sentence recap of the game so far?
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions
1 pitch.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Heyward made good plays in RF to keep Hudson’s appearance scoreless, but after Gomez had problems pitching.
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
ya know
i would like to practice plate discipline throughout the entire lineup. Not just Heyward
Hahaha
That’s the second best joke of the day, after “Heyward doesn’t steal bases. They are given to him as offerings” from earlier.
Escobar
swings at 1st pitch. Grounds out on 2nd pitch.
Ok thanks
Heyward with another walk, that’s what I like to hear
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions
I’d rather hear double, triple, homer. Although walks are nice.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Personally, I don’t want any rally-killers, like HRs, in his boxscore.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so. He has 3 in 2 ST games so far, and his minor league track record certainly gives us hope!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Flashback to 2009…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know it's the 2nd game of ST but
we are looking terrible against the Mets AAA team.
indeed
have yet to face any of Santana, Maine, Pelfrey, or Perez
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I’ll give you Santana…the rest are arguably AAA talent.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
wow. twice in one day. You really love that comment
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Well, this one was more serious than my last sarcastic one…I really do believe that those 3 guys would not be in the rotation of a large portion of MLB teams.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
maybe. I like Maine. If he was somewhere like St. Louis, you know, with a pitching coach, he could probably be an above average starter. The others are AAA
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Maine may need some coaching help. He certainly LOOKS to have the stuff, just not control. Either way, he hasn’t been very good so far.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
true, the only way we differ is that I wouldn’t call him AAA talent
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I just like to criticize the Mets’ rotation as much as I can.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
well thats not fair
its beating a dead horse :)
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Well, it is just the 2nd game of ST. The Mets aren’t exactly tearing the cover off the ball either…
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
true
the offense definitely takes more time to get into swing
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
too bad
its not their regulars that we have seen yet
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
how does Glaus look on the field so far?
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Clevlen with a deep drive to the outfield, but caught on the warning track.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
more warning track power – just what we need!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Clevland
hits it to the warning track. but out
Stephen Marek is in to pitch now…Daniel Murphy leads off.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Mets 2 - Braves 0
Murphy scores on a single to center.
Mets have 8 hits now.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
welp
Apparently the only people that can pitch are the onese we already know are in our bullpen.
We haven’t seen Heyward on the mound yet, so this isn’t entirely a true statement…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh crap...Mets 3 - Braves 0
A gapper and a triple by Martinez.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
Mets 4 - Braves 0
Thole up now, single to CF and another run scores.
come on Marek…
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
I know it's early, but,
Geez, we can’t beat the Mutts AAA players, frustrating.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
We have quite a few AA players in though..
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
not when you can’t see/hear it.
But seriously, its game 2 of spring training. Cut them some slack. If we’re like this next week, then we can freak out. Not yet
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
not sure i’d even worry next week
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I would, just a little. If all we could do was manage a couple hits and walks by Heyward. I’m not saying we have to have HRs every at bat next week, but if we can’t at least get good cuts and a couple hits, I’d worry a little
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
So I think Marek will probably be dropped off of the 40-man…and hopefully, Mitch Jones can be put on it!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions
Agreed.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
err
i dunno that you want that after seeing that swing yesterday
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oh geeze
None of these guys have played competitive baseball in 5 months. Give em a little time.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they have been swinging a bat though
His swing was atrocious
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
that’s because they’re all playing for jobs. If you look at it, the ones who aren’t hitting for us are the ones who know they have a job
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Um......what?!?!
They still haven’t been playing for months so reguardless if they are playing for jobs it shouldn’t make a difference.
FIRE FRANK WREN!
WE SUCK!!!
Omar Minaya is my hero!
by mvhsbball on Mar 3, 2010 2:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
MAREK
SSSSSUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSS
by Erihury on Mar 3, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
anyone want to predict what cox will say about marek after the game?
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Mar 3, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions
Everyone has bad outings...
I remember EOF having a pretty terrible outing last spring.
I was on Marek’s train last season…I am jumping off after today. He just doesn’t cut it, and it isn’t just today. He has been pretty bad since before the infamous trade.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.talkingchop.com/2009/10/27/1100467/a-2009-season-up-close-and-personal
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
ahh
scroll down to the Moylan’s ERA picture. Everyone has bad outings
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I remember being stunned when EOF made the team over the LOOGY we got from Chicago (drawing blank on name)
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Boone?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
wasnt that it... i thought it was anyway,
by bravesfan1047 on Mar 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I just didn’t expect mvhsbball to forget that
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I know I know ima bad fan….my f*cking fire alarm went off twice in the middle of the night last nice cause the battery was dying. FML.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
That happened to my wife and I the last time we were in Vegas. The casino fire alarm kept going off in the middle of the night…and it was loud as hell! Like a klaxon horn or something.
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
So, I just ordered my TC Annual. I am really looking forward to getting that thing!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions
how much is it?
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
With shipping costs (standard USPS) it was a little over $16.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ordered mine too. Can’t wait to get it.
by dunnytwogloves on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
We’re getting our asses handed to us by a AA team. It’s getting old already!
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 3, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
dang he's good
we need 9 heywards
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not liking the Heymaker…
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I’m ready to put this kid on the Opening Day roster already
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions
you know since I control that kinda thing
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’m glad he didn’t kill the rally with a 2-run HR.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions
Seriously
I’m glad he didn’t HR on a day we couldn’t at least see the highlight
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
haha
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, he didn't walk?!?
RF fail
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Braves tie the game
Heyward Scores from 2nd Freeman from 3rd
You lie!!!
Really!?!?!
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wait......huh? Wtf?
…..Wipe that smirk off your face, Frenchy!!!
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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions
does this mean you’re watching the game?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I wish.
I just picture Frenchy over in teh dugout looking like he’s having a ball.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
damn
Why do you build me up, just to let me down?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
haha. sorry. I just saw it was 4-0 on the (online) scoreboard
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
It’s how he copes with watching his replacement dominating
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 3, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Go on…?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
How did Freeman get on base? Does anyone have an update on everything that happened this inning?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Melky, Prado, Thurston walked
Freddie hit a FC and the Mets got the runner at 2nd
Heyward hit a ground rule double
Escobar hits a 2 RBI single
according to the gamecast on my iPhone
Melky Walked
PRado Walked
Thurston Walked
Freeman grounded out hard to the SS. Thurston out at 2B. Melky Scored. Prado on 3B and FF on1B.
Heyward doubled to deep CF for a ground rule double.
Esco singles. Freeman and Heyward score!
4-4 baby
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Here's a recap from what I've gathered:
according to the gamecast on my iPhone Melky Walked
PRado Walked
Thurston Walked
Freeman grounded out hard to the SS. Thurston out at 2B. Melky Scored. Prado on 3B and FF on1B.
Heyward doubled to deep CF for a ground rule double.
Esco singles. Freeman and Heyward score!
4-4 tie baby
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Who was pitching for the Mutts?
When we scored these runs?
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
lol, thanks
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Thanks, guys. Anyone else notice that it is our youngsters that are getting it done?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions
yea
clearly wasnt chip with his 1st pitch GIDP
by drumzalicious on Mar 3, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Changes
Conrad at 2nd
Hicks at SS
Blanco in CF
Johnson in LF
That would be awesome…but sadly, now it is impossible.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
i might be heading to the DBacks camp this week
if I do, I’ll get some pics of KJ…just for you.
:)
Omar Minaya is my hero!
……………Go Prado!!!! lol
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:03 PM EST reply actions
?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
whoops. missed that Milky walked, too. I thought Prado got it started.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
On base in 5 out of 6 at bats thus far.
Why would you say such a thing?
(passes out into a sweet, sweet slumber…)
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Heyward’s done enough for one day.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
After looking out there and seeing Heyward for 6 innings it must look like we aren’t even playing a RF now.
I want to see more of Young this spring.
He had a hard liner to 3B and a walk yesterday, he’s been improving with his bat and defense every year.
So here's our new lineup:
Blanco
Conrad
Thurston
Freeman
Young
Hicks
Johnson
Boscan
Clevlan
Omar Minaya is my hero!
lol
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
And now, it is 5-4 Mets, according to Gameday.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions
a leadoff walk, followed by a single, then a groundout scored the run.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Doh!!
relentless!!
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
What happened?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Stole 2nd and then took 3rd on a very heads up play w/a slightly wild pitch. Then Blanco drove him in
NEVER under-estimate El Blanco
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I walk away and its 5-4. wow
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
haha. is his game being played in fast motion or something?
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
this, damn keyboard
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
woah. backtrack. When did it become tied?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
this gal is no longer frustrated. :)
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Once you go Brandon, thats what you’ll be demandon…
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Will they bring Heyward back in to pitch the 9th?
-Yellow Jackets, Braves, Falcons, Hawks, and Thrashers fan!
I wish the Orioles would do that with Wieters like he did at GT.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Mar 3, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
What a horrible draft pick.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope MLB puts the highlights of this game up like they did with yesterdays.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
ESPN had the highlights on BBTN yesterday afternoon.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone have an update on the game?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
9-5 Atl
Marek was bad. Heyward was good. Minor was perfect in 1 inning. Hicks hit a 2-run, rally killing HR. The Mets are really, really bad.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Really, really bad?
Based on their AAA team losing 9-5?
No. Based on their inability to field, mental mistakes and general lack of quality starting pitching.
Also, if you really want to be an ass, you should recognize that their AAA team lost 9-5 to our AA team.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
How is that true?
The entire Braves starting lineup today will likely make the opening day roster (with most of them starting), and 3 pitchers that pitched should also be there. The Mets played 2 starters, 3 bench players, and no pitchers who are likely to be on the opening day roster. The game was really decided by a bunch of lousy pitchers having rough outings, so there really isn’t much to take away from the result for either side (besides a few young kids having nice days).
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Atlanta Hits – Thurston, Heyward, Escobar, Hicks, Diaz, Boscan, Clevlen
Atlanta RBI – Thurston, Freeman, Escobar, Hicks
Atlanta Runs – Cabrera, Prado, Blanco, Conrad, Freman, Heyward, Young, Hicks, Clevlen
That is how our AA team beat your AAA team.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Well most of those hits came off of Kunz and Stinson.
The Mets are planning on starting Kunz in either St. Lucie or Binghamton this year, Stinson just reached St. Lucie in late July of last year. The majority of the guys in the game when the Mets gave up those runs played the majority of the year in St. Lucie or Binghamton last year. I don’t see how that constitutes beating the Mets AAA team.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
At best they were beating up on a bunch of AA players.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
DePerron made that assumption, I just went along with it.
Either way, your team is in bad shape this year.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's tough to make any sort of conclusion about them yet.
It’s basically the same team that missed the playoffs by one game in 2008 (Delgado for Bay, Barajas for Schnieder, new bullpen except for Feliciano), so if they stay healthy they should easily be a contender. If they have injury issues like last year, they’ll be out of the race by July. Most of the projection systems have a tough time with them due to the time lost last year for such a large amount of their team. They have quite a bit of wiggle room financially as well, so I’d guess they will be able to take advantage of some salary dumps midseason if they need to.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
yeah, but now home is Citi Field, so it doesn’t matter- you guy’s aren’t going to generate offense
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
It's basically the same park as Shea.
Citifield ranked 22nd in runs accoring to park factor in 2009…Shea was 21st in 2008 and 23rd in 2007 (and dead last in 2006). The dimensions are almost identical between the two. The Mets have always played in pitchers parks, and it’s not like the opposition doesn’t have to play in the same field.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
The MSM makes too big of a deal about Citi because the Mets didn't hit HR's there.
When guys like Santos, Berroa, Castillo, Jeremy Reed, Angel Pagan, and Dan Murphy make up most of your lineup it’s not really the parks fault. They actually hit more HR’s at home than away last year.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
um no. Just look at the difference in distances, plus Citi plays like a pitchers park anyway, Shea played like a hitters park. Plus with the weird walls and everything. Didn’t you read the editorial a while back criticizing spending money on FA’s to try and generate more HRs instead of using that money to move the walls in? geez…
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Shea was not a hitters park at all, did you even look at any data before coming to that conclusion?
You should check out the numbers from Baseball Reference or ESPN before you say that. According to both sets of data Shea was one of the better pitchers parks in the majors. According to how the parks actually played, they were both pitcher friendly to very similar degrees.
The park really doesn’t matter though in context to the 2010 Mets, as both they and their opponents have to deal with the same park.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
numbers, please. No, I don’t care for numbers, because I’ve been to enough games at Shea that frankly, those numbers lie. Especially with the wind from the water almost always carrying the ball out. Forget that. It really isn’t the same team that missed the playoffs by 1 game, because then you guys had an effective starting rotation. Johan actually scared me. Now, frankly, Johan doesn’t, Ollie can’t pitch to save his life, Maine still needs a pitching coach, and I couldn’t tell you for the life of me who the other two pitchers are.
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I don't know how to argue against the "Those numbers are just wrong, I've been to games there argument"
But to answer your question about the rotation, it was Pelfrey and Pedro (who had a 5.61 ERA) in the last two spots. It really wasn’t a very good rotation, they just had a very good offense.
Here’s a non numerically based report on Shea. Here.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
you can’t really, but to be fair I never said they were wrong, they just don’t account for the whole picture.
This year (2010) I think the Mets don’t have that much of an offense (please, Bay isn’t the answer) and virtually no pitching. Go through it. Half of the team is coming off injury, the center to your offense (Beltran) isn’t even back. Plus, although I’m no expert, but I don’t think your fielding is that great either. I don’t think its too early to make conclusions about the Mets. Tops, you guys have a win pct of .475, maybe .500 if you get lucky.
(please, please, please, please, please don’t say Wright is the centerpiece of your offense. he isn’t.)
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Frenchy will save them…..
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Mar 3, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Just using their UZR/150 numbers for the last three years (or in Murphy's case 1 season), they come out as exactly 10 runs above the average team.
Plus/Minus would tell us that they were 38 runs above average in that same time period. The defense isn’t out of this world, but they won’t be terrible.
The offense won’t be bad either. Reyes is leading off, Castilo and his .387 OBP are in the 2 hole, and the 3/4/5 hitters all had wOBA’s over .380 last year. The Murphy/Francoeur/Barajas trio sucks (although Murph isn’t awful), but the top half of the order matches up with just about anyone once Beltran gets back. Pagan had a .358 wOBA last year, so he’s at least an adequate fill in (Beltran is expected back in late April/early May).
The pitching is the huge question mark. If the Mets get anywhere near 2008 levels of production out of them (4 of the 5 starters are the same) they should be fine. Only 2 guys had a sub 4 era that season, so it’s not like anyone is asking them to turn into the Braves rotation.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Those defensive numbers are just their projected starters
I didn’t want to bother with the bench players since I’m not 100% sure who those will be.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Okay, so defense is fair.
But Reyes isn’t leading off, or so is the word. Plus, once Beltran gets back you could be fighting to stay out of the cellar. One black hole is enough to bring down a team. Two? Killer (see Anderson, Garret and Francoeur, Jeff in one lineup). Having those three can negate anything done by the rest of the lineup.
How about we leave the pitching aside?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Fair enough on the pitching...projecting any of tham other than Johan would be an exercise in futility anyway.
Jerry is claiming he’s going to toy with hitting reyes third, but I really don’t put any stock in it. He claimed that he was going to do that last year as well, and nothing ever came of it. Even if Pagan ends up leading off, He hit for a .350 OBP last year with double digit steals as a part timer. He’s a capable leadoff man for a month.
As far as the Beltran injury goes, It may very well end up being a blessing in disguise. The injury is going to assure Angel Pagan gets regular playing time for the first month (he was worth 2.8 WAR last year in under 400 PA’s). If Francoeur struggles for the first month and Pagan continues to impress, I could see Francoeur losing his job when Beltran returns. There really isn’t another position on the roster where the Mets could offer the kind of quality depth they have in center field (Fernando Martinez will be waiting in AAA as well). It was only arthroscopic surgery, so it really doesn’t look like anything that should be an issue going forward. If Francoeur is hot for the first month, then the Mets find themselves in a good situation as far as outfield depth goes.
As far as the black holes go, Barajas is going to generally be one. Francoeur and Murphy may or may not be, it’s hard to say at this point. If Francoeur is, I’m sure he’ll be sitting since Jerry is on the hot seat already. Either way it’s hard to compare the lineup to last years Braves because when Francoeur was dragging down the lineup it really wasn’t a very strong 1-5 they were running out there. Escobar struggled for the 1st half, McClouth wasn’t there for most of that time, and Kotchman was pretty bad. Prado also didn’t establish himself as a regular until midseason. The Braves offense in general picked up in the 2nd half, and LaRoche and McClouthdidn’’t hurt.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
I should make this clear...I don't think the Mets have a realistic shot at the division this year
I have a feeling Philly will run away with it unless they get hit with some key injuries. I just don’t think they should be counted out of the wild card hunt yet either. With relatively good health they ought to be fairly close at the trade deadline and they certainly have enough in the farm system to go after another impact player (and may be one of the few that doesn’t have to worry about salary).
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Again I disagree, French is almost a lock to be a black hole. I’m sorry. Turkey Underwear or not, he’s a black hole. It was on the scoreboard when I went last year at one point (no joke. there was a black hole over his name).
There’s nothing in your minor league, thats a known fact. I haven’t seen anybody talk highly of it in a while.
Plus look at the NL: fighting for the WC is: Braves, Marlins, Phillies, Cardinals, Cubs, Brewers, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Giants, Rockies. Take out 3 as division leaders thats still 7 teams better than the Mets. Plus who would they get at the deadline that could make them any better? They have sluggers…
I just don’t see the Mets doing anything for the next couple years until they get some sort of pitching staff
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Without putting together another huge post, most publications have had the Mets farm system ranked as just about the middle of the pack.
Sickels had them at 13, Law had them at 16. They are also one of the few teams that won’t be losing any of the guys on their list to the opening day roster, so they should climb by mid-season.
As far as the Wild card hunt goes, I don’t really see any reason that the Mets can’t compete with teams like Milwaukee, Arizona, San Fran, Chicago, and Florida. All of those teams have major questions. On paper the Braves and Rockies both look better at his point, but that’s not really enough to say that they will perform to what their expectations are.
As to who’s available at the deadline, there will likely be just as many big names available this year as there were last year. Any pitcher, Catcher, or First Baseman that becomes available would likely be an upgrade.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Yeah, they’ll climb, but like 2 spots tops. Not impressed. therefore, they really can’t get anyone at the deadline.
And no, I don’t see them passing most of those teams, here’s why. Almost all of those teams could stay at least on par with, if not outhit, the mets offense (except for maybe San Fran) and all could definitely outpitch the mets (except for maybe Milwaukee). So I could see them pass maybe one or two, not make a dent in the standings
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
I guess I don't understand how you don't feel they have enough to make a trade at the deadline if they need to.
They easily have more in the farm system to offer than Cleveland got in either the Lee deal or the Martinez deal last year, and they Could have easily beaten the Granderson deal, the Lee deal, or the Vazquez deal this winter. The only trade I can think of in the last year that they may not have been able to match was the Halladay deal (and I’d be inclined to think Martinez, Mejia, and Davis would have topped that package). They are also one of the few teams that won’t require other teams to eat salary. They may not have the best farm in baseball, but they have alot of good prospects that will be major league ready within a year or so, which tend to be the types of guys deals are centered around. Guys like Jason Heyward are great for making the farm system look good, but those types of guys just aren’t traded so it really doesn’t matter if the Mets have them as far as their ability to deal is concerned.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
we could argue this forever. So why don’t we just stop?
I also don’t think the Mets are going to make a deadline deal, and Jerry and Omar will be fired sooner rather than later, but for another day, another time
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
He should scare you. Johan is still an excellent pitcher. Very ignorant to ignore the number. Shea was a pitcher friendly park. It would be stupid of them to waste money on moving the walls in. If Wright isn’t the centerpiece who is, Jeff?
Johan’s armor showed some kinks last season. He can still be very good, but he isn’t as scary as he used to be.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Look, Johan is good, top 10; but not elite, so he doesn’t scare me, like say Hanson does, or will in 3 years.
Heyward has already walked, singled, and stolen third base in the first 2+ innings today. Consider me officially terrified.
by PhillyFriar on Mar 2, 2010
Thats scared. Johan just doesn’t do that. He’s aging, has lost a little bit on his stuff, and frankly just can’t mow you down like Hanson could. He just doesn’t scare me when I look at him on paper.
Wright isn’t the centerpiece, either Beltran, or Reyes (is/are.. i’m too tired for grammar). The team collapses when Reyes can’t hit, and Beltran was the center of that lineup when they went 7 games with the Cards in the NLCS. If I had to choose one, I’d say Reyes
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Again, whatever helps you feel content.
It was just a bit entertaining that with yesterday’s loss, the cry was that it’s only a spring training game and that all that matters was a solid performance from heyward.
today, however, a win, is (for some reason) a performance that predicts seasonal placement and condemns the mets to a dismal 2010. it was amusing enough to come back to this board and find post after post of analysis based on preseason.
I think it’s a mistake to write the Mets off.
I would have said the Mets were really, really bad whether they played today or not.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 4, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
As I posted below
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
You’ve been taking the lowest possible outcome of the Mets offense and pitching, which is fine. All I’m saying is that there’s a decent chance that you’ll be disappointed.
If I didn’t know any better I would’ve assumed that the Braves had won the division these last four years.
If I didn’t know any better, i would think that the Mets had a decent rotation and a good offense, based on some of the posts that I have been reading.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 4, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
Minor was perfect in his appearance. Good to see!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions
DOB Twitter
Chipper Jones just said in clubhouse, of Heyward: “I will be shocked if he’ doesn’t break camp with us.”
Better DOB Twitter
Get rid of him: Heyward popped out to third with two out and runner at first in fourth inning. He made an out. Both PAs today vs. lefties
Does DOB lurk?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
DAMN
I go to my meeting with us down 4-0 and we end up ahead 9-5…what the Hell!
I see Heyward got a double and Hicks with a HR…good job guys!
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
You need to go to more meetings. I want hear that you have 7:35 PM meetings from April to October.
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 3, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry, I’ll be at the Gwinnett Braves home games most nights doing their photography, so I won’t be watching many Atlanta Braves games unfortunately.
Dave
Suwanee, GA
http://www.ten1photography.com
If I haven’t told you before……THAT’S SUCH A SWEET GIG!!!
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 3, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
wait, when on earth did the game move past the 7th?
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
A little bit ago
Pretty sedate 8th and 9th innings. Minor pitched 8th. Can’t remember who closed but it was 1,2,3
sweet. In that case, I’m out. see everyone later
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Props to the young ones,
sounds as if they are the ones that pulled out this win.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Lyman pitched the 9th.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
We just put up 600+ comments
for an exibition game that wasn’t even available to a large majority of our posters. To quote BMac, “That’s pretty neat.”
Omar Minaya is my hero!
I think yesterday’s have over 800.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 3, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
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