Spring Training Open Thread: Mets at Braves
by gondeee on Mar 10, 2010 12:30 PM EST
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The Braves take on the Mets for the third time this spring. Jason Heyward apparently has a sore back from running into the outfield wall in last night's game, and he is sitting this one out. Jeff Francoeur also didn't make the trip with the Mets, as New York brought what looks to be their C-team (which begs the question, "why didn't Francoeur come along). Here is the Braves lineup:
Nate McLouth, CF
Martin Prado, 2B
Chipper Jones, 3B
Eric Hinske, 1B
Melky Cabrera, RF
Matt Diaz, LF
Omar Infante, SS
David Ross, C
Derek Lowe, RH
Following Lowe on the mound should be Takashi Saito, Kris Medlen, Kyle Cofield, Mariano Gomez, and Jonny Venters.
I'm excited to see if Lowe can continue his success, and to see if Cofield can come out and show us something.
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Hello afternoon game thread, I missed you.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions
How bout Werth’s beard last night? Good lord, that was impressive.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
He frightened my nephew. Looked like the Geico caveman.
"Now, here's a fellow attempting to ride a bicycle. But he's having some trouble, isn't he? And do you know why? "
~sighs~ "Why?"
"Because he's a Scot!"
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Do work Bravooooooooooooooossssss
-Dont Stop the Chop-
by HawksBaseball2 on Mar 10, 2010 12:43 PM EST reply actions
Perfect opportunity
for Bobby to try hitting Diaz leadoff. With all the righties at the bottom of the lineup, I’d like to see how Nate does hitting 6th. oh well… Guess I’m resigned to the fact that we’re going to have a platoon in the LF/8 hole
I've been saying until Heyward.....
Remains healthy for an entire season I’m going to temper my excitement.
It is kind of hard to fault the guy for being a little sore from running into the wall while aggressively playing defense. Could also paritially be a function of playing an afternoon following a night game.
At any rate, I don’t think there is any reason for concern here. It is only the second day off he has had since ST began.
I don't see the big deal either.
All the reports say he could play, and if this were the regular season, he probably would play. But it is spring and he’s played a lot already, so why not give him the day off?
Yeah, I thought when I saw him hit that wall,
he’ll be sure tomorrow. I don’t think it’s any big thing, just giving him the day off because it’s ST. I think he would be playing with the sore back otherwise.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Sore not sure
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
3-0 Mets
Lowe isn’t doing so well thus far. Just gave up a homer.
Not good, especially against their C team.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Much better than another K, he's not been impressive in the leadoff spot.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
yup
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
iphone
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
reply fail
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm dependant on what I read on here.......
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Braves 3 - Mets 3
Hits a grounder, off the pitcher to the SS and out to first. 1-6-3 putout.
End of first.
OK, now let's see if Lowe can hold.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Does anyone know if this one is on the radio anywhere?
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Just found it
1340 AM. Thanks.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for this nugget.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
So happy we were able to get rid of him.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Brian Jordan was awful last night. Everything out of his mouth was just plain incorrect.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t talk about Brian Jordan. Thats Gondeee’s buddy now that he works for FSS.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
I swear that I’d heard Jordan before, but I don’t remember him being so bad. He said that Melky was going to bring alot of power to our lineup!
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ortegano was an embarasement to Braves baseball last night.
Did any of Y’all see him “try” to pitch. I know it’s ST, but geez, he sucked.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Would have liked to see it, but alas, DirecTV had a blackout for a game 700 miles away that didn’t count.
You didn't miss much,
I would have to say it was the worst ST of the season. Of course we were playing the Phillies.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
I did send an inquiry to DTV about the blackout. A quick response suggested channel 617 in lieu of Peachtree Network (which they don’t offer), but the more complicated question about the spring games needs to be investigated… it would be nice to resolve since several more are on the docket.
I think I can guess the answer.
The game was televised on Comcast SportsSouth (CSS). Therefore, MLBN will be blacked out in CSS’s viewing area because they are using CSS’s feed. (They aren’t independently producing the telecast.) Because, for obvious reasons, DirecTV doesn’t carry CSS, you can’t get the game if you are in the CSS area but don’t get CSS. It isn’t a baseball territory issue, it is a cable/satellite issue. CSS makes the broadcast, so they want people to have reason to switch to them for having the broadcast.
I called Customer Service, and got a guy that was totally clueless. His first response was “Sometimes teams black out games to get people to come to the actual game”. I told him it was a spring training game in Florida, and that doesn’t make any sense. His second response “I don’t see a Braves game listed. There is no game on right now.” I told him we were staring at a black screen with “Atlanta Braves vs Philadelphia Phillies” as the title. I then hung up.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
He probably took a break after that call.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
was really looking forward to seeing him, had a real bad outing, probably not that strange in ST
There was nobody in the bullpen the whole time. It was his mess to clean up. Pissed me off. I actually thought we would win a game I went to.
I understand it's ST, and we have to see what a pitcher has, but he should have been taken out for his own good.
That had to kill any confidence he had in himself.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Yep, me too :(
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Diaz walks.
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Hola mis amigos!
I love the afternoon gamethreads.
I had this thought yesterday: Does Chipper Jones have a single RBI in ST so far?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions
Medlen still pitching
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Nieve bats for himself... wacky.
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Nieve, then Pridie ground out
1-2-3 inning for Meds.
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Ross with a double
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Cody Johnson pinch hits for Medlen
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And he grounds out to 1B, Ross to 3rd
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Now 2
McLouth grounds out
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Prado walks on 4 straight pitches
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I just looked something up: did you guys know that in 2008, JoJo had 12 games in which he gave up 3 runs or less?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Anybody see Torii Hunter’s latest verbal diarhea? He’s got some ‘splainin’ to do!
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
he refers to dark skinned latino player’s as “imposters”.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
Yeah..
what’s up with them dudes trying to look black?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I missed it. Was it good?
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Full quote:
As African-American players, we have a theory that baseball can go get an imitator and pass them off as us," Hunter says. “It’s like they had to get some kind of dark faces, so they go to the Dominican or Venezuela because you can get them cheaper. It’s like, ‘Why should I get this kid from the South Side of Chicago and have Scott Boras represent him and pay him $5 million when you can get a Dominican guy for a bag of chips?’ … I’m telling you, it’s sad.”
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Yikes.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry..
besides everything else, that’s just stupid. I mean, it makes no sense whatsoever.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
lol
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
That's a big bag of chips...
that A-Rod’s getting…….
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Chipper with a double!
Ross and Prado score, 5-3 Braves.
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Chipper Jones...
Met killer.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Hinske with a single
Chipper scores. 6-3 Braves.
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M-Cab grounds out to 1B.
End of the 4th.
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Thanks for the updates, guys!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions
I gotta go make a sandwich.
You’ll have to live without any updates for a few minutes.
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Are you going to use some fine ham?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sadly, no ham on this one. Salami, pepperoni and turkey with provolone.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
sounds better than my lunch
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I won’t lie. It was rather tasty.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
O'Brien Tweet
Lowe leaves after just one rocky inning (three runs, five hits, two strikeouts). Waiting for word from clubhouse as to whether any injury.
Somone needs to get Lowe some blister cream.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I was just thinking the exact thing!
Get outta my head. :)
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
If signing one of the better pitchers in the game is his worst move, I am ok with that.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking of the 60mm, long contract, for a pitcher of his age.
If he was pitching well for us, no biggie, but for that kinda $, I have high expectations.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
4.67 ERA
1.51 WHIP
111 SO in 194 Innings.
88 ERA+
1.76 SO/BB
Yeah, he was very mediocre good last year.
He was worth $12M last year. I would much rather have that on our team than on the Mets, as those were his only two likely destinations.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
This again?
I thought you would have gave up using the Fangraphs dollar values as if they actually mean anything after that post where you kept going on and on about what a horrible contract Joe Blanton had just signed at $8 MM a year, and then I pointed out to you that Fangraphs says that Blanton has been worth more than $8 MM in every single season of his career.
Hey cool. Let me go dig up old arguments and use the fact that I won them in my current discussions too!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Usually when someone loses an argument they stop making the same one. But here you are still trying to use the Fangraph dollar value mechanic to say that Lowe was worth $12 MM last season.
Which he was. You never proved that fangraphs was bad – just that I was underestimating Blanton’s value.
I don’t see how my underrating of Joe Blanton has anything to do with how good of a pitcher that Derek Lowe is.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
So, according to Fangraphs
We overpaid by 3 million already, in the first year of his deal? And he has 3 more left?
And don’t forget that the approximate going rate for 1 WAR, this offseason, definitely dropped-significantly. About $3.5 MM per. If he repeats last year, we’re talking about $9.45 MM in value.
That would mean we’ve overpaid, already, by $8.55 MM over 2 years. Assuming he repeats last year. In order to the WAR $$ for this offseason, he has to have at least a 4 WAR year.
I think that while Lowe is not worth his contract, and probably won’t be, to call him the worst signing ever is a bit extreme. It isn’t like the guy hasn’t been good for us.
He has been very solid and reliable and actually had a decent year last year – even though it was one of his personal worsts.
It’s like Chipper – horrible year by his standards, career year for most players.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
He was like the 57th most valuable SP
in the major leagues. He got paid as though he was much better than that.
Agreed. He got paid like he was better and he gets treated by us like he was worse.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and you were probably right about Blanton
Just looking at the WAR$$ number doesn’t tell you all of the pertinent details. Everything has its own context.
Phillie chose 3 years of Blanton(plus some marginal prospects) over 1 year of Cliff Lee. The issue is that Philadelphia likely has a very short window (about 2 years) of being championship level because of guys like Utley, Howard, and Victorino all being due big pay-days.
One year of their current crop with Halladay AND Cliff Lee would have really made them favorites to go to the World Series, and afterward they could spent that 8 million again the next year for someone like Erik Bedard or Justin Dushcherer to be a third/fourth starter.
So you honest to [whatever deity you choose], believe that Joe Blanton was worth a $9.7MM contract last season, and that the Phils are getting him at under value by signing him for $8 MM a year, and not that your original assessment of Blanton was more or less correct, and that the fangraph’s system isn’t an accurate measure of value?
The Fangraph’s system is designed to represent the value of replacing a WAR value IN FREE AGENCY.
The issue is, of course, that a big part of this amount is the unpredictability of Free Agency, you get players like Oliver Perez and Braden Looper who sign for $12 MM a year last season, and then produced negative WAR seasons, this inflates the value of a win in free agency.
Their system means that you might have to spend around $12 MM in free agency to replace Lowe’s win value last season, but that’s because it takes in to consideration that there’s a solid chance that you’ll sign a guy to a big contract and he’ll play like crap, and then you’d have to sign another guy or two to make up for that guy that sucks. That doesn’t mean that a team should consider the season that Lowe produced last year to be a good use of $12 MM dollars.
The actual value of a win in baseball (not based solely on the FA class) is around $2.3 MM or so. This is low, of course, because there are many young cost controlled players. Personally, I’ve found that if you take the ACTUAL win value, and the FA win value, and find the median between the two, it’s a more accurate assessment of what a win is actually worth to a team.
And there's also guys like Roy Halladay
who make $12 million, but gives you 7 WAR. There’s steals, and there’s busts.
No. I don’t. I still think that Blanton is being over paid. But you said it yourself – it is based on the Free Agent market.
Let’s look at Lowe’s free agent class: AJ Burnett, Derek Lowe, Oliver Perez, etc.
Who pitched closest in value to what they got paid? Derek Lowe.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
He might not be over paid
But he was a bad signing for the Phillies, who should have kept Cliff Lee and gone for a championship this year.
I agree completely.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Closest between the actual contract and fangraphs’ dollar value?
Not looking over everyone, but Burnett signed for $16.5 MM, and was valued at $14 MM by fangraphs. Which is closer in value than Lowe.
Unless you count Smoltz who was valued at $6.6 MM by Fangraphs and probably made around $6 MM in actual money when all was said and done. Then I guess he was the closest.
without him...
we keep Vasquez and have a great deal more financial flexibility this year, last year, and going forward.
If only all things could be looked at with 20/20 hindsight vision.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Do we honestly need him last year?...
It’s a gamble, and not anymore than the year before, but we could have tried without him. Maybe sign a lower level FA or just go with what we did and spend the money on Dunn instead of FUGA. Vasquez deal, sign KK, so you got those two, plus Jurrjens. That’s a decent 3. You got Hudson coming back down the stretch possibly so you only need 15-20 starts until then (Jojo?). Then there’s Glavine, maybe plan on a full season of Hanson, or let him start in AAA and replace Medlen or Reyes in late May/June, among other options internally and externally.
At what cost?...
And miss the playoffs by 6 games, or 26, you miss the playoffs. Kind of like horseshoes and hand grenades.
Again, hindsight is great.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not really much other way to look at things...
you can try foresight, but you’ll be wrong more often than not. The only way to evaluate things is after they’ve occurred and you can assess the effects.
So, just like the Tex trade, you pull that trigger 10 out of 10 times.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
You may...
others might have disagreed at the time and felt vindicated in their opinion by how things ultimately played out.
Possibly. I wasn’t around here when Tex was traded, but I can tell you that the places I was active in, not one person was upset with the trade. Most of us (and by that I mean about 80%) felt that the trade would give us the best offense in the NL and take us to the WS.
I was around here for the Lowe signing, and I can tell you that the vast majority of us were excited about it. The ones who weren’t were the ones who still wanted to trade for Peavy. Lowe was the best SP available and we went out and got him.
Now, to be fair, some of us were not ecstatic about the price we were paying, but at some point, we need to accept the cost of doing business in Major League Baseball today.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 11, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
And at one time...
80+% of people thought the world was flat and the Sun revolved around us. Majority opinion doesn’t mean much.
by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 11, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Now you’re just being difficult.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 11, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
And justin isn't?...
I’ve said a few times on the deal cb hates so much, I did not think that put us over the hump with problems in the pitching staff both bullpen wise with Wickman and following Smoltz/Huddy in the rotation. We had too many holes to fill for Tex to put us over the top, so bad deal in giving up that much with so many other holes around. And Lowe I felt at the time was just too long, and too much. He’s a decent pitcher, but at that price I didn’t think he was worth it. Justin can cry hindsight all he wants, but some people can use the effects after the fact to show why their opinion at the time has proven accurate.
by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 11, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Were you against the Lowe signing from the beginning? If not, then shut up. If so, then congratulations, you might be right.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
You really can be a disagreeable douche
fun conversation.
by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 11, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Majority opinion does mean something when we are discussing opinions on something.
Someone’s opinion on a fact is irrelevant, but someone’s opinion on a subjective issue is totally relevant.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 11, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
And majority opinion can be wrong...
or based on incorrect facts, or sometimes the idiots outnumber the intelligent.
by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 11, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
When things are black and white, like say, the sun being the center of the universe, then yes, people can be (and were) wrong.
However, when saying something was a right decision or a wrong decision (something that is subjective), no, opinions cannot be wrong.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 11, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
If you say so...
but if not “wrong”, they can certainly be misguided, foolish, mistaken, or many other descriptive words of that ilk.
by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 11, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. However, if someone were to consider trading for one of the best 1B in the game to help get to the postseason, or signing the best available free agent pitcher as good moves, then it is hard to suggest that those opinions are any of the descriptive words that you chose.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 11, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
We've carried this on long enough...
especially since if I recall correctly, we’ve already hashed out Tex in length.
But trading for a 1B, when you’re pitching staff isn’t up to snuff for a post season run isn’t much help. It’s like a junk car and you fix the bumper, but leave a busted transmission. May look nicer, but still doesn’t work.
And best FA pitcher is considering others available. While Lowe may have had the best results in the past, it is not inaccurate to say it could be misguided, foolish, or a mistake to pay a P in their late 30s $60m/4 years.
by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 11, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s wait a little more than one season before we start throwing comments like that around, shall we?
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
What have we told you about using common sense around here???
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
But seriously...
if he can’t bounce back and pitches at the same level or worse than last year for the next 3, that’s a pretty awful move. That and Tex for Kotch/Marek are the two worst off the top of my head. It looks good through 20/20 hindsight but not at the time, but if only it was Morales instead.
If he does pitch poorly this season I will fully agree with you.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
No
You have to decide NOW.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
haha
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 11, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Russ Adams hits a triple past McLouth
Carter scores, tie game. McLouth maybe shouldn’t have dived there…
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." ~George Carlin
so what did we miss? Last I saw it was 6-3…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Something like...
Single, Hessman grounded out and moved the runner to 3rd, then someone hit a double.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Santos pops out to Conrad at 2B
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Freeman makes a "nice play at first"
Inning over.
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Who was pitching?
Is Meds still in?
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Saito
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
He's not been very impressive thus far, imo
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Just joined in...Yikes,
what happened to Lowe?
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions
Got shelled.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Diaz grounds out(?)
The play-by-play is taking a back seat to talking about Mike Hessman.
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Infante with a single to RF
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Yes. 3 ER, I believe.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus.
I’m trying to have faith in Wren, I really am. But Chavez, Saito, Lowe, McLouth, FUGA, are all Wren products. And Wags isn’t looking like a dominant closer at age 50 either.
The only ones you mention that hold any water
are FUGA and Lowe
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well you can’t use Chavez. We were bent over a barrel there by Soriano, and we got something in return for him.
Saito is a wait-and-see candidate. You’re right about FUGA, and I’ll give you Lowe for now.
McLouth was a stroke of brilliance. A great, affordable contract for a guy to play centerfield with an above average bat, and we gave up what? A prospect still living off the hype of a good half-season, a lefty pitching prospect we didn’t care for, and Charlie Morton. It was a damn steal
That's not to mention
He actually traded Francoeur (great move to get a breathing body for him).
The GREAT signing of Troy Glaus. A really solid move to add Hinske (IMO).
Hey,
if the jury is still out on Wags and Saito, then it’s still out on Hinske and Glaus too.
Not for the money
Those guys were steals. Even if Glaus trips and breaks both legs before camp breaks, you can’t put that on FW. A half season of average play from Glaus is easily worth more than $2 million
Well, if we hadn’t jumped on signing Saito so early, we would have had the option to keep Soriano and not be so much “over a barrel”.
It’s still too early to write him off, but his age and the way he was handled with kid gloves last year combined with how he’s pitched this spring are worrying.
lies and damned lies
Soriano is making $7.25 million with performance incentives.
Saito is making $3.2 million with performance incentives.
this
we couldn’t afford Soriano any way you slice it.
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
We could have worked something out with Soriano, we were apparently ready to spend $4 MM or so on Damon. We’d have also had more power in any trade talks if other teams believed that us keeping Soriano was an option, even if it really wasn’t.
4 million
with deferred money. Anyway, Soriano was an arbitration case – it’s basically guaranteed he would’ve seen 7.5 million, we couldn’t have just “worked something out”with him.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Braves don’t like signing relief pitchers, with low marginal value, to long term multi-million dollar deals. It doesn’t make as much sense financially. Soriano wanted a long-term deal, he was not going to take any one-year offers, and in arbitration he might have taken us for 8 or 9 million.
Instead, we’re on the books for one year of $3.2 million and we’ve got guys like Kimbrel, Moylan, and Gearrin on the cheap in the future.
for how much?
7.25 million plus performance incentives. The Braves couldn’t afford him…
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Damon would've made 2 million this year
3.2 + 2 = 5.2 million, not 7.25 minimum. Plus, who knows the Braves plans, they could’ve got rid of Diaz’’s contract if they got Damon.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
So far...
based solely on his numbers with Atlanta and NOT with Pittsburgh, he’s been more of a hole in our lineup. And his defense is really not that great.
his defense is slightly below average
for center, that’s not bad. And, last year with us he was still decent even though battling nagging hamstring injuries and having vision problems.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
He played average CF defense last year
League average CF defense = really good. And a .342 wOBA from a CFer? That’s basically Grady Sizemore last year.
Standards too high, anyone?
Oh come on, you cannot compare him to Sizemore. He has half the range of Sizemore and not much of an arm. There are no stats on the amount of balls he could’ve made plays on and let drop in for base hits.
Actually, UZR is the stat that shows you that. Not exact balls he could’ve gotten to, but it shows you his range.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, he's looked sharp.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Minor that is...
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
not to mention
re-signing Hudson and trading Vazquez
by nathan rothschild on Mar 10, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Huddy’s typical year > Vazquez’s typical year.
And Huddy’s doing it for less money.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
11m vs 9m
Vazquez was consistently awesome last year. Some guys pitch better in humid conditions. Huddy is a huge question mark.
Vazquez >> Huddy
by nathan rothschild on Mar 10, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
So, one great season in a career...
…means that a pitcher is far better than another pitcher just because it happened to be last year? That defies logic.
Funny you mention that about humid conditions being the reason for his success last year. He was better away from Atlanta. And how is Huddy a huge question mark?
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ross hit a ball as far as you can...
…without going out. Flies out to RF.
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Freeman grounds out to SS
End of the 5th.
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Mariano Gomez on to pitch
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Some guy I’ve never heard of with an unspellable name its a single
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Mike Cerviniak (sp?)
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hey-OH! http://www.instantrimshot.com/
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I get excited about this team every year, but I really DO feel good about the Braves this season.
In retrospect, I kind of knew I was kidding myself last season when I got excited about this team. I had reservations about a ton of positions, but then got caught up in the hype of a couple of rookies (Schafer and Hanson). I really didn’t feel good about this team last year until opening weekend, when we should have swept the Phillies but for a bullpen explosion.
This year, I really DO feel good about this team.
Pridie strikes out
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Base hit by Tejada up the middle
Runners first and second
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I feel good about our offense esp if glaus keep swingin the bat like he has so far and chipper has a “normal” year.
If these two players click and heyward bats .300 with 30 or so dingers we can give the phillies a run for their money or win the WC easily
I am a little concerned about our bullpen
I was hoping Moylan would get the closer role,
but maybe FW thought his arm might fall off after last season of over use.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
If JHey goes .300/30HR, then the bullpen can probably mail it in!
As an aside: 100 minutes since Lowe left the mound – no word on whether he’s okay.
He’s probably fine. He seems to be a feast-or-famine kinda pitcher, as we saw last season.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, he may have just told Bobby he didn't have it today.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
I feel like Lowe says he “doesn’t have it” almost every day these days…
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I will say that it’s not unusual for a vet to go out and throw, say, nothing but sliders since that’s what he wants to work on. As soon as the other clubs figures it out, they sit on the slider and shell him.
Murphy hits into a FC
2 outs, runners at 1st and 3rd
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Hessman’s up again, the ass-kissing continues.
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Hessman grounds out to 3rd
Middle of the 6th
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Parnell on to pitch for the Muts
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McLouth up first
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
From Gondeee on home page:
From a DOB Tweet:
Blister under r. big toe led to Lowe’s troubles. It’s messy, cropped up after 3rd pitch. Said he taped it whole career until this spring.
And here I thought his blister problems were on his hand…
I vote that we nickname Derek Lowe, “Mister Blister.”
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Rubber arm, crepe paper skin.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
A blister under big toe after only 3 pitches,
sounds like a crop of $hit to me.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
I totally called that way up in the thread.
lol
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
McLouth K’s looking at a “96 MPH fastball”
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Zing!
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Conrad fouls out to 1B
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Thurston K's swinging.
End of the 6th.
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Kyle Cofield on to pitch for Atlanta
Blanco in CF
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Carter walks
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Adams pops out to LF
Or, “Brent Cleveland” if you’re Ben Ingram
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Santos hits into 4-3 DP
7th inning stretch
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Mitch Jones flies out to LF
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Cofield,
Other than the walk, it sounds like he did well.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Brett Cleveland up to hit
Or Brent Clevlen if you’ve been paying attention
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Base hit
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Hicks up
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Grounds out
Clevlen to 3rd
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
6-6
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Sammons flies out to RF
End of the 7th
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Venters on to pitch
Carter grounds out to SS
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Sorry, not Carter. Bowman. Hard to keep track with all the subs.
Pridie singles to RF
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Tejada hits into 4-6-3 DP
Middle of the 8th
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Blanco up first in the bottom of the 8th
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Strikeout
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Freeman grounds out to 2B
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Matt Young up to hit
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Ground out to 1B
End of the 8th
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Cory Gearrin on to pitch the top of the 9th
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Murphy grounds out to 2B
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Thanks for the updates
im still here
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Mar 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the play by play, Fine Ham.
I’m working on things so I can’t comment but I am still looking over!
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions
Not a problem.
Seems like we had quite a drop of in attendance when Heyward’s not in the lineup.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks man, I'm always here, Heyward or not.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
haha true
that and most of the regulars have been replaced by the young guys
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks,
for calling me a young guy!
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 10, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
haha...
I meant that regulars like Chipper had been replaced with scrubs, but you can still be a young guy if you’d like
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Heck of alot younger than most of you guys & gals. 47 soon. I’m practically done.
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 10, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
The fact that you’re 47 and can effectively communicate on the internet puts you ahead of most other 47 year olds. My mom’s 52 and the other day she asked me how to get to Google.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m half Japanese, we’re “born with it”. lol
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Mar 10, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Thole strikes out.
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The announcers are talking a lot about Gearrin’s motion and how deceptive it is because he’s a sidearmer.
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That's good to hear.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Base hit to RF by Feliciano
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Steals second
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Error by Conrad
Runners first and third, 2 outs
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I have no idea who just grounded out to SS
But inning over.
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Is the game still tied?
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Yep.
We’re up to bat going into the bottom of the 9th
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks man,
now let’s get a run and win this game.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Eric Niesen (sp?) pitcher for the Mutts
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Thurston up
Mitch Jones next (I think)
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Bottom 9, 1 out, right?
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by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions
Thurston K's swining
2 outs, bottom of the 9th, Mitch Jones up
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3-1 to Mitch Jones
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Walk
Runner on 1st, 2 outs. Brett Cleveland up up.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
2-2 on Ben Cleblan
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Full count
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I am liking this Mitch Jones more and more…I hope he makes the team!
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by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions
I agree. I think having that kind of power threat on the bench would be a nice asset.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, he has shown patience at the plate.
I like him also.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Strikeout.
Free baseball!
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I didn't know they had OT in ST.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
They don’t go past a certain inning, I think. The other day I saw the final score was a tie after the 10th.
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
The announcers mentioned something about “one extra inning being standard in ST.” Dunno if that holds any water though.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I think that's right
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by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Kimbrel on to pitch
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1st pitch was 97 MPH. No complaints there.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
The last one just now was 98
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I like what I hear
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Davis walks after a full count
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One of two outcomes that Kimbrel is capable of.
The third-base umpire ran into the outfield and retrieved the biggest chunk. "It's a f***in' potato."
by alligatorimpersonator on Mar 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Basically
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, he's gotta have command of it.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Bowman K's
83 MPH breaking ball (slider?)
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Mets pitchers
Niese
Nieve
Niesen
Niether… ha.
I thought the box score had a bunch of typos at first
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Hernandez steals second
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Pridie strikes out swinging
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Pop out to CF
Middle of the 10th.
Kimbrel’s line: 1 IP, 0H, 0R, 1BB, 2K
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typical Kimbrel
walk, K’s and gets out of it with 97 mph stuff
Brandon Hicks up
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Walk
Runner on 1st, no outs
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
good start
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
this old man took a nap
haven’t said thanks for the play by play…..so thanks
No problem.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Sammons bunts hicks to 2nd
1 out, runner on 2nd
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Blanco up
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Grounder to second
Hicks moves to 3rd, 2 outs
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Freeman up
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1-2 pitch hits Freeman in the back
Jesus Sucre to bat
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Runners at the corners, 2 outs
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Freeman steals 2nd, uncontested
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
HOME RUN
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haha, awesome
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Are you serious??
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Braves win 7-6 on a walkoff from Jesus Sucre
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9-6, yeah. I temporarily forgot about the 2 runners on base.
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by FineHamAbounds on Mar 10, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I am serious.
hahaha
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OMG, what an ending!
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Sweetness. I would just like to point out, the bunt did not help this outcome at all!
: )
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions
Gotta love waiting for the 3-run HR
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by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus Sucre is coming along nicely it seems...
the next trade bait C we come up with? Not Salty or Flowers, but he could be a nice piece for a deal.
Been real guys.
I gotta go and get some of those stupid cable box things from Comcast.
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Thank you,
and yes Comcast closes soon.
When asked what aspects of Heyward’s game need improvement, one scout simply replied, "Nothing."
Yes.
Thanks for the play by play, what a way to end it.
hahahah
+1
(this is a joke that will never get old)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
lol
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Mar 10, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
So what was the final score?
The radio announcers said that it was officially 7-6 Braves, because Sucre got to first base and the runner came in, and then Sucre ran to his teammates, so he didn’t round the bases. Is that true? They may have revised that statement, because I turned it off as soon as the game was done. Either way…good job by Sucre!
by forgotten_glory on Mar 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, gameday changed their score from 9-6 to 7-6
This is hilarious. Two over the fence singles in less than 10 days.
But this time, the 3-run HR only counts for 1 RBI!
HAHAH!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Mar 10, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
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