Braves Officially Sign Edward Salcedo
by gondeee on Feb 23, 2010 3:43 PM EST
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I just got the official announcement from the Braves PR staff of the signing of 18-year-old shortstop Edward Salcedo of the Dominican Republic. Here are some quotes from the press release:
"This is a significant signing for us," said Johnny Almaraz, the Braves' Director of International Scouting and Operations. "We feel that Edward is one of this year's most talented prospects. He has outstanding makeup and the combination of his fielding and hitting ability make him one of the top international players we've seen in a while."
Bill Shanks has some addition information on the signing, including the bonus, believed to be $1.6 million -- the highest bonus ever paid out by the Braves to an international player. Shanks adds this about what we can expect from Salcedo in the coming weeks:
It might take a few weeks for Salcedo to get the visa to come to the States. Until then, he will continue to work out at the Braves’ complex in the Dominican.
Once the deal is signed, Salcedo will be in the Braves minor league complex and will compete for a starting job in Rome. It's not out of the question for Salcedo to see action this season in High-A Myrtle Beach.
Tremendous signing for the Braves. In one move they have made up for the lack of a first round draft pick this year and secured a solid prospect for possibly the weakest positions in the organization -- the left side of the infield. Salcedo could be a future replacement for either Chipper Jones or Yunel Escobar.
Where would Salcedo land on the Braves top prospect list. Here is Kevin Goldstein on that subjuct:
Plenty are asking, and the answer is that Salcedo would be somewhere in the 5-7 range on my Braves Top 11 list based on early info.
Keep in mind that there haven't been too many scouting reports on this kid in several years. Most talent evaluators also like to wait to see these guys in the minors before pushing them too far up the list. There is a lot of hype associated with Salcedo, so we'll have to cut through all of that and see how he does on the field before we heap too much praise on him.
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Fantastic
Great signing. Not getting my hopes up but this guy could be a big steal. Really excited to see how he develops.
This is great news
this kid looks like a legit prospect for sure. Lets not rush him tho. Esco has SS under control for a long time and Chipper (hopefully) has at least 2 more seasons in him.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
I hope he stays in Rome through June...
just cause I’d love to see Teheran, Vizcaino, Devall, and Lopez when they come to town (Augusta), with Salcedo, Bethancourt, Spanjer-Furstenburg, Myke Jones, and Robert Hefflinger out in the field.
...Twins? Nice, ESPN.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Feb 23, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I’m guessing they’ll shift him over to 3rd immediately. Haven’t heard too much about him but supposedly he’s got an yunel-type arm, good power projection and is mature beyond his years.
why?...
if he can develop at SS, the move to 3B isn’t that hard. Plus, it gives us options depending on Escobar.
well
SS and 3B work out differently. If he develops as a 3B he would immediately start working on bulking up
by drumzalicious on Feb 23, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'd think bulk will come naturally as he matures...
but can’t really go wrong with putting him in either spot I’d guess. Just would think if the time came, it’d be easier to slide him from SS to 3B than 3B back to SS.
Given our lack of depth on the left side of the infield, an aging Chipper, and assuming the Braves will want to lock up Escobar long term with a McCann type contract, it could make sense to do it sooner rather than later.
by paulyicecubes on Feb 23, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. Keep him at SS. Moving to 3B really isn’t that hard for a good SS.
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And isn’t it generally preferred in the minors to keep someone at SS as long as possible to increase perceived value, i.e. Gordon Beckham?
only thing that concerns me
Via PerfectGame USA:
“Edward Salcedo is a FA SS with a 6’3’’, 190 lb. frame from La Vega, Dominican Republic. Big League body, strong and athletic. Smooth, easy defensive actions, easy plus arm, can really play SS. Aggressive swing, power projection, deep load from wide base, good bat speed, geared to drive fastballs, timing will be an issue. All the tools to be a top player. Potential 1st round type if in draft. "
hope he can hit more than fastballs
yea
can you imagine him Heyward AND Freeman? those are some big guys
by drumzalicious on Feb 23, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds similar to Hanley Ramirez...
we can hope (at least as a player not counting attitude/personality).
Immature comment:
“Deep load”… What an awesome and wrong phrase. Can we just agree to nickname this kid Edward “Deep Load” Salcedo? That’d be the best double-entendre nickname since the Big Unit.
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and now I’m starting to get crampy, nooooooooo!
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by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 23, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
right
Baseball is a game where a curve is an optical illusion, a screwball can be a pitch or a person, stealing is legal and you can spit anywhere you like except in the umpire's eye or on the ball.
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Braves in five years
Hanson, Jurrjens, McCann, Heyward, Escobar, Salcedo, Medlen, Freeman, Vizcaino
That’s a pretty solid core, right?
no
you def forgot Schafer and considering CF is the most important OF position
by drumzalicious on Feb 23, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
missed some..
Maybe Johnson in LF.. Delgado, Teheran, and Minor at SP, Kimbrell at Closer, Betancourt at C
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Feb 23, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Yunel to third, Insert E/S at SS. Sick. WE HAVE A BACK UP PLAN NOW!!!
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We sure he’s 18?
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by !Vive la Francoeur! on Feb 23, 2010 6:33 PM EST reply actions
I’d say at this point it’s positive. If the reason he wasn’t singed before was because of his age you can be pretty sure that’s all been straightened out and that the 91 birthday is correct.
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So, he lost (allegedly) 3/4 of a million dollars and 2 years of stateside development because he said he was born two years earlier than his actual D.O.B.? It’s pretty unusual to fudge the D.O.B. in that direction. He likely would have gotten even more money in ’07 if teams had known he was 16 as opposed to 18.
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The problem was he was only 15...
…when he signed, which is against the rules of MLB.
To my knowledge, the only people that ever claimed he actually signed were newspapers. The Indians were close to signing him in late July/ early August so given that his birthdate has been established as July 30th, 1991, he would have been good to go age wise at that point.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
I'm not exactly sure
what happened, and I doubt many people are, but I know that cavebird is right about the reason why he changed his age
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Hang on, lets run through this logically. Reports of the Indians signing him came out almost 3 months after he had turned 16 going off his current listed birthdate. Scott Boras proceeded to shop him to the Yankees and others, generating offers in excess of a million dollars greater than what the Indians had offered. At which point, the Indians withdrew their offer. The age investigation into him being older than the listed 1989 date heated up and Salcedo wound up not signing. It doesn’t make sense in any explanation. The Indians deny signing him and only a single Dominican paper reported, with one Cleveland newspaper directly having directly cited the Dominican paper. It’s a very strange situation but there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he was making himself older in order to sign when he already was eligible in the first place (if the 7-31-91 d.o.b. is correct) in that August through December time frame.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
I don’t know what happened, and frankly, I don’t care. MLB says the kid is 18, turning 19 at the end of July, and he’s a Brave. That’s all I care about.
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It’s a good deal for the Braves. They got him for half of what it would have cost them two years ago and he is now actually the same age as what he was thought to be two years ago. I’m glad he’s a Brave. I just find the circumstances of his original “signing” to be very peculiar in that the situation is reversed of the usual circumstance. It’s very strange that a player or person in charge of the player would overstate his age, I’m almost inclined to believe he didn’t know his own D.O.B..
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
There's been rare cases of it if I recall correctly...
but those cases involved someone under 16, which it appears Salcedo was not.
Wilson Betemit was 14 when he signed.
Adrian Beltre was signed early too. I think he actually tried to use it to be granted free agency after he had spent a couple seasons in the minors and a season in the big leagues. That rushed development must have been why he didn’t receive professional training on why we wear a cup.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
with one Cleveland newspaper directly having directly cited the Dominican paper.
That’s pretty direct…
I admit it doesn’t make sense. I guess I should have said that cavebird is not making it up out of his ass because I also heard that somewhere but don’t remember where. I’ve also heard that it was Boras’s fault which seems more logical, like you said, but then why would he even bother to change his birth date? The whole thing is very confusing
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yes
mlb did the research on it. he was born in July 30, 1991.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Feb 24, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Cool
I was expecting something by today and it went down,I’m just getting in and I caught this on mlbtraderumors.
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You can never have too many prospects. This is so much more of a better use of funds than signing broken down veterans. I wish we could’ve signed Chapman too instead of Saito and Wagner. There’s a good chance both those guys and Glaus are on the 60 day DL by August. One of our young guys could’ve closed I think, it’s not like any of those old guys will be with us when we start making our championship runs in the future anyway. In my humble opinion of course.
i agree with ur basic premise that signing young projectable talent is a better use of money than signing old veteran….but theres always an exception. and for our team, with an aging third baseman and Bobby leaving, the window for another Chipper Jones WS could be closing soon. someone has to play 1B and we need some dudes in the pen…theres and the guys we signed we’re great signings FOR US, bc they didnt require long term commitments. We have too much talent on the way, specifically Kimbrel and Freeman, to block guys in those spots. Of course the reason those players didnt require long term commitments are the exact reason it makes them signings that arent great under certain circumstances,
We are competing this year with the guys we signed and thats the only way we could compete and maintain our long term financial flexibility, so there’s no reason to dislike the Saito/Wagner/Glaus signings unless you think there was someone on the market who provided the same results.
You can’t only concentrate on young guys, you’ll end up with money wasted on guys who provide nothing to your team (for example if we drop 50M on Chapman and he never maes the majors). we can safely assume GLaus /Saito and Wagner will make some kind of positive impact this year, even if they get injured it wont be immediately all at the same time.
wow is this stream of consciousness style…organization is stupid
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Old guys
Don’t be sure they all couldn’t get hurt at the same time. I can see a grounder to Saito, him and Glaus both throwing out their hips covering first and Wagner having to have Tommy John from pointing and laughing too hard. I know we need a bridge to the young guys, I’m just having some fun. Chapman was 30 mil for 6 years I believe though.
i couldnt remember what Chapman signed for so i made a big nbr so that i sounded better
and if that scenario happens im giving up (i dont know what im giving up , but im giving it up)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Apparently we've known this since November
“Starting around November 16th (2009) hordes of girls have had the debate of Team Edward vs. Team Jacob, presumably about Edward Salecedo”
Now who the f*uck Jacob is, I have no idea
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My name is Jacob...
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Mine is too, but its worked out well for me. Like when I girl I know said she had “Team Jacob” panties, I responded “Ya damn right you do!”
by bravesfan91 on Feb 23, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Pictures or it didn’t happen
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by GoBravesNY on Feb 23, 2010 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
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by buzzdeadwax on Feb 24, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
i'm pretty excited
can’t get enough of these kind of guys at this point. looking forward to the competition between salcedo and the guys we take in this year’s draft over the next few years.
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by Bravely going forward on Feb 23, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions
fanshot batting practice post
Under the video of another batting practice posted in a fanshot, there’s a statement about Salcedo entering the US with fake documents and that he may have issues ever being allowed back in the US. Surely the Braves would have worked this out already, but it’s a little un-settling.
Give it up for Mr. Wren!
I am really starting to like what I see from Frank Wren. Yes, he may not make the most aggressive moves for the big league team, but he definitely has done a great job building up our minor league. He has an eye for the future, which he already proved when he gave the boot to Glavine in favor of Hanson. I’m getting excited!
Rome is going to be the hot ticket this year with that pitching staff and now Salcedo with Betancourt, RSF, Mykel Jones, and Hefflinger!
What Did He Sign
I read in the post that when he gets his visa he will sign his deal and get a physical and the deal will be finalized.Let me ask some of you what’s keeping some other team from swooping in and screwing this deal up for us.If he didn’t sign his contract to make him a Brave what did he do for the Braves to make this annoucement.Is there something else in place to keep a Brave until this thing is finalized.Don’t get me wrong I want him to be a Brave but I read it might take a few weeks for him to get his visa.Is there something I’m missing please fill me in
I guess I read it wrong every other site says it’s offical.I was just wondering why he hasn’t signed his deal to make it offical.I don’t know there are others who have better knowledge of how all these techincal things play out.I just don’t want this young man to be taken away from us sort of like that Furcal thing.
by BravesMania on Feb 23, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
SALCEDO > Damon + Anderson!
THESE are the types of signings I want to wake up and read about! Hopefully the Garrett Anderson crap was just a smoke screen to let us get this signing done!!!
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