Tommy Hanson: Worst Hitter of 2009?
A while back, I happened to be at FanGraphs, examining the Braves' 2009 hitting stats. I was mainly interested in how bad our opening day OFs were (the answer: unequivocally terrible). But one thing struck my eye: Tommy Hanson's brutal hitting stats. Check it out: In 46 PAs, he struck out 20 times and walked once. He put up a .054/.079/.054 (AVG/OBP/SLG) line, good for a .133 OPS. That's right, Hanson's OPS was worse than Greg Norton's batting average. Needless to say, that's hard to do, even for a pitcher. I don't think it was just bad luck, either. My recollection of his at-bats is that he always seemed like he'd rather be somewhere else, ending many at-bats with half-hearted swings or botched bunt attempts (though he did apparently get down 8 sacrifices).
I wanted to know just how bad Hanson's numbers were when compared to an average-hitting pitcher. So I decided to do some research. Below, I've included some information on the 5 worst hitters of 2009 who had at least 40 plate appearances. I also did the same for the 5 best-hitting pitchers of 2009 (no surprises there, really). Finally, I compared these numbers to the average pitcher to see just how valuable a good-hitting pitcher is (and just how damaging a hitter a guy like Tommy Hanson is).
One disclaimer: Obviously, these are some tiny sample sizes. They almost certainly do not reflect these players' true hitting abilities. This kind of stuff is fun to look at, though. (Also: Tommy, don't kill me. You're going to be one of the best pitchers in the league someday soon. You could go 0-for-your career and I wouldn't care.)
I used 2 metrics: OPS and wRC per 70 PAs. For those unfamiliar with it, wRC (or weighted runs created) is a measure of how many runs a player produces based on all the components of offense. Higher numbers are better. I scaled each pitcher's totals to 70 plate appearances so they'd be easier to compare; I chose 70 because that's about how many PAs an average pitcher will get if he makes 30 or so starts.
As a reference point, the average starting pitcher in 2009 had an OPS of .381 (.187 OBP, .194 SLG) and a wRC of -0.6 for every 70 PAs. (Relievers hit even worse, as you might expect.)
First off, the worst hitters. Before I get to the graphs, I'd just like to give a dishonorable mention to the Marlins' Anibal Sanchez, who missed the cut by 9 PAs but did manage to go 0 for 23 in his official at-bats. Bravo, Anibal. Now for the 5 Worst Hitters of 2009:
5) Jon Garland
T3) Ross Ohlendorf
T3) the ironically named Homer Bailey
2) Tommy Hanson
1) Brian Moehler
That's right, somebody managed to hit worse than Tommy. And it really wasn't all that close. Here they are, graphed by OPS:
Check out Moehler's .024 SLG! At least Tommy managed 2 singles--Moehler only had 1. Here are the 5 worst as graphed by wRC per 70 PAs:
In other words, if the 2010 version of Hanson hits like he did last year, he could easily cost the Braves 6 runs compared to the average SP. That's not a lot--about half a win--but it does hurt. The difference is even greater when compared to pitchers that can actually hit a little.
Here are the top 5 hitting pitchers of 2009:
T4) Dan Haren
T4) Josh Johnson
3) Carlos Zambrano
2) Mike Hampton
1) Micah Owings
(Reverse the order and that's a pretty sweet rotation, too, don't you think?) Here's how these 5 fared according to OPS:
Owings slugged .537, which is just good any way you cut it. Hampton's OBP was above league average as well. Here is how they stack up according to wRC per 70 PAs:
So, over 70 PAs, Owings would be worth about 18 runs more than Moehler. If you had to choose between them for your 5th starter, that would be a nice tiebreaker.
None of the top 5 guys really had a fluky year. Johnson and Haren were probably a bit over their heads, but the other 3 all hit worse than their career highs. They also hit 12 homers combined (4 from Zambrano), which is 2 more than David Wright hit in not quite twice as many PAs.
Now, just for fun, let's imagine that a team manages to assemble these 5 top hitters, and gave them each 70 PAs. Another team gathers up the 5 worst hitters, and a third team finds 5 perfectly average-hitting pitchers. If they all hit according to their 2009 rates, here's how the resulting pitching staffs would compare:
| PA | AB | H | XBH | BB | Sac Bunts | AVG | OBP | SLG | wRC | |
| Best | 350 | 308 | 74 | 30 | 14 | 22 | .241 | .271 | .424 | 34.5 |
| Average | 350 | 293 | 43 | 10 | 14 | 41 | .147 | .187 | .194 | -2.8 |
| Worst | 350 | 313 | 20 | 0 | 5 | 29 | .065 | .087 | .065 | -32.9 |
The slugging-pitcher dream staff would be worth around 37 runs--almost 4 wins--more than an average staff. The weak-hitting staff would cost its team around 30 runs, or 3 wins, when compared to the average staff.
All in all, pitcher hitting is largely insignificant. What's more, because of the small sample sizes, it is next to impossible to predict how well a pitcher will hit in a given year. But on the extremes, the very best hitting pitchers do add a predictable and not-insignifcant amount of value with their bats, and the very worst hitting pitchers will usually cost their team a few runs. When comparing two pitchers of similar pitching ability, hitting numbers can be used as a kind of tiebreaker. For instance, let's say the Astros are wondering whether to sign Hampton to a contract to compete with Moehler to be their 5th starter. They both pitched terribly in 2009, but Hampton's hitting was so much better that he is clearly the better choice.
As for Tommy Hanson, it's likely that he'll improve his numbers a bit as he gets more Major League at-bats. I won't mind too much if he sucks, though. At least his at-bats will add a good amount of humor potential.
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He's also not that popular on social networking sites like Facebook
so he’s not helping bring fans to Turner Field either. total scrub.
as long as he can get his bunts down, i think he’ll be just fine at the plate.
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 13, 2010 10:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh
Nevermind
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 13, 2010 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guilty as charged
Lock me up in jail for the rest of my life
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 13, 2010 11:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Micah Owings out-slugged Frenchy…hahahahahahahahah.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Feb 13, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions
Owings should have switched to a position, I think. He’s way better with the bat.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
Great stuff.
I can’t believe Micah Owings had a .537 slugging average in 2009. The .281 on base average leads me to believe he doesn’t draw many walks.
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Owings actually slugged .683 in 64 PAs in 2007. You’re right about his walk rate; his career rate is 4.3%. Which is still better than Zambrano. His career walk rate is 1.0%—6 walks in 603 PAs! Eat your heart out, Frenchy!
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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 14, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Where's Josh Johnson?
That guy killed us with the bat last year.
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 13, 2010 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No doubt.
I remember that one he nailed to deep center in Miami. I think he hit two against us this year, right? Maybe it’s a deep double I’m thinking of.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
Yep, and IIRC he hit both of his HRs off KK.
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 13, 2010 11:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
One was a Grand Slam, IIRC.
Wait, I am just a bandwagon fan who only feeds off of others. I probably have no clue what I am talking about.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Feb 14, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
oh hush
it was just a joke (and a bad one at that). don’t get all mad. i know you love the Braves, just like I do. im sure we’d be buddies in real life…unless a KJ/Prado debate came up lol
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Dang dude…you missed it. Earlier tonight, I was called a bandwagoner who only wants to please others….I am just being childish and pitching a fit about it in my way.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Feb 14, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
Haha it’s happened to me too…a while ago some new guy on the blog started going apeshit on me and thought I really had it out for him or something. And he called me a “bandwagoning pussy” because I wanted Prado over KJ at 2B. I thought it was hilarious
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 14, 2010 2:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you sure that wasnt justin?
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
That is a redundant statement.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Feb 14, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
That statement is a redundant statement.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
haha
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Feb 14, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Johnson tied for 4th. He hit 3 homers in all. He also had the 2nd best walk rate of any pitcher (behind Hampton).
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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 14, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I really enjoyed this post
and that made me feel like a major nerd, considering it broke down the hitting stats of crappy pitchers…then I realized that I couldn’t be any nerdier than the guy who wrote it and that made me feel better :)
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
Haha
Guilty as charged. I am the king of nerds.
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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 14, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
That title is often up for debate
Candidacy isn’t just limited to stats, but other stuff like making homemade baseball cards.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Wow
Hanson really wasn’t ready for the bigs. We need to send him back down to AAA until he gets his swing refined.
maybe Hampton should DH, then maybe he wont fracture an eyebrow…
Pujols is NOT God.... sure he'll hit .350, hit 50 bombs, and drive in a 125....but then again...so will Heyward..
by lemke2blauser2bream on Feb 14, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions
oh please
that fragile f*ck gets hurt brushing his teeth in the morning
"Jason Heyward is more than the top prospect in baseball. He's the player who could transform the Braves from a modest threat into a World Series contender."
by Scott Coleman on Feb 14, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Can you factor in...
runs below (or above) average at the plate with runs above (or below average) on the mound? I think it’d be interesting to see which pitcher is the best when you combine what they are actually there for with this analysis,
Still, great stuff.
Good idea...
Couldn’t really fit that into this post, but it’d be interesting to try that and see what comes out. I wonder if Haren or Johnson, two guys who are already near the top based on their pitching, would pass guys like Lincecum and Wainwright. Although, iirc, Wainwright is a decent hitter as well.
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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 15, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
And with Hanson, the 6 runs below average he cost last year...
he more than made up for on the mound.
And I’m pretty sure Wainwright is solid with the stick (for a P) as well.
I thought of his #s at Auburn...
he was solid as a hitter and lights out off the mound. He and Todd Helton had some amazing numbers both as Ps and hitting.
I was surprised, because, at least to my eyes, he’s been a pretty crappy hitter with the Braves, even for a pitcher. Maybe somebody can get some numbers to show me otherwise. I voted for Lowe, but again, that’s just based off something old, the way I saw him working on his hitting in ST.
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Well in his defense...
there was a long time between Auburn and Atlanta where he probably never picked up a bat.
I know, and I think that’s why he sucks, which is funny because he still has the rep as a hitter.
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His career hitting numbers are pretty crappy, which backs up that theory. Even with his suckage, he still might be best next year. I have a funny feeling that he worked on his hitting a lot while rehabbing. Kind of like how Smoltz used to use rehab time to improve his golf game.
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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 16, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
"Tommy Hanson: worst hitter of 2009"
…and in similar news, Albert Pujols was the worst pitcher of 2009.
Ha.
But I’m pretty sure Albert would’ve been better than, say, Jeff Suppan, if he put his mind to it. He is the closest thing to imaginary internet Matt Wieters that we have right now (until J-Hey gets to the bigs).
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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 16, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think what’s going on here is that tommy is focusing on his focus…which is on the mound..taking all pressure off himself at the plate and focusing on his job…he does not need the distraction of batting. He is a young guy and needs to concentrate on what matters and not on what doesn’t…I’m saying he is in the zone when he pitches and is right at this point to not risk getting out of it by focusing on hitting even when he’s in the box
That being said he will grow into the ability to focus on hitting when hitting then get back in the pitching zone…I expect him to stretch into this when getting up to bat in situations he can change the game w his bat…like some pitchers who are so set on winning on the mound it translates into rbis
Actually...
I’d call him the best pitching hitter of all time. But whatever. :)
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by FineHamAbounds on Feb 22, 2010 2:59 AM EST up reply actions

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