How do the Braves afford Glavine, but not Damon?
Don't get me wrong on this. I'm glad Glavine is back in the fold and hope they do the same for Chipper when he retires, but how much are they paying Glavine for what amounts to a front office training position. Bet its at lease 7 figures. Why do the Braves have money to create front office positions, but can't put up the bucks to pick up a power hitter, or at least make a decent offer for Damon?
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This is either a very well thought out joke or… let’s say its very sad…
by bbxxj on Feb 13, 2010 6:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You know, we really should stop paying management. Sorry, Schuerholz, we need Damon.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Feb 13, 2010 6:58 PM EST reply actions
haha…. :)
Pujols is NOT God.... sure he'll hit .350, hit 50 bombs, and drive in a 125....but then again...so will Heyward..
by lemke2blauser2bream on Feb 13, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
by the way i just noticed the KY ads are gone….
they sure made it hard to go on TChop at work….
Pujols is NOT God.... sure he'll hit .350, hit 50 bombs, and drive in a 125....but then again...so will Heyward..
by lemke2blauser2bream on Feb 13, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions
7 figures
If they are paying Glavine 7 figures, I’m going to go outside, flap my arms and fly away.
No way it's 7 figures.
Probably in the low 6-figure range. They’re throwing him a bone, not asking him to run the team.
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by FineHamAbounds on Feb 13, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions
this
it’s probably more of a PR move anyways. ya know…dont wanna Smoltzy and Glavine both mad at us
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by Scott Coleman on Feb 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I almost want to use my awesome powers to delete this…
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by cbwilk on Feb 13, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
what power hitter can we get for the 'awesome' salary we are giving glavine?
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How much are we paying Glavine?
The point is that the Braves have money to spend. They are choosing not to spend it on players in the field. I’m not saying we don’t want Glavine. We do. Can’t imagine Tommy working for a “bone.” Has the front office released Glavine’s salary? We also want some power and speed to score some runs. Not saying Damon’s the answer (though I’d like to see him as a Brave). But the Braves did make him an offer, so they must see something there. Glavine won’t help us on the field. Hope I’m wrong, but this team doesn’t have enough punch to give the Phillies a run for the division.
by Beavercreekbravesfan on Feb 14, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions
This whole line of reasoning, that the Braves are paying a front office guy so much that they can’t afford free agents, is ridiculous. If they can’t afford a free agent it’s because they don’t have the money in the section of their budget allotted toward players, not because of anything having to do with how much people in the front office are paid. I hope you’re not really worried about this, because that would just be silly.
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You do realize that there is a difference between player payroll and non-player payroll, right?
I mean, shoot, you might as well be complaining that they employ too many ushers and could better use that money to bring in Free Agents.
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by justincredubil02 on Feb 14, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
the ones up on the 300 level are kind of pointless for us during the regular season…..
by BravesRaleigh on Feb 15, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry, but no matter what level of sports you’re at, ushers in general are pointless. I get they they mattered 80 years ago when stadiums were poorly labeled, but at this point if you’re too dumb to find your seat you probably wouldn’t have tickets because you’d be too dumb to understand how money works.
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But they must enforce seating assignments...
I went to a game vs. the Red Sox either last year or the year before, and the elderly lady working the row of single seats next to the bullpen was VERY adament that no one be there unless they had that ticket. And I mean well before the game when no one was there for the seat and was just watching Wakefield warm up. She was hard core.
by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 15, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Which is why I don’t have a desire to go to many Major League games. I can’t go watch a guy warm up in the bullpen? Really? Pretty sure I paid a decent amount for this ticket and I can’t even do something as simple as go over to the bullpen and watch a guy warmup? Stupid. They’re way too uptight at ballparks.
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You can, from the crowded area where no seats are...
but if you are in the area she’s assigned, you best have your ticket.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 15, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha +1000
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by alligatorimpersonator on Feb 15, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
At the Braves bullpen, as long as you’re not hanging your beer or your camera over the railing, you can stand there as long as you like – on the two sides that aren’t bordered by seats, that is. Even if you do slip up once or twice – or more, they just ask you to pull your stuff back behind the rail. My biggest hassle at the bullpen is that I always seem to be standing next to the drunk who wants to scream stupid things at the pitchers warming up or at Eddie.
I think her name is Rose, and yes, she is no sweet old lady! lol, what a trip. Her and the Phillipino lady in 404 (?) are the most militant I’ve seen at the Ted. But at least she’s only on that one side of the visitors bullpen. Everyone else is pretty nice. You gotta love Mr. Herman (the diminutive elderly man with the Mr. T necklaces in 122) – can’t wait to hear him yell, “Wellllcome to Tuurnuur Feeyald” in a few weeks.
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Blogging is great. You get to banter useless information about actions you have no control over whatsoever. Yes, I know that front office payroll is different than player payroll, or equipment expense, like the (relatively) new scoreboard. These are all accounting classifications. They are all expenses. Revenue comes from one source…the fans…either directly through ticket and concession sales, or indirectly through radio, TV and MLB payments. How the Braves use that money is decided by the bean counters. Organizations can get top heavy. What was the team goal for the off season? Get a right handed power hitter. Traded Vasquez for right handed power hitter Melky Cabrera? Don’t think so. Troy Glaus may be the deal of the century if he returns to form. But we didn’t even fain an attempt at a big name. Maybe I’m just longing for the days of deep pockets Ted Turner. We don’t have the dollars to compete with the Yankees, but it seems there should be some creative accounting that would flow more cash to the playing field and less to the front office. Since I don’t know, and none of us do, how much Glavine or anyone else in the front office is being paid, this is probably all meaningless dribble in the end. The team we’ve got now, is the team we’ve got for the rest of the season. Are they good enough to bring some excitement back to Atlanta and make a run at the post season. I hope so. The Braves leadership has brought some great baseball to the city over most of the past 2 decades. The last 3 years haven’t lived up to that tradition. Hope October proves me wrong. Go Braves!
by Beavercreekbravesfan on Feb 15, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions
But we didn’t even fain an attempt at a big name.
If you expected the Braves to go out and sign one of the top free agents then you are not very educated about your team. First, why in the hell would any team with any sense, or desire to compete, go out and pay $60 million over 4 years to Jason Bay much less the $120 million over 7 years to Matt Holliday. Do you honestly believe the Cardinals will be a competitive team in 2 to 3 years from now after paying Holliday and Pujols what comes close to, if not more than, 50% of their total payroll??? It’s not fucking rocket science here, it’s simple economics.
Second, have the Braves EVER gone out and spent that kind of money? NOPE! So how in the hell did you come to “expect” that kind of move this off-season?
Why do the Braves have money to create front office positions, but can’t put up the bucks to pick up a power hitter, or at least make a decent offer for Damon?
What the hell is Troy Glaus? Do you not realize, given the salary we are paying him, that he has a realistic shot at providing the most surplus value to a team out of anyone in MLB this year? Granted there are concerns about his health, and rightly so, but to completely eliminate him from the equation is just silly.
Yes, I know that front office payroll is different than player payroll, or equipment expense, like the (relatively) new scoreboard.
So you just chose to ignore this fact and post something you “already knew” to be inaccurate?
You aren’t the czar of typographic emphasis
I sort of, kind of, maybe see your point...
I am a manager for a small plant so I see the point that expending money anywhere does take away from your total revenue which prevent you from doing other things you might want to do but I also know that with in budgets there is alocations for diferent aspects that DO need the money for things to run properly.
I don’t run the Braves and I am sure things are very different from my operation but some things are universal and the fact that Glavine was hired most likely does not affect anything to what the payroll will be in 2010.
Also as other people pointed out the salary for Glavine is not going to be 7 figures I would assume and probably not even close so your points are very week.
Last but now least, in this blog most people don’t see Damon as an improvement. His numbers were inflated from playing with the Yankees (park and good lineup) and if you add up the poor defense then we have better players right than JD.
Thanks
Thanks for your comments. I believed, maybe wrongly, that Glavine would get Big Bucks. If that’s not the case and he’s only(?) getting 6 figures, then its a good investment in the future. Like I said on the initial post, I hope the powers that be find a way to keep Chipper when the time comes. Yeah, I do like Damon, not as a power hitter, but for his presence and hustle, and think he would help the team. Not sure if Alanta is really on the top of his list, or if that’s just posturing. Anyway…emphasis…I hope I’m wrong….but, I still think we’re one big bat short of the post season. Can’t wait for spring training to see what pans out.
by Beavercreekbravesfan on Feb 15, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Chill out scstrato
Hey, this is just a blog. Since neither of us get any money from the Braves, there’s no sense in getting worked up about it. To clear the record, I did say the Glaus could very well be the deal of century (and hope he will be). The “front office” versus “player payroll” is different only in the accounting sense. Leadership sets the budget and can chose to move revenue around to where its needed most. Without having any inside knowledge of that budget, I’d sort of like to think that player payroll would be a higher priority since the players are the ones who bring in the revenue dollars from the fans. You are absolutely right about Bay and Holliday, they were asking too much. Sorry my post got you worked up, but I don’t recall cussing anyone out and would expect that courtesy from others. Anyway, let’s keep it civil and keep pushing for the team. I’m sure JS and FW are listening to us.
by Beavercreekbravesfan on Feb 15, 2010 4:06 PM EST reply actions
What did he say that was uncivil? Seems to me that he just pointed out inaccuracies and inconsistencies in your stance.
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he did say ‘hell’ multiple times…
Pujols is NOT God.... sure he'll hit .350, hit 50 bombs, and drive in a 125....but then again...so will Heyward..
by lemke2blauser2bream on Feb 15, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
“The team we’ve got now, is the team we’ve got for the rest of the season. Are they good enough to bring some excitement back to Atlanta and make a run at the post season. I hope so.” Beavercreekbravesfan
Not necessarily true. As of this date I believe the Braves have a few million stashed back which can be used @ Jun/July trade deadline. As far as player payroll goes I’m pleased w/how FW has handled things.
They shouldn’t stash money like that. Instead, they should go out and sign big name free agents that we have no need for.
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by justincredubil02 on Feb 15, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
whats a trade deadline? :p
Pujols is NOT God.... sure he'll hit .350, hit 50 bombs, and drive in a 125....but then again...so will Heyward..
by lemke2blauser2bream on Feb 15, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions

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