Braves Decline Arbitration On Five Players
by gondeee on Nov 23, 2010 1:59 PM EST
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The Atlanta Braves announced today that they will decline to offer salary arbitration to their five free agents before tonight's midnight deadline. The five players include outfielder Rick Ankiel, right-handed pitcher Kyle Farnsworth, infielder Troy Glaus, infielder/outfielder Eric Hinske and first baseman Derrek Lee.
No real surprises here. Apparently we can still negotiate with these free agents if we wish, as the Braves have a contract offer on the table to Hinske. I'm pretty sure we determined in the comments that the deadline for arbitration eligible players who were not free agents is in early December, just before the Winter Meetings.
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We didnt offer Hinske arbitration, but we still offered him a contract. There’s still a chance we sign him.
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by Scott Coleman on Nov 23, 2010 2:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I thought
Today’s deadline was just for players who are free-agent eligible. I thought guys like Moylan and Diaz who are still under team control had a deadline later in December
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
i think so too
As much as I hate to say it, I really don’t see them re-signing Diaz
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Nov 23, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how else to say this, the franchise is not going to turn any corners by keeping around one-dimensional players like Matty Diaz when there are a sufficient number of prospects to trade for a solid 7th or 8th position player. Matty’s a great pinch hitter against lefties…that’s it.
by TBuzz on Nov 23, 2010 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I understand
I’m just such a big fan is all… I know the team has better options at this point… I’ll cheer for him wherever he goes, unless it’s Philly
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Nov 23, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
even if he goes to Philly, I’ll root for him anyway. Like he can hit a double to the gap, but Heyward throws out the runner at the plate anyway.
Our rotation is righty heavy, he won’t be doing much hitting against us in that scenario.
by king of games on Nov 23, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not only is Diaz the man... but
Diaz splits against pitchers he has faced before are just as dramatic as his splits against lefties, and that includes against several top flight rhpitchers. Matt Diaz is simply a natural hitter, and when he is on a tear, he excells at hitting righties..
This is bullshit about matt diaz being a one dimentional player.
I disagree...
Wow, talk about a man crush!
Here’s the problem though. When you add up the times Diaz was on a tear and the times he wasn’t, what you end up with is .250/.302/.438 and a K rate at 20%
For someone who’s not a speed threat, plays mediocre defense, and has a .200 higher OPS versus lefties than righties…I will say it once again. ONE-DIMENSIONAL. I’m all for keeping him on as a bench player, but Joe Mather gives you roughly the same production for WAY less money.
Diaz is OK in LF, that’s about it, not great, not horrible. He’s pure unadulterated hell vs lefties. Mather has no production that I can find. If it came down to those two, I’d send Diaz to the plate every time. In the field, Mather is probably the better choice, he’s way more versatile. I want Diaz on the team unless a better option than Mather is available.
Free Matt Young!
Mather had a decent stint in 2009 with the Cards.
So let me get this straight. You’ll take Diaz at $2.5M to only hit lefties with no realistic shot to start at LF (even if Prado needs to play 3B)…or Mather at $400K who can fill in at 4 positions? If Mather can get to .300 OBP like Diaz did it’s a better deal…
by TBuzz on Nov 24, 2010 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes I would
Because I don’t take much stock in Diaz 2010 numbers after nearly having to have his thumb amputated. Without looking, I’d say Diaz career BA is as high as Mather’s OB%. And Diaz can hit RHP, certainly not as well as vs LHP, but well enough.
Free Matt Young!
MattE Diaz Is NOT For SALE!!!!!
Matt Diaz is by far my favorite baseball player, period. I love the way he plays the game, hustles, hits ugly pitches, steals bases, and never complains about anything!!! i love his stance!!!!!!! SOUTHERN COMFORT ALL THE WAY!!!! MattE epitomizes the word "overachiever". I say we make Diaz a lifetime Brave. He is the ultimate hitting machine!! Should he have been giving more chance to play this year after he came back from surgery instead of :MilkDud: he would have showed all yall non believers…… If they dont sign MattE they wont get my money this year cause i wont go unless Matt is there………And he is such a wonderful spokesman for the team…
That’s my 2cents… Karen from South Carolina
Kinda extreme to say you wont support the team if a bench player leaves...
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will gladly trade your season ticket defection for the extra $2M of roster space he can save by replacing a one-dimensional player like Matt Diaz who put up a pretty mediocre showing during an arbitration-eligible season…for someone who can hit higher than .250 and steal a few bases
by TBuzz on Nov 28, 2010 7:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
To Frank
Frank Wren shouldn’t have spent all that money on " McOUT" and Matte can surely out do that little worthless piece of squirt
Actually, he didn't.
The Pirates signed that deal, not the Braves.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Nov 29, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Matt simply wasn’t that good. He had a great little run off the bench, but that’s about it. Sorry, but it’s true.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Nov 29, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Rough 12 months for the man...
from should be our everyday leadoff hitter to “a great little run off the bench, but that’s about it”.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 29, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Off the top of my head I thought it was Dec 2 for the nontender deadline.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Nov 23, 2010 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hinske can still start at 1B
Hinske would still have a pretty realistic shot at the starting 1B job next year if Freddie Freeman isn’t ready right?
by TBuzz on Nov 23, 2010 2:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm sure Freeman is ready
But Hinske fits this team’s needs so well, a LH bench bat with pop who can play multiple positions and has good team chemistry… Just give the dude a two year deal and call it a day, he loves the team anyway
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Nov 23, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
This.
Though it may be more of “we can play him at multiple positions” than “he can play multiple positions.” Either way. If he takes two years and under $4 million, do it.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Nov 23, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I obviously don’t speak for FW, but that amount would well worth keeping his playoff streak alive!
by TBuzz on Nov 23, 2010 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I updated the story to reflect the other arb deadline. I was rushed earlier, but now that I think about it, that’s right. And I believe we can still negotiate with these players, though I’m not certain. Can someone clarify.
Definitely can still negotiate...
Although exclusive negotiations are well past.
But yeah, can definitely still negotiate, or else the Yankees just lost negotiating rights with Jeter and Rivera…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
If we don’t resign Hinske I’ll cry.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Nov 23, 2010 2:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
His new BFF
David Ross needs to get on the phone and make a sales pitch to bring him back to ATL
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Nov 23, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
“David, they are paying you and signed you to a multi-year deal. I need to get paid too!”
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Nov 24, 2010 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
Hinske needs to return
Brewers have offered him a contract too, but with Uggla in the fold and the great pitching we have why in the world would he want to go and play for the terrible Brew Crew; I mean they have zero pitching and they are worried about signing Hinske ? Brewers organization needs to wake and develop or sign pitching before they worry about their bench. HINSKE PLEASE RETURN PLEASE !!!
On the others in the above posting no big surprises, Farnsworth (would have been nice to retain but not with his $5 mil + opt, Ankiel, Lee no thank you. Glaus needs to go to the AL and become a DH his body just cannot allow him any longer to play in the field which is a shame he was really well on his way to a great comeback season until his knee(s) gave out on him along with other various ailments due to years of strain. Still Glaus, Lee, Ankiel, Farnsworth, and of course Hinske should be cheered for all they did for helping the 2010 ATL Braves Ball Club; Good show boys good show. However the only guy on this current list I want back badly is Hinske can we trade KK already and have someone eat $3mil of his contract which frees up that cash to give Eric a two year deal. Hey Mr. Wren sign Hinske 2yr, either C. Guzman or A. Everett (SS) to one year deal, and lastly a bullpen arm and we are done with signings for the 2011 club. OF course signing #26 Uggla long term needs to get done as well Asap.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Nov 23, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions
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