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Braves Hire Larry Parrish As New Hitting Coach

The Braves are going to announce Larry Parrish as the team's new hitting coach later today. Parrish is currently the manager of the Detroit Tigers' triple-A team. 

 

During his playing days, Parrish played for the Montreal Expos and Texas Rangers. He slugged 256 home runs but had just a .318 on base percentage. Hopefully, this means he can help some hitters out with their power stroke. 

 

Earlier this month, Terry Pendleton was moved to first base coach, creating a vacancy in the hitting coach position. After interviewing a few candidates, it appears that the Braves felt most comfortable with Parrish.

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Hmm

Interesting. Any information/opinions on this matter?

by dank7 on Oct 29, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing to really base it off, but DKnobler at CBS Sports said: “Great hire by Braves. Larry Parrish is outstanding at working with hitters. Will make a good hitting coach”

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record...

His 162 game average as a player: .263/22/85. As Ben indicated in the post, his career OBP was .318 (Career high in walks: 52). But, we’re not hiring him to play LF, I’m just indicating he had a lengthy enough and moderately successful enough career to reference as well as the seemingly very positive reviews early on to make this a positive hire. Anyone know if he and Fredi have worked together in the past?

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 29, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they managed against each other from what I read about him, but now I can’t remember where I read this…

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Oct 29, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol Jason is so tall compared to everyone else.

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Oct 29, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

well, when you are 6'5"

and the guy next to you is 5’11".

it´s a great difference

by joshant on Oct 29, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate McLouth is just really far behind him.

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." ~George Carlin

by FineHamAbounds on Nov 1, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I posted a poll

Here http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/10/29/1782130/report-atlanta-braves-hire-larry-parrish-as-hitting-coach. I actually got my post up before Ben did thus I wouldn’t have bothered. But vote if you have a say, I’m interested to hearing the reaction of others.

by WNWDOTCOM on Oct 29, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Kinda wish we got Bonds.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t imagine that working out well, even though his skills are incredible.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio

by BenDuronio on Oct 29, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bonds?

as in Barry?

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Oct 29, 2010 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who is Barry?

the only Bonds i know is James.

I don´t know if James is a good hitting coach

by joshant on Oct 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

James Bond is always hitting on some babe

while he’s saving the planet. He’d be perfect.

A baseball diamond is, most simply, the intersecting of four 90-foot baselines, and, most powerfully, the intersecting of seemingly random lives.

by adc62 on Oct 30, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steroids or not the guy could flat out hit AND get on base. Plus I’d love to watch every time Heyward came to the plate waving that tiny little bat.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was also the 2nd biggest douchebag in the history of baseball...

So he has that going for him too.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 29, 2010 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You rank him behind Victorino too?

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Haha

"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann

by HansonManCrush on Oct 29, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I too hate Victorino

because of that stupid helmet…. And he’s a douche, too!? Tell me more!

by MartinMcFly on Oct 29, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I had to fight all my life to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch.”

“When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch.”

“That god damned Dutchman [Honus Wagner] is the only man in the game I can’t scare.”

“I think the Negro has the right to compete in sports in every section of the country as long as his deportment is genteel and unchallengeable.”

by fandave on Oct 29, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was a complete wild man. study up on the subject if you’re interested.

by fandave on Oct 29, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ever read the Al Stump biography?

The one he published in the early 90’s with all the horror stories from writing the glazed-over 1960 one with Cobb. It is one of the best baseball reads I have ever come across.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 29, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I haven’t, but there is no more notoriously ill-tempered, hateful, bitter, hard ass in the history of sports.

by fandave on Oct 29, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that book basically reinforced that notion

Fascinating baseball personality to say the least. Love or hate the fellow it’s a phenomenal read.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 29, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That book

And Stump himself, are major, major sources of controversy these days. There is compelling evidence that Stump made a considerable part of what he wrote up out of the whole cloth.

by Sam Jethroe on Oct 29, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the book when I read it, but the whole thing was BS

In reality Stump spent a few days on and off with Cobb over 11 months (probably 2-3 weeks total) ending 3 months before his death. The people who actually spent time with him the last 3 months of his life (mainly doctors and nurses), spoke very highly of him as a kind man, not the raving, lunatic, drunk that Stump portrays. Stump also fraudulently sold all sorts of Ty Cobb “memorabilia” that he bought at flea markets, along with Cobb “autographed” baseballs he signed himself. He made up the story of Cobb’s father’s head being blown off by a shotgun (he was actually shot with a pistol), that baseball players refused to attend his funeral (his family asked that it be kept private, but hundreds of players sent their condolences), and that Cobb killed a man.

For more information check out the amazing article written by William Cobb (no relation) from this year’s annual SABR publication here.

by nixa37 on Oct 29, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best quote about Cobb I've ever heard

First of all, I must apologize as I am working from memory here so this story is probably not quite right in a few places, but it’s still worth repeating. I searched on Google and couldn’t find the source for this and I don’t remember what it was. But anyway…

Sometime around the mid 1950s a sportswriter was talking with some position player after a game. The conversation went something like this.
Writer: So what do you think Ty Cobb would hit if he played today?
Player: I don’t know. Probably around .298 I guess.
Writer: Really? I can’t believe it! You think Ty Cobb would only hit about .298 if he played today?
Player: Well yeah, but he’s about 68 years old!

by Zontar on Oct 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a variation of that

In the Tommy Lee Jones movie from 1994, I have no idea whether it’s true or not. Either way, one of my favorite quotes.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Nov 7, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Read about Cobb's first few seasons with the Tigers

That first quote will start to make a whole lot more sense. He basically took the job of a well-liked veteran as a 19 year-old and the guy made sure everyone hazed the shit out of him. By the age of 20 he was the star of the team, and not surprisingly most of the other players were jealous.

by nixa37 on Oct 29, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curious as to who you rank #1 if Bonds is #2...

Clemens?

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 29, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn’t want him talking to heyward…bonds rubbing off on heyward would not be a good thing in my mind…

by forgotten_glory on Oct 29, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. The team’s injectible skills really went downhill after the ASB. Barry Bonds would up the rage quotient considerably.

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Oct 29, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine if Heyward were on steroids. He would never get a hit as the baseballs would disintegrate on contact.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since I’m pretty sure all those balls would be ruled “foul,” he could just keep doing that until all the opposing team’s pitchers were too tired to continue, and the Braves would win every game by forfeit.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Oct 29, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine all the baseball-dust around the plate

Maybe Bill Hohn will get the Black Lung.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 29, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ex-managers

Gotta give Fredi some credit. Not too many guys in his shoes would include not one but two former MLB managers on his staff.

Assuming they all get along, this will be a very experienced managerial staff.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Oct 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.

by BravePhin on Oct 31, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knowledge of the fundamentals and execution of fundamentals are two different things.

I’m not too worried about his career batting average or OBP. Pick any sport, there are always great coaches who were underwhelming as players. Welcome to the club, Parrish!

by Creek Johnson on Oct 29, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW.

WTF is doing Mclouth, standing next to Heyward.

He didn´t learn the lesson?

by joshant on Oct 29, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Not going to affect the team's offensive production in any way.

It just doesn’t work like that. But since it doesn’t matter, why not?

by SS451 on Oct 29, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Hitting coaches make no difference on a team?

Riiiiiight…..

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 29, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

some people just don't get it

hitting coaches can make a WORLD of difference.

did you ever perform better in a class with a great teacher? if so, then you know that teaching matters. this guy knows how to teach hitting.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 29, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Just like how Daniel Son needed Mr. Miagi or there is no chance he’s as good as he was!

by -Primetime21- on Oct 29, 2010 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

To be fair, these aren’t children playing at the Majors. They’re professionals who had to prove they could play at the highest level. They know how to hit already.

Now, in the Minors, I’d say all of the coaches play an even bigger role in the player’s development and therefore have a greater effect on future performance when or if the player reaches the Majors. You could take it back further and say even High School or College coaches or even parents (ie: Chipper and McCann) greatly influence a player’s hitting ability.

That being said, I’d much rather have a good/great hitting coach because it does matter. When teams can miss out on making the playoffs by 1 or 2 games, I want every possible advantage and that includes your coaching staff.

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Oct 29, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the hitting coach plays a different but not negligible role in the majors

they arent teaching poeple how to hit, but they are certainly who the players talk to about their swing when things are getting tough or whatever. He figures out how his players are being pitched and comes up with the practices to help them adjust to that. They dont teach fundamentals they are there to help the guy make adjustments nad that is very important

by willlinn on Oct 29, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easily one of the most ignorant things ever posted on this blog.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Oct 30, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say it's more.

So I must be adorable.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Oct 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Orioles don't agree.

They were 34-23 with Buck Showalter as manager after going 32-73 before he got there.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Nov 1, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

But wait, you’re using logic. That’s no fair.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Nov 2, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously?

with a name like “SS”, i can see where you’re slightly confused with things…

but you’re telling us that the manager and coaches have NO bearing at all on the performance on-the-field?

now THAT’S cutely ridiculous.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 30, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically none.

Obviously, they have a huge potential for impact. If a manager batted his pitchers leadoff, he might cost his team 3 or 4 extra wins a year. But given that every manager does almost literally everything alike, and given that the hitting coaches are working with fully-formed major league players, the potential is never realized, and the quality of players is basically all that matters.

by SS451 on Oct 30, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fully-formed Major Leaguers. That’s just silly. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Oct 30, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the #$%?

is a fully formed major leaguer?

you’re saying that once a player gets the show that they’re done improving or learning? you’re saying that they are finished products and by no means can be taught by good coaches and managers to IMPROVE?

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 31, 2010 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right. Managers and coaches have absolutely no effect on the game. That’s just dumb.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Oct 30, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh boy.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 30, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Frank Wren guy and his selections no one sees coming

Since he has been here Frank has only made ONE call that people could predict and that was Fredi. Who predicted:

Kawakami
Vazquez
McLouth
Troy Glaus
Wagner
Saito
Alex Gonzalez
Derrick Lee
Farnsworth and Ankiel
Now this guy!

At this rate we will have JD Drew or some other person no one is thinking of in LF next year.

BTW I’m not complaining just pointing out how FW is pretty unpredictable.

by drumzalicious on Oct 29, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You know...

Drew wouldn’t be a bad idea for LF. I wouldn’t mind if Wren jumped on that, provided we don’t pay his whole salary. Just sayin’.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Oct 29, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Werth/Crawford goes to Beantown??

Perhaps pry him away for another one-year useful part, with them picking up salary…Infante??

He could fill Bill Hall’s role in their lineup at a cheaper rate, they could afford to get rid of Drew and pay some of his salary because of their OF depth and cheap Hall replacement option. They’re stocked at OF and could pursue Werth or Crawford.

We sacrifice our super-utility guy but get a legit OF bat in the process??

I know he’s 35 and coming off a substandard year for his career, but it’s a subsidized 1-year contract that helps the team in the biggest area of need. The only real problem is that he’s left handed, but he’s still a bat. Pretty respectable OPS against LHP. Find a righty CFer and it’s 4/3/1, L/R/S-hitting starting lineup. That’s perfectly fine, as long as Chipper’s there to anchor the middle of the order.

Complete balderdash?? I dunno, maybe this makes no sense at all. But I see the potential for mutual benefit here…

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 29, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they were FA today...

They’d both be Type B. So that’s an even switch in that regard when you account for both being FA next season.

Some might be asking about what we do for the following year, and that’s a good question. An even better question is whether there’s anyone out there this season that would warrant multi-year consideration that isn’t going to be too expensive. If there’s not, do we have any better options??

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 29, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Werth/Crawford go to Beantown

we BETTER be going after Ellsbury to play CF.

then we can sign a RH platoon partner for Nate in LF (Pat the Bat?)

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 30, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he would cost more than he is worth

by drumzalicious on Oct 30, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Crawford/Werth goes to Boston...

…it will be Cameron who is available on the cheap.

by cavebird on Oct 31, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I'd hope we get in on that...

one more OF might be nice, but I’d take…
Prado
Heyward
Chipper
McCann
Cameron
Freeman
Gonzalez
McLouth

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 31, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind it either. Of course we still would be out of a RH bat but at the same time I think it would be ok.

Prado
Drew
Chip
Heyward
McCann
Gonzo
McLouth
Freeman

not that bad

by drumzalicious on Oct 30, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wren’s pretty out of the box, I definitely agree.
Your list might also the recent pickups out of the indy leagues.
However, don’t you think Fredi gets the final, deciding vote on his coaching staff?

by fandave on Oct 29, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t call it, but I was definitely stumping for the team to acquire McLouth…
course in hindsight

I remember talking with my buddies about the Troy Glaus acquisition when it first happened…it was like, “I can’t believe the Braves actually got Troy Glaus. Troy fuckin’ Glaus! The Braves got former WS MVP Troy Glaus. Wtf”

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Oct 29, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was stoked to

for McLouth and Glaus. If his knees had held up he would have clearly been right at the 30HR/100RBI mark

by drumzalicious on Oct 30, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of makes me excited to see what he does in the off season. Could be anything.

"Funny scene in clubhouse, reporters surrounding Prado, pointing recorders toward him. Moylan sneaks into group quietly, points Klondike bar." - DOB

by McCann and McWill on Oct 29, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that

Means he’s not afraid to try interesting things to fill spots and be competitive. I also like never being able to guess his moves. It has to help in the industry for everyone to know that you never can be quite sure what that crazy Wren will do.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Oct 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

larry says, "thanks, frank"

[pats wren on the butt]

lol. seriously, though, that is one creepy face.

"Now, I'm gonna go get off my horse by getting onto a smaller horse, and then onto a large dog, until I'm near enough to the ground to roll off."

by Bravely going forward on Oct 29, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, Yes it is.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pictures like make me wish we were more like AA in terms of MS paint.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Oct 30, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The offense next year will improve

by exactly the amount that the quality of the players improves, give or take the amount that the individual players’ performances fluctuate.

In other words, TP or LP, it almost certainly doesn’t make much difference. 95% of MLB hitting coaches are basically the same. They do the best they can with the available players. Barring any huge personality conflicts or idiosyncratic instruction (which is very rare in MLB), it’s mostly a wash when teams change HCs.

As long as Parrish is a hard worker, a good communicator, and gets along well with the important players, he’ll be a perfectly decent hire. I wouldn’t get my hopes up that this guy will single-handedly turn around the offense, though.

"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson

by Jacob Peterson on Oct 29, 2010 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

This is exactly how I feel.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Oct 30, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

UGHH

dumb MLB is gonna debut Justin Bieber’s new music video during game 3….Yuck

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Oct 29, 2010 8:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

"Funny scene in clubhouse, reporters surrounding Prado, pointing recorders toward him. Moylan sneaks into group quietly, points Klondike bar." - DOB

by McCann and McWill on Oct 29, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHYYYYYYYYYYY?????????!!!!!!!!!!!

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Oct 30, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

From what I have been told a hitting coach is there more for support and comfort also gives the players someone to vent their problems to and sometimes that’s more important than teaching hitting to grown men who have been playing since they were four years old and are not going to change how they do things

by Rob y on Oct 29, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Imagine what...

…Rudy Jaramillo could do with the great young hitters on the Braves. Wren should have pushed for him before this season.

you know my steeze!

by ledge2 on Oct 29, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

and who played on the Cubs this year?

outside of Lee and Castro and Soriano?

Soto had a great bounceback year and that’s Rudy.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 30, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait Rudy gets all the credit for Soto getting back to where he was in 2008?

And what about Lee, Ramirez, Byrd??? Didn’t see him helping them at all.

by nixa37 on Oct 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

Lee was battling nagging injuries all year. Ramirez had hand injuries and then went nuts when he was healthy in the 2nd half. Byrd had a very good season.

you’re saying that Rudy had nothing to do with any of those?

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 30, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying he's become overrated

I don’t think he’s so much better than everyone else that he deserves the 3 year, $2.4 million he got. He’s good, but he’s not some hitting god. He has some guys do better than usual and some guys that do worse. I certainly don’t think we missed out by not offering him more than the Cubs.

by nixa37 on Oct 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hitting in the Major Leagues require ongoing adjustments. Why do you think so many players go through extended slumps and hot streaks throughout the course of a season. A good hitting coach that explains what adjustments to make and how to make them can make all the difference in the world.

by dlkinser86 on Oct 30, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said hitting coaches don't make any difference

I just don’t think Rudy Jaramillo is worth something like 20 times more guaranteed than other hitting coaches. Sure, he’s good, but he’s not that good. If he was the Cubs wouldn’t have finished below the NL average in runs scored per game.

by nixa37 on Oct 30, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

and he did work with Frenchy…

…to no avail.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 31, 2010 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love it. Larry Parrish is one of the nicest and most professional coaches I’ve met. I always looked forward to Toledo coming into town. He was fun to talk baseball with and was always very candid when talking about players. I like this a lot.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Oct 30, 2010 2:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty average hitter in his day. I guess that means he will encourage the hitters to be average.

by temjin9876 on Oct 30, 2010 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Because only great hitters make good hitting coaches.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Oct 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those who can't do, teach.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Oct 30, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice. I wasn’t serious. It was a play off of the above. Forgive me at an obviously failed attempt at sarcasm.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Oct 30, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have so much Drive By Stupidity

Around here that it sort of spoils the field for sarcasm. Irony only works when it doesn’t mimic things goofy people say in seriousness.

by Sam Jethroe on Oct 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

seems to me like i called you out on it and you’re back tracking. if you were TRYING to be sarcasm, you would have expressed it in the post. eye rolls work…including (sarcasm) into the post works.

however, you just said something stupid. i called you out. you back tracked. now let’s move on.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 31, 2010 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Listen

I’m not trying to get into some ridiculous argument over the details of this thing. I know what I meant, you believe you know what I meant. That my friend is fine, I’m not offended or upset in you disagreeing. I simply don’t like the way you did it, that’s all. There are many on here that disagree and can leave to name calling out of it. I’m just asking you to be less ridiculous with your retort. There wasn’t any reason that required you to say “spoken like a true ass.” simply over a random statement.

I apologize if I offended you in some unknown way (if your in the teaching field, etc.) but it was just intended to play off the earlier comment. My bad for not including “/sarcasm” to my statement, I’ll remember that for later or simply avoid it.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Oct 31, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

now who is the ass?

Not all of us directly state when we’re sarcastic. In fact, I’d say most of us TCers dont.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even though I knew the chances were slim to none, I was secretly hoping to see Andres Galarraga in the headline of our hitting coach hire.

From the read on AJC – it seems like Parrish convinced Wren he was the best candidate. Of the few they interviewed.

DOB Article about him HERE
 

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"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Oct 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Wonder if this might have pushed the hire...
The Orioles have agreed to hire Rick Adair as their bullpen coach and Jim Presley as hitting coach, reports Dan Connolly of The Baltimore Sun.

But either way, getting Parrish seems to feel better than hiring Presley.

Bobby Cox, advising Jeff Francoeur about being thrown out of a game: "you’ll probably have to write a $500 check. Or you can do what I do, write a $10,000 one and tell them when it runs out, let me know."

by carpengui on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

(of course the Braves’ decision to hire Parrish might have forced the hand of the Orioles, too)

Bobby Cox, advising Jeff Francoeur about being thrown out of a game: "you’ll probably have to write a $500 check. Or you can do what I do, write a $10,000 one and tell them when it runs out, let me know."

by carpengui on Oct 30, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something to consider

For everyone who thought that Don Baylor was the end-all be-all batting coach.

Lifetime batting average of .260, 338 homers, OBP .342. Really, not all that different in the long run.

"There are only two seasons—winter and baseball." — Bill Veeck

by Matthew Jones on Oct 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

What does one thing have to do with the other?

Baylor has a proven track record as an instructor. He changed Galarraga’s stance when they were together in St. Louis in ‘92 and helped revive his career. He changed Chipper’s approach at the plate in 1999 and Chipper has always given him major credit for his MVP season.

by Sam Jethroe on Oct 31, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

swinging at balls watching stricks go by

One of the most memmorable quotes from TP-“if you know this, then make my job easier” spoken to AJ when asked if could hit to the opposite field.
AJ responded with " I know I should do that". A good hitting coach does not ask his player for anything. his job is to instruct and teach when he see’s a flaw. If the player does not conform then it is the managers job to inspire or produce the desired effects needed by the player. If the player refuses and continues to decline or create a negative with in the club it is the FO job to replace him. Andrew refused to adapt and he was released. I have noticed a big trend on some of the not so herorlded players to swing at pitches outside of the strike zone and let pitches in the strike zone go by. Whenever I see a player over and over again swing at ball four with runners on base, I want to see someone with a wet towel slap the batting coach. I know there are occassions that the pitcher is responsible for this with a good pitch decision and or location, but there are so many more occassions that show the batter is looking for RBI oppertunities (selfishness) than team support. These types of production fall strictly on the batting coach. If he can influence the batters to conform to what is better for the club he is doing his job. The HC is not going to make a hitter better at hitting, but will make him better at doing the little things that are productive for the team.

bravesfan1957

by rwh41360 on Oct 30, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe that's really the thing.

TP was moved away from the hitting coach post because Wren knew he might resign Andruw and he didn’t want to put TP in an insane asylum. Andruw drove him absolutely nuts.

by cavebird on Oct 31, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andruw was NOT released by the Braves. The Braves told him that they would not be attempting to re-sign him and wished him the best in free agency. I’m pretty sure that his refusal to hit to the other field had little to nothing to do with the decision. It was all about the dollars. If I remember correctly, Boras was talking $20 million a season for something like 10 years while Andruw was finishing up his final season in Atlanta.

Anyway, telling all hitters to become opposite field hitters is bs. Barry Bonds and Ted Williams are proof of that.

by Zontar on Nov 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be nice

for Fredi to make every hitter work out with Chip this offseason

by drumzalicious on Oct 30, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Total upgrade

Terry P should have been totally relieved of any duty with the ATL Braves. Cannot believe they dumped Hubbard and are going to allow T. P. to be the 1st base coach. OF course Freddie G and Terry are best friends so that is why he was retained. Glad to see that Freddi had enough sense to know that Terry wasn’t a good hitting coach and the team clearly needed a new one.

I view this move as a good one and anyone is a true upgrade over Terry P. Just wish we could have brought back D. Baylor he was a great hitting coach his last stint with the Bravos.

Good luck in the offseason Freddi and Frank Wren your gonna need it.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 31, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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