Braves 2010 Season in Review: Jair Jurrjens
by Scott Coleman on Oct 28, 2010 8:01 AM EDT
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PrintAfter (arguably) being the Braves' pitching MVP of 2009, Jair Jurrjens came into the 2010 season with a ton of expectations. Unfortunately for our 24-year old from Curacao, he struggled with injuries throughout the season and was never able to get on track.
Despite making 20 starts and pitching 116.1 innings for the Braves this past season, most will view Jair's 2010 season as a forgettable one. The first of his injuries came in his 5th start of the season; with an un-impressive line of 0-3 and 4.92ERA (4.74 FIP), Jurrjens aggravated his right hamstring in St. Louis against the Cardinals. He only made it through one inning before being pulled. He was diagnosed with a strained hamstring, but with proper rest and rehabilitation, most figured Jair would only miss a few weeks. Unfortunately for him, things didn't go as smoothly as planned.
After taking nearly three weeks off, JJ attempted to test his hamstring in Milwaukee in pre-game warmups. After just a few strides, Jair was on the ground holding his hamstring. He had re-aggravated his hammy and would be forced to go back onto the 15-day disabled list for the second time in a month. To be perfectly honest, things weren't looking great.
After missing a month and a half, Jurrjens returned to the Braves on June 30th and actually pitched pretty well. With all eyes on his ailing hamstring, Jair threw five strong innings against the Washington Nationals and recorded his first victory of the season. This was actually the start of a pretty strong set of starts from JJ and he went on to have the best month of his season in July. In July, he pitched at least six innings in each of his five starts. He posted an ERA of 3.84 and FIP of 3.90 and ended up with a record of 2-1 in a stretch that included the Phillies, Padres and Reds. That's pretty solid for a guy who hadn't pitched in two months.
Jair continued to pitch well in the first half of August and it looked as if he had re-gained his 2009 form. Unfortunately for both JJ and the Braves, something went terribly wrong towards the end of the month and it ultimately led to his season being cut short. After being staked to what appeared to be an insurmountable 9-1 lead in Colorado, Jurrjens inexplicably lost total command on the mound and surrendered seven runs in what would turn out to be one of the more crushing loses of the season. In his next start agains New York, Jurrjens (who actually won the game... LOLMets!) walked six batters in five innings and had no control of his pitches from the first inning. For a guy known for his phenomenal command, this was very troubling. What in the world was going on with JJ?
As it turns out, we learn that Jurrjens is actually pitching with a slightly torn meniscus in his right knee. After a stellar start in Florida (where the knee didn't appear to bother Jair at all), it all came undone against the Cardinals as he gave up seven runs in only 3.2 innings. Disgusted with his recent pitching performance down the stretch, JJ tried to give it one more shot against the Nationals. It didn't turn out well, and it would end up being his final start in 2010.
The Braves shut Jair down after that start and he wouldn't return to the mound in either the regular or post-season. Instead, the training staff focused on rehabbing his knee and eventually sent him to have arthroscopic knee surgery to repair the torn meniscus.
Outlook on 2011 and Beyond:
It would seem foolish to deal Jurrjens in the off-season as his value is at an all-time low, but I guess Frank Wren will at least listen to potential offers. Last off-season was probably the oppertune time to deal Jair as he's not likely to stay in Atlanta once his current contract is up (Scott Boras, we hate you.), but it's pointless to play the "what if?" game. As for the 2011 season, it's pretty safe to pencil JJ in as our 4th starter behind Hudson, Hanson and Lowe. All reports indicated his knee surgery went well and he should be ready for Spring Training. All Braves fans can hope for is a speedy recovery and for our 24-year old to re-gain his 2009 form.
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Scott Boras
Represents everything that has caused baseball to become economically broken
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Oct 28, 2010 8:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Scott Boras, by and large, represents...
…his clients. They want the cash. Everybody knows exactly what Boras is about, players do not sign up with him blindly.
MLB is economically healthy. Overall, the teams make money. Some don’t and there is great disparity in resources, but that is a problem with the owners failing to create an equitable framework within themselves to maintain competitive balance.
NONONONONONONO!!!!!!!!!!!!11
The players are greedy!! Its there fault!! They forse the ownerz to pay them all the money and make everything cost so much if they were’n’t so greedy the woners are nice and they would make the prices low and everybody would dance and laugh and sing songs and hold hands and be happy all day!!!! I hate baseball players and the evil buttfaces who help them be so greedy!!!
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Oct 28, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You do realize that baseball's economic disparity
is equally the product of ignorant, greedy owners, and greedy players, right? They both have an equal hand in this particular pot of piss.
Any “equitable framework” will have to be a part of the CBA process. The MLBPA is very strong.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Obviously
My post very clearly and eloquently states as much. I don’t see how you missed that.
But seriously, I just think it’s silly to blame Boras and the players and act like the owners aren’t equally driven by profits.
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
See I read that as sarcasm to mean that it’s really the owners fault.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Because they'd pay players salaries they can't afford...
not individually, but as a whole now, they’d pay an amount in salaries they couldn’t sustain because Boras said so? Let’s be honest, it is the owners signing the checks, and they pay what they think they can afford. So yes, it is all on the owners.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Well...
It kinda IS the owners’ fault. They are the owners. They set the prices for everything. And we pay those prices and generate all of that revenue. The players are rightly going after their fair share of that revenue, seeing as how they are the ones the fans are paying to see. If the owners brought in less revenue due to lower ticket and concession prices, the players would have to take less, because there would be less money to spread around.
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Oct 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m almost positive the owners don’t solely determine what a player makes. Where the problem lies is owners agreeing to ridiculous contracts like ARod’s 10/250 or Jeter’s 10/190. Players and their agents submit proposals based on their perceived worth to a franchise. So yes, if you believe owners are exclusively to blame for baseball economics, you are missing the picture completely.
People who blame the owners exclusively are just as wrong as the people who blame the players exclusively.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
"owners agreeing to ridiculous contracts like ARod’s 10/250 or Jeter’s 10/190"
I think you are failing to acknowledge the first two words there. The owners have to agree to those deals. No one forces them to pay that much for a player, but they agree to them because they will attempt to make it on the backend through TV revenue, ticket and jersey sales, etc. If they don’t think the player is worth that much, they pay them less. Or if they were unable to charge outrageously for concessions, tickets, jerseys, hats, etc, then they’d still pay the players less because they wouldn’t be worth as much. But ultimately, the owners pay only what they are willing to pay, and to blame the players for the owner’s decisions on a player’s worth, or the revenue they can bring in, ignores who is signing the checks and agreeing to these deals.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I concur with this
If the money weren’t there, Boras could make all the sill demands he wants, but no one would meet them.
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
If you honestly believe that Tom Hicks decided on his own to pay ARod
250 million for 10 years, then I really don’t know what else to say.
Players and their agents are the ones making the demands. Clearly, you don’t understand how collective bargaining works.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Clearly you don't understand how contract negotiations work...
walk into your bosses office on Monday and ask for 10 yrs/$250m and see how that goes. Then come back and tell me that making demands is all that needs to happen to get paid.
So yes, Hicks decided that on his own, considering he had to agree to pay it, could have said “I’m not paying that much”, and that amount was much more than anyone else had offered ARod at that point. Perhaps you underestimate Tom Hicks’ utter incompetence at running a professional sports team.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Didn't he go to Miami and personally hates the Braves as well?
Scott Boras: behavioral econ at work.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I’d only trade JJ if the return was an elite, young position player like Colby Rasmus.
What is the deal with all the Braves players secretly playing through injuries the last few years? There is something very wrong going on with the Braves’ medical staff.
The Cardinals would never do that.
They need a CF more than another SP. JJ should get a solid return, however. In the rosterbation thread Span was suggested and that seemed reasonably fair—-both had two good seasons followed by a down season in 2010.
Was Span’s down year caused by injury though? JJ still showed this year what he can do when healthy, and his knee is now repaired. If Span’s performance suffered sans injury, JJ is a massive overpay for him. JJ is probably an overpay anyway. Span is a nice player, but he doesn’t have power, which is the one thing we’re sorely missing. If we’re gonna deal one of our young, cost-controlled stud pitchers, we better be getting back a 25-30 homer threat for left or center, not another guy whose only skill is OBP. Span’s speed isn’t even really enough to be a game changer, I’d be looking at other options.
And for the record, I’m for holding onto JJ unless moving him nets a top-five offensive guy like a Braun.
Well, then you are for holding onto JJ.
He certainly won’t get a Braun. We’d be crazy not to deal him for Rasmus, but he won’t get Rasmus either. As for JJ, his knee may now be fixed through surgery, but he hasn’t actually pitched since it was repaired.
As for Span, yes, maybe a slugger would be a better fit, but there aren’t many CF’s available; hell we don’t even know if Span is. He would be a true leadoff man, which may not be our biggest need (I think speed is overrated), but he certainly would be very useful. As for Span’s 2010 season, it looks like the poorer performance was more luck induced than anything. While his BB% went down a little, so did his K% and his BB/K remained exactly the same as 2009. His LD, GB, and FB percentages remained about the same as 2009 as well. Despite this, his BABIP was way down. Just too many at-em balls perhaps.
I mean I’m not disparaging Span, he’s a great piece now that his defense has improved, but I just don’t think getting him is worth giving up an established starter with JJ’s ceiling. He may not be an ace, but he’s a great #2/borderline #1 when he’s on, and a good #3 at worst. Losing him hurts our pitching staff more than adding Span helps the offense, so that’s an easy deal to pass up.
And yes, I am for keeping JJ. I only threw in that caveat to keep a troll from saying something stupid like “even if it brought in someone like Braun?” I just don’t think there’s a deal out there that helps us enough to justify moving JJ at this point. Maybe if Meds was healthy, but certainly not in our current circumstances.
I don't agree on the low value evaluation
Sure he had his injuries this season, but the two years previous he was really really good. And the injuries were not to his pitching arm. I liken this season to the season Yovanni Gallardo had 2 years ago. This season his poor stats were caused by injury, but he had one very good month when he was healthy this season. A knee injury and a pulled hamstring aren’t going to cause teams to shy away from a pitcher with a career 3.50 ERA and 3.7 and 3.8 WAR the previous 2 years.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
I think the argument...
isn’t necessarily that his value is “low” right now. The argument is that JJ’s value is at an all-time low, which I don’t think is much of a stretch. Had we traded him after last year or even the year before, his value was probably higher, due to there being a lack of injury concern.
by atlbravosfan on Oct 28, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
At a low for him would be correct too...
his performance last year wasn’t like his first two years, and he’s now entering arb as opposed to having at least one, or two, seasons at minimum salary. He still carries considerable value in my mind, but not as much as he would have after 2008 or 2009.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 28, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
If JJ won't stay in Atlanta once his current contract is up...
…he has thrown his last pitch as a Brave. His contract expired at the end of the season. However, we still control him for three more years in arbitration, which will likley mean three more one year contracts. After that, he is likely gone (if he isn’t traded before then) regardless of who his agent is; with the pitchers we have coming up through the system, we don’t need to keep all of our pitchers when they hit free agency, and Hanson is probably the one to keep over JJ.
Idk
even though JJ is a Boras’ client, he has stated he wants to be a Brave. Shoot, his dad has always liked the Braves and was openly excited about his son being traded to the Braves. I think JJ has been the heart of this pitching staff the past three years and I hope he gets healthy fast and with the Braves
The first of his injuries came in his 5th start of the season; with an un-impressive line of 0-3 and 4.92ERA (4.74 FIP)
My argument is that his first injury came during spring training and he never was really able to get into a groove for a long period after that. When he came back, he just wasn’t in sync, as shown by his terrible ERA and FIP in his first 5 starts. He began the year hurt and finished the year hurt. That about sums up his season for me.
The problem with trading JJ in the offseason
isn’t so much that he had a bad or injury-plagued year, it’s that he ended the year hurt. Unless he’s going to play some winter ball somewhere (which is a possibility, but I haven’t heard anything about that…), the team trading for him is just going to have to assume that his knee, hamstring, shoulder, etc. are OK. Which effectively lowers his value significantly.
No, I think the time to trade JJ will be during Spring Training (or mid-season) 2011. Let him prove that he’s back healthy, and let Beachy and Minor prove that they’re both ready for full-time duty, however long that takes (hopefully not very long). Then we can trade JJ for a better return. We should also have a better idea of what our needs are by that point. And if we end up keeping him for 2011, that’s a good result, too, since it’s not like his 2011 salary will break the bank (I’d think it’ll end up around $4M, max).
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Oct 28, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
Isn't it relatively clear
what the Braves’ needs are now? I am not really a fan of trading JJ at all, but the Braves can’t wait till Spring Training fix that OF problem. The only problem I can foresee possibly having to fix in Spring Training is if Chipper decides to call it a career.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 28, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If Chipper calls it a career in Spring Training without giving the Braves any chance to prepare, I’m going to be pissed.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Oct 28, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
right
unlikely, but that or some unforeseen injury should be the only reason that the Braves would need to make big moves in Spring Training. The big move of this offseason has to be the outfield, and there should be no reason not to have that problem resolved before spring training. No?
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way I could see that happening...
is if he reinjures the knee or has another major injury elsewhere on his fragile frame. He’s playing next year barring another significant injury (which neither he nor the team could possibly predict).
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Actually, I’m pretty comfortable predicting a fairly significant injury for Chipper at this point. Just gotta hope he gives us 120+ games.
by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Assuming KK is a lock to be traded to Japan, I don’t think the Braves really have the starting pitching depth for next season to trade an established starter like JJ. Minor and Beachy may be quality major league pitchers in a few years, but there’s no guarantee they’re both ready to be part of a playoff contending rotation next year. And of course there’s the uncertainty of whether Lowe can repeat what he did in September for a full year.
But if there are no takers for KK...
or if the FO balks at paying him to play for someone else, then JJ could be the one to move.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
May not be true, but....
Wren has repeatedly said pitching is hard to get and he’s not trading it away. I think Pac is on the right track, let JJ. Minor and Beachy develop a little more, let the logjam get a little bigger, then trade next mid-season.
We all hate it, but Wren will probably just pick up a reclamation project OFer to go with Heyward, McLouth, Diaz and Hinske.
Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball
I think having a huge logjam actually hurts JJs value a bit. Also, you’re assuming we resign Diaz and Hinske, neither of which is a sure thing.
by king of games on Oct 28, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I am assuming we re-sign Diaz and Hinske, seems like a pretty safe assumption to me.
Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball
I don't...
add both, to Infante, Ross, and Conrad, and that’s your full bench (unless one of those 3 isn’t around). And it’s weak defensively, without a backup CF. I don’t see that as our bench going into next year.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
That’s where the “reclamation project OFer” comes in.
Honestly, nobody knows what our bench will look like next year. Ross is backup catcher. I assume Infante will be there, as Super Utility. Hinske understands and enjoys his role helping younger players, backing up 1B and LF. He should be affordable too.
We need a RH pinch hitter, another infielder and another outfielder. The possibilities are endless….Young, Timmons, Conrad, Diaz, W Ramirez if he is re-signed, Frenchy, Andruw, Clevlen, Hicks, Diory.
In reality, I expect Wren to re-sign Hinske. There are better options than Diaz, but I still think he’ll be back. I think we might see a Diaz/McLouth platoon in LF, with McLouth as the back up CFer. Until his contract is shed, we are stuck with him. He can’t hit lefties and he can’t throw the ball from CF. Who’s our CFer the majority of the season? Who knows. Young, Heyward, Andruw, Frenchy, DeJesus, Crisp, Clevlen, or some other half assed CF reclamation project.
Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball
There are only 5 spots though...
add Hinske and Diaz, you take all 5 without room for your reclamation project. IMO, we’ve got room for one or the other between Diaz and Hinske as LF/1B, but not both. And Conrad can fill that RH pinch hitter, as can Infante or Ross.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I’ve watched the Braves for years, I’ve never seen Diaz play 1st base, but I’ve always respected your opinion, I’ll accept that he can. What you are missing in my bench is that it doesn’t include a starting CFer. That’s 6 players, not 5. I understand the bench only has 5 players.
Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball
Diaz played...
2 innings at 1st in the majors, and another game in the minors.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/diazma02.shtml
I think if he focused on it during a spring and winter, he could be serviceable.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I'm not saying I'd want him as starting 1B...
should Freeman get hurt or struggle, but I do think he could fill the spot in a pinch, and that he and Hinske are options for that bench spot, one or the other but not both.
Backup C-Ross
Backup IF-Infante
Pinch hitter-Conrad (switch so he works left and right)
Now a lefty bat is needed, as well as a backup CF, unless one guy fills both (like McLouth) leaving another open spot. Or if we add a CF and go with McLouth in LF.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
OK, Diaz and Hinske might both be gone, or maybe 1 returns. I understand where you are coming from. But, from a financial standpoint, depending on who Wren gets for CF, I can still see Hinske as the backup 1st base and Diaz as platoon partner with McLouth in LF with McLouth also backing up CF. I hate to keep posting this, but I’m having nightmares about Wren signing Frenchy gor $1.5M and using him and Heyward in RF/CF. I’m expecting very low dollar signings this off season.
RF Heyward/Frenchy
CF Frenchy/Heyward/McLouth
LF Diaz/McLouth
Bench – Ross, Infante, Hinske, Conrad, LF platoon partner
Does that explain better where I’m at?
Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball
I see Diaz coming back easier than Hinske. We need to be able to platoon him with McLouth and find someone to put in center, even if it’s a defensive piece (so loong as said piece has a serviceable OBP. No more =>.300 OBP guys). Hinske’s value was mostly as a PH, which Brooksy can also do admirably from the left side. Brooksy is an ideal PH because he has pop from either side of the plate and he seems to do well when not overexposed for long stretches. So a bench of Ross, infante, Conrad, Diaz/McLouth, and hopefully Matt Young makes the most sense.
I got the impression Hinske liked playing in Atlanta. I read an interview with him where he talked about his role on the bench, helping the younger guys understand the “team” concept and how much he liked that role. Maybe he moves on, but I won’t be surprised if he’s back.
Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball
The question isn't whether trading JJ would hurt our pitching...
…the question is whether we can live with the weakening of our pitching more or less than we can live with what we have in CF and LF. Our needs are obvious. Our positions of strength are obvious. Obviously we don’t trade JJ just to get rid of him; we only trade him for something that really helps us, like an outfielder, an outfielder, or maybe an outfielder. It all depends on the return we get.
As for waiting until Spring Training or mid-season, that is certainly an option. If we don’t make a deal for an OF, however, we’ll already know where our needs are. His value could easily rise simply by being healthy and pitching well. On the other hand, that involves risk too—-if he gets reinjured, we don’t have him or what we could have traded him for. I think JJ is a guy where it is all about the plus and minus—-he’s not so valuable as to be untouchable and he obviously isn’t worthless so we don’t want to give him up for less than his value.
Anyone heard about the possibility of buying out JJs arby years?
That could actually be beneficial to us either financially or in trade value.
Moving JJ mid-season
seems to be the best option. If he pitches well, move him for a premium. If not, move him next offseason. I would argue our depth at pitching is much greater than outfield. Therefore, we can bolster the club by balancing talent. Example: Long term, I would prefer Minor and a great outfielder as opposed to JJ and Nate McClouth. It’s also not as if the Braves will suddenly find a ton of better outfielders in the farm system. The Braves know they have pitching depth now and in the future but cannot say the same for offensive production.
Jurrjens was not 2009 MVP
Javier Vasquez had a much better year in 2009 than Jurrjens. Once I read the first sentence I couldn’t read anymore. Get a better lede and I might continue to read more
by sherlock holmes on Oct 28, 2010 2:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
lol
While Javy had the better numbers, go check the run support we gave Jair in 2010. And you might want to see what JJ did in August and September too…
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by Scott Coleman on Oct 28, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention
he WAS the pitching staff in 2008, the only guy who made it through a full season. I would call him the 2008 MVP. He did that as a rookie!
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s one of the best #3 pitchers in the game and even a decent #2 if he has to be. I’m just hoping 2010 is a fluke and he returns back to his ‘08/’09 form in 2011. We could get quite a bit for him next off-season.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Oct 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Words:
Garbage Season
16 Division Titles, 7 NL Pennants, 1 Wild Card, 3 World Series Titles....this is the Braves.
by romone_braves91 on Oct 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
Happy 15 year anniversary of the day Glavine 1 hit the Indians to clinch the Atlanta Braves’ first World Series.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Oct 28, 2010 5:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What exactly do you give someone for that?
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
bacon. everyone likes bacon.
Unless you’re a vegetarian.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Oct 28, 2010 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There's always turkey bacon.
Turkey’s don’t have feelings, so it’s okay to eat them.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
There's no need for an apostrophe on that turkeys.
Punctuation Nazi has spoken.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
It's a myth that vegetarians don't enjoy meat
They just enjoy killing animals less than eating them. I ate vegetarian for over a year, and I love meat. Just sayin’.
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Oct 29, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
candlesticks always make a nice gift and uh, maybe you could find out where she’s registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
It's a sorry state of affairs...
…when this post has been up on a baseball blog for over 2 hours and no one has +1’d this. So, +1.
Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Oct 29, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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