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Conspiracy Theory

First off, I'm bored.

Second, this is a half-crocked attempt at a bit of spirited and whimsical debate. I don't expect this to bear any provable truths, it's just a wacky conspiracy theory and should be interpreted as such. That said, here it is.

Frank Wren traded Yunel Escobar not because of Bobby Cox, but because of Fredi Gonzalez.

That's right, I said it.

Let's be honest. Bobby could have probably put up with Yunel for the remainder of the season, and so could the team.

However, who's the one person who could ill-afford to have yet another run-in with a problematic shortstop??

Fredi Gonzalez, the successor to Bobby's throne.

May 19: Hanley Ramirez has his altercation with Fredi Gonzalez.

June 23: Fredi Gonzalez is fired as manager of the Florida Marlins.

July 14: Three weeks to the day that Gonzalez is fired, Yunel Escobar is traded to Toronto for Alex Gonzalez.

After one spat with a prima donna shortstop, Gonzalez cannot withstand the potential of another occurrence. It could mar his reputation as a manager, both with front offices as well as with players. He has to maintain a level of respect from both sides in order to succeed as a manager.

In Yunel Escobar, that possibility of a rift clearly existed. He had his own squabbles with Cox, and things didn't appear as if they'd change for the better any time soon.

So Yunel gets shipped away for one player Frank Wren knows can coexist with Fredi: Alex Gonzalez.

Fredi's first manager job came in 1997 with the Portland Sea Dogs. Interestingly, Alex Gonzalez was the starting shortstop on that team. Both Gonzalezes reached the major leagues together in 1999 (it should be noted that the SS played 25 games with the Marlins in 1998), with the shortstop being a rookie and the elder Gonzalez taking over 3rd base coach duties with the Marlins. In total, they have three years of history together prior to this season. And they're both Gonzalezes.

So there you have it, folks. Frank Wren orchestrated this deal, pulled these strings long before anyone else could pull them, before any of the yarn binding this team together could really unravel. He did it during Bobby's tenure because Bobby's history with Yunel was well-known, and Bobby could easily handle the criticism of the situation as he rode off into the sunset. In so doing, Bobby again protected one of his guys, one Fredi Gonzalez, heir apparent.

-C

PS: Tune in with us next whenever I'm bored for another installment of Braves of Our Lives.

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It was our parting gift to Bobby. Nice try though ha ha.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Oct 22, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Go suck on a lemon!!

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

One snag...

It has been documented that the two Gonzalezes (Fredi and Alex) actually had some issues themselves. Why would Bobby bring in a guy who Fredi had problems with in the past?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Oct 22, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

In his first year as a Marlins third base coach, Gonzalez also lit into another shortstop who stood accused of jaking it.

"I think we are all waiting for the day when he grows up and plays like he can play," Gonzalez said at the time.

Gonzalez had periodic run-ins with the player while managing him in the minors. "Everyone is just tired of the immaturity and of him getting pulled out of the game. It’s been a constant from Day 1."

That player was Alex Gonzalez, the Braves current shortstop.

From the AJC

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Oct 22, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or make a move to weaken a team in the midst of a playoff chase...

for a weaker return when you could just as easily avoid a Fredi/Yunel situation by moving him in the off season when you can either get a better return, or in the least not demand a starting caliber SS in return as part of that package?

This theory makes no sense in the slightest. Also, reports on Yunel describe an entirely different style of “prima donna” than Ramirez.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I thought the conspiracy theory...

…was that Mr. Sanchez and justincredible were actually two screen names of the same person who works out his issues arguing with himself on this board.

by cavebird on Oct 22, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be awesome.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 23, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying there is a conspiracy that gondeee is the actual Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (and yes I had to look that up)

by KJDH2154 on Oct 23, 2010 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was actually Colonel Mustard in the Study with a candlestick!

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Oct 22, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

its always that damn colonel

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Oct 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I coulda swore Tim Curry did it all

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s all a ploy to get us to fall in love with Elvis Andrus. Having all this shortstop turmoil and making us say “if only we never traded you…”

by thenightstallion on Oct 23, 2010 9:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I dunno about that

he isn’t a premium offensive player, he is a work in progress. But his OBP was still at .340. If he gets caught less on the basepaths he would be a boon. Either way, a 4 WAR player.

by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 24, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting comments by Ron Washington...

about him being a leader in the clubhouse.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 25, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

basically...

said he’ll get on veterans for making mistakes. They get on him some too, but he takes it in stride and according to Washington is one of their leaders.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 25, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool Conspiracy theory bro.

"There's nothing better than a Baseball game" - Bobby Cox 10/13/2010

by kp.atl on Oct 24, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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