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Do Braves Have Interest In Yankees Shortstop Nunez

From Jon Heyman's column on SI.com today comes this tidbit:

The Braves have asked about Yankees shortstop prospect Eduardo Nunez. But New York may see him as an heir apparent to Derek Jeter (in a year or two, anyway), so its decision not to include him in a potential Cliff Lee trade is a bit more understandable.

Heyman's description of Nunez as a prospect and an heir apparent to Jeter is a bit of a stretch. Nunez is good defensively, but probably won't hit enough in the Majors to be anything more than a utility player. This could be a sign that the Braves are trying to acquire a more capable backup defensive infielder for next year's team. This is something I listed last week as one of the more important needs for the Braves this off-season.

Nunez has good speed and has shown good defensive ability at all the infield positions. With an aging Jeter, it seems like it would be hard to pry him away from the Yankees, and he's not someone who the Braves should overpay for.

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Interesting article...

is interesting.

"There's nothing better than a Baseball game" - Bobby Cox 10/13/2010

by kp.atl on Oct 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

We already have like 12 SSs in our system.

Is Nunez really closer to the majors than all of them?

by king of games on Oct 22, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Nunez has played in MLB

so, yeah, he’s closer than anyone we’ve got outside of Hicks… Nunez definitely has more bat than Hicks.

by theatlfan on Oct 22, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interested in Nunez

Not sure if he’ll just be a Utility guy or if he has a chance to more. He’s got speed and hit .300 until a late season swoon (I have no data to know if that was due to injury, fatigue, or simply inconsistent PT though).

Any word on his D?

by theatlfan on Oct 22, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

You know who I want?

There’s this shortstop… I think he plays for some team up north.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

The one in Canadia?

Yeah, I hear that guy is a talented stud. His team would have to be CRAZY to trade him though…

by J-Freak on Oct 22, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Canada’s got a team? I don’t know if we can take his Canadian attitude around here, though. I’ve heard that those guys aren’t very friendly, not very nice, and cannot speak English (I think that they can speak French fluently).

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Vast majority of French-speaking Canadians live in Quebec, not Ontario.

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Oct 22, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize for not only my mistake, but my continued indifference.

No, seriously, I didn’t know that.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean the guy...

that posted an 80 OPS+ for the season, 11th worst in the league, and a -4.1 UZR/150 (or a 1 DRS, if you prefer that defensive metric) while playing for Canada??

Must be pretty solid…

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your logic has no place here…

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
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by cbwilk on Oct 22, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, this is also the same guy who posted far superior numbers in the 3 years prior to this one. But hey, 1 year totally outweighs any past production!

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 22, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course he does...

I’m not going to dispute that. I’ve never disputed that.

However, you have to start wondering whether or not he can rebound from this season. Perhaps that “headcase” label everyone has affixed to him has actually begun affecting his play.

One would think a change of scenery would help him. It did initially, but his production was still a good deal worse than it was earlier in his career, in a much friendlier stadium. His defense got worse, which hasn’t happened before (and, to be fair, I think he’ll have no issues with it coming back…should be an elite fielder for several more years).

It’s all very curious, but his lack of power is pretty disturbing. It’s not a ballpark-weighted stat, so playing in Toronto should have provided a nice boost. He’s not at Elvis Andrus’s level of power-futility, but he is 7th-worst among all qualified MLB players in that regard. One would think he could out-slug Erick Aybar by a significant margin.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhh...

Yunel Escobar has not only shown that he is better than Alex Gonzalez, JJ Hardy, and Nunez in the past; but is bound to be better in the future than Alex Gonzalez, JJ Hardy, and Eduardo Nunez.

Can we all agree with that statement?

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Let’s see how he does next year.

Even with his improved numbers in Toronto, he was considerably worse at the plate than Gonzalez, if you look at the numbers as a whole.

I have no trouble believing he’ll bounce back, but it is far from certain. It would be foolish to assume that he’ll be better.

And, to be fair, we really don’t have much clue how good Eduardo Nunez will be.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if I asked you to take one of the four, under their current contracts, for next year, who would you take?

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next year??

Gonzalez. He’s probably the third cheapest, unless Escobar has a poor arbitration result. Even with a poor result, Escobar’s salary will be comparable.

Of the gloves, you have to figure Escobar will be best, followed by Gonzalez.

Gonzalez had a horrendous Sept/Oct, which ripped his offensive production stats down by the short and curlies. Do I think that was a result of him being an inferior ballplayer?? No.

If you watched the games, and I assumed most of us did, he was clearly pressing, trying too hard, and that had a significant negative effect upon his play.

Next year, no Bobby Cox drama, no trade to deal with, I think he rebounds pretty well. He fits in, he’s there from the beginning, and his only job is to play baseball, not send the best manager of a generation riding into the sunset with a World Series ring. I don’t think he’ll post Toronto numbers, but I think he returns to Toronto form, with a little more willingness to take a walk here and there.

Yunel, on the other hand, I have no clue what to think. If his offense is so superior to Gonzalez’s, he should have thrived in Toronto. He didn’t. He started off with a bang, but failed to match his previous totals in a much better offensive situation.

The Toronto lineup had more power than the Braves, had fewer holes, was just better all-around, aside from the Braves’ incredible OBP. And he continued to struggle, although not as greatly.

I genuinely hope he rebounds, as he was one of my favorite Braves (and, if you search back, I supported him long after everyone else was calling for his head prior to the trade).

Nunez could become a better player than either Gonzalez or Escobar, but I don’t think it happens next year. I think even if we do trade for him, he won’t start until the 2012 season. Some might think that’s a waste, but he provides adequate cover in the event of injuries and he’s still got four more cost-controlled years after 2011. And maybe we can actually rest Gonzalez. He took all of two games off after the trade, playing in the unbearable heat of Atlanta.

I just plain don’t want Hardy. He’s not a bad player, but he’s going to be prohibitively expensive ($5M+), and there’s no sign that he’s going to have his power return to his previous heights. That money can be spent better elsewhere.

You’re paying for those two big HR seasons in the form of arbitration, but you don’t get credit for them come Elias rankings time because Elias only accounts for the past two years. So you’re essentially paying for the ability to get picks back due to his play, but you aren’t going to get those picks.

I don’t get to watch him play much, but it seems like he has a sound glove, according to the metrics. I don’t think his power translates a whole lot better in Turner than it did at Target, and you’re paying a large sum up-front for just one year, so I don’t think it’s worth it.

So there you have it. My choice, and my reasons in regard to each player.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez “horrible” Sep/Oct is not the exception in his case. His April – July is.

He has had a horrible career at the plate. Don’t let 3-4 months of over-his-head production fool you. He is, always has been and always will be a terrible hitter.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 22, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure it is.

With a career line of .248/.294/.402, a line of .209/.237/.327 in a month is an exception.

I don’t see any reason why an OPS of .725 would be out of line. It’s a modest .030 increase over his career totals. Barring a trade or injury, it will be the first time he’s been able to settle in for an entire year since 2007, which was a great season for him.

That projection doesn’t favorably compare with Yunel’s career OPS, but it comes without any of the headaches associated with the player, especially if Yunel’s performance this season is more than a simple slump.

The SS position is one that you can afford to play safe at, as most teams do.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If

You look at Yunel’s and Sea Bass’ numbers since the trade, i’d say Yunel had a better slash line

"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann

by HansonManCrush on Oct 23, 2010 9:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yunel – .275/.340/.356 (.696 ops), with 7 2B and 4 HR in 60 games.
Gonzalez – .240/.291/.386 (.676 ops), with 17 2B, 2 3B, and 6 HR in 72 games.

Much more power, worse avg, much worse obp, but a lot more durable.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes durable...

Escobar is constantly banged up and missing games, having missed over 20 every season.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 25, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

And other than OBP...

he wasn’t much better than Gonzalez at the plate after the trade, 17 2B to 7, 2 to 0 on 3B, 6 to 2 on HR.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is....

we had OBP above him, we needed power to drive in runs. So for what we would ideally ask of him (meaning without injuries to Chipper and Prado above him, and career norm production from one of our two left handed CFs), the SLG would help more.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

god

you’re completely wrong about everything, aren’t you?

by kbertling353 on Oct 25, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

past production does not equal future performance. He’s more likely to be better than those 3, but it’s by no means an absolute fact.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice made up %...

gotta crystal ball? If not, then it’s a crap shoot. Yunel may bounce back, or he may Melky his way out of the league.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 25, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But Escobar posted a 91 OPS+ for Canada. And for the year overall, he had a UZR/150 of +4.2.

(I’m not sure where you find the team by team splits).

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

If the Braves want more offensive production, why would yal want to get rid of Gonzalez? There are no better options out there other than MAYBE Hardy, but he will stay with the Twins

by cjones2010 on Oct 22, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he BLOWS. Almost any shortstop you care to name other than obvious busts, like Izturis or Theriot, get on base at a better clip than Gonzo, including the dearly departed.

by J-Freak on Oct 22, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

One toke over the line...

Izturis does NOT get on base better than Gonzalez. And he has absolutely no power whatsoever, while Gonzalez had the 4th-best SLUG% in the league for shortstops (and before anyone mentions the weighting of Toronto in his case but fails to account for it in Yunel’s, Alex’s SLUG% with the Braves was good for about 10th in the league for SS).

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 22, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you’re making the case for death by shovel to the head or death by hammer to the head, I’m sure one option is going to hurt much less. But frankly, both would blow.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read it again

I said anyone OTHER THAN obvious busts like Izturis. Not everyone to a man is an improvement, but 90% of the guys out there would be.

by J-Freak on Oct 22, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are many better offensive productions than a .295 OBP

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 22, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

For example, Jeff Francoeur.

I can’t believe that I just said that.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can he play shortstop?

I know he has the arm. The question mark would be his range.

/sarcasm

by J-Freak on Oct 22, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, since when was Texas up North?

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Oct 25, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully,s means we are trying to get rid of Alex Gonzalez.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 22, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

EDIT: Hopefully, this

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 22, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so

I really dont think Alex Gonzo is as "solid’ defensively as advertised and he makes me cringe when at the plate… Really didnt like the Yunel trade, was hoping someone in the clubhouse would have put him in his place.

by dean0uga on Oct 22, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

In retrospect, we should have traded for Bautista. Would’ve solved our outfield problem this year, and could have for the next few years.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen quite a few fielding metrics which say that Escobar may be the best defensive shortstop in baseball. I understand why he had to go, but stuff like that just makes it sting even more. I get the impression that many Braves players tried to straighten him out but it was like talking to a wall.

by Zontar on Oct 22, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

But does he have soft hands?

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope, he twitches.

"If I’m batting behind him (Heyward), I tell the umpire, ‘Will you please check that ball,’" Diaz said. "And he’d be like, ‘It didn’t hit the dirt.’ And I’d go, ‘It might be flat.’ He hits the ball so stinking hard."

by vooodooo on Oct 22, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is an attribute

more influential in rosterbation than………

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Oct 22, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Heyman = Ignore

by WyrickKB on Oct 22, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I have interest in Marrissa Miller. Doesn’t mean that its going to ever happen, nor that it should happen.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 22, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

+1

but she’s no Brooklyn Decker…

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 22, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely...

she doesn’t have ARod taint on her.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 23, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

or ARod on her ta…oh, nevermind.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What would it take to get him?

by PhuckthePhillies on Oct 22, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

At the Atlanta Braves’ current trading rate for AL East shortstops with well-below average on-base skills and no power whatsoever to speak of and the Yankees’ habitual consistency of being dicks in the sporting business, I would say… Brian McCann and Julio Teheran out to get it done.

No, but in all seriousness, including McCann ALONG with Teheran in that deal would be ludicrous.

I hate the Phillies so much...

by frozendesert on Oct 22, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

sporting dicks

I like people until I meet them.

by scorby911 on Oct 22, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a second, is Nunez a Boras client?

by Perrinbar on Oct 22, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless the trade is McLouth for Nunez, I think I’d rather keep Unicorn. If we’re looking to go cheaper at SS, then we already have Hicks and Diory, who are both likely to be just as good as Nunez and don’t require giving up anyone in a trade.

"They should just give two ROYs in the NL and skip the AL this year." - KLaw

by Lennox on Oct 22, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get it

Seriously, where did everyone come up with the idea that Hicks and Diory are “likely” to be even acceptably crappy major leaguers.

Hicks in particular. Dude has OPSed .695 in 2 seasons at AA, and .613 last year in AAA. What makes anyone think he’d hit higher than .220 next year in the freakin Major Leagues. I’m not saying he’s done, he’s still only heading into his age 25 year, but seriously, you cannot expect him to provide even a major league backup in the next year, and another year or 2 of sub-700 OPS in AAA, it will be time to forget about him altogether.

As for Diory, first off, he’ll turn 27 the day of the Braves home opener next year. He may be good enough to be a major league backup, MAYBE. He has been solid hitting in AAA lately, but nothing special, almost no power and not great OBP. The other thing is, I think people just assume because he’s a low power SS from the DR he’s got to be some glove wizard, but from what I’ve heard, he’s really not a very good fielder.

Consider this Omar Infante is only 2.5 years older than Diory. Infante has gone .274/.319/.714 in 9 seasons in the majors. Diory has gone .279/.333./.386 in 8 seasons in the minors. He’s basically a minor league version of Infante. Very dependent on average at the plate with not much walking or power, and an OK but not especially good defender at several positions.

People have got to let go of this idea that, if a guy was at one time a prospect, he’s still got some potential to just all the sudden turn into a Major League starter. His potential clock is running down and while he may provide some value, he’s not likely to ever be even a serviceable starter.

For reference, Nunez (who I don’t believe we are getting) is 2 years younger than Hicks, 3 younger than Diory, has put up numbers similar to Diory, has actually had some success in a small sample size in the majors, and is from what I’ve heard is a better fielder. So he’s already probably better than Diory, and there is much more reason to believe he’d get better.

by The Goche on Oct 23, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

P.S. I don’t mean to imply that Nunez is anything special. Just that even a guy like that is much better than Diory or Hicks. Not that it matters, because I do think any such deal is unlikely, but more it just goes to the point that no one is going to enjoy watching Diory or Hicks play any kind of significant role for the Braves next season, and that even with the obnoxiously bad OBP, he’s still much more valuable than any other reasonable option I’ve seen yet.

Even a guy like Hardy who we could get at a reasonable price is only marginally better than Gonzalez (if at all, Hardy still is just a .320ish OBP guy) and he made 5 million last year and will probably get a raise as a free agent. As much as I’d love someone better than Gonzalez, I just don’t think any other guy we really have a shot to get would be much better, and would almost certainly cost a lot more.

by The Goche on Oct 23, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree, but Hicks had a great season in high A a couple of years ago…and i think he is still living on that…i know i still think of that…but he has been pretty bad the past year or two.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Oct 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that Hicks was going to be any good ...

.274/.318/.369/.687

Those are Nunez’s numbers in the minors. He’s a lousy hitter too.

"They should just give two ROYs in the NL and skip the AL this year." - KLaw

by Lennox on Oct 23, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a little unfair to Nunez, in the last 2 years he went .322/.349/.782 as a 22 year old in his 1st year of AA, and .289/.340/.381 as a 23 year old in his first year of AA.

That’s actually solid, if not especially special. He’s actually hit as he’s reached higher levels at a relatively young age. I’d say he’s given a lot of indication he might continue to improve as a hitter.

Incidentally, he is a good basestealer. Not that he steals a ton of bases, but he has a nice success rate.

This is all just academic anyway as I don’t expect us to get him, but I do think he has some value, and more than we have anywhere close to the majors at pretty much any infield position (other than Freddie).

by The Goche on Oct 24, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

to clear that up the 782 is his OPS not his SLG…just if anyone was confused how Nunez SLGd 782…

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Oct 24, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW. WTF

now The Natural will play the World Series

by joshant on Oct 22, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Supplied by ATL and the Texeria deal

Feliz, Andrus,Harrison, Salty, and lastly Frenchy (acquired via trade from Mets- not us), man oh man what a wise move that was. Tex hurt his hammy in the series as well, so typical What a true joke Tex has become sense going to the Yankees for nothing more than the money which is why the Yankees are again suffering another early exit from the postseason.

Still hurts to watch Feliz kid throwing 99 with ease in a clutch time in the top of ninth tonight. Still kimbrel is gonna be a beast, one that hurts the most is losing Andrus, whom we really could use right now, ASAP.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmm

we would have kept Feliz as a starter and he’d be pretty lights out for us.

we’d have Andrus at SS. Escobar, most likely, would have gone, probably with Salty, in a pacakge for a RH bat. Let’s say we did a Escobar, Salty (no need for him, still), R. Delgado and B. Beachy for JUpside deal.

Harrison was just, well, ugh. But could have been included in the deal for McClouth. Thus allowing us to keep Locke. More importantly, with Feliz, we don’t sign KK. I’m asssuming we still sign Lowe, based on the uncertainty with Hudson at the time. We would have NEVER gotten embarassed in the Furcal crap, either.

We’d be looking next year of a team of:

1. Andrus – SS
2. Prado – 3B
3. Heyward – RF
4. JUpside – LF/CF
5. McCann – C
6. McClouth/Diaz – CF/LF
7. Freeman – 1B
8. Infante – 2B

still lefty-heavy, but with LOADS of youth and potential. the rotation is even scarier.

1. Hudson
2. Lowe
3. Hanson
4. Feliz
5. Minor

with Kimbrel and Venters in the ‘pen. more impotantly, we’d have some $$$$$$ to spend (KK) for arb contracts.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 23, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

How would Feliz...

prevent us from signing KK??

Feliz threw all of 30 innings last season for the Rangers, all in relief, for a team that had a horrible rotation at the time. Although our rotation lacked depth at the start of last season (necessitating the Lowe and KK deals), there’s no way he would have been a starter at the beginning of the season. Hanson didn’t even get brought up until June.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 23, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This scenario

Is just so helpful. Thanks so much for your contributions

Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.

by kauf67 on Oct 24, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andrus

Andrus was surplus, he was blocked by Yunel. Oh wait…

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Oct 25, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be like saying Bethancourt is blocked by McCann...

at the time, Andrus was so young, he wasn’t really “blocked” by anyone until at least another year or two of development, and a whole lot, as we have seen, can change in a couple years.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 26, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another backup SS ?

Why Nunez is nothing more than or any better than B. Hicks or Diory ?

Stop trading with the Yankees we already have their best farm system pitcher in Vizzy.

SS that could hit leadoff would be nice , but I am very happy with Gonzo next season. However after 2011 season SS is a position that is gonna need to be seriously addressed.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yankees...you mad?!

Go spend another 100 million on players and try again next year.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 22, 2010 11:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

LOL I am on Cloud NINE tonight

LOVE THAT THE YANKEES ARE DONE ! WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME true though be prepared for Crawford and Lee to be in NYC after the playoffs conclude, you cannot buy the WS anymore NEW YORK those years are over.

ABY
Anyone but tha Yankees !

Congrats Rangers fans you have waited a long time for this moment enjoy it.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about?

5 years 125 millions for Cliff Lee
6 years 160 millions for Carl Crawford
4 years 95 millions for Werth
2 years 25 millions for Jeter
use Swischer and Granderson as bench guys

by joshant on Oct 22, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 of those four are completely likely…

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Oct 23, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now all we need is for the Giants to bounce the Phillies and I’ll be happy.

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Oct 22, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling about that series.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 23, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

the way the umps have been doing their job

I would be too

Mathew 19:26 "With God, all things are possible"

by southman on Oct 23, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually the umping has been pretty decent in that series with the exception of that foul bunt being called fair, unless I’m missing something.

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Oct 23, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wren already said

Wren already said the infield is set for next year which most likely means the SS will be gonzalez

by cjones2010 on Oct 23, 2010 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

speaking of the evil empire,

Texas won the series with them to go to the world series :D

Mathew 19:26 "With God, all things are possible"

by southman on Oct 23, 2010 6:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe this has been suggested and shot down, but here goes anyhow

Any chance of Atlanta going after Lance Berkman? I’’m not sure what he’s being paid, but seems like he could be a great fit as a veteran presence behind Freeman next year. Just a thought…

BREAKING NEWS: ESPN has several sources reporting that the University of Alabama's 1st string waterboy will be declaring himself eligible in the 2011 NFL draft. He projects as WR with 4.29 speed and a vertical of 12....feet.

by WarEagle86 on Oct 23, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Berkman Could be an option

The Yankees have a club option on him for next year tho and i see the Braves going after someone cheaper like Ty Wiggington,Xavier Nady or possibly resigning Troy Glaus to see if he has some of the power he had for June would probably be the most ideal option

by cjones2010 on Oct 23, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read earlier this season about Hinske enjoying his role in helping younger players adjust and prepare. He might be a better choice than Glaus. Hinske understands his role, I hope we re-sign him.

Write your own recap!.....mvhsbball

by bighop on Oct 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Berkman can no longer hit RH, so a platoon would be unworkable with Freeman.
 
It isn’t going to happen.

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Oct 23, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN must be crapping their pants right now – no Yankees or Phillies in the World Series? But, but…they have STARS?!?!?!!?

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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