The 2010 Atlanta Braves Team Hitting MVP And LVP
by gondeee on Oct 13, 2010 12:57 PM EDT
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PrintNow that the Atlanta Braves season is over, it's time to look at which hitters had the biggest impact on the team and which ones were the biggest drag on the team. Today we'll tackle the top and bottom hitters, tomorrow the pitchers.
Hitting MVP
This is a tough one, because there are three really good candidates. Brian McCann was the MVP of last year's team (according to Talking Chop), and he had another good season this year. He is totally deserving of the team MVP, he continued to put up great offensive numbers, and added to his value behind the plate by posting a caught stealing percentage six points higher than his previous season high. The 30% CS mark was right at league average, and a definite improvement in a part of his game that needed the most improvement.
Martin Prado was a catalyst for much of the Braves offensive transformation this year, and he led the team's resurgence when he was moved to the leadoff spot in May. He stumbled at the end due to several nagging injuries, and a double-injury of a hip pointer and a torn oblique finally ended his season in the midst of the postseason chase of late September. He's clearly a choice that many Braves fans would chose for their MVP.
But this year Talking Chop will award the Braves team MVP to the kid, Jason Heyward. Heyward hit .272/.398/.505 up until his June 10th collision with Nate McLouth. From June 10th until he went on the disabled list on June 28th, Heyward hit .186/.238/.271. When he got back from the DL, Heyward once again went on a tear, hitting .302/.419/.457. Take away the time when he was playing injured and Heyward had one heck of a rookie season, and was clearly the most important hitter in the Braves lineup. Yes, he faded a bit at the end, but every hitter in the Braves lineup faded at the end.
He is truly the bright light in the Braves future, and to think that he's already their most valuable player in his first Major League season is even more remarkable. With a year of experience under his belt, he should be one of the most dangerous hitters in the National League next year ... as a 21-year old.
The LVP after the jump...
Hitting LVP
Like the hitting MVP, there are three really good (or bad) candidates for this award. When the Braves acquired Melky Cabrera I remarked that the team had just re-acquired Jeff Francoeur, only not quite as good, and boy was I right. Frenchy posted a slash line this year of .249/.300/.383 (bolstered only by the friendly confines of The Ballpark at Arlington), and Melky posted a slash line of .255/.317/.354 -- Melk had more patience, but not as much power ... how exciting! He was terrible. I count the days until his unconditional release.
Matt Diaz really only has value against left-handed pitching, and in 2010 he once again did pretty well against them (.830 OPS), but he got into 68 games against right-handed pitching and stunk up the joint (.633 OPS), especially in games where he faced a right-handed starting pitcher (.577). Like Melky, Diaz will hopefully be non-tendered at the end of the year. He's a fun guy to watch, if only for his completely unorthodox style of hitting, but we've seen enough of him and it's time to move away from the left field platoon of terror.
Two good candidates -- and really we could also select the Yunel / Gonzalez combo as another LVP -- but Nate McLouth wins this dubious honor. Nate hit below .200 for the season. He was pitiful beyond the pale, and only saved from utter humiliation by a return to some type of career norm in September, after spending the better part of two months in the Minor Leagues, all the while sucking up valuable salary space. Add to his horrible hitting the fact that he caused the MVP of the team, Jason Heyward, to miss several weeks and suffer a decline in production because of an injury caused by a collision where it looked like McLouth wasn't calling for the ball as he should have been.
Odds are McLouth will be around next year because his contract is guaranteed and highly untradeable, so the only glimmer of hope for our LVP is that he did manage to post an .887 OPS in September and October once he was recalled from the minors. Whether McLouth can post those kinds of numbers in 2011 will go a long way towards determining if the Braves will be successful next year.
Pitching MVP and LVP coming up tomorrow.
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I'm for keeping Diaz....
….just not as a platoon guy or starter. He can still mash lefties. Not sure how much he’s gonna cost though….
Yeah, if McLouth can continue his success since being recalled that would be huge for this team. Same goes for Derek Lowe, who was just phenomenal down the stretch.
Diaz was great in July….except for that… he sucked.
by Braves Biceps on Oct 13, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
Diaz can be good if he gets regular playing time… His injury kept him out of his rhythm. Remember how he raked in ‘09 when he was getting lots of playing time? I support Diaz… but it could just be because I’m such a fan
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Its ok to support Diaz
but also recognize his limitations. I think Bobby did a good job of extracting the max value out of him, but I think he would be over-exposed if he played full time. When he is successful, his BABIP is ludicrously high, like .360+ range. But he doesn’t really have the tools to sustain that.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 13, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I am a Diaz fan also but
It’s time for him to go, no more horrible platoons in LF please. It’s really dragged on this team for too long . It’s time for an everyday regular in LF. Thank you.
by traderchris on Oct 13, 2010 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This. 10 years of unproductive platooning at a position that’s really easy to fill with a solid regular has been one of the most disappointing aspects of this team for a long while.
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couldnt agree more
it would be nice to have a steady everyday LF in the lineup and producing. the platoon was the biggest reason the mid to bottom of the order was so unproductive the last couple years.
I suppose
Me being such a fan makes me overlook his limitations… Here’s to hoping he does well in KC with Frenchy lol
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by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And with 2 OF spots being a mess
It wasn’t even necessarily cost effective either.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 14, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering it was mostly Diaz and Cabrera, and they combined to make 5.65 million dollars, it really wasn’t.
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Throw McLouth in there
and it was really cost ineffective.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 14, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Martin!
I pick Prado as the offensive MVP. He was consistently great all year until September, but just about every hitter on the team was bad in September.
By some reason
do you mean Bobby actually had no options that were better? Because you will note that the 3 LVP candidates were he other 3 OFers not named Heyward.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 13, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Melky for LVP
There doesn’t appear to be a poll for hitting LVP. I’d vote for Melky. McLouth at least had the good sense to get injured and be sent to the minors, but Melky kept sucking along all year yet for some reason Bobby kept playing him.
By some reason do you mean Bobby actually had no options that were better? Because you will note that the 3 LVP candidates were he other 3 OFers not named Heyward.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 13, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Can Prado be co-MVP?
Also, I’m surprised Infante wasn’t at least mentioned.
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
Because
as good as Infante was, he was nowhere near as good as the other 3, or Chipper.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 13, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Because
outside of June and July he sucked?
by drumzalicious on Oct 13, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Outside of May through August would be more accurate, but I wouldn’t say he “sucked”.
April: .273 avg. .314 OBP
May: .317 avg. .343 OBP
June: .306 avg. .343 OBP
July: .429 avg. .455 OBP
August: .344 avg. .383 OBP
Sept/Oct: .264 avg. .313 OBP
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
by TonyAlmeyda on Oct 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure it’ll be KK, despite the fact he doesn’t deserve that.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
How about Chavez? I think he did the most damage in the fewest innings.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because I'm bored, 2010 Braves with an OPS over .800
Brian McCann: .828
Jason Heyward: .849
Martin Prado: .809
Chipper Jones: .806
Brooks Conrad: .811
David Ross: .871
Derrek Lee: .849
HM: Eric Hinske: .793
I’d like to see the Braves work with Ross at 1B in the offseason to give Freeman a rest when needed. Not talking a full-on platoon partner, just getting Ross some more AB’s, particularly against lefties.
Ross HAS to either learn some 1B or get traded. We don’t need a guy with an OPS over .800 getting one start per week.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
…he led the Braves in SLG and OPS this year, while finishing 2nd in OBP.
Last year he was 2nd only to LaRoche in OPS. Small sample size, sure. But when it happens two years in a row, you have to at least entertain the idea of finding a way to get him some more PA’s.
by Undocorkscrew on Oct 13, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston would probably give us whatever we want for Ross.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure what I want from boston that they would realistically give..
by Braves Biceps on Oct 13, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jed Lowrie?
"It's going to be strange watching There's Something About Mary again, knowing Brett Favre was the biggest stalker of them all"
He's made of glass....
If he weren’t so injury prone, he would be a good player.
Would be nice to snag Ellsbury — though I’m sure Ross for Ellsbury straight up won’t happen. Perhaps a prospect or two to sweeten the deal, and then we have an every day CF/leadoff guy with speed.
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace
Ross couldn't be the centerpiece
of a deal for Ellsbury. That’s delusional talk. Even with Ellsbury’s injuries.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 13, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ellsbury, maybe with some cash or prospects thrown in. Then we use one of our young arms for a LFer trade (maybe Kemp?) and just sign a decent defensive catcher in FA.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston would never go for that...
….for any backup catcher. Yes, Ross could start for most clubs…….but Ellsbury as well as cash and/or prospects?
They won’t sell so low on Ellsbury. They’ll want him to prove to be healthy and productive before they entertain the idea of trading him, most likely.
Braves need to keep Ross around. If McCann goes down, we’d be f_cked without him. They just need to try and utilize him a bit more.
by Undocorkscrew on Oct 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it depends on how much they want Crawford. If they get him, Ellsbury becomes expendable, and they desperately need a catcher. VMart is a FA and even if they resign him, they don’t like him at catcher and their only other options are Varitek and Salty.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Gardner, for what it's worth....
…and if the Yankees sign Crawford or Werth, he may be available.
Not that Ross would be a factor, just changing the subject a bit here.
by Undocorkscrew on Oct 13, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I thought of that, but the Yanks really have no need of another catcher.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not talking about trading a catcher for him....
Ross isn’t going to bring in much, regardless of which team he’s traded to.
by Undocorkscrew on Oct 13, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, they already have Youk at first. Where else you going to put him? Yeah, they could move Youk to third, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they signed Beltre to a longer-term deal.
by dunnytwogloves on Oct 14, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
or… we should get another catcher on our roster. get rid of the 7th bullpen spot?
by Braves Biceps on Oct 13, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, the argument could be made that if he played more he wouldn’t have that .800 OPS. Some guys are bench players. They do well in limited playing time but the holes in their game get exposed when they get extended playing time. There’s no guarantee Ross would be as effective if he played more. In fact, his career numbers suggest he wouldn’t be.
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How much value does a backup catcher really have?
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well our backup catcher has more value than most…but your point is still very valid
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This makes me think about signing Brandon Inge...
could play 1st with Freeman, 3rd for Chipper, or also take LF. Right handed bat, decent power, and if he’s on the bench, then Ross can be used at 1B or as a pinch hitter since he can catch.
I'd rather sign Coner Jackson
He’s a good RH bat, can play 1B, 3B and OF and probably wouldn’t cost as much as Inge.
That experience at third isn’t much though. 6 games in AA in 04, 2 games in the Majors in 07. Kind of a stretch to say he could fill in there.
Also, if you’re comparing Inge and Jackson, Inge might just be worth the extra money. In the last 2 seasons Jackson has combined to hit .218 with a .616 OPS, while playing in only 90 games. Over that same span, Inge has hit .238 with a .719 OPS, while playing in 305 games, including a league high 161 in 2009. Granted, that production out of Inge isn’t a huge increase, and considering he’ll be 34 he could regress, but it’s also worth noting he was doing his work in Detroit, a pitcher’s park, while Jackson was in Arizona, a hitter’s park. Inge did play nothing but third base the last 2 seasons, but he did play 60 games at catcher and 13 games in the outfield in 2008.
Personally, I think either would be a good choice to come off the bench for the Braves in 2011, but Inge would be a better one, because his track record is much better, even if he costs a little more.
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Yes. Very true. So, specifically, for those who don’t understand, how much trade value does a 31 year old backup catcher really have?
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I'd say not much...
if Ross was as desired as Braves fans’ think of him, I doubt he’d have been willing to resign here instead of seeking starter’s money as a free agent this winter. Not that he isn’t a good player, very valuable and would be wanted by most teams, but if they’d be willing to part with a good package of prospects for him, then they’d also be willing to pay a lot more than we resigned him for.
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 14, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He could have gotten much more...
I think. But if he’s happy here, playing a reduced role and doing solid in his spots, so why should he go for greener grass??
I think there’s something to be said for us lucking into finding a guy content to fill his role in an exceptional capacity, finding the right situation for himself and his family (I’ll assume, dunno anything about his personal life), and playing the game he loves, being a good clubhouse guy, just doing all the things he needs to do to be a great teammate and contributor.
His situation is rare because we’re constantly being bombarded by “more money, more playing time, more fame,” players. But honest, hard-working role players exist, and we’re lucky to have one of the best role players in the league right now.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
this this this
ROSS NEEDS MORE AB’s!!!
Maybe Fredi will be less reluctant to use him in late inning PH situations than Bobby was
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny how the article names Heyward as the MVP, but the voting supports Prado : )
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Trade Nate or KK for Fukudome?
I would support that trade, Fukudome would be a decent 4th OF. Also, I think we could, and probably will, non-tender Diaz and resign him at a lower amount.
He'll be making $13.5 million next year...
And Kawakami and McLouth’s contract’s combined are about the same for next year. Wouldn’t be a bad fit, actually.
Fukudome had a pretty solid year.
by Undocorkscrew on Oct 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got to go Melky on the LVP. McLouth was equally bad but the volume of shitiness produced by Melky trumps.
509 PA’s of .671 OPS. Check
.098 ISO Check
-15.9 UZR Check
-1.2 WAR Check
Ugly, f’ing ugly
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So basically MilkDUD should've paid the Braves for allowing him to play.
Melky is in horrible shape. He needs to get it together during the winter. W/ his arm defense should be at least average or him, or even a plus. Sure don’t see his bat helping him stick around.
Heyward
Heyward had too many stretches (some aided by injury I know) where he just didn’t produce at all, including the playoff series. He needs to be more consistent in my opinion.
he's a rookie
needs time to adjust… once he does he’s gonna be a pretty decent #3 hitter imo
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by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no one debates that but if the argument is who was the best hitter this season…i think the answer is McCann…he played the most consistently and had a great year…he also was good behind the plate…int eh future hewyard will be better, presumably, but this year I think Mac is the answer, but thats just me.
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Heyward hit .272/.398/.505 up until his June 10th collision with Nate McLouth. From June 10th until he went on the disabled list on June 28th, Heyward hit .186/.238/.271. When he got back from the DL, Heyward once again went on a tear, hitting .302/.419/.457.
Hmmm.
He went on the DL because of the thumb. But I’m wondering, did the collision effect his performance at the plate?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
He strained his thumbs after winking to the bench and giving them the thumbs up after his “accidental” collision.
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Oct 14, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Need some help here....
On McCann’s baseball-reference page it says this under his’ 2012 Salary’…
‘2012 becomes club option if player fails to win specified awards 2007-2011’
Which awards?
An Emmy
OH WAIT GOT THAT!
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From Cot’s Contracts:
- McCann may earn additional $3M in 2012 based on Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers & All-Star selections in 2007-11
- 2012 becomes club option if McCann fails to win specified awards 2007-2011
Either way, unless he has a career-ending injury, the Braves will keep him.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I feel like this is the first I’ve heard of Heyward being affected as a result of that collision. I thought he hurt his thumb sliding into second? Nate was bad enough at the plate, doesn’t need more blame for stuff forced on him than he already deserves.
Same here. But now that I think about it, it makes perfect sense.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
When he was placed on the DL....
….it seemed like every article I read switched back and forth on the reason. One article would say his wrist won’t be fully healed until the offseason. Next article said his thumb wouldn’t fully heal until the offseason, with most of these not even mentioning the thumb.
The thumb injury has been confirmed, but was there ever anything wrong with his wrist?
by Undocorkscrew on Oct 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
There could have been. Replaying the video of the collision in my mind, it’s possible.
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by MBL1 on Oct 13, 2010 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s like he ran into McLouth so hard that Nate’s suckiness entered into his body through osmosis.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
by pchaucer on Oct 13, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's Prado
if he wasn’t hurt as much this year, we would have reached the ws already (I’m not blaming him)
Mathew 19:26 "With God, all things are possible"
That would be impressive considering the NLCS hasn’t even started yet.
by king of games on Oct 13, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't ever question Prado's ability
to control the flow of time.
by Creek Johnson on Oct 13, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Melky taking ABs away from Nate in Spring Training is what led to Nate’s miserable 2010. Melky is clearly out LVPlayer, especially when taking into account the god-awful defense
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That's a stretch at best.
I fail to the see the correlation between a handful of ABs in March to full on suckage for the first four months of the year, especially since McLouth has sucked ever since he came over from the Pirates. In other words, Nate’s suckage is no recent development thus can not be attributed to Melky “stealing” ABs from Nate in Spring Training.
by DogDaysofSummer on Oct 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
McLouth
I understand why McLouth is the LVP (though I might give it to Melky) but I have a fair amout of hope for him next year. His .263/.358/.509/.867 line since coming back from that mental AAA break and working with Chipper on his swing is very encouraging. It is a small sample size but it wasn’t BABIP induced as he even had an ‘unlucky’ .261 BABIP in that span.
Once he gets used to playing LF and if he keeps working on his swing with chipper an .867 OPS with defensive value in LF would really be a boon in to our offense without making a single trade.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
MVP:
1. McCann
2. Heyward
3. Prado (probably better if he didn’t get hurt.)
4. Infante
According to some baseless statistic.....
….Troy Glaus was the slowest running position player in 2010. Slower than Bengie Molina, Pablo Strandem’all, Prince Fielder, Lance Berkman, and Brian McCann.
Kind of surprised by that, actually.
Prince Fielder is actually pretty fast…don’t you remember his inside the park HR… and McCann continually steals abses and doesnt get thrown out… SPEED FTW
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Being a big body doesn't = slow.
It just means they might lack the initial acceleration but once they get going their mass can equal high speed.
"Give him the heater Ricky."
Sorry Gondeee...
but I have to disagree 100% here.
Martin Prado is the MVP and Melky is the LVP.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
this
I cringed when our final AB came down to Melky… The fact that he made the final out was a perfect metaphor for the value he has on this team… Melky must go
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If only Fontenot didn't
GET TO DA CHOPPAH!
by Creek Johnson on Oct 13, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That was my favorite part.
When it became obvious that he was going to be our final out, I was praying for a CHOPPAH. Just for my own amusement.
When do we lock-up Heyward long-term?
Morgan: Do you think I could come into the clubhouse after the game and display my ass for both those veterans and the younger guys?
Baker: Well, Joe, you are on the payroll of the team, and you're a legend, so I suppose — holy shit!
[Joe has appeared next to Dusty, in the dugout, completely naked]
Morgan: Hey.
As good as he was this year
I feel like we need to wait one more year to make sure he’ll hold up over 162 games.
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by Scott Coleman on Oct 13, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
but then lock him up, pray he goes for a McCann-like rate.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 13, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
he’ll sign long-term for reasonable… He’s a humble guy, loves ATL and is just happy to be playing baseball… I’m think an Evan Longoria/David Wright-type deal is in his future
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody seems humble until negotiations start.
That’s one thing I’ve learned about athletes. Most of ’em anyway. Just saying, you never know.
by Creek Johnson on Oct 13, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hwo do you know all that about Heyward…if you say based on interviews…every single player seems like that (except for a handful of guys like Milton Bradley)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
I don't know...
Suppose i’m just hoping for a “i love atl so i’ll take a hometown discount” type story
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by HansonManCrush on Oct 13, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope he's this generation's Chipper Jones.
"Give him the heater Ricky."
I'd like...
McCann’s contract look like a short-term deal compared to Heyward’s…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Depends on what he'll take
waiting until he has a huge year next season (if he does), could cost a LOT more.
Can someone explain why Infante isnt in the conversation?
He stepped in anywhere we needed him, and he came to play every day. He was way out of the running for the batting title, but magically started to shake up the conversation late. He seemed to put this team on his back some days, and was definately our most consistant hitter, other than Prado.
While im not saying he definately deserves to win it, i think he should at least be in the conversation.
Since when has a “Utility Player” made this big of an impact, especially when his team needed him to the most.
1) Prado
2) Infante
3) Mac
4) J-Hey
5) Hinske at times.
I don't know shit about baseball.
I was going to ask the same question. Infante, you know, the All-Star, the guy that had the 3rd highest batting average. I would like to see how his numbers compared to the other guys near the top of this blog. I think the MVP of 2010 is probably the “Braves”, from the clubhouse comradery, to the guttiness (even a word?) of the comeback wins, to the fun they seemed to be having most of the season, made it a great year to watch, even if they didn’t play their best at the end. Just makes me more ready for 2011 to get here!
Batting Runs Above Average
Heyward 28.5
McCann 19.2
Prado 17.4
………………..
Melky -10.1
That’s what I based it on anyway.
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by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Oct 13, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
TC doesnt do a Fielder MVP…so when Gondee says Hitting MVP i take that as a position player, so i include defense….which leaves you with the exact same results…but just wanted to mention that…I end up taking McCann despite the evidence, bc he was more consistent and plays a tougher position, and defense at C can’t really be quantified, although he isnt a great defensive C.
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all the way. if not for his constant and consistent production throughout the year we would have been an 80-85 win team and missed the playoffs entirely.
Gondee I love ya and I love this site but JHey has some work to do before he is MVP.
Hell he probably is going to lose ROY to Posey as much as i hate to even think that
Infante next year
Infante should probably start full time next year some place in the field. If we don’t get a decent outfielder in free agency and Chipper is ready to go, Omar may be our starting left fielder.
Another one?
Can somebody else help me nip this Infante starter thing before it grows too much. It’s the same as the Diaz for leadoff hitter thing from last year.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 14, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I say Prado
If it werent for him hitting at the top of our lineup we would have gotten no where near the post-season
Braves roster had a lot of good options for hitting MVP this season
When you consider Prado, Heyward and B-Mac. Overall, it felt like Prado was the MVP of the team the way he hit on the year as a whole.
no one said Mr. Brooks "Clutch" Conrad
he of the multiple game-winning homers!!!
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You cannot forget he bad about him though
by Taylor Masters on Oct 13, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
what...
that he is bald…?
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by Hektor DiPaula on Oct 14, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
melky is by far the hitting LVP for me. If I didn’t just compare their respective pitches per plate appearance, I would not have believed that melky is more patient than frenchy. He’s the king of the first pitch out. His defense is atrocious and he should be out of the league next year. He makes me so mad I want to punch him in the face.
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Prado is the MVP
and in regard to the LVP……Melky sucks, but… Melky >>>>> McOut
I can count on one hand how many hits Nate had for the whole year.
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Oct 14, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
MVP / HITTING
Seriously ? How can you overlook the only choice we had this year ? This game is about pitching and hitting. Prado was the only consistent force at the plate. He also provided us a steadying defense ( and we all saw how important that is ). Looking at the votes here, once again, you should be embarrassed !!!
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