Brooks Conrad
by Sir Veza on Oct 10, 2010 11:05 PM EDT
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Stop hating on the man. He's only human.
Yes, he should have caught the ball. Yes, he should be able to get a bunt down. But it isn't like we are paying him $15million/year. He's human. He makes mistakes. Life goes on.
We've done the city proud by making the playoffs with our rag-tag roster. Lets embrace it. Sure, it sucks we lost a game we should have won. Then again, if not for Hinske's heroics, we would've lost anyway.
Lets go get'em tomorrow!
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I support you… sir…you are indeed correct.
Obviously Conrad needs to make that play if he is in the game, its an easy play and all 2B should be able to make it (this goes for any of the plays he missed)…but it’s incumbent upon Bobby to put our best players in the best position to succeed and he didnt do that with the defense or with the bullpen.
There are a lot of reasons why we lost game 3, but first on my list is Bobby’s managing of the late innings. Now i don’t hate Bobby, because without him, we probably aren’t even in the playoffs and it was his call to pinch hit for Ankiel with Hinske who hit the go ahead HR, so we don’t think I’m out to get Bobby.
the good news is there is still a tomorrow. We will most likely be facing Bumgarner and we have a shot to tie the series up and go to SF and win game 5…it won’t be easy but it should be fun and interesting.
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One thing...
Hinske didn’t pinch hit for Ankiel, there was Glaus in between them. He was to face Sanchez until Bochy switched to a righty.
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 11, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Tonight
Talking Chop comments were worse than Conrad’s errors. He’s a utility player, extended play will show why he’s not a starter. Same as Infante. Give the guy a break, I thought this was a site with knowledgable baseball fans, tonight it was not. It was a lynch mob, going after a guy we liked 3 weeks ago. Pitiful in my opinion.
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and from what I saw
some of the worst ones were from non-regulars.
I haven’t been here that long but consider myself a “regular”. I think it’s incumbent on us to keep the blog sane. When newbies come in just posting trash it makes us all look bad. I mean, who are we, TGP?
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 11, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well put
Everyone on the internet is a tough guy it appears. No way they say some of that vile to Brooks face.
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I would agree with you can could live with his errors if he was hitting, but he isn’t. Therefor his errors are that more noticeable and makes it more obvious that he isn’t a major league player. At best he’s the 25th guy on the roster on about half the leagues teams. The other half he’s at AAA.
Nobody's hitting
Conrad looks like he is going thru a time of horrible lack of confidence. He may never recover. It reminds me of Ankiel as a pitcher. Conrad is much older, he doesn’t have the time Ankiel had to rebound.
25th guy…absolutely, he WAS the 25th guy out of spring training. He should be subbing in, giving players a day off or pinch hitting. Playing every inning of every game with a head spinning from making errors over and over, people should give the poor bastard a break. That was hands down the loudest booing I’ve ever heard a home team give one of it’s players. It made me sick.
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by bighop on Oct 10, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with you
but that doesn’t mean wish death/injury/[insert malicious action here] on him.
I’m not saying reward the guy for trying his best. I’m saying he shouldn’t have even been in the game in the 9th inning. Clearly he wasn’t kept in for his batting since we weren’t supposed to get another at-bat.
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if not for Hinske's heroics, we would've lost anyway?
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Brooks is a professional baseball player for fucks sake and he couldnt make 3 routine plays. Give Glaus a chance at 3B. He’s definitely not more of a “defensive liability.” Learn how to put together a damn team, Cox.
We took the lead going into the ninth inning and should be up 2-1 in the series. This game costs us the series. Winning tomorrow and then going back to SF and beating lincecum is not going to be accomplished. Not with our shaky defense. The only assuring thing is knowing that the winner of this series will get destroyed in the NLCS. A great 2010 season with a completely shitty ending.
Winning tomorrow and then going back to SF and beating lincecum is not going to be accomplished.
Do you happen to have a DeLorean time machine that you took into the future to see the end result of this series? No? Didn’t think so.
The Braves aren’t dead yet, so I’d appreciate it if you didn’t write them off so quickly.
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by TonyAlmeyda on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You couldn't be more wrong
The guy is being payed 1 million dollars a year to hit the ball and field it..he better be damn good at that task. He’s making 5X’s the money of doctors to do a task that is far from impossible and yet he FAILS
It isn’t even like he failed once, he’s failed numerous times. It’s not Bobby’s fault, it’s Conrad’s fault, any MLB player(high school, college etc…) should be able to make that play, I sure hell could have made the final play(I couldn’t make the pop-up but any MLB player can)
He can’t hit, he can’t field, he can’t even get a bunt down…thus if he sarts tommorow I personally REFUSE to watch the game
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The guy is being payed 1 million dollars a year
440 thousand, but I guess it’s almost a million…
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Yes, he is a pro ballplayer, but I don’t envy the guy for having to play in front of thousands of rabid fans when he simply isn’t a very good defender and shouldn’t even be a starter, which isn’t his fault.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
So since defense isn't a valid answer...
why doesn’t Glaus start?
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 11, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have an answer for the conundrum Bobby is in. I mean, the choices are Glaus, Conrad, and Diory. None of them inspire confidence. As far as I am concerned, whatever Bobby decides will have been the best possible choice.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
And by none inspire confidence
That’s on both sides of the ball. Glaus’ legs are shot, Conrad is whatever he is, and Diory is at best all glove (and his glove isn’t really that great). It’s the post-season. This is the toughest competition in the bigs, especially with the Giants pitching. Hell if I know the answer.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Hernandez has hit well every step of the way up...
so he is not “all glove” imo. And Glaus can at least slug and get on base. Glaus makes the most sense, and has since Conrad forgot how to field.
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 11, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
every step
until this one. That’s not uncommon, its why the term AAA was termed. And I know, SSS, but is that something to test here in the post-season? I’m asking because I don’t know.
I don’t disagree on Glaus, but the question is can he still slug and get on base. I don’t know the answer. And if he can, can he make the throw from 3rd to first. I know, we are saying defense will be bad no matter what… Again, a lot of tough choices and no good solutions. I don’t envy Bobby one bit making this decision.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
More to the point about Glaus.
Can he even run if he does get on base? Hell, can he even make to first?
I don’t know the answers to these questions, either. But we don’t see him starting, so I reckon Bobby knows something about it. As a late substitution he is probably more viable.
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I think he can make it to 1b, but it may take a crushing hit to get a double out of him. I think he would be more valuable in a sub role if the Braves felt they had a better option. Not sure that they do.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
$444,000 isn’t quite a million
But still it’s more than many doctors get….he’s payed to field/hit the ball and he can only do 1 of those things, shame on him
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What do doctors have to do with anything? The guy can’t help that our society has screwed up values. He gets paid like 12 times what most teachers get paid, that personally offends me more, but it has nothing to with this in any way. He’s paid to play baseball, which he does better than lots of other guys who play it, which is why he is where he is. Shame on him…that’s just ridiculous.
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by cbwilk on Oct 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And
considering how much money gets moved through the baseball industry, Conrad is making a trifle amount of money, which is crazy, but true. Just look how much money the Marlins ownership made. Or how much the Yankees ownership made despite their outrageous payroll AND paying a luxury tax to the small market teams. Brooks Conrad is just the unlucky guy who screwed up so he is under a magnifying glass.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He should be better at his JOB
If a “teachers” students are failing because of the teacher, the teacher is then fired… Brooks isn’t doing his job, which is to play baseball pro
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You apparently don’t know much about the deplorable state of the US education system. The nature of tenure makes your point almost entirely invalid.
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*sigh*
K-12 education = poor
Upper level education = best in the world.
Lets not lump them all together plz.
kthxbai
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His is great at his job.
He is a utility guy who is mostly a pinch-hitter. He was a career minor leaguer because he wasn’t good enough to be a major league regular. He busts his ass out there and is a gamer, he just doesn’t have the talent of a major league regular. That’s just what it is. He shouldn’t be starting. Take our normal infield. Someone gets hurt and the super utility guy (Infante) steps in. When two guys get hurt, that’s a uh-oh, and we have to start someone who shouldn’t be starting. The problem is and was the injuries, there just really isn’t anything we can do about that at this point.
I really hope Brooks
gets to PH for Lowe and hits a Grand Slam.
Brooks loves the haters!*
*I was one to poke fun of Brooks when he didn’t get the bunt down. I’m all for a good ribbing but people took it too far last night.
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Wait, let me get this straight. Bobby knows Conrad has tendency to make errors. Diory Hernandez is a better fielder than Conrad. Bobby chooses to let Conrad stay in the game with a 1-run lead and somehow it isn’t Bobby’s fault?
I’ve already admitted Conrad should have made the play. The thing is, he shouldn’t have had the opportunity to make it to begin with.
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Really dude? You’re proposing that it’s easy to field a ball moving at 100+ miles an hr in front of 40,000 screaming fans under the scrutiny of a national broadcast?
“he better be damn good at that task.”
Have you considered the fact that he is “damn good at that task”? That professional ball players represent the top .01 percent of all ball players high school and beyond? Hitting a professional pitcher is one of THE most difficult things to do in ALL of professional sports. If Brooks Conrad was on the adult softball league at your local sports complex, he’d be a demi god.
Not trying to argue that professional ball players aren’t overpaid, but the doctor analogy is ridiculous. You can’t just take his salaray completely out of context. The guy gets paid 10% of what an average major leaguer makes. If you met a doctor who only got paid 10% of what every other doctor got paid, you can most likely expect him to miss diagnose a sniffly nose every once in awhile.
Trust me, I’m as upset as anyone about today. But it’s more upsetting to see such animosity for the guy. To be frank, without Brooks Conrad, we most likely wouldn’t be in the postseason to begin with. Every ball players going to have a lousy game every once in a while. It’s just a damn shame that it had to be today.
I agree with most of your post
However, Brooks hasn’t had one bad game. He’s had several. That being said, let Hernandez start (because Glaus is an equally bad choice on D). It should never have been on Brooks to make that play.
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For someone who gets paid to do that…yes. It is easy to field a routine ground ball.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
…thus if he sarts tommorow I personally REFUSE to watch the game
Gee, what a huge loss for Conrad and the Atlanta Braves. Also, spell-check can be your friend.
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We would have lost the game 1-0 due to Conrad’s missed pop up. Conrad is human and so are the fans. That’s why we’re lashing out as we watch our season go up in smoke due to one player’s inability to make routine plays. heck Bobby Cox is human for ignoring the previous blunders and continuing to play Conrad. I actually feel bad for him as nobody should have to go through being the rotten apple on his team but all the encouragement and positive attitudes cannot and will not bring back the 2 games lost due to his errors and the heartbreak the fans and city of Atlanta felt after the game.
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Didn’t the season pretty much go “up in smoke” when Medlen, Chipper, Prado, Jurrjens, EOF and Wagner were injured? Granted, we could still beat the Giants, but I don’t think too many teams in MLB history have even made the playoffs with this many major personnel losses.
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It should be noted that Heyward should have called Conrad off on that pop up. With a runner on 3rd, there’s no chance Conrad throws that runner out with his back to home plate and his momentum taking him away. It’s always easier for an outfielder to come in, then an infielder to go out. If Heyward takes charge on that play not only is the ball caught with relative ease, but the runner is held at 3rd base. Even if Conrad made that play, the run still would have scored.
Meh
Heyward was probably still shaken up from the play before which is why he didn’t take charge. Can’t blame him (Heyward) for that.
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My problem with this is, he cost them a game on a ball that he didn’t have to move on. Im not wishing anything on him for the reasons mentioned, but he single handedly cost them the game. The ball in the outfield wasn’t his by no means, Im not sure I put that one on him. But in the 9th inning of a playoff game you can’t stay down on a ball hit right at you, is embarrassing. It takes absolutely no talent, no extra effort to take a ball like that off the chest. This is not Bobby’s fault, its only Conrads. Obviously he wouldn’t have been out there if it were not for injuries, but this would not have been a great play, he would not have had to do anything special. He made a lackluster play in a huge situation, and it may have cost the Braves the series. Don’t wish anything bad on the guy, but don’t make excuses for him.
It’s Bobby’s fault.
Do you agree or disagree that Hernandez is a better fielder?
Do you agree or disagree that Conrad shouldn’t have even been in the position to mess that up, with us being up only 1 run?
If the answer to those is “yes”, the blame is on Bobby.
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Dude,
It’s not like Hernandez is a stellar fielder. As far as taking Kimbrel out, while he may have gotten the last out, there is no reason for any of us to act like he was lights out last night. The kid was all over the place. I’m sorry, I’m upset too! But I just really can’t put this one on Bobby.
I don’t believe in using my entire bench up in a one run game. It could have been a solo home run, something Conrad would have had nothing to do with, and we would have been out of position players. Diory might be a better fielder, and Im sure if Bobby knew Conrad would have botched that play, he would have taken him out, but he had no way of knowing. I might have tried Glaus at third to start the game, but I think Conrad would have found his way into the game by the end. Bobby didn’t make any errors, wasn’t wild on the mound. He put them in good position to win, he did his job.
No way of knowing?
As if the other 7 errors weren’t enough notice? C’mon guys….
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Blame can spread...
Heyward dropped the “triple”, as it did hit his glove. Conrad had multiple errors, bad ones. So he can take a large portion of the blame. Then there is Bobby for his decisions in the 9th (keeping Conrad at 2nd, pulling Kimbrel).
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 11, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hate it for the guy.
Truth is, he has been clutch most of the year. That doesn’t change the fact that he has really hurt us lately. I was one of those people that wasn’t happy with him yesterday on TC. Honestly, If your choice is between Conrad and Hernandez, you already have a big enough problem! That said, this team has shown a lot to get where they are. I hate for Bobby to go out on such a sour note, but that’s baseball! I don’t know any amount of managing that can overcome a lot of this stuff! Let us not forget that we had an entirely new infield from opening day. The outfield is a mess, our best player is a rookie who looks like he is very tired(not dogging, I love Heyward!) They showed a stat last night that said Bobby was second all time in playoff wins behind Joe T. Wonder what Bobby could have done with Joe T’s lineups and payroll? Just sayin……….
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really really says exactly what I was thinking on the matter.
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by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
And
No, I don’t hate on Bobby Cox for his decision to leave him in. Cox’s management has always been good, and the results speak for themselves. But even he is prone to making mistakes. It’s easy to bash the guy in 20/20 hindsight, but if Conrad makes the play nobody is talking about Bobby being the worst playoff manager of all time.
First off, that’s a load of shit. Blame him for his mistakes, fine. But also recognize that without him the Braves never make it to the postseason. Also recognize that the Braves made it deep into the post season many times because of Bobby.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Saying Bobby is the worst manager of all time, etc. etc. is dumb.
I blame Bobby for this one but think he’s been fantastic over the years. This wasn’t one of his better games.
I think he should get ejected tonight. We seem to score runs when he does that.
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I just think
Bobby knows how to get the most out of his players. One of the things that all of baseball praises him for is his ability to get the most out of every player. Should he have pulled Conrad for a better defender? Probably, but that’s not Bobby’s style. He always shows the utmost confidence in his players. Sometimes that works wonders, and Eric Hinske hits a home run or Nate McLouth makes a good play in the outfield. Sometimes it also means that Gregg Norton strikes out again, or Brooks Conrad makes another error. When it works, Bobby gets no love. When it fails Bobby gets destroyed. But he’s the guy that any player wants to play for. He’s one of the best managers of all time. That’s just the way it goes.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
per fangraphs (WARNING: ouch)
“Conrad’s total defensive WPA in this game comes in at a staggering -.635. That number, combined with his -.116 batting total, comes out to a total WPA of -.751. Brooks Conrad cost the Braves 75% of a postseason victory, one which would have put them one victory away from the next round of the playoffs. Conrad’s play tonight, particularly if the Braves don’t come back to win this series, will go down as one of the worst playoff performances of all time.”
My two sense...
From the beginning of the Playoffs I thought Conrad shouldn’t play the field. I don’t see why Bobby didn’t put in a defensive replacement for the 9th. Game 2 He did put Glaus in at 3rd moving Infante to 2nd.
I don’t blame Bobby, Kimbrel was wild before he got taking out and the ball that Huff hit off of Dunn was low and away slider ,9/10 times the Lefty swings over the top of that or hits a weakly ground ball. No clue how he pulled that and got just enough power on it.
Bobby was responsible for taking Glaus out and putting in Hinske to face Romo and we all know what happened. We wouldn’t of had the lead if it wasn’t for this.
Obviously people would do things different if they were the Manager but we are watching the games from the seats or the TV. Bobby does have the 4th most wins all-time so I think he somewhat knows what he’s doing. We still have hope even if it’s little. I have a feeling we put runs tonight off of Bumgarner. Don’t give up yet, it’s goin to Game 5
I've never been one to "blame" Bobby or Wren
The timing of Prado’s injury was as much bad luck as the injury itself. Retooling the 40 man roster at that point probably wouldn’t have helped the situation. But when Chipper went down for the season, I wish Wes Timmons and Matt Young had been added to the 40 man roster. Instead, they called up Diory and sent Glaus to AAA to try 3rd base after bringing in Lee. Timmons and Young would be nice options to have right now.
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Thank you Sir Veza
After last nights game i sure could use one (or 12) of you. But think of how Brooksie feels after that. The only name we can pin last nights loss on is the name on the front of the jersey. Sure his 3 errors and 0-3 certainly didn’t help, but its not exactly like the other 7 starting hitters in our lineup gave him or Huddy any help. Our offense in the first 6 innings of games this year has been anemic, and you cant expect to win against good starting pitching when you cant score against bad starting pitching.
But the blame tonight can’t be placed on Brooks. Quite frankly, had it not been for him and his 6 (i think) clutch late inning homeruns this year, we wouldn’t even be in this situation.
Question from a Giants fan
I heard somewhere that the dropped pop up might have been due to Heyward being groggy from the head-bang against the wall and not playing well. Any thoughts? It looked like a ball that should have been Heyward’s to me, especially with a runner at 3rd possibly tagging and the RF in better position to throw home.
I also thought it looked like Heyward got a poor jump on Huff’s single in the 9th.
(By the way, I’m not trolling or picking on Heyward; just wondering what you’re hearing.)
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I dont think there’s any doubt if tht ball was hit in a later inning Heyward probably gets to it…unfortunately inbaseball you can’t tkae a couple of plays off and I thnk that was just an unlucky occurrence…
I didnt see anything on the hit in the 9th that would lead me to beleive Heyward wasnt healthy…the throw was less than stellar but thats a tough play and you don’t really expect to get the guy at hom ethere, even with Heyward arm.
hope that answers the question for you. now let us whine in peace ;)
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Wasn't referring to Heyward's throw
I meant it looked like Huff’s ball might have hung up long enough so that Heyward might catch it if he gets a good jump on it. (I still need to go back and watch the replay.)
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i was there watching it live
but i thought so too. definitely should have called conrad off earlier, as well. don’t know if that was a consequence of the collision with the wall
Been mulling that pop-up over myself
I think that Heyward should have called Brooks off on that pop-up. He clearly was close enough, and even if Brooks made the catch, the run could score because his position with his back to the infield allows the runner to probably chance it. Heyward would have been in better position to make the throw. It seems odd that he wouldn’t call Conrad off.
JayHey was clearly pretty shaken up by that wall collision. I just hope he is 100% for tonight.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the weird thing...
On that pop up, Fontenot wasn’t tagging. They showed it on the replay and he was half way. Guess he was assuming Heyward was going to make the catch because, as you said, Conrad never would have had no chance to stop his momentum, spin and throw and get the runner at home had he made the catch.
Giants were REALLY lucky Conrad dropped it.
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It’s game 3 of the NLDS with 2 outs in the 9th inning. Your team is up by 1. You layout for that ball, period.
no you don’t…if he lays out and misses it we don’t have the out, there’s a guy on third and all the runners on base have scored…you dive for the ball if you can get it, but not for no reason…he clearly made the decision that he couldnt get to it (which was the right decision) and tried to throw the guy out at home.
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Agreed. Heyward played awful yesterday. On top of his offensive woes in the first 3 games, he should have made both defensive plays you’re referencing. If he does, the Brave win 2-0. But just like my argument with Conrad, without Heyward, the Braves aren’t even in the postseason. Just again a damn shame Heyward had to pick possibly the worst game of the year to do his Armando Rios impression (that’s for you Giants fan).
Which again
brings me back to that wall collision. These plays don’t sound like the JayHey we have seen this season, no? Hell, seeing how hard he hit that wall, him not laying out for that ball doesn’t sound like the JayHey from directly before he hit that wall.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The
ball hit in the 9th could have been caught, there is no doubt. I was about 9 rows back, a section down from the dugout and I was like,why isn’t Heyward moving. Ive played outfield and the one thing I noticed watching the replays on TV was that it was hit straight at him, the hardest ball to judge. If that ball were hit 6 feet to the left or right, Im sure he picks it up right away, but it just froze him. I won’t blame the game on him, but he hasn’t looked right thus far in the playoffs.
It's also more difficult
…when you hit your head on the wall earlier and have to decide which of the two balls you see to catch. :-)
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brooks
I still think brooks is capable of being a “okay” defender. earlier in the season hes defense wasnt this bad, he’s just let his head get to him. if he works out his mental issues i think he can still start for someone, or maybe dh in the american league. I still love you brooky!!!!
I think he is too
clearly this is a mental problem. A case of the yips if you will. Which makes me feel worse for him because I think he is better than that.
by Andy Braves Fan on Oct 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
What was the crowd’s mood when Conrad came up to bad last night? I hope he got more cheers than jeers.
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