Least Favorite Braves
by BravesFanScout on Sep 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT
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PrintWho are your LEAST favorite Braves? From the Past or Present name your top 5 least favorite Braves. Who are those players that you hate to see in the game or might even hate they are even a part of the team? Who are those players from the past the you love seeing on other teams because they can no longer hurt your own?
This is a list of my Least Favorite of this season
My Top 5 Least Favorite:
1.) Frenchy: It's great to see him free swinging on another team. It was great seeing him last week against the braves with 1 out, bases loaded, and swings at the first 3 pitches for a K. It's great to no longer have to watch that every season.
2.) Greg Norton: I don't know if this is his fault or bobby cox fault. Every time he comes in for a pinch hit at bat with runners on in a tight game you can count it up as a K. He has been awful this year and I'm not sure why he wasn't released.
3.) Mike Gonzalez: He has a nice looking ERA, but to many times this year he has come in with a one run lead in the 8th and given up a solo shot to tie the game. I remember earlier in the year we were playing the phillies, he came in and gave up back to back solo shots for the phillies to take a one run lead. Lucky for us we came back and won that game, but he is a disaster waiting to happen every time he comes in. I get annoyed with his rocking back and forth too. I think it is a reason why he can't locate his pitches.
4.) Jojo Reyes/ Many Acosta: This one was a tie. Jojo Reyes was terrible at the beginning of the year. If we had instead of him for those starts we might have a few more wins. Jojo Reyes was a definite lose every time you saw his name coming up in the rotation. Manny Acosta is a classic case of a pitcher who thinks he can throw his fastball by everyone. This is the majors and these guys can hit the heat so you have to try something else.
5.) Kelly Johnson: This is another case where it is more Bobby Cox fault than KJ's. He was in the lineup for too long. He was struggling and bobby kept putting him out there and he continued to struggle. He was terrible with runners on and hitting in key situations. He tries to pull the ball way to much and it often looks like he's trying to hit homeruns therefore he pops up a lot. He is just a consistently inconsistent player.
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They might frusturate me at times
But I don’t dislike any Braves players.
Frank Wren for GM of the Year.
"Wait, bait and bash." - Jason Heyward's personal philosophy.
by Scott Coleman on Sep 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That clawing of his face with his glove and other antics got old after awhile, especially after he balked in a winning run that one time.
"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."
Whatever.
I love John Rocker and I always will.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 23, 2009 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Blauser. And Greg McMichael.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Gasp!
I loved Jeff Blauser.
My least favorite current Brave (player-wise) would be Manny Acosta.
One of my least favorite former Braves was Kenny Lofton.
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 21, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to explain your love of Blauser. I personally can’t understand how anyone could love a guy who sucked every year except his two contract years which he pumped himself full of roids to get big contracts.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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I was about 12
And nobody really knew about the whole ‘roid issue and probably didn’t care all that much. Let me reiterate. I was 12. I liked Jeff Blauser. So sue me.
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
See, I demanded an explanation and you gave me a perfectly acceptable one. I still disagree, and I was 6-14 during his years with the Braves, but hey, we all see different stuff.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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No prob...
I just liked the guy. In the first game (or one of the first games) after he returned from an injury, I remember him having about 7 RBI in a game (maybe in Cincy?). I also thought he and Lemke turned a tight Vidro. When my friends and I would play ball and imagine ourselves as Braves, I would always be Blauser.
Plus on the original Ken Griffey Jr. Basball game on the SNES, he had great numbers and was a gooood hitter.
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 23, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
In no particular order:
1. Gary Sheffield in October. ( 9 games, .100 ( 3-30), 1 HR, 2 RBI)
2. JD Drew ( For leaving us high and dry after one awesome, injury free year)
3. Reggie Sanders (For stinking it up his one year on the team)
4. Andruw Jones, Year 2000 version (For showing us his full potential and then disappearing, never to be seen again)
5. Jorge Sosa (For being the biggest loser in the bullpen that single handedly ended the 14 year streak)
"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."
Oh, and I LOVE Kelly Johnson
He’s been given the shaft from a managerial standpoint this year. Yes, Marteeeen has been great this year. There is no disputing that. But Kelly was never allowed the chance to earn his job back (and I agree with the OP that he was kept in the lineup too long when he was struggling), and when he was allowed to play, it was in random situations, so he was never allowed to get into any sort of rhythm at the plate, IMO. Likewise, he hits LHP better than RHP, and when does Bobby trot him out there? Solely against RHP. Also, to beat a dead horse, KJ is NOT a lead-off hitter! His apparent mentality, possibly to a fault, just isn’t suited as a table-setter. He just always seemed to perform better as a table-clearer. The way Bobby managed Kelly Johnson annoys me.
But I’m biased, and I know it. But I feel I make a valid argument. Kelly Johnson will probably be released or dealt, and ultimately tear it up and become one of the premier offensive 2nd basemen, at least (his defense is pretty good), in baseball. If he doesn’t stay with us, I at least hope this is the case.
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 21, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
I think I am in love…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 22, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
=)
Can’t wait for January…24 season 8! In NYC! Cool…
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 22, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you have the wrong thread
Or I’m very confused
Don't fire Bobby.
by esadb on Sep 22, 2009 11:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nah...
Justin mentioned something about 24 in another thread.
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Chipper needs to bring that back too.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 23, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I really dug it when Chipper wore the high socks. It’s old school, and it’s cool.
Stirrups are cooler though (maybe).
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
High socks are practically a fetish for me.
Mat Gamel is way too cool for double consonants.
by VivaLosBravos on Sep 23, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
only old baseball fans like high socks
no young player wears them any more, it just looks bush league now.
that's weird...
…I’ve seen a lot of young players wearing them. I must have been hallucinating in my old age….
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
These guys disagree
…just to name a few young stars in the game today…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Sep 23, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i think Pence is the only one out of that group that does it regularly. Now if you had shown Juan Pierre, Dontrelle Willis, and Kris Medlen, that would be different. And Alfonso Soriano too, can’t forget him.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
google images failed me….
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine-
1. Greg Maddux. Ran off to go pitch for the Cubs.
2. Tom Glavine. Wouldn’t retire.
3. John Smoltz. Cried when the Braves didn’t trust him to come back.
4. Andruw Jones. Run away and sign that fat contract.
5. Henry Aaron. Really, you couldn’t finish your career at home?
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by PWHjort on Sep 22, 2009 12:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Didn’t the Braves non-tender Maddog that year?
Also, he accepted LOWER pay to stay with us the first time.
Also, can you blame him for going back to his roots? He was originally a Cubbie, ya know.
I am pretty sure that the Braves didn’t offer AJ a contract too, but I could be wrong on that one.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he is beign sarcasicx dude…or he’s an idiot and should be ignored… but im really betting ont he first one
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
maybe…but, given the nature of some of the posters here, I am not too sure…
If so, I guess I owe $5.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
After further review, that last one should be a tell-tale sign of sarcasm…I suck at life.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys that drove me crazy in a Braves Uni
Chuck James
Jo Jo Reyes
Odalis Perez
Mostly our recent young arms that show a ton of potential in the minors then come up and don’t live up to the hype.
Cockchafer
1. Kenny Lofton- a dickhead when I met him. Absolutely biggest asshole I’ve ever met. And he got caught 20 times in 47 stolen base attempts. How the hell did a basestealer of his caliber manage to do that?
2. Chris Reitsma- probably more the fault of the organization
3. Bret Boone- why didn’t you start injecting before you left Atlanta?
4. Dan Kolb- disappointing all the way around
5. Robert Fick- no explanation
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
Chris Rietsma is one of the nicest guys on the planet, but yeah, he sucked it up hard for the Braves. Of course, that was another Bobby Cox special.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Yeah I have no real hatred for any of these guys, save for Kenny fuckin Lofton. I just hated seeing Reitsma come in to games that last year. It was painful and the fact that he was hyped by the organization made him all the more disappointing. All apologies to Chris but Kenny can kiss my ass.
Reitsma’s 2006 was hard to watch but nothing will ever compare to Mark Wohlers’ 1998. One of the most distinct memories I’ve ever had from a baseball game was that July against the Cubs. Wohlers couldn’t throw a strike to save his life and every fan in the stadium was desperate to see an end to his suffering. The man was a lost sole out there. Cox just left him out there to work through it and he must have thrown about 25 of 30 pitches for balls.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
Wholers fell a part very quickly, but when he was on, he was one of the best. i got to watch the game where he struck out 4 in one inning. If my memory serves me correct, i think at one time he hit something like 106 on the radar gun. Might not have been that high, but definitely triple digits.
I will always remember the good Wholers.
I remember when he couldn’t intentionally walk someone.
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw 103 a bunch of times out of Wholers. To the best of my knowledge, nobody with a reliable radar gun has ever topped 103. Might not be humanly possible…yet.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That is interesting. I never trusted those older guys and the speed numbers they claimed. I remember a story about Bob Feller being gauged by how fast the ball traveled compared to a motorcycle and some nonsense where it ended up being like 120mph. Nonsense. Those guys back then didn’t throw anywhere near as hard and until Marty McFly goes back in the Delorian with a modern radar gun, I’m not gonna believe it.
Interesting to see they had Zumaya at 104. I’d believe it; one of the best games I’ve ever been to was a AAA game her in Norfolk which he started and struck out 16, hitting 103 on the stadium’s radar a bunch of times. He mixed that with an 82 mph changeup. Scary good.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Ha. Robert Fick.
That sure seemed like a good idea at the time.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 22, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved that guy all year until he did that stupid crap with the firstbaseman on the last play of his season. Then he lost me.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Flipping off the entirety of Yankee Stadium
Has him forever on my “awesome list” even if he is a dirty player.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob Wickman
It's going to take a little bit of a miracle, but why not? ~ Bobby Cox
by Old Braves' Fan on Sep 22, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
Holy crap
I hate frenchy
Don't fire Bobby.
by esadb on Sep 22, 2009 10:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Because he's a fucktard?
Don't fire Bobby.
by esadb on Sep 22, 2009 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ob-la-di, ob-la-da
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Mark Teixiera – I rooted for him when he was on the team, but never really liked the guy, and now I really don’t. I mean where would even this ‘09 team be with Feliz and Andrus on it?
2. Jeff Francoeur – 41-44 with Failcoeur, 39-26 without Failcoeur. Talk about a weak link holding us back!
3. Rocker. Because he’s an idiot and an embarrassment to the organization.
That’s really about it.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
I mean where would even this ‘09 team be with Feliz and Andrus on it?
Probably right where we are now, but Gwinnette may have gone undefeated…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 22, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We’d definitely be making use of both of those guys. Feliz would likely be our best option out of the ‘pen and Andrus our best defensive infielder and a guy with a lot of speed. With the problems we’ve had defensively at 2B and 3B this year, don’t you think having him at short and Yunel at second or third would be a pretty huge upgrade. Obviously Chipper still would be in the lineup most of the time, but Prado and Johnson might not be.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
Elvis Andrus would not be a better defensive option than Yunel. Andrus would have to move to 2B to accomodate him.
Also, the trade was 2 years ago. Let it go.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Andrus is ABSOLUTELY better than Escobar defensively.
Maybe it’s because he understands the concept of paying his dues, but his head is in the game all nine innings.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, no. Escobar has just as good range and an elite arm to go with it. He head in the game thing is an argument, but it really has little to do with this.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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I really dont think Yunel is near Andrus in terms of range
but i dont know anything about baseball
Don't fire Bobby.
KJ – .220 .303 .388 .691
MP – .304 .350 .456 .806
EA – .270 .331 .380 .710
Our problems have not been defensive in the middle infield. Our defensive problems have been at 3B and the OF this season. I show the offensive numbers to indicate that Andrus would be a drop off from Prado and just about even (maybe slightly better due to the higher OBP) with a KJ (whose numbers are flat-lined due to a horrible first half). In terms of defense, Andrus is a much better defender than those two, sure. But would the imrpovement on D make up for the drop off in O?
I seriously doubt it.
I think Andrus would still be in AAA and Feliz would be used as sparingly as the other AAA callups in the pen.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Feliz would be far from our #1 BP guy.
Andrus, though, would certainly have been better than the Diory/Conrad void of suck.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny Lofton
Because we traded David fucking Justice to get him. I know it helped keep our HoF rotation together but damn that sucked. Justice was my favorite Brave back then.
Lonnie Smith
that gullible bastard!
You say to-mah-to, I say you're retarded.
by alligatorimpersonator on Sep 22, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
just a few
Pete Orr- it was just annoying hearing them talk about how he’s Canadian.
Bob Wickman- Could not close. Ever.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 22, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Haha, I talked to Pete today.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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neato
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You're crazy
When it comes to Connect Four, nobody is better than Pete Orr.
Baseball, on the other hand… I lol’d until I cried when I went to the WBC, and saw Orr batting 9th for Team Canada.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
i'm sure he's a cool dude
but TBS was so annoying when he came to bat. I already know he’s Canadian, stop telling me.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Jose Hernandez, anyone?
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 22, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
His compensation pick got us Kelly Johnson. So in the long run he was a big help.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
Very nice
I did not know that.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 23, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Julian "Gollum" Tavarez
because he was a crummy pitcher, plus he was creepy-looking to boot.
Here’s a recent pic:
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How about Brent Lillibridge?
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on Sep 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
never had a real problem with him.
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by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 23, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't that his ears were so big...
But that everything else was so small.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 23, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually relievers
It’s not that I hate any of these guys, but I certainly cringe/cringed at the thought of any of these guys in the game at any time.
Kevin Gryboski
Ray King
Mike Remlinger
Macay McBride
Chad Paronto
Ken Ray
Kevin Barry
Chris Reitsma
Chris Resop
Wil Ledezma
Manny Acosta
Elmer Dessens
Dan Kolb
Travis Smith
Albie Lopez
It’s a thankless job where’s it hard to earn respect, but someone’s gotta do it, and looking through this list of names makes me so thankful for the quality pitching staff the Braves have this year.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
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