15 lies Braves fans told themselves
by RichmondBraves on Sep 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
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It's been a rough year, and a very teasing one at that. From well below .500 to 3 GB of the Wild Card, and on our way back to .500 again. Of course there were the pessimists, like me, who didn't feel like the Braves were ready for a run anyways. Then there were the optimists, the ones who brought up our great rotation and good young bats. Where the Braves actually are, to be honest, is somewhere between those two trains of thought.
But then there were the liars, the one's who had a sense of hope beyond fathomable levels. Here's the top 15 lies they told.
#15. "Man Bobby needs to start using Peter Moylan more. He's just rotting there on the bench"
#14. "It's all Terry Pendleton's fault!"
#13. "At least Chipper's still hitting."
#12. "Martin Prado will never sustain hitting at the ML level."
#11. "Garett Anderson will catch that ball. Easy."
#10. "It's ok guys, Jordan Shafer will be back soon"
#9. "Oh good, Bobby Cox is going to the bullpen."
#8. "It's D LOWE TIME BABY! Hope the other team is ready to get ACED UP!"
#7. "3 game series against San Diego? How can we lose?"
#6. "Just wait til Kelly Johnson starts hitting again"
#5. "This would have never happened if Casey Kotchman were still here."
#4. "They're just building suspense for Jason Heyward's big call-up"
#3. "The FO always makes a big trade at the deadline. Expect Matt Holliday to be here soon."
#2. "Thank god we got Nate McLouth."
#1. "Greg Norton pinch-hitting, that's a good move!"
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
as far as #12 goes...
.679 OPS in 191 PA in the second half. .718 OPS vs RHP on the year.
I’m not sold. He basically did what he did last year, got hot for a month and a half. He hasn’t been drawing walks or getting XBH’s since the last week of July.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
This.
Mat Gamel is way too cool for double consonants.
by VivaLosBravos on Sep 11, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a very solid utility player, probably top 5 in the league. His versatility his an asset and with an aging Chipper Jones, he’s a great guy to have off the bench. But if someone values him as a starter and would give us a legit, back of the bullpen arm, I’d take it.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
by jeg on Sep 11, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have been saying that, but people don’t want to believe it…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 11, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
not a rough year
its been an awesome year to watch. Well, only if you’ve watched the past handful of seasons as well.
And McLouth is the bomb
I didnt find this all that funny
and sorry, but i only thought a few of these things during the year. And what’s wrong with Nate McLouth?
Frank Wren for GM of the Year.
he is very good… but some thought hed be our svior… he has a career 800 OPS and plays below avg defense in CF. He’s valuable but he;s not a stud or anything
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
no rational fan thought he was a stud but they recognized a cheap, quality OF. And his true talent level is a little above an .800 OPS plus he provides this team with SB ability, something almost no one else has
by McCann's the Man on Sep 11, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
below average defense?
what games are you watching?
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 12, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
im looking at the stats which point to him being below avg… in addition to pretty much all the scouting reports…. his range isn’t all that great… he makes the plays he gets to but he gets to well below avg amount of balls
evidenced by his career UZR/150 of -9.3 in CF and a range rating of -23.9 (which means he is 9 plays and 24 plays worse than avg, respectively)
It’s called objective evidence… look into it
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
UZR is objective?...
some guy has to go back, watch, and say, “Well he should have gotten to that one” or “He got to one he shouldn’t have”, or whatever goes into determining that crap. But yeah, it’s “objective”.
i think ur are drastically underestimating UZR… its certainly not 100% objective… but its more objective than a fan sitting in front of his tv and saying… wow he is a great defender.
If you think u are more talented at determining the defensive prowess of baseball player than a guy who conceivably gets paid to do it… then more power to u… but u probably need to be knocked down a peg or tow.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
The zones are objective
so even if you don’t like them, they’re still applied consistently.
Mat Gamel is way too cool for double consonants.
by VivaLosBravos on Sep 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not called "15 lies mvhsbball" told themselves
Nate McLouth has been injured all year and has never been a “force”. He’s been hitting .250 or so with the Braves.
I apologize deeply for my post not being up to your standards.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
.263, but whatever, that’s the same as .250. Higher than he was hitting for the Pirates too. And, of course, batting average is the best judge of a hitter.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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yeah because that’s totally what i said.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you did only use ba to support your claim that nate hasn’t been good for us…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 12, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
injury
reading.
and i never said BA is the only important thing. Show where I said that.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Bringing it up as one of your two arguments implies it.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
The team is playing bad because they haven’t hit well. Also their pitcher played bad last game.
In that statement, according to your logic, I just said that our pitchers one bad game is the only important thing.
of course, that’s your logic.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 13, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
calm down…
Frank Wren for GM of the Year.
"Wait, bait and bash." - Jason Heyward's personal philosophy.
hey, I just gotta protect my baby post. too often these things grow negative somehow…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 17, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
why are you still here?
I’ve obviously stopped arguing with everyone
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 17, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you guys misunderstand the Prado topic
I didn’t say Martin Prado is a great ML 2B. I made fun of everyone who thought he was just streaking and he’s not a good hitter. He obviously can hit, though his fielding can be suspect.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and can also save games
which it did a couple nights ago
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 12, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
But his hitting was streaky, as evidenced by the fact that since mid-July, he has hit nothing near what he hit in June.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 12, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
but kelly johnson’s a consistent great hitter, right?
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
to quote you
yeah because that’s totally what i said.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 12, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He did sustain it
for about a two month period.
Mat Gamel is way too cool for double consonants.
by VivaLosBravos on Sep 12, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
2 months longer than KJ
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
incorrect, sir!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 12, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
show a two month span this year
where KJ hit better than Prado
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 12, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, he wouldn’t have to. If Prado did it for 2 months, and you say that’s 2 months longer than Johnson, then if Johnson was consistent for even a week or two, that’d be enough to prove your statement incorrect.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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lol you got me lol good point lol
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
From 23 July – 10 Sept
KJ – 245 .373 .531 .903
MP – .245 .284 .351 .63
Your honor, the defense rests.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
ABs?
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s all there for you.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelly definitely has a 6 pack.
Martin does not.
Mat Gamel is way too cool for double consonants.
by VivaLosBravos on Sep 14, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
From 23 July – 10 Sept
KJ – 245 .373 .531 .903
MP – .245 .284 .351 .63
Your honor, the defense rests.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Reply fail
Now posted where it should have been…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
evidence rendered inadmissible for failure to show it in the proper forum
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
and why has this become so hostile?
i made a couple jokes about the season, and people are being prick jackasses about it
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 13, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
because u are responding to every comment.. .like its an attack
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
…in a prick-jackassed manner.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 13, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone knows prick-jackass manner in copyrighted by you
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I know right! He had no business using my methods!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
This. Whenever the only interaction you have on the site is with the one post you make and you watch it like a hawk, you’re going to end up disappointed in the response.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
watched like a hawk?
I check this site once a day, is that a problem?
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 15, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry, I have no idea how many times you check the site, and however it is it’s no problem. What I’m saying is, I really can’t remember seeing your name in any of the other threads, so what I’m seeing is someone who put up a post and is only interacting in that post, going out of the way to refute or argue with every single post from other users that disagrees with your own. You’re asking why it’s become hostile, my argument would be that this style of posting generally leads to hostility, intentional or not.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
this post is my baby
I have to nurture it.
This is the first time ina couple weeks I’ve had free time, and the Braves are rarely on tv here so I can’t contribute too much. I’m mostly a lurker for the Minor League information
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 15, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
that you’re setting a very good example for your post-baby.
Mat Gamel is way too cool for double consonants.
by VivaLosBravos on Sep 16, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It happens
Not everyone is in the right mood for humor at times. I guess your disclaimer wasn’t disclaimer-ey enough.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Hey its been pretty well received and it was funny. Most everything has been positive.
I just thought #12 was ironic because Prado essentially repeated his 08’ with more AB’s and hasn’t been productive in a couple months.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
yeah i haven't really paid attention to the braves for a while
I’ve had college and stuff. Either way I couldn’t care less about Prado’s numbers atm. This thread has become tiresome and overly frustrating. I’m gonna ignore justin’s jackass comment. I got out of the shower and wrote it immediately after. 0 research and 0 attempts at factual information. I wasn’t trying to make any arguments or points in the main thread.
but whatever. everything on this site usually ends up this way anyways. I’m satisfied with the 6 recs, and I didn’t even ask for them!
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 14, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
ignore it all you want, but you definitely started taking shots at certain people (cbwilk and mvhsbball, just to name 2) who were just giving their $0.02
Whatever though.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 14, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a few times…because his OBP since coming off of the DL is over .400…which is what you want – a guy that gets on base a lot.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 14, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this, Who would have thought up 15, I think we could boil this down to 5
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