Hanson
by jack dein on Sep 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT
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I'm not one to read much of what ESPN puts out but Jerry Crasnick has a nice article about Tommy Hanson up.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=4434913
It's a good read and also talks about some other rookies this year but mostly Hanson. It talks some about how well he handled himself with all the hype surrounding him and what some of the other veterans have thought about him.
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Ha, you should read some of the comments the Phillies fans leave there about JA Happ. Jeez, Ja Happ is just an average pitcher with that offense. But what else do you expect from Phillies fans, such classless indviduals.
"A Tar Heel Born and a Tar Heel bred, and when i die ill be a Tar Heel dead."
by mad_dog_maddux on Sep 1, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Sep 1, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a middle to back of the rotation pitcher. My question is why is he just now making his major league debut he’s 26 years old.
And the classless fans thing pretty much goes for any fan of a team in the northeast. Notice how many of those people came out when the Red Sox starting winning or the Patriots got good. Talk about jumping on the bandwagon.
by jack dein on Sep 1, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be too negative...
but Braves fans aren’t much different, not many people at games, but if we were in 1st, bet it would be filled. It’s not just northeast, it’s all sports.
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 1, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’re confusing lazy/fickle fans with dumb assholes.
by Cracker! on Sep 1, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Braves fans didn’t show up even when ATL made the playoffs. At least they’re consistent.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Sep 1, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
I think this team could benefit from a consistent channel broadcasting our games like NESN, YES, etc…
Get our fan base back.
by drumzalicious on Sep 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
The Braves had a consistent channel broadcasting their games for years and years. The SuperStation. However, even when TBS was at its peak with Skip, Don, Joe, and Ernie, the Braves routinely failed to draw sellout crowds, even for their playoff games, since those TBS fans were all across the country and not able to get to Atlanta.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Sep 1, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t really true. For most of the 1990’s the Braves were in the top 5 in attendance every single year. The decline really started to occur in the 2000’s (when we failed to get out of the NLDS year after year and ownership went through a drastic overhaul).
by get swoll yunel on Sep 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is and always will be
Turner Field can seat upwards of 55,000-57,000 depending on whom you ask. The highest crowds this year were two consecutive days of 50,000 and 51,000 during the Mets series where Greg Maddux’s number was retired, and the All American Rejects had a free concert. The Yankees and Red Sox series still topped out in the 47,000-48,000, despite being declared sell-outs.
Unless you’re playing once a week on Sundays, it’s pretty much very difficult to get 55,000+ into a venue with regularity. They have too many seats, and not nearly enough interested fans to come and fill them.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Sep 2, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but your enormous bulk can take up, what, 4 – 5 seats? They sell them like airlines do, right?
by soup du jour on Sep 2, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could do away with 437-431, and probably not be affected at all. Those are always the last seats to be filled, because they are the farthest away from the action. They are the last ones to see the shade arrive and are brutal on day games. The Braves could demolish that section, and put up another giant idol of some local company. Whats left? Or leave it open to get a good view of the neighborhood/war zone.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Sep 2, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
What are you talking about, I love being able to see that Kroger has a $5.99 chicken meal at a low low price, every day, and that they’re open 24 hrs a day. The skyline could ONLY become better if we could see the ABC/Package store that was used in the filming of “famous” rapper, T.I.’s ATL.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Sep 2, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$5.99? i’ll be right back.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Sep 2, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
the most attended games this year was the recent Dodgers’ series. 53K+
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Sep 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify
I’m talking about Turner Field, those games were in LA
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Sep 5, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets get real
Happ has a 2.63 ERA, how is he a back of the rotation starter? I hate the Phillies too, but that just doesn’t make much sense.
by SayHeyWerd on Sep 1, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happ’s got a 4.83 tRA and a 4.27 FIP. He’s been severely aided by a .249 BABIP and an 86.2% LOB.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Sep 1, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget the philly defense. If we put a better defense behind Hanson we could shave .2-.5 runs off his era and then he’d be right there with happ
by McCann's the Man on Sep 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ERA
says very little, nowhere near enough to make you ROY
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually Happ gets a ton of help from his defense as well, I’d argue the Phils D is the reason he’s pitching so well
by McCann's the Man on Sep 1, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so sure it'd be that different
Maybe cause we’ve been pretty bad for a while, but I still remember empy seats in the playoffs at the launching pad.
by BravesfaninMontana on Sep 1, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets face it
theres defentely a lot of quality Braves fans on this site, but theres really not that many fans of the Atlanta Braves compared to other teams. At least we still have gangstas repping our hat.
by SayHeyWerd on Sep 1, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually
there was something posted that showed that the braves were i believe the 3rd fav team.
by drumzalicious on Sep 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious?
theres tons of Braves fans. just not in Atlanta.
Frank Wren for GM of the Year.
by mvhsbball on Sep 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahead of the Dodgers, Cubs, and Cardinals….yet the local fans only care about that Georgia/Georgia Tech game.
It’s too bad that the South is completely obsessed with college football. Mindless entertainment, really. Football, to me, is running up and down a field for 3 hours. There is no drama. It’s like eating turkey. Just puts me out cold. And the last 3 minutes of the game last an hour. If that’s your cup of tea, or you find that enjoyable, more power to you; but I, most certainly, do not.
Southerners are aware of the Braves, but just don’t care. If nobody is getting leveled in the game, they consider the game to be “boring.” The South thinks of the Braves as, “the team that makes it all the way and then caves.” People give up very easily in the South. They/We could learn something from Cubs fans, for God’s sake. Even if the Cubs are 12 games out in mid-September, it’s sell-out after sell-out after sell-out. But honestly, lol, Cubs fans are wasting their time. The Cubs are cursed.
So, to sum up: the majority of people in the South are idiots. Only a few of us actually know what’s up.
What? The truth hurts.
Go Braves.
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"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
p.s. Yes, very good article about Tommy and Meds. I was surprised to see a Brave on the main page of ESPN yesterday.
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"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of it is population. If you were to draw a circle with a 50 mile radius around every stadium, then where would Atlanta rank? I’m just throwing out random guesses, but Atlanta would probably have 5 million people in that circle, whereas NY would have 25 million, LA 20 million, Chicago 15 million? Plus, a large percentage of Atlanta residents migrated there. They didn’t grow up in the area and don’t really have any attachment to the local sports teams. That’s why you see so many opposing fans (see this years Yankees, Cubs and Red Sox series) at the ballpark.
Don’t fool yourself, football is more popular in every part of the country, it’s just that the baseball zealots are more noticeable in stadiums where they are drawing from much larger population pools. Notable exceptions would be St. Louis (good) and the Marlins (bad).
by DCP916 on Sep 2, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball is more important in St. Louis than anything else…and it’s not even close. The same is probably true in NY and Bos, but its closer. college football has no hold in these areas and thats part of the reason I am sure.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Sep 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh sure. Population plays a huge part as well. I agree. But my thinking is that our attendance should be significantly higher than it is. It shouldn’t matter whether we are playing the Red Sox or the Reds. People should come out to see the BRAVOS.
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"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LA, NYC, and Chicago actually all support 2 teams, so it’s not a fair comparison. Heck, even the SF Bay Area supports two teams, with an aggregate pop around 5m.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Sep 2, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if it was you, but someone made the same point a while back about football being completely mindless, and I refrained from entering the discussion because I didn’t know where to begin, but now that you’re somehow tying it all in with Southerners being idiots and “giv[ing] up very easily,” I’m going to have to call you on your B.S. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed, or what?
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on Sep 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go back....
…to where you came from. Generalize much?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Sep 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not stating facts. All of this is my opinion. Football isn’t mindless; it’s just kind of retarded. Have a nice day.
; ))
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"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Like I said”………….
If football is your thing, then great. But I’m not one to jump on bandwagons. The only point I was really trying to make is that the South is obsessed with college football. Baseball, not so much. It’s not generalizing, it’s looking big picture.
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football is in no way shape or form retarded. In fact, I bet football players have a higher IQ than most baseball players.
Football is so much more complex of a game than baseball. Football is one of the most complicated sport out there!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 2, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, memorizing those plays can be a bitch, but any sport where the record at the end of the season is 7-6, I just can’t get into that.
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’d prefer 41-121?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 2, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and either that record would be 7-9 or 10-6…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 2, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not in college footballl
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Sep 3, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nor at USF!
10-2 this season, BE champs, BCS bowl, here we come!
:)
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 3, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did the news finally come out that out coach got fired and USF hired me as the coch… otherwise im skeptical
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Sep 3, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJL is a saint!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 3, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we can continue this convo next time we are chatting ont he book….but just to let you know bring ur best… cause JL is mentally retarded…and i dont mean that to be hyperbole… im dead serious
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Sep 3, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol…deal!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 3, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about...
saying the majority of the people in the South are idiots. That is sort of a generalization.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Sep 2, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol. Fair enough. I live and work in the South, and I, myself, am an idiot, so yeah. haha
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 2, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the article link
I missed it somehow.
God those comments are awesome. Even on the best day ESPN commenters are spectacularly stupid, but if you cross section that with the Philidelphia Sports fan sub section, you get a whole special level of asshole.
Good stuff. Makes me appreciate the level of discourse on this site.
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Sep 2, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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