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Atlanta Braves Minor League Recap: 8/9

Gwinnett 4, Toledo 8

  • C. Burke 3-5 2B
  • B. Jones 3-4 2 2B, 3B
  • B. Barton 2-3 2 RBI, CS(7)

John Halama got hammered for 7 runs in 5 innings in this game, definitely his worst start so far as a Brave. I wonder if Brandon Jones was pouting for most of the year for not making the big club and now he is over it, because he has apparently found his power stroke in the last few weeks. Just in his last 10 games he has 7 of his season total 24 XBHs. I am guessing he is going to get a chance at a September call up. (He probably was anyways, but he is cinching it I believe).

Mississippi 7, Huntsville 4

  • J. Heyward 1-5 HR(6)
  • C. Rodriguez 4-5 2 RBI
  • J. Ortegano 7IP 8H 2R 1BB 8K

Jose Ortegano has been dealing since he was promoted to Mississippi. He is 3-0 in 3 starts with 21 K in 20 IP vs only 3 BB. You really can't argue with that. He also just turned 22 years old. Can't complain about that either. I am very impressed with how much power Jason Heyward brought with him to Mississippi. He is actually homering slightly more often than he was in the Carolina League (HR/17.8AB - AA; HR/18.9AB - A).

Lynchburg 4, Myrtle Beach 2

  • J. Sucre 1-4 2B
  • C. Shehan 1-4 2B RBI, 2K
  • C. Rohrbough 5IP 3H 1R 4BB 4K

The Pelicans got beat by some hot shot in the Pirates organization by the name of Jeff Locke. This was the best start by Cole Rohrbough in over a month and even then I wouldn't call it a rousing success. But he only allowed 1 run on 3 hits so I hope it was a confidence booster for him.

Rome - Off

I am wondering if Mike Minor will start for Rome tomorrow since he has joined the team now. I guess we will see!

Pulaski 6, Danville 7

  • C. Harrilchak 4-4 2B, HR(2), 2 RBI, BB
  • RSF 1-4 2B, RBI, BB
  • J. Whitmer 2-4 2B, RBI, 2K
  • M. Crim 6IP 7H 2R 0BB 7K

Matt Crim continues an impressive start to his career. He is now 8-0 in 9 appearances. Like I said last time, his peripherals aren't mind blowing, but he has been pretty solid with a strong ground ball rate. Cory Harrilchak is now hitting .364 on the season. He isn't going to hit for a ton of power, but he will probably continue to hit for a good average (not .360, but still .300+) and get on base. Maybe a future 4th OF or a possible lead off candidate if he adds some doubles power.

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How about on Tuesday:

Heyward – Up
Norton – Down

Infante – Up
Diory – Down

Carlyle – Up
Acosta – Down

Si or no?

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by mvhsbball on Aug 9, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

what?

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by mvhsbball on Aug 9, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Claro que si to Heyward and Infante.

No me jotas with this Buddy Carlyle crap.

Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.

by VivaLosBravos on Aug 9, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pero Buddy Carlyle esta muy bueno en las ligas secundarias.

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by mvhsbball on Aug 9, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y muy guapo. Pero, el lanza como mierda y el tiene muchas problemas del azucar de sangre.

Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.

by VivaLosBravos on Aug 9, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

¡Ayúdeme! ¡No hablo español!

by l0stnumber on Aug 9, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

llorarme un rio

Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.

by VivaLosBravos on Aug 9, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take all of that… Except I don’t think the Carlyle/Acosta move is necessary. Carlyle is forgettable. At least Acosta has some potential.

Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur

A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.

by timmy3 on Aug 10, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like them all those moves
I hate Diory and i hate Norton
I dont mind Acosta but like Buddy more.

by BRaves1 on Aug 9, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Drinking are we?

But anyways I think Heyward should stay down until his season is over.

by bbxxj on Aug 9, 2009 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What’s wrong? Too afraid we might win something? =P

I’m just wondering what else he has to prove. He’s only been the best hitter in AA since being called up… He’s not hitting Double-A like a person who still has work to improve, he’s hitting AA like someone that has no business being in Double-A. If you leave him there, you risk stagnating him. No one’s rushing him, he’s rushing everyone’s preconceived notions.

Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur

A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.

by timmy3 on Aug 10, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

My duly considered, postconceived notion is he should be starting in RF right now.

by fandave on Aug 10, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday Jason!

Another HR. If the nickname “Machine” weren’t already taken…

by Bronn on Aug 9, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

no estoy muy de acuerdo. I would prefer:

Heyward : up to AAA
Norton: not down, OUT

Infante: up
Diory: down

Acosta: down
Smoltz: get him to the pen.

by armymen on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I am officially

Giving 1 to 1 callup odds on Heyward in the next 10 days. The time is nigh at hand

by Sid Bream's Moustache on Aug 9, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Heyward’s AA wOBA is .185 points higher than Mike Stanton’s.

Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.

by VivaLosBravos on Aug 9, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

outside of HRs, Stanton’s numbers are garbage compared to Heyward’s.

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by mvhsbball on Aug 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’d really like a scouting report on Ortegano, at this point. All i really know about him is that he’s a soft-throwing lefty from Venezuela.

1) What’s he throw?
2) What’s his best pitch?
3) Does he project better as a starter or reliever?
4) Overhead, 3/4, or side arm delivery?

by Bronn on Aug 10, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

1) Fastball, Changeup, Curve
2) His changeup is his best and its a plus pitch. His fastball is 86-89 but he can get it up to 91. He does have good command of his fastball and changeup, and can throw his curve for strikes.
3) Ortegano is thin and listed at 145 lbs. He needs to add some muscle and his frame would support it. If he can gain strength, he could probably be a legit starter prospect. If not, he could be a very useful reliever, and not just a LOOGY. His changeup is good enough to get righties out. With added weight, Ortegano could pick up a few ticks on his fastball and if that happens, he’s could wind up climbing some prospect lists in a hurry.
4) 3/4

"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."

by jeg on Aug 10, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone feed that boy! He’s hungry.

Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur

A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.

by timmy3 on Aug 10, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jordan Schafer question

Anybody know for sure if he’s still with the team in Gwinnett? I know he’s injured, but has he been sent home for the year, or is he still with the team at games? Not what players normally do – I’d like to know if anybody knows for sure.
Thanks in advance….

by secondbass on Aug 10, 2009 5:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve seen recent pictures of him in the dugout… He’s just got a like a cast on his left wrist…

this was taken on the 7/25…

Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur

A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.

by timmy3 on Aug 10, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole Miles

I don’t know how much of a prospect Cole is, but he’s turning things around in the second half at MB. He hit in the low .200s for most of the year, but he’s pulled his average up to .271, which is no small feat considering where he was. He’s hit .406 in his last 10 games. He’s a nice guy and a fun player to watch….here’s hoping he continues his success!
Just thought I’d mention it……….

by secondbass on Aug 10, 2009 5:25 AM EDT reply actions  

A couple of things I’m looking forward to.

Some call-ups to the bigs (not necessarily Heyward).
Infante coming back
Mike Minor making a start (let’s find out if he’s 1st round worthy)

What I’m not looking forward to…going to work. I’m tired.

by Sparhawk on Aug 10, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Minor...

was 1st round worthy…just not pick #7 worthy.

he’ll be a legit #3 for us in a rotation in 5 years of:

1. Tommy H.
2. Jair
3. Minor
4. Delgado (who’s a freakin’ stud, FWIW)
5. Teheran (who will be a freakin’ stud).

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 10, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way

If you’re going with that rotation, the OLDEST guys would be Jurrjens and Hanson at 27. Minor will only be 25 and Delgado and Teheran will 23. We would have to get a veteran pitcher or two in there.

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by mvhsbball on Aug 10, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what purpose?

Mentoring the young guys? Let’s just bring Greg Maddux in every spring, and then twice a month during the season. Millions cheaper than signing, oh, a 36 year old Aaron Harang to “anchor” the rotation. The only guy on this proposed rotation who’d be making big bucks would be JJ-Tommy should be in arbitration ( I think) and none of these others would even be arbitration eligible yet.

And that’s not saying we have to stick to the Delgado/Teheran plan-we’ve got so much pitching in the system with Medlen, Ortegano, Spruill, Cordier, DeVall, Diamond, the other Delgado, possibly Hale as a starter, Rohrbough, maybe Oberholtzer…I just don’t see why, 5 years from now, we shouldn’t have a starting rotation comprised entirely of guys from our own system.

by Bronn on Aug 10, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole “veteran starter who somehow improves a team even if there is a younger pitcher who could be better being held in the minors” idea is overrated.

by acie4mvp on Aug 10, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you, but likely hood of even half of those guys working out is incredibly low. That’s why you need an insane amount of depth, so that maybe one of them will work out.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Aug 10, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't need half of them

We just need 3. Maybe just 2 , since Minor is supposed to be as close to a sure thing as you get when drafting a pitcher.

Plus, the 5th guy in the rotation doesn’t have to be a stud, he just has to be good. We’re in good shape because with Hanson and JJ, we’ve got at the very least the top two spots in our rotation locked down for years. When I’m looking at 5 years from now, I’m not questioning where we’ll find 3 SPs (that’s 3 we need out of the 13 guys I mentioned, and I forgot about JJ Hoover, who some are bullish on). My questions are: 1) Who’s playing 3rd base? 2) Who’s playing second base? 3) Who’s playing left field? 4) Is Escobar still here? 5) Who’s on the bench? 6) Who’s our closer?

I’m just really confident that the Braves have enough pitching in their own system to lean on that. If the Braves are spending money in the offseason prior to 2014, let them sign a third baseman or left fielder, and save on pitching by going with the cheaper, in house options.

by Bronn on Aug 11, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gwinnett v Toledo

I live in Toledo and attended 2 of the games. I never saw Halaama top 82 on the gun and a lot of the outs he did have were of the noisey long variety. The box score doesn’t do Brandon Jones justice, the ball absolutely explodes off his bat. Barton was an absolute defensive fiasco in center Sunday night.

by Mgoblue44 on Aug 10, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweet. Nice comment about BJones.
My sister lives in Maumee. She used to go to a fair amount of Mud Hens games, unfortunately not because she likes baseball, but because she used to be a school bus driver (field trips). She also got married on that big barge in the river up there.

by Lizziebeth on Aug 10, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday J-Hey!

Our team is going so well now, imagine what his bat could do for us…

by BigG1392 on Aug 10, 2009 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

did the Cards rush Pujols?

i mean, they were probably in a playoff race of their own, but they let him mature in the minors. There’s something about having a year in a league to get muscle memory and quick twitch muscle reactions fine tuned. Otherwise, the player rushes and, when faced with adversity, turns into simply over-swinging on balls (Andruw, anyone?). It’s a fine balance between wanting the youth in the majors and wanting him to take some lumps before they threaten an otherwise brilliant career.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 10, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or he could be a freak on the Justin Upton lvl.

by graf on Aug 10, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

upton was brought up then sent down

which means they lost some time he could have been spending with the big team had they just waited a little more

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Aug 10, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh?

Upton was brought up in August 2007, where he played 43 games for Arizona and finished the season with them. Then he played the entire 2008 season with Arizona (with the except of a 5 week stint on the DL) and finished with an .816 OPS on the year (better than McLouth, Diaz, Francouer, Schafer, Garret Anderson-every OFer except Church).

So I don’t know how they lost time, unless you believe that he wouldn’t have been injured had he stayed in the minors longer. If this team had the 20 year old Justin Upton, we’d have a much better outfield.

by Bronn on Aug 10, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

im not debating that he is good… and i thoguht he struggled in 07 and was started 08 in AAA…but i guess i was wrong

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Aug 11, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh-wha?

Pujols spent a single year in the minor leagues. He played 133 games, and ascended through every level that year. He was older than Heyward because he’d already spent a year playing JUCO, and didn’t play in the season following his draft selection. He made the team coming out of camp as a 21 year old. Given that he was a 20th round draft pick (those guys usually don’t carry high expectations) I’d say certainly, the Cardinals rushed him to the big leagues.

Heyward has played 219 games in the minors, and he’s posted comparable numbers to Albert

Albert: .314/.378.543, .920 OPS. HR every 25.8 ABs
Heyward: .323/.392/.519, .911 OPS. HR every 28.9 ABs

Pujols homered more frequently, but Heyward has played in some notorious pitchers’ parks.

So, I’m glad you brought up Pujols, because Hewyard has been putting up fairly similar production, at a younger age, over a longer sustained period. I certainly don’t think he’s going to Albert Pujos, but there’s no reason to think the kid isn’t ready for The Show.

by Bronn on Aug 10, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure pujols was drafted out of jr college and spent maybe a season and a half in the minors. he wasn’t even supposed to make the roster but he was so impressive in ST they made him the starter. I can’t cross check that right now though

by yondaime4 on Aug 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok…No Heyward call ups (Gwinett or Atlanta) before next Sunday since I just purchased tickets to the MS Braves and Montgomery Biscuits games on Friday and Saturday nights next weekend. In addition to Heyward and Freeman I hope to get a look at some of the pitching depth at AA also.

by Mountngrown on Aug 10, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus christ

is James Andrews the only guy who does those surgerys? Or can other doctors do it too? If not, hes a really really really really busy man.

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by mvhsbball on Aug 10, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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