A Quick Exercise
Offensive components make up runs, runs make up wins. The Braves have hit .286/.360/.456 since the All-Star Break. Suppose, for a second, that's sustainable*. I used this line-up optimization tool (plugging in what the Braves have done as a whole since the break in every position) to see how many runs the Braves would score. Turns out, that's 5.545 per game, or approximately 288 runs.
*You make the decision as to whether or not it's actually sustainable. I'll say this, the leaders in batting average through yesterday were the LA Angels, hitting more than .286. The leaders in OBP were the NY Yankees, getting on at a .359 clip. And the leaders in SLG%** were the NY Yankees slugging well over .456. I don't think the 2009 Atlanta Braves are the NY Yankees, but they're a much improved team offensively. For the purposes of this piece, we'll assume it is sustainable. What do I think in regards to the sustainability of our offense? I think maybe. Which is a lot more credit than some, or even most, will give it.
**Why do we call it OBP and SLG%? Spelled out, they're On-Base Percentage and Slugging Percentage. OBP make sense--OBP being the percent of the situations you've reached safely out of all possibilities. But what is SLG% a percentage of? It's calculated Total Bases divided by At Bats. In order for something to classify as a percentage, it has to function algorithmically as: something divided by something else of the same units as the first something that encompasses all of, and not necessarily just, the first something. If it were truly a percentage it would be TB/4*AB (Total Bases divided by opportunities to record Total Bases). But no! It's Total Bases divided by opportunities to record a total base divided by 4. It's not a percentage. But that's not what I'm here to talk about. The naming conventions. Why do we use a "P" for "percentage" in OBP and a "%" for "percentage" in SLG%? All other problems aside, we should probably come up with a conventional, unified nomenclature for baseball statistics. Following the example of IUPAC. When we can't agree on how to label something as seemingly simple as the word "percentage"--a word used in a vast number of statistics--the problem's a bit out of hand.
Now, suppose for a second you need 90 wins to make the post-season. You've gotta go 34-18 (.654) over the final 52 games to improve your current record--56-54 (.507)--to 90-72 (.556).
At this point, we're assuming the Braves score 288 runs in the 2nd half. Using that assumption and a little reverse-engineering of the Pythagorean Expectation, I get that if the Braves allow 200 runs over the last 52 games, they'll win 34 of them, enough to win 90 and to make the post-season.
Is it possible to do this?
200 runs over 52 games averages out to 3.85 runs/game. The Braves' ERA, as a whole, is 3.77. I'd say it's possible.
Go backwards. The Braves have a 3.33 ERA since the all-star break. Now suppose, for a second, this is sustainable* (forgetting all previous assumptions, except you need 90 wins to get to the playoffs). The Braves would allow 173 runs over their final 52 games.
*The Giants lead baseball with a 3.49 ERA so again, I'll let you decide whether or not it's sustainable. Remember, though, rough patches from Lowe and Medlen, the use of Reyes and Boyer, and the proposition of Tim Hudson's 2nd half return makes the Braves' already excellent 3.77 team ERA seem a little higher than the team's capable of, still. Again, my answer is maybe.
Again, using a reverse-engineering of the Pythagorean Expectation, the Braves would have to score ~241 runs over the final 52 games to get 34 wins and make the playoffs. That's 4.63 runs a game.
Is that doable?
Again, using the line-up optimization tool, only this time pluging in actual player stats that include a very crude Diaz/Church combined estimation and what we've gotten out of the 9th spot as a whole on the year, I can gain some insight as to whether or not the players on the Braves' roster are capable of scoring 4.63 runs a game. Here are the results.
Very possible. They'd score 5.26 runs/game with that line-up. Of course, loads of statistical noise and not nearly precise enough predictive value, but the results are encouraging. No matter how you slice it, if the Braves play as well as they have since the break, they should have a pretty good shot at making the post-season.
It's possible. Very possible. Don't go giving up on her yet.
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I thin the increased OBP is certainly sustainable, the only reuglar nowhere near .350 is Garrett Anderson (don’t know about diaz). The slugging % remains to be seen. The other important thing to remember is that we are wildly inconsistent, one game we go off for 10 runs or so and then the next night get shutout. That averages out to 5 runs a game which looks great but you have a realistic shot in only one of those games. What I do know is if McLouth, Church, and Prado had been starting from day 1 for us this year, we would easily be ahead of the phils so that’s something to look forward to next year (along with the likely addition of heyward and a fully healthy tim hudson)
by McCann's the Man on Aug 8, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Pythagorean covers that.
The inconsistency thing.
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by PWHjort on Aug 8, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of...
But only if you assume that wild variations will level out eventually. All it goes off of is runs scored and allowed. That’s why teams that win or lose lots of one-run games often have their pythag look different than their actual wins (see the ’07 Diamondbacks, who won 90 games when their run differential predicted 79.)
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson is a key imo...
looking at his splits, his numbers are vastly different in wins vs. losses. McCann is bound to slide a little as the season wears on with the strain of catching. If Anderson and LaRoche can step into that void, the offense can get a lot better. With the starting pitching, 4-5 runs per game could be enough. But those two are the key, Anderson and LaRoche driving in runs, and to a lesser extent McLotuh, Prado, and Chipper getting on in front of them.
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 8, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry for not giving the #s....
GA in 46 wins—11 2B, 6 HR, 22 runs, 32 RBI, .347/.384/.521, a .905 ops
GA in 42 losses-8 2B, 3 HR, 10 runs, 11 RBI, .223/.242/.338, a .580 ops
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=anderga01&year=&t=b#outcb
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 8, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a guy who's hit in the heart of the lineup most of the year, that's not at all surprising.
When your run-producing spots aren’t, you know, producing runs, the whole offense is going to struggle.
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by MichaelProcton on Aug 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well clearly,...
cause if Anderson isn’t producing runs we have no one else to pick up the slack. sheesh.
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 14, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the early part of the year...
We really didn’t. Francoeur wasn’t doing it, Schafer wasn’t doing it, Johnson wasn’t doing it, Kotchman wasn’t really doing it. And none of those guys hit in the heart of the lineup.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great read, very well put together.
Good food for thought and hopefully we can point at this at the end of September, sitting around 90-72.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Aug 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Interesting stuff. Taking this a slightly different direction…
I remember one year when there was a team ( Rockies I think) who seemed to buck the trend. This isn’t exact so just bare with me. It seemed like this team would win like 4 out of 5 or 8 out of 10. They won a lot of one run games or fairly close games. But when they would lose, they would get beat 11-2. They scored less than other teams but had a better record.
I wondered if this wasn’t somewhat by effect. I got the feeling that when their manager sensed the game was out of hand he did a lot of letting his pitchers take one for the team (thus resting his better pitchers and saving them for games they could actually effect the outcome). Pretty smart I thought.
by niekromurphy on Aug 8, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Good points. Bullpen has a lot to do with that. If you have a really good back-end of the bullpen you win close games but a bad front end you lose a lot of blowouts.
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by PWHjort on Aug 9, 2009 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The '07 Diamondbacks were very similar.
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by MichaelProcton on Aug 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
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by PWHjort on Aug 13, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crow eating moment
I was critical of the Laroche trade, called it ignorant. Now, cooled off and looking at the trade I think I was the ignorant one. Laroche makes us a lot better of an offensive club, that added power and threat of, was what this lineup needed. Sorry Rochey. Forgive me?
by Cracker! on Aug 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I find all the number crunching to a bit befuddling. I guess I’m just old school but I think some of the math is not going to show a lot of realities. I don’t really see how Pythagoras is going to have much in the way of predictive value. I can’t see how one would be able to figure in , let’s say, Chipper’s slumps or injuries. Now the FO must have figured some of that in, but it would be a guesstimate. I just look at BA, OBP, and to a lesser degree slugging%, I don’t bother with OPS cause it’s already right there in front of me anyway. Can the Braves make the playoffs? Absolutely,Yes they can if they can get consistent and the BP doesn’t get wore out, will Bobby spread the BP out or keep sending in the same 3 guys,I don’t know and I think only Bobby knows that, too many variables. Hell the marlins could fall by the wayside with the Phillies and we could walk to the division win, but right now the team that worries me the most isn’t the Phillies it’s the Gnats they are who we have to beat next,one game at a time. Well that’s what I think, I’m not going to use a scientific calculator to over analyze things that can change in a day.
by jimmontg on Aug 10, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"will Bobby spread the BP out or keep sending in the same 3 guys"
Here’s the problem with that question. If your answers are yes; no, another question must be asked: can the guys outside of Gonzalez/Soriano/Moylan be trusted to hold a tight lead in an important ballgame? They’ve shown to struggle when put in those kinds of spots.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 13, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remainder of the schedule
looks favorable. 28 at home and 22 away. 28 against teams with records worse than them, 22 against teams with records better than them.
16 home games against teams with worse records, 12 home games against teams with better records. 12 away games against teams with worse records and 10 away games against teams with better records.
The Braves won 2 games against the Dodgers since this thread was started, so now they have to go 32-18 to reach the 90 win level. VERY DOABLE IMO!
by Braves fan since 1966 on Aug 10, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We've basically covered the worst part of our schedule
Those games against the Dodgers. The other good news is we play the East a bunch down the stretch, so we can conceivably control our own destiny.
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by PWHjort on Aug 11, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, uh ...
Say what?

You aren’t the czar of typographic emphasis
by scstrato on Aug 10, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I pimp this site regularly...
But SportsClubStats has us needing exactly 90 wins (30-18/.625) to have a better than even shot at the playoffs (a 61% shot, to be precise.) However, 88 wins will still get us in close to a quarter of the time.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool Site, Michael
I’d never seen that before. Thanks a lot.
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