Game 119 Recap:  Nuts

i knew i wasnt crazy! i thought i really was going crazy when the Mets scored 8 runs earlier tonight…actually, i was going crazy, but i swore i saw it from Freeman too. I even looked and i posted it in game thread.

Its weird tho cause in that inning, Freeman tripled with 1 out. Then the 5th hitter hit a sac fly and scored Freeman…but then the inning ended without a 3rd out. Hmmm…maybe someone was sippin a little bit in the press box in Mississippi? Alcohol in the heat can be very dangerous

Good points on Chipper and McCann’s offensive woes. Chipper needs some rest to ail his achy obliques, and I’ve already said my peace on why I don’t think McCann should be batting 4th. And the one good hit McCann does have is immediately negated by a GIDP.

I could be overreacting, but I still stand that this was Bobby’s fault. For someone who’s been touted to be a great manager of people, he sure didn’t notice the signs that Prado could still have been feeling under, when both Boog and Simpson were talking about his negative body language during BP, and he sure didn’t notice the really bad body language coming from Lowe after he got hit in the hand, and wouldn’t even let Jeff Porter examine the damage.

I’ll give credit to Bobby when I see fit to give him credit. I loved it early in the season when he interchanged Gonzalez and Soriano (which he’s abandoned now), but honestly, I can’t remember the last time he’s done anything at all managerially impressive in the last few weeks aside from going by the book decisions.

And not so much implicating agreement to what justin was responding to, but since you took the time to accuse me of not knowing what I’m talking about, what the hell.

I agree that $15M is too high for Lowe, but the Braves needed pitching. Sadly, overpaying is what gets results done quickly, and the talent pool for FA pitchers was dwindling down to Lowe and Oliver Perez, and for better or worse, the Braves are stuck with Lowe until he’s almost 40. Along with Kawakami, the Braves now have two pitchers that have combined to miss maybe 2-3 starts, which in itself is a luxury that many teams cannot claim. Neither are aces, but neither is Medlen or any other alternatives in your so called wings. Without such durable and capable of above-average performing pitching, could the Braves and their fans still say that we have the best SP in the game?

As for Teixeira, if you didn’t get it from the bullshit excuses that he and his wife made up, and thought that he was going to go anywhere other than New York, you need to open your eyes a little.

if one WAR is worth $4.5M, Lowe has been worth 12.5M already this season.

And Lincecum has been worth $32.5M

I know the 4.5 ERA is the result of getting shelled a few games of the year, but he is hardly a $15m pitcher. Santana and Lincecum are $15m pitchers. Lowe is a $7m pitcher.

Not even close. Look at their WAR’s. Lincecum is worth more than double what he is getting paid. Besides, think about when those two signed their contracts. CC set the market this past offseason, and in that light, when you consider what CC got and what AJ Burnet got, I’d say we got a pretty good deal for Lowe.

Keep in mind, his past few seasons have been in LA – easiest place to pitch, short of SD.

I think someone needs to take a look at home/away splits for a certain Derek Lowe.

Why on earth snub Tex as "too expensive", then turn around and spend the same amount of money on Lowe and Kawakami, when we have Medlen and others in the wings?

So you are willing to pay the cash for 1 player when you can get two players that fill a greater need for the same price (or cheaper, in this case)?

Economics 101 man.

Also, did you even know who Medlen was before this season? If you did, I guarantee that you did not expect him to dominate AAA (with better numbers than Hanson). I doubt even more that you thought he would make it to Atlanta and pitch as well as he has. Saying that we should not have signed Kawakami and Lowe because we had Medlen “waiting in the wings” is about as ridiculous of a statement as I have heard on here.

We have the best SP in the game and one of the worst offenses.

If you find that logic faulty, it’s because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Well, apparently I am not the one who doesn’t know what I am talking about. We have the best SP in the game BECAUSE of the very same 2 guys that you think we should not have signed. Kawakami has been pitching like a #3 starter this season, and he has been our #5. Lowe, while he has struggled at times, has been brilliant at other times. Without those two, our SP is on the same level as the Phillies, or maybe even worse.

Regarding our offense, in case you haven’t noticed, this is not the same offensive team that we had back in June. We led the NL in offense in July, and are in the top 5 or so in August. Tiexiera would not have made a single bit of difference on this team right now. Look at what Tex has done and what LaRoche has done. Now, look at how much they are each getting paid and tell me who you think the better deal is.

1B is not our problem, and even our OF is not our offensive problem right now. Those holes have been filled (quite nicely, I would add). Our offensive holes right now are 3B and C. Until Chipper and McCann pull their collective heads out of their asses and start playing like they always have, our offense will continue to struggle.

Again, I vote in favor of a litmus test.