John Smoltz as a bullpen option for the Braves... maybe
by gondeee on Aug 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
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When one first takes a look at the 8.32 ERA, the .341 batting average against, and the 1.70 WHIP, your first thought is probably not, "those are John Smoltz' 2009 numbers." Those numbers more closely resemble an Oliver Perez, Jamie Moyer type pitcher. But John Smoltz' numbers they are. That's a pretty good reason for the Red Sox to designate him for assignment, it's also a pretty good reason why no one claimed him and his contract on waivers, and it's probably a pretty good reason why John Smoltz may not get a chance to pitch for any other major league team this year... or is it?
The biggest questions here is, "does Smoltz have any value left in his right arm?" After all this is a guy who posted a 2.57 ERA before getting hurt last year. And really, he posted an 0.78 ERA in his first 4 starts before trying to pitch through an injury. Surely a talent like that just doesn't dry up.
The answer is probably not. There is still some value left in that right arm of John Smoltz, but it's not the starting pitching type of value. While batters hit .341 off of Smoltz when he was in the game, they only hit .267 in his first inning of work, and .185 in his second inning of work (after that it gets rather ugly). This tells me that maybe he is still an effective pitcher in one and two inning stints. The .267 first inning average against is just about as good as every one of our relievers, and better than some.
So there you have it. John Smoltz should return to the Braves as a reliever. Could it happen? Maybe. There are a lot of things in the way, though. Smoltz has said in the past that relieving puts more stress on his pitching arm than starting. But if that's his only choice, would he consent? Can he get past any hard feelings that he may have towards the homeboys upstairs? He'll have to at some point when we retire his number.
There's also the Bobby Cox factor. A phone call or two from the veteran skipper and Smoltz may be convinced that the Braves bullpen is the best place for him. Frank Wren may also want to mend some fences and patch things over with one of the greats.
The real reason the Braves should take a chance on Smoltz is that there still is a chance that he can pitch like the guy he used to be (with Smoltz there is always a chance). So I say let all the pieces fall into place and when the Red Sox release him in a few days, let the Braves be prepared to welcome John Smoltz back into the friendly confines of the Turner Field bullpen. If Smoltz still wants to pitch, it may be his only option.
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"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Aug 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would make since to maybe add him to the pen in September. It would give him a little more time for his arm to heal. We wouldn’t have to depend on him taking up one of the 25 man roster spots. He would get to retire as a Brave.
There are some teams that may be interested in adding Smoltz to their 25 man staffs. Given the choice, Smoltz would probably want to have a chance to participate in any games that a playoff team would be in. To do this he would have to be on the 25 man prior to Sept 1st I believe.
by niekromurphy on Aug 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.overthemonster.com/2009/8/12/986838/john-smoltz-refuses-assignment-to
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
~Earl Wilson
by BeantownVol on Aug 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t get the past the first comment on the page. “Smoltz and a prospect for JJ Hardy.” I was just speechless at the point.
by dlkinser86 on Aug 12, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you know
the rest of MLB is just one big farm system for the Sawx and the Yanks.
by Yakker on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still laughing at Youk getting thrown to the ground.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
by TradeAndruw on Aug 12, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
If you’re going to charge the mound on what looked like an unintentional pitch (I understand the situation but still), throw your helmet at the guy, and have a smaller pitcher running backwards, you’d better not get thrown to the ground like that. Not only did he look like a goon on that play, but he looked pathetic.
by was385 on Aug 12, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in.
I don’t think it would be a bad move to see if he can do something.
by nuftjedi on Aug 12, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Against
Smoltz is a Braves legend. Always will be. Looking at it now, i think it was good for the Braves that he went to Boston and sucked. Many great players simply don’t know when to quit, and Smoltz appears to have joined that unfortunate group. Having him go to Boston and find out he didn’t have it made it easier on Braves fans, because we didn’t have to watch one of our best franchise pitchers get shelled around and eventually cut. Some other team and its fans got to do that.
If Smoltz comes back and isn’t successful, then Wren and Bobby are gonna have to do the same thing they did with Glavine, and i don’t think Bobby will want to do that, and I certainly don’t wanna have to see it unfold.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Aug 12, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I considered that point, and was going to put it in the article, but I just couldn’t word it in an intelligent way. You’ve done a good job, rec’d. And I totally agree with that point, though I agree with mine as well. I’m torrrrrnn…..
by gondeee on Aug 12, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a move that could play out either direction as the Kotchman/LaRoche trade did. Smoltz could become an extra arm in the BP and give us some success and at the end of the season, he could realize he’s washed up and retire a Brave. Or he could come suck and then for some reason think he still has more seasons left in him, and yes, our FO will have to look like the bad guys again, releasing a Brave legend. So who knows?
by Gage23 on Aug 16, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Smoltz
I Would Like To See john Back At Atlanta And Retire A Brave. That’s Where He Got His Wins At.
by jayball on Aug 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen jayball.
I’m with you on this one.
by Sparhawk on Aug 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re trying to win a division here. This isn’t Antiques Roadshow. Sentimental value means nothing.
We have plenty of RH relief pitching already, especially with Carlyle set to comeback soon.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What RH relief? Soriano and Moylan are the only ones I trust. And we don’t have a RH strikeout pitcher besides Soriano.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
by TradeAndruw on Aug 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you don’t trust Medlen, Carlyle, and Hudson?
by John Holton on Aug 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hudson and Carlye aren’t even on the team yet. I like Medlen starting or in long relief.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
by TradeAndruw on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t have a RH strikeout pitcher besides Soriano?
Kris Medlen disagrees, emphatically.
Since the break: 13.2 IP, 11 H, 2 ER, 0 HR, 2 BB 15 K 1.32 ERA, 0.95 WHIP .216 BAA
We’ve got 5 guys I trust (three righties, two lefties), and that’s before we consider Carlyle who has looked awfully good at AAA. With Hudson on his way back I think our ’pen is pretty stout right now.
How about the part where our ’pen has a 2.66 ERA since the break, holding opponents to a .612 OPS with over a K an inning?
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad at least someone has noticed the sick month Medlen’s had since the ASB.
by Yakker on Aug 12, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love our pen but they have had too many innings on them.
Smoltz will help eat some of those inings and it will be nice to have him for hopefully his last season
by jvvenez on Aug 13, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if our pen has too many innings on them, I don’t ever want them to not have enough again! They have been lights out lately (except for Soriano). Our pen is good.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry, but 2009 Carlyle is still inferior to 2009 Smoltz. Carlyle was terrible before he went to the DL.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Aug 12, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had untreated diabetes! I mean really? The guy had no energy and you expect him to be good?
The guy has a 0.00 ERA in 8.2 IP with only 5 hits, no walks allowed and 13 Ks. I think he’s ready to contribute at the back end off our ’pen.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Smoltz is still coming back from shoulder surgery
I guess I don’t understand making excuses for Carlyle’s awfulness and discounting excuses for Smoltz’ awfulness. I mean, the last time Smoltz was healthy, he was one of the 10 or 20 best starters in MLB. Carlyle, though useful, has never been, nor will ever be that good.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Aug 12, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he had untreated diabetes and he’s not 42 yrs old. Carlyle is healthy now, and we won’t have to take on any extra contract or give anything away to get him. He’s a better option that we already control.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring up Jo-Jo Reyes instead. He’d probably be more successful than Smoltz at this point. Yeah, he gave us loads of wonderful moments, he might be the greatest Braves pitcher of all time, but the Braves are in a pennant race and John is not going to help. There’s a reason the Braves low-balled him last winter and that the Red Sox DFA’ed him—his career is over.
by John Holton on Aug 12, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His presence alone would be worth something in a stretch run. What’s the harm in letting him mop up a few games to see if he can cut it?
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
by TradeAndruw on Aug 12, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we don’t have a few games to just dick-dance around with. we need to win.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 13, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"dick-dance"
That’s a funny cartoon on You Tube just waiting to happen.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Aug 13, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about this. He's old, ya know
But I do know I would love to see John successfully closing in the postseason
by esadb on Aug 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Please sign him
I need him on a 2006 Team composite photo. I have everyone else on it but him!
SubParr
by nick9314 on Aug 12, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm down for this if
The big problem I have w/ this is, does he have anything left in the ol’ arm? I’d love to see him in our BP if he still has anything left, then he can retire a Brave. But since he refused to be sent down to AAA, is there any way we can test him out? I mean, if he went, we could send scouts to watch, but what about now? How do we find out if he has anything left? I tell ya one thing, I wouldn’t try to make a trade for him. If he gets cut, so be it, but I certainly don’t want to give up anything for a possiblity.
by ROBravo on Aug 12, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They can have Gress.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
by TradeAndruw on Aug 12, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Smoltz is man enough to come back.
by Sparhawk on Aug 12, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you’re a hall of fame starter/closer you don’t come back to pitch middle relief. Retire.
by dw12 on Aug 12, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s old.
He’s bitter with the Braves organization.
His initial attempt at coming back to the majors this year was gawdawful.
It would bring unneccessary media circus to a team that’s playing the most focused, effective baseball that they have in years.
What are reasons we should not bring back Smoltz for 1000 Alex?
by Fischerking on Aug 12, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
There’s too much bad blood from the Braves letting him and Glavine walk this year for him to return, when I’m sure there will be other offers.
by was385 on Aug 12, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Toughie
But it’s up to the Braves and Smoltz. If they work out a deal, I’ll definitely come out and support him. If not, then I think most of us understand the reservations on the part of the Braves FO and Smoltz’s apprehension to rejoin the team. As far as his contribution…I could see him finding some success as a middle reliever. Just imagine having JJ/Hanson/Vasquez starting a game, followed by whatever combo of Moylan/Smoltz/Gonzalez/Soriano. Medlen hasn’t been half bad at all recently and EOF and Logan are solid…idk, that’s just my thought.
by award6 on Aug 12, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Red Sox pay every last bit of his salary then maybe. That’s a big maybe though. Not sure Smoltz would want to come back to Atlanta and/or go to the ’pen.
by beeswax on Aug 12, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he wants to start he needs to get in touch with the Pirates or Nats.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
by TradeAndruw on Aug 12, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he would be a good presence in the club house to have around again.
by JohnBaRocker4President on Aug 12, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention, and certain young pitcher that we have in our starting rotation.
by dlkinser86 on Aug 12, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A disgruntled former Brave who ripped the organization when he left is certainly a positive influence in the clubhouse.
by John Holton on Aug 12, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 13, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't hurt
His veteran presence alone could help the likes of JJ, Hanson, and Medlen. If the Bravos made the playoffs you can’t tell me you wouldn’t want him to come out of the pen in the 7th. Are you kidding…he would treat it as if its his last time pitching as it probably would be. The man could muster up playoff run if it meant chasing a title to end his career.
by Chesterhighwater on Aug 12, 2009 4:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
it could hurt…we could lose a game if he blows it.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 13, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Wren cut Glavine because he felt he couldn’t get anyone out. Based on Smoltz’s 2009 performances how could you not feel the same way? Is there something I’m missing when I watched his brutal 3-5 inning stints? I only would be cool if they gave him a one day contract to have him retire a Brave. Something like Emmitt Smith and other long time players got. I hope I didn’t come off as to harsh, but I don’t think he would be much help to our pitching staff.
by Walker Wallace on Aug 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is a gamer!! He has more guts than anyone I have ever seen. If anyone could do it he could. When you give someone like that a third chance you most likely will be amazed at the results. Please do it for all Braves fans everywhere!
by SBURROUGHS on Aug 12, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
footlong?
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Aug 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really enjoyed it last year after his surgery when he became an unofficial member of the TV crew with Ront Gant and everyone. He’s a funny guy and adds amazing perspective.
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on Aug 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d be for it if Smoltz didn’t make such a stink in the offseason.
Both Glavine and Smoltz felt they weren’t treated fairly, and where
are they now?
I love em both, but they both had their chance to retire as Braves a
few months ago.
by BravesfaninMontana on Aug 12, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
smoltz still has a lot to give, I believe in him.
by armymen on Aug 12, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah heck, I’m a softie when it comes to Smoltz. I thought he let his emotions get the best of him and exercised some poor judgment in whole contract thing with the front office, but I’m not one who would turn their back on him if he wanted to come back and join our BP. If we could get him a good bargain.
I too think he would have something to offer the young arms in the staff. Hell, it would almost be like having a second pitching coach as a bonus. No doubt he could help our young guys handle the pressure when we make the playoffs.
Plus, the sentimental part of me would love nothing more than to once again see Smoltzie, dressed in the Braves home whites, take the mound to face one more batter.
Then eventually I want him in the booth – he would make a great addition to the Braves broadcasts.
by NCChopper on Aug 12, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe this many people have written off the season to the point where they actually want to have Smoltz do a reunion tour with us.
Did no one watch him pitch this year? He’s been squarely dreadful. He has a 6.01 ERA this year, and that’s including his work at Low-A, AA, and AAA.
There isn’t another pitcher in baseball with a 6.01 ERA that anyone wants in our ‘pen is there? Much less one that’s already 42, and we’d likely have to pay a decent amount of money for?
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bah
At some point I’d like to join this discussion with advanced statistics, but I’m going to work on a fanpost.
Suffice it to say, Smoltz is better than his 8.38 ERA right now because his K rate is impressive, his walk rate is good, he’s not giving up a ton of line drives. He’s been horribly victimized by home runs, and that can largely be attributed to luck. Moreover, he should only improve over time as he’ll get more opportunities to work his secondary pitches. He has a rather large repertoire.
by Bronn on Aug 12, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
This isn’t an instance where one requires the use of advanced statistics. General rule of thumb, if a 42 yr old pitcher is posting an 8.38 ERA after 40 IP you can pretty well know he’s done for. John Smoltz is no exception to this rule. Even with his admittedly pretty bad luck, high HR/FB, and high LOB %, he should have an ERA around 5.00. And I sure as hell don’t want us paying any more for that crap. Tell him to go home, and enjoy retirement.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
I’ll be looking forward to something that doesn’t use era as the sole justification for citing Buddy fucking Carlyle (no offense to timmy3, just sayin) as the reason not to take a chance on Smoltz.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Aug 12, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry, sentimental value is everything. We should go take on Smoltz’s contract so we can watch him fuck up our season the way he has likely fucked up the BoSox chances as the division. Way to think with our heads and not our hearts. I don’t give a damn how good Smoltz was 15 years ago, I don’t care how good he was two years ago, he sucks now.
No one is calling for us to go sign any other pitchers with 8.00 + ERAs because it’s fucking idiotic. There’s simply no competitive justification for us to be paying or playing John Smoltz. The burden of proof is not on those saying Smoltz is washed up; that falls squarely on those trying to argue otherwise. Anyone with an IQ above 85 can figure this out.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're overreacting a bit, IMO
We should go take on Smoltz’s contract so we can watch him fuck up our season the way he has likely fucked up the BoSox chances as the division.
40 innings, no matter how terrible they may be, do not make or break any team’s season.
I’m sorry, sentimental value is everything…Way to think with our heads and not our hearts. I don’t give a damn how good Smoltz was 15 years ago, I don’t care how good he was two years ago, he sucks now.
I’m not being sentimental, his velocity is good (though not great), his K:BB numbers are very good, and I guess I’m banking on him improving as he gains arm strength. Buddy Carlyle (although he’s a nice option to have for bullpen depth) vs. John Smoltz when both are healthy is not even a contest. I think we can agree that Smoltz was pretty darn good to start 2008 at the age of 41 and with a shoulder that required surgery. Perhaps everything has changed, but I’d still take my chances on a pitcher of Smoltz’ caliber over Carlyle because of the potential for greater performance. We apparently disagree. It’s cool.
No one is calling for us to go sign any other pitchers with 8.00 + ERAs because it’s fucking idiotic. There’s simply no competitive justification for us to be paying or playing John Smoltz.
As I stated earlier, his peripheral numbers indicate that he’s been better than his ERA. I don’t think it makes me or others idiotic to think that this is a rough patch that will clear up after he gets a few more innings and gets up to full strength. We may be wrong, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility—can we at least agree on that?
The burden of proof is not on those saying Smoltz is washed up; that falls squarely on those trying to argue otherwise.
I don’t think the court analogy is completely accurate, because this is just a matter of thinking that a formerly dominant pitcher (as recently as May of last season) is worth taking a look at. No one is arguing that we should trade for him, or take on his salary. I think a pitcher of his caliber is worth the pro-rated share of the league minimum, and I don’t think very many of the pitchers on the ML roster are so valuable that they should stand in the way of this type of low-risk/potentially high-reward move.
Anyone with an IQ above 85 can figure this out.
…I think you’re just trying to insult me with this one. It’s cool, I won’t hold it against you because I consider you to be one of the better contributors to this place, and my post obviously came off as insulting/offensive when I did not intend it to be—sorry about that.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Aug 12, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re good. I got a bit pissy… Which was my bad, I was a bit drunk this afternoon, enjoying my day off.
I don’t see us signing him for obvious reasons. I guess I’m excited to get Carlyle back now that we know why he was struggling. The guy had a 3.59 ERA last year, and I think he can add a bit more depth to our ’pen which has already been a major strength lately. His outing in Gwinnett have been very promising.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
40 innings, no matter how terrible they may be, do not make or break any team’s season
See 2007 Mets final game with Glavine on the mound…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 13, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey there, don’t go injecting logic, reason, and statistical evidence in to these things, they have no place here.
by Lennox on Aug 13, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be all for it it.. if...
Smoltz didn’t rip Wren and the organization when they made that incentive laden (low ball) contract offer then his comments after the Glavine situation.
Homeboy upstairs was right.. again..
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Aug 12, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup. My thoughts exactly.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Aug 13, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although he was a great pitcher, I dont think we have room for him. Don’t get me wrong, I loved his fast ball and his wiked slider but I think it will knock some of the younger players from playing, preferably medlen.
by sepulcher on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well technically if Glavine doesn’t find a team next year, he would be retiring as a Brave.
by Walker Wallace on Aug 12, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What he is thinking: I’ll show those Atlanta F-ers what’s up. They will regret the day they didn’t pay me enough! I’ll show them…
What he is thinking: Stupid Red Sox…they want me to go to AAA??? Screw that!!! I’ll go to another team. Then, I will show them. I show these Boston F-ers what’s up. They will regret the day that they DFA’d me! I’ll show them…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
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