Trade Deadline Open Thread
by gondeee on Jul 31, 2009 11:57 AM EDT
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PrintHere is a catch-all post to talk about what you think the Braves should or should not do at the trade deadline. (Rosterbation is allowed, though not encouraged.)
Mark Bowman just twittered this:
It still appears that the Braves will stand pat before today's deadline.
A whole lot of nothing so far, which is fine with me.
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i would cream for this
as long as it took 3 of our prospects from #s 23-28
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I would expect at least the demand of Schafer or Heyward, followed by 2 other prospects.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Rosterbation may be discouraged
But if we landed Dunn, I’d rosterbate until I went blind.
Not that we really need to do anything
But if we do make a deal, let’s just hope it’s either with the Mets or Tigers.
It’d be nice to get a ridiculous rip-off deal at the trade deadline.
Don't be quiet!
Drop Norton
Trade KJ to Oakland for Weurtz as Oakland is looking to move O Cab
Call up Conrad.
Activate Omar.
Send Schafer, Medlen, Kotchman, B. Hicks, and Brandon Jones to San Diego for A. Gonzalez and H. Bell.
how can anyone be serious with a user name of “sparklemotion”????
someone likes cult classic movies.
That would be awesome for us but I don’t see San Diego going for it. I say Medlen, Brandon Jones and another prospect to the Nationals for Dunn. We’ll have him next year in left, McClouth in Center and Schaefer in Right. Dunn will allow us one more year to develop Heyward.
by michaelcooksey on Jul 31, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The Nationals, just like the Padres, wouldnt take anything less than Heyward and a slew of other prospects for Dunn or Gonzalez.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
I am willing to bet they’d take less for Dunn than the Padres would take for Gonzalez based soley on the fact that Dunn’s contract is a lot less friendly and shorter.
by michaelcooksey on Jul 31, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The Fathers have a top prospect in the wings at 1B and the Red Sox and a few other teams have shown some serious interest in Gonzalez – which Towers has listened to. I think we could get him if we include Medlen, Schafer, and Kotchman.
by Sparklemotion on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, but im also sure the Red Sox would have to give up Buchholz and Bard along with 2 other prospects for Gonzalez and thats more than we can afford to offer.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
More realistic:
Freddie Freeman, Randall Delgado, Brett Devall, Jordan Schafer, Low-A/rookie pitcher
FW would choke on his Five Dollar Footlong and laugh uncontrollably.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Please stop the rosterbation you will go blind. That package wouldnt even get us Peavy which Towers wanted to get rid of because of salary. Gonzalez is going to cost a team its top at least 4-5 of its top 10 prospects which Boston is discussing with the Padres. Buchholz, Bard, Masterson, Lowrie and Westmoreland is the start for what its going to take.
Baseball is my life
Dunn over Gonzalez
I would prefer Dunn
Dunn AVG: .276 HR 26 RBI 74 OBP 405
Gonzalez .252 29 59 .394
His contract is shorter and although it pays more, it would get him out quicker and allow Heyward to have an additional year and allow Freeman’s arrival to not be blocked by Gonzalez who is under contract through 2010 as well, but has a very affordable option for 2011 (5.5 million).
by michaelcooksey on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it would HAVE to be...
Schafer
Medlen
Freeman
Robrhrough
for Gonzalez
then KJ and Kotchmann to CWS for Alexei Ramirez and Jordan Danks, OF.
then B. Hicks and B. Jones to KC for R. Mahay and Michael Montgomery, LH
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"then B. Hicks and B. Jones to KC for R. Mahay and Michael Montgomery, LH"
We dont want Hicks and Jones, why would anyone else?
Because a team with common sense would see Jones as a potential XBH machine and someone who can get on base.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
You dont think the Padres look at prospects in other farm systems?
From what ive read, everything Rohrbrough has touched has turned to shit, Medlen isnt as compelling as he was when he was still in AAA and Schafer is injured.
KJ cant hit outside of AAA this year, so the CWS would laugh at that trade offer.
KC might actually bite on that proposal, but why would you want to make it?
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Good Job !
Hey I like the idea !!!
Only part that sucks is losing Medlen and Schafer but I doubt they would want Schafer b/c he is still out w/ a bad wrist.
Good trade ideas I would do them.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I am willing to bet the Braves make a move. I love the way they are always under the radar with business. We do need to make a move though teams that we will be fighting for in the east and wild card have gotten stronger. The Marlins are about to get Nick Johnson, Phillies Lee, Giants Sanchez, Cardinals holliday and the day isn’t over yet. Not that any of the moves make these teams great but it does strengthen their teams. We are going to get a bull pen arm at least.
Baseball is my life
But the Braves did make moves already
McClouth and Church.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
both “under the radar”
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see the Braves make a run at Adrian Gonzalez, but I haven’t seen any indication that they are trying to do anything big like that unfortunately. I’d guess Wren will make a move for a right handed middle reliever, somebody who can share the 7th and 8th inning duties with Moylan this year with the possibility of moving to setup or closer next year. The biggest improvements the Braves will make from here on are likely to be releasing Norton, sending down Hernandez and Valdez, and recalling Infante, Conrad, and Hudson.
Washburn traded to the TIGERS???
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
Yea..
smells like the deal we made with Renteria.
A player over performing his career numbers and gets traded to the Tigers for a great young pitcher and a promising outfielder.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Q. How do you have a post on the Braves trade dealine moves and discouage rosterbation?
What else would there be to talk about
Double true.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
68th and Broadway
step on it sucker.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What you wanna do Chris?
Snack Attack mother-fucker!!!
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Truth be told, none of us no anything about what the Braves are going to do
by Sparklemotion on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave that a “thumbs down”
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Towers may be the dumbest GM of them all...
ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark reports that according to an executive of one club that inquired about both Adrian Gonzalez and Roy Halladay, the asking price on Gonzalez is “astronomical.” And what does “astronomical” mean? “Three times the asking price on Halladay,” the exec said.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
We knew this from the Peavy non-trade
How’s that non-deal looking now Towers?
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s looking like he is the dumbest GM of all!
lol
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
The guy is trying to emulate the Pirates but he wants WAY too much to become like them.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
“…emulate the Pirates…”
well, if you don’t set the bar too high, you won’t fail, right? lol
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, but if he really wants to battle for bottom feeder-ocracy, he should just deal Gonzalez to us for Medlen, Barbaro, and Brandon Jones.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Well
He tried to hold teams hostage for a reasonably priced, young ace with a history of arm injuries and questionable mechanics….
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
lol…touche’
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction: Minaya is the dumbest GM of them all...
From ESPN.com…
Despite all the controversy surrounding the Mets this week, general manager Omar Minaya may still find time to make a deal before the deadline.
“I turned down a couple trades (Wednesday),” Minaya told the New York Daily News. “Believe it or not, some pretty big names were presented. That being said, if you talk to some GMs around the league, I’ve been calling around. We have some ideas.”
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
This is a confusing statement. The METS are turning down trade offers from other teams? Who could the METS possibly have that other teams want?
Also, the part where he says “if you talk to some GMs around the league, I’ve been calling around.”
WTF? Is he trying to PROVE that he makes phone calls, like we don’t believe him or something? It is like a 3rd grader telling a story to his freinds and saying “If you don’t beleive me, ask Bobby. He was there.”
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha…sounds like old dude they just fired, Tony Bernazard, went to Minaya’s School of Hyped Up Egos.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
+1
for making me laugh
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This is probably the best portrayal of Minaya at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c&feature=related
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Congrats
on two lonely island references in one thread.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I got their CD.
Good stuff.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Do you guys know what is good?
The Steak Dip sandwich at Jason’s Deli!
MMMMMMM!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions
A reliever....
I do understand that we have hudson coming into the fold in a few weeks, but I still would not mind getting a reliever who we could control for a few years, such as capps or frasor or qualls. It would come at a price, as these relievers are controllable, but it would give us a quality guy if we were to lose Gonzo and/or soriano, and the draft picks that we would get for one or both of those guys would probably have similar value to the package we would give up to get a new reliever. Just an Idea, probably one that is not going to happen, but still one to at least consider because it can help us this year (adding another arm takes away the wear and tear from our current arms), and as mentioned above, provides us with support next year.
by bravesbeast1985 on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
Zzzz....
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting…
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
O-Cab is gone.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4369219
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Release Greg Norton and replace him with Brandon Jones
Send down Diory Hernandez and call up Chris Burke
That needs to be done before any trade happens. Norton cant catch up to 88 mph fastballs and Diory is nothing more than an offensive liability. Jones would replace Norton as the lefthanded bat off the bench.
I would try to package Jo-Jo Reyes and some A ball prospects for another reliever.
Some names:
Michael Weurtz, Jensen Lewis, Brandon League, Jeremy Accardo, Brandon Morrow, etc.
I know it! Does that count?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point he may as well bat with one hand. He is useless. I would rather pinch hit Chino Cadahia…
by FreeBarryBonds on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson is the LH bat off the bench. Norton is a switch hitter.
JoJo and scraps would not be enough to land any of those pitchers you listed. JoJo should not be considered the centerpiece of any deal.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a pretty big detail
to omit
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
it isn’t on ESPN.com yet…it CAN’T be true!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
for true?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Noe being reported Bowden and Masterson are the main pieces in the deal. Up to 3 other prospects may be in it also
by blitzerlover on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN says Buchholz is involved…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4368061
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
lemme try again
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4368061
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably the same basic package though…
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope so, for Buchholz. Now he can be in a starting rotation like he deserves to be
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
meh
this is a definate “sell high” case, IMO.
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is vastly over-rated. Yeah, he had the no-no…lots of average to below average mlb pitchers had them too.
I think he will be a flop. Just my opinion though.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
and Jonathan Sanchez (I think that was the Giant’s pitcher’s name)
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
bogus
he’s legit
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He is 17-27 with a 5.08 ERA career wise. That is less than legit my friend…
by FreeBarryBonds on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
mlbtv isn't even talking about it
Shitty coverage. Instead we get 20 minutes devoted to George Sherrill…
but he was an Oriole, my 3rd favorite team behind atlanta and washington! That’s a HUGE IMPACT MOVE
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
your two favorite teams are in the same division?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
NVM...
I see the connection now…Richmond.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Braves will always be #1 in my heart because of my childhood, but I still feel for the Nationals. I want the braves to go 162-0 and the Nationals to go 142-20(if Washington played Atlanta 20 times)
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I never got attached to the Nats. I was born and raised in the Hampton Roads area (Poquoson, to be exact), but went to Florida for college in 2003. I really could care less about the Natinals.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The rest of the division
would have a really bad record.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably an arm, leg, and right testicle
by FreeBarryBonds on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s too good and too cheap to trade. if someone wants him i would make them give up everything they have as well.
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
then they shouldnt be trying to sell him then. It is like a house…no matter what you paid for hte house, what you put into it, what it is appraised at or what you think it is worth, it is only worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. In certain economies, you cannot get full return or value for your house.
Towers should set the market instead of trying to chase it.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
worst case scenario they keep him
Best case they get a boat load of prospects. 99.9% chance they wouldn’t get all they want for him, so overall it’s mostly just a waste. I wouldn’t actively pursue trades but listen and tell teams how close their offers are.
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but that isn’t what Towers is doing. He is selling a product that nobody can afford to buy right now. bad business.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i agree
His name should have never even come up in any serious way.
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by RichmondBraves on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i asked Duk at Yahoo what's up with the Braves.
He gave the same answer as everyone else in the world could give. Essentially he said…
You’d be amazed at all the nude pictures that came up when I searched for I dunno
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haha
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
no way…O-cab to the Twins! lol
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN – the worldwide leader in sports, will be last to report this…WWL my ass!
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh…it is much more fun to argue with people who think Frenchy is a good baseball player.
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK, but the Tribe recalled Camona and another OF from the minors…
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
*Carmona
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly…they had a roster spot open from the Lee trade (I think), but they called up another OF too…maybe to replace Martinez, which means they would now have a full roster…hmmm…my brain hurts.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
justin- NAHWAL question: no computer for me tomorrow, where should i put my guesses?
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
well,
I will get tomorrow’s up tonight sometime, so you can post then…if not, just email them to me or someone else. the first question will be Final Score and the third, I have no idea yet.
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
how soon is tonight, because i gotta leave at like 7:30 latest. I love beingJewish
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
lol
fine, just email them to me.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Dag
I was really hoping we would have done something . . . . im not to fond of standing pat while basically every team ahead of us upgrades.
we beat everyone to the punch…they are the ones playing catch-up, not us.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
yup. We also have Infante coming back too.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And Buddy Carlyle!
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
i kinda disagree.
The McLouth move was made out of not wanting to have someone like Blanco as our everyday CF. Nate has been pretty good. Going into the break he was on fire but since then he has been terrible aside from a ..348 OBP he has a .302 SLG leaving him with a .650 and a .208 Batting Average.
Church is a guy who has been just as bad a FYF was when he was here almost. Only difference is Church has a higher OBP but a lower SLG. yea getting on base is nice with some walks but not with a lot of hits.
I dunno i just see both of those deals replacing the production we already had in a sense. McLouth is an upgrade over Schafer but who’s to say Schafer wouldn’t have been putting up similar numbers. His first few days he was destroying the ball and same thing in ST. He injured his wrist in the first week of the season and went down hill from there.
We could use an upgrade at a couple of spots (RF and 1B) IMO as well as getting Acosta out of the pen.
But it’s whatever its 3pm and i doubt something will happen.
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
VMart update
apparently, the Tribe is giving up more than just Martinez…
http://twitter.com/injuryexpert/status/3055512903
I can’t read this (no twitter at work!) but this came from the indians SB open thread.
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
this is what it said
Buchholz to Indians, but there’s more … Ah, we need Billy Mays for the deadline …
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQssF0v8_I4
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He was def the man. That shit is hilarious though. I think Billy would have laughed. A must see for everyone
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
has to be casey kelly then
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
again…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
lol…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoever posted earlier that Towers is the worst GM in baseball
May in fact be on to something. Word is they asked for Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin for Heath Bell. Dude must be batshit crazy.
wasn’t that the rumor from Joe last night, but it also included Stanton… which is odd because the fish balked at a deal for Doc that had that package
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
The Indians’ exact return is not known, but the Red Sox did not include either right-hander Clay Buchholz nor right-hander Daniel Bard in the deal, according to a source.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
Jonathan Mayo says Nick Hagadone is big part of package for vic.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
I would guess that if buckholz is out
that Bowden is in it.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If that's it it's a steal
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I am getting my updates from the indians SB open thread…this was a funny comment I just read there:
If we don’t at least get that Starbucks guy, I’m gonna get completely shitcanned tonight
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
Over the Monster is dead
lame
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s because it would require people who actually know anything about baseball to be redsox fans.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i was supposed to go this sunday but the house we were gonna rent double booked so they took our 2 week vacation and cut out a week… its REALLY annoying
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
That blows.
At least it will be nice and quiet up there. Any time some moron mentions “Da Sawx,” just say “Yeah, that Ortiz news was heartbreaking, wasn’t it? Wonder what they’re going to do about the 04 and 07 titles….”
<chirp, chirp>
For bonus points, you can also throw in:
“Yeah, kinda weird no Red Sox made it into the Mitchell Report. Makes you wonder which other guys might be on that 2003 list…”
it also would require some sort of working knowledge of players on the team that are considered “prospects”
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
well
that was quite a blow for them I’m sure…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the MLB website....
dead or something? I haven’t been able to get it all day.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
and
Hearing Nick Hagadone is big part of package Red Sox are sending to Tribe for V-Mart. 2007 sandwich pick for Boston #mlbtradesalso per Mayo
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
i already covered that one…lol
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have to guess LaRoche would be part of that deal, yes?
I mean, if V-Mart is in town, where does LaRoche fit in?
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
initial rumors had him going to a third team…per espn.com
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves for Norton.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
only if you ask nicely and tell us how hard you worked on typing it.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
look at the wittle face… I spent a whole 10 seconds of my life on that
I worked really hard and my fingers are sore.
Please rec this and green it too.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Tim Goad on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1:35pm: MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo says (via Twitter) pitchers Nick Hagadone and Justin Masterson are in the deal. Gut reaction: nice haul.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
lol…exactly.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice haul
depending on the other pieces. I mean, that alone does not equal v-mart IMO…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
not that great. I mean, how can the Tribe not try to get a Bowden or Lars Anderson in there somewhere?
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and really bad if they don’t.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not like they were in contention this year anyways.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Now they probably wont be for the next few years…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn Sasquatch.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
yeah
looks like the final pieces are still being negotiated, but the framework and major pieces are set.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
for the Tribe’s sake, i hope not!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
or even any MLB-ready talent.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8of00uEVRRA
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Does everyone rosterbate with their.....
left of right hand?
back when I rosterbated, I used both hands.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
left of right?
So, youre asking if we use our left hand in the most round about way possible?
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
I hear there is a guy on TC that.....
can rosterbate without using either of his hands. He is a god among men.
oh shit?
Sources: Dodgers making run at Padre stars — 2:48 p.m.
Even with Indians catcher Victor Martinez headed to the Red Sox, there is still a possibility that the Padres will trade first baseman Adrian Gonzalez.
The Dodgers are making runs at both Gonzalez and Padres closer Heath Bell, either separately or in a blockbuster, according to major-league sources.
If the Dodgers acquired Gonzalez, they presumably would send first baseman James Loney to the Padres or trade him somewhere else.
The Angels also are talking to the Padres about Bell.
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
Manny and A-Gonz in the same lineup
terrifying…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
How far behind am I that…
I just heard them say on MLBTV that Dodgers could be trying to get Adrian Gonzalez perhaps including Bell.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
Not far at all
that just got reported.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
OMFG
First baseman Adam LaRoche becomes expendable for Boston if they complete the Victor Martinez trade; Jon Heyman of SI tells us via Twitter that the Braves are interested. LaRoche came up with the Braves; they traded him to Pittsburgh for Mike Gonzalez in ’07
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
Interest
doesn’t mean anything happened.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
From the Tribe SB:
Heyman is tweeting that the Sox are shopping LaRoche now to make room for Victor….BRING US TOMMY HANSON
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
haha
was taht a red sox fan? They are so silly stupid.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
no…it was a Tribe fan.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
awww
they are still wishing for a 5 star that they didn’t get… so sad…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The ONLY
player the Indians have that we would probably even think of including Hanson in a deal for would be Sizemore.
And I dont think either are on the block.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
IF we were to give up Hanson, I’d want Sizemore and Hafner to start. then start talking
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
Have you seen his position.
He’s a DH, thats basically saying anyone can play better Defense than you.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Trade Kotchman for a LRP and put him at first.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Trade Kotchman for a BP arm and use Laroche at 1st…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
same thing I said, after me...haha
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
+1
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
are you hearing anything interesting?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
V- Mart deal official
according to MLBTR
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
I love it and then trade Laroche or Kotchman for a RF
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
MLBTV just reported Braves are “interested” in LaRoche.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
who would the Sox want?
I got it!!!
Bay, Laroche and Buchholz for Schafer, Medlen and Johnson and Freeman.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Justin
Rosterbating in front of everyone? For shame!
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
it kinda gets me in the mood
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s not what you think!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
when you get hairy palms and go blind, you will only have 1 person to blame…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, we could go after the Rays.
Carl Crawford, BJ Upton, Evan Longoria, and JP Howell
for
Brandon Jones, Freddie Freeman, Jordan Schafer, and Kris Medlen.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
don't forget Kazmir
I hear he’s on the market.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, and Matt Garza too.
Scott Kazmir and Matt Garza
for
Rohrbrough and Buddy Carlyle.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Do it, FW
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade
Norton to the Royals for Tony Pena Jr. and a PS3 with the future consideration of Modern Warfare 2.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
dude
i dont wanna even talk about PS3. My PS3 just died on me. It will play PS2 games but not PS3 or any Blu Ray movies.
What kinda crap is that.
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
But non of my gaming consoles have ever broken. My friends’ always crap out while mine runs til I sell it to get a new one.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
All of the PS consoles
had that problem in early iterations…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
We'd better not give up shit, though.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
That is awesome
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They could just tape a picture of Travis Hafner on each one.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
I could see us giving up a pitching prospect and having Boston paying most of LaRoche’s remaining salary.
Sure, we can see that…but can Boston?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What the F are we going to do with Kotchman and Laroche on our team....
Plus the fact they are both left-handed. Also, the trade deadline ends in 1 hour. Frank Wren better have some Aderol ready if he thinks he can pull a trade in 1 hour.
Just about every 1B is lefty
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Great and Almighty Pujols isnt.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Yeah
but he is the great and mighty pujols. He could knock home runs without arms…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Just use his
forehead.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
or his baby arm.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I am willing to be that he hasn’t waited until the last hour to inquire about people…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
WAIT!!!
What about that 3 team deal we heard about?
Would the Sox trade us Laroche for Kotchman just to ship him to San Diego for A-Gonz?
No
the point in the Sox trading LaRoche is that they don’t need another 1B…it wouldnt make sense to trade him for yet another one.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
you missed it
They send Kotchman to San Diego.
V-Mart is a catcher too ya know
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
not for too much longer, he isn’t.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously doubt
that if the Red Sox could acquire A-Gonz they would put Varitek on the bench
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
wait.
I meant to say that they would be putting Varitek on the bench and V-Mart as the catcher.
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Damm…we are interested in LaRoche?
I wish someone else would have posted this earlier so we could have been talking about it already!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRoche
Sorry, just saw it myself on MLB Trade Rumors. Wonder who we gave up…
lol
no worries! I hope it wasn’t anyone worth much!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we want LaRoche for his magic on the basepaths.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
An inside source told me Hanson has been pulled from his start and James Parr will come up to start instead.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
GTFO
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
No need to tell us that.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
figured
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
you almost made me shit myself.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit, I almost swallowed my gum reading that.
Shame on you. LOL
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Big-League-Stew-live-blog-The-2009-MLB-trading-?urn=mlb,180076
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
link
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
HUH???
Source?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Just released
2:16pm: LaRoche has been traded to the Braves, according to Yahoo’s Gordon Edes.
oh shit we got 40 minutes to trade for a RF or reliever
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
I bet the deal is already in place…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
who is this adam laroche you speak of?
are u guys serious?
or is it a joke?
I do too, is it possible we could keep both?
Can he PH?
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
Or play RF?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
a very sick man
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
he has to start.
Laroche to bench
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes way. Why not?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
because hes better than Kotchman one of them is getting traded
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
What are their WARs this year?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
wonder if we traded him. If so who plays 1B in 2010. Are they banking on Freeman?
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
For Who
How, what , how what. I am so confuzzled.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
oh well
i loved laroche as a brave…he did hit 32 hrs one year
and he has that show with Chipper and is friends with him
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn!
This deadline just exploded after a boring daY!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Someone give Wren a bump of.........
Aderol. or something stronger. He has 40 minutes left!
NONONONONONONONO I HATE JOHN HEYMAN
laroche heded to #braves. kotchman may be out man out.
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
That’s bullshit.
We all know this
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn’t make sense to me.. Why would Boston want to take another 1B if they’re trying to drop a surplus of them? It’s gotta be a minor league package
by grantparkbrave on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Theres no way we install Laroche over Klutchman... right?
He is just about the only guy on the team with a + UZR, and he has been really hot since June. There has to be more too this. Laroche to bench at minimum.
God, I never enjoyed watching Laroche play.
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
I sure as hell hope not
Why does everyone assume he starts?
He’s Adam LaRoche!
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
But that makes no sense either
Point is the Bosox have too many Corner infielders…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Me either…that would be rather dumb, IMO
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
nononononononononononononononononononono
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
i wasn’t expecting to start drinking this early in the day
by grantparkbrave on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never hated him…but if he does this, I will be scratching my head for the first time at a move he has made…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this the same
Kotchman who has 6 HRs this year
You Braves fans have been complaining about power…
In the power department LaRoche is waaay better
Get a grip
What’s next – are half of y’all gonna cry if we land Pujols
Comparing Adam LaRoche to Albert Pujols
is one of the dumbest moves I have seen today.
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK…the VMart trade is pretty high up there!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
its not a comparison
im just puzzled why we are cheering a guy with no power (Kotchman)
because he is one of our best contact hitters who strikes out very seldomly, walks a ton, gets on base a lot and has ++ defense.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
GTFO…none of the intelligent ones have been complaining about Kotch.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It can’t be for kotchman. the red sox only gave up two mediocre minor leaguers to get LaRoche from the Bucs
mediocre at best
If Epstein turns them into Kotchman he’s on steroids.
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Last Half Hour of the 2009 MLB Trade Deadline
Brought to you by eBay.
Kotchman sucks....
get over it. LaRoche is a 2nd half OPS machine too. I need more details though! AHH
GTFO
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Laroche is better than Kotchman just like Francouer is to Church
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I ignored…
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you sir, are an idiot
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the worst batters in the leauge for a 1B.
His bat should play at 2nd base. Maybe catcher.
he has a similar OPS to Laroche…so, what is you point?
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by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We are betting on a huge 2nd half from LaRoche....
which is what he does every year. I still don’t like the trade though.
Comparisom
2009 OPS:
Laroche – .772
Kotchman – .764
UZR:
Laroche : -3.4
Kotchman : +3.2
Factor in the fact that since June Kotchman has been hitting far better then his .764 OPS, you have to think there is more too this.
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
There has to be something more
All we’re basically doing is trading some Average for Power…We have to be getting something out of it. I defn don’t see us needing to help out the Indians or Red Sox, so maybe we are getting a reliever thrown in there as well…
by michaelcooksey on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
In his last 26 Games
Kotchman has a .845 OPS
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly and we would be trading Kotchman while he has a high value
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
High value= more than LaRoche
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck!
Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!v Fuck
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I would sure like to think FW knows something I don't
But I do NOT get this deal
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF!
Are you sure? MLBTR has nothing on that.
7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney
REMEMBER THAT BOYS.
by Scott Coleman on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
its in the corner
there is a NESN thingie with all the trades
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Has to be some sort of flipping going on.
Unless the Braves are banking on Freeman in 2010
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No way we can count on Freddie out of ST in 2010
I dont understand
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
+100
We get the power we needed
I missed LaRoche’s grand slams…
GTFO
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY?
Does anyone have a single fucking clue WHY this would happen?
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No
I mean, I don’t hate hate the trade (may change later), but I just don’t get it…
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
just no reason to make this move
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade
They are both great defenders. Kotch hits for better average and Adam goes for the long ball. Adam is a free agent after the season and Kotch is arbitration eligible. Only thing I can think of is that IF LaRoche leaves after this year when his contract is up, he might be a type B Free Agent and we would get a pick in the supplemental draft.
Not a fucking Clue
LaRoche makes more money too and I’m not sure what his option is for next year, but, I know that Kotchman’s deal for next year would be cheaper too…WTF
Bad Deal....
I think LaRoche is better, but he is a free agent after this year and Kotchman is under control for awhile.
Jesus Christ
We just essentially traded all our prospects in the texas deal for for:
1 year of Tex
1 Year of Kotch
1/2 a year of Laroche
SHIT.
7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney
REMEMBER THAT BOYS.
haha
this
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
For the record
I like LaRoche, but this deal just makes no sense for so many reasons. I understans why the Braves like LaRoche (power, the Braves have none), but the rest of it makes no sense.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
hmm
i keep wondering if either we are getting more in return (Saito would be nice)
Or we are bumping Freeman up to AAA and the AFL to start next year
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Saito included would be nice
or any other solid reliever
by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Mr. Frederick Freeman
You MUST be ready to play by April of 2010
Sincerely,
Frank Wren.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
Dear Mr Jason Heyward
Learn to play 1st
by blitzerlover on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMwKPmsbWE
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
7th?
not ahead of Yunel for sure
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it okay
if i choose not to believe this until the dust settles and something “official” is posted… atleast from an atlanta source
This is unfair pressure for Freddie
He is a stud and definately our future at 1B, but we can’t count on him being ready out of ST next year.
He isn’t a freak like Heyward, I want him to have a little seasoning
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
so true
And he’s 19!
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
MLBTV guy says he “thinks” it means Kochman out – but he didn’t say it as fact.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
if he's wrong
me=on cloud nine
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
true
I would like to keep Kotchman as a late defensive replacement
he’s a better PH than Greg -—- I forgot his last name…
Its Greg DFA.
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REMEMBER THAT BOYS.
by Scott Coleman on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The whole point
was to dump a first baseman…right?
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So would he
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
If this was Laroche/Smoltz for Klutchman
That would be awesome, I dont care
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even know how this deal makes sense. A pending free agent, making more money than Kotch, with a fairly comparable bat, traded straight up for Kotch, who’s under control for much longer?
The monetary aspect of this deal makes zero sense. I can’t see FW making this move, knowing the financial situation of the Braves.
Maybe they he won some kind of bet
And Chipper got to be honorary GM for the daY?
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The move would indicate
That he’s a little more than honorary
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
DOB Blog:
David O’Brien
July 31st, 2009
3:34 pm
LaRoche wouldn’t be as a backup, the rumor that made no sense given his pinch-hitting and left-handedness. They’re getting him as a starter if they get him, and it looks like they are. Kotchman would be dealt away.
Mark Bowman's twitter
If Braves complete deal for LaRoche and it appears they’re very close to doing so, Kotchman won’t necessarily be included in three-way trade
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.
a ray of hope
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t believe it until someone else besides NESN says Klutchman is gone
Yunel is the Queen of Hearts
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