Game 100 Recap: Braves 3, Marlins 4
Proof positive that WALKS KILL will not win baseball games. Pinch hitter Ross Gload took a Rafael Soriano fastball over the right field wall for a no-doubt walk-off homerun to give the Marlins a win in game-1 of the series against the Braves. Garret Anderson had given the Braves the lead in the top of the ninth with a solo homerun, but Soriano could not close the door. He may have been a bit rusty, having not pitched in four days, or he could have felt he had to groove one after not getting several close calls on borderline pitches -- part of what led to a 4-pitch leadoff walk in the ninth inning.
Jair Jurrjens pitched well for Atlanta, the only two runs coming on a misplayed ball or a ball that was lost in the lights in the third inning. Both starting pitchers pitched their way out of jams, especially Jurrjens who had very few easy innings. Our bats just didn't get the job done tonight when they had the chance, and an unfortunate outing by Soriano ultimately surrendered the lead and the win.
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absolutely kills our playoff chances
with josh johnson going against us tomorrow. SHIT!
by adamlawson on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way this 1 loss kills our playoff chances!
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by HEYJUDE on Jul 28, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just let the haters hate and the nay-sayers neigh.
They will be gone when we start winning again anyway.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this isn’t the nudge down the slippery slope.
by bravos1984 on Jul 28, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So pissed off.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jul 28, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
46-2 when leading after 8 innings it was an aberration i wont worry about it. I still feel good about our chances to make the playoffs. Best ERA in majors. Top 3 in every offemsive category in July.
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 28, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But the team wasn’t leading after 8 innings.
by bigjoe on Jul 28, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we were..
Fuga HR was after the 8th. That made it 3-2.
by esadb on Jul 28, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The record implies that going into the 9th with the team leading, their record was 46-2. Everything after that is gravy.
by bigjoe on Jul 29, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
62 games left
Let’s let another 10 or so pass before we decide the season is over, shall we?
At any rate, Ross Gload just took a good pitch and hammered it. It was a hitter’s count, so he was looking for a fastball, and Soriano didn’t want to walk him, so he deliver a fastball. It was right where you’d want it, low and away but in the strike zone, 94 MPH, but Gload was all over it.
Don’t worry, we’re still got plenty of games left to beat up on this Marlins team.
by Bronn on Jul 28, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano's only 2nd blown save this year.
If he pitches as well the rest of the year as he has for us already, I’ll take it.
We had opportunities in the game we didn’t take advantage of and the pint-sized ump did us no favors in his inability to see, much less call an accurate strike zone.
It’s only 1 game and we still have the skills to take this series….IF we execute.
No doom and gloom here with so much of the season left.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
by NCChopper on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Three goddamn fanposts and a mainpage story within a half hour after the game ends? Jesus christ people, bust out the paper bags.
by bigjoe on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t seen you in the game-threads in quite some time…perhaps you are wise, as my head almost exploded tonight.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 28, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try to avoid them…its getting rough around here
by bigjoe on Jul 29, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed. i was glad i hibernated the computer during the middle of the game, as we had a Norton AB and a Mike Gonzalez appearance. Unfotunately, i turned it back on after Anderson’s homer.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Jul 29, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we can’t be the marlins guys, its that simple, and its our doom
by fizzbot on Jul 28, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes we can it was a walkoff get over it and root for the Braves tomorrow
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget the Marlins. Playing down to the Nats is what will kill us.
by bravos1984 on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we will beat them too we are a good team
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 28, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devastating loss
Can’t afford these type of losses. Had chances on offense, just didn’t deliver. Seems to me the Braves swung at a lot of bad pitches tonight.
by Braves fan since 1966 on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does any one else notice that McCann seems to be going through a Jekyll/Hyde deal right about now?
by bravos1984 on Jul 28, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Norton needs to go!
I don’t know who made the decision to keep Norton and send Conrad to AAA, but that was a piss poor decision. Since Conrad was sent down, Norton has had 3 at bats. Struck out twice and hit into a double play. 4 outs in three at bats. How can it be justified keeping a guy hitting .120 over a guy hiotting .345? Conrad also has more homers and RBIs in lots less at bats!
Conrad is also a switch hitter, and has more sock than Norton. Defensively Norton is a huge liability wherever he plays whereas Conrad could play second and probably third. It has been said that Norton will be DFAed when Infante comes back That is at least as couple of more weeks. The Braves need to win an overwhelming amount of their games to make postseason. So they need to have their BEST players available. Norton ain’t one of them. IMO they can’t afford to carry him another two weeks.
Bennett ain’t one of their best players either, but you know BC will put him in there if he is allowed back on the ML roster. He has pitched twice in his rehab assignment and gave up 2 runs in one inning both times for a sparkling ERA of 18.00. Those kinds of decisions drive me crazy, but the Braves make them time and time again!
by Braves fan since 1966 on Jul 28, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you have been a Brave’s fan for almost 20 years longer than I have been alive…lol.
But, Norton has only had 60 plate appearances this season. In that time, he has 11 walks. He has had VERY few opportunities.
Sure, when he has had an opportunity, he has not delivered. However, if you remember, Chipper Jones went through a very similar slump earlier this season.
Look at Norton’s career numbers. He is a decent MLB hitter. He doesn’t have a dazzling average, but his OBP and his OPS are respectable enough.
I do think sending Conrad down in favor of Norton was a mistake, but I have not given up on Norton yet. Just look at what he did last year. He can obviously deliver. He just needs to find his mojo again.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 28, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
Regardless of what he did last year right now we are in a play off race and cannot afford ANY kind of player to be still trying to figure it out.
by drumzalicious on Jul 29, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At some point, a player gets too old to catch up to good fastballs, and right now pitchers are getting Norton out with (not even good) fastballs. Time to go.
by gondeee on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Jul 29, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the sig
Galifanikas is the shit.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 29, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a "how to" guide for being a modern Braves fan:
Step 1: type the phrase “relax people it’s only one game” into a document
Step 2: copy and paste that phrase 80-85 times throughout the season
Step 3: repeat for several years
Got it?
Good, now will all of you assholes stop bringing up things like heart, determination, strategy and basic little league fundamentals and just sit back, crack open a beer and enjoy the fact that you’re not one of those dumb schmuck Liberty Media stockholders that has to watch $100 million get flushed down the drain.
by DCP916 on Jul 28, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer this "guide"
Step 1: After a Brave’s loss, create an account on TalkinChop.com
Step 2: Wait the required amount of time to create a fanpost
Step 3: Wait until the next loss, jump into the game thread and say things like “Shit, Fuck, this sucks! Our team sucks! Soriano Sucks! Chipper Sucks”
Step 4: Create fanpost saying the same thing and that since we are now 3 games out of the Wild Card race in July, our season is over.
Step 5: Ignore all stats and logical discussions that point to evidence that indicates you and your opinions are wrong, and keep on talking about how this team lacks heart and determination, and how our manager sucks, and our hitting coach sucks and how our players suck and how our front office sucks.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 28, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
good points justincredubil02 u seem to be optimistic like myself and others on here. I can’t stand all the people knocking the Braves after 1 loss when it was an aberration I mean 46-2 when leading after 8 innings is probaly best in the majors. If u guys want to knock the team then find a new one and don’t jump on our bandwagon when we make the playoffs and win the whole fuckin thing.
by Wanna Hate 14 Straight on Jul 28, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn’t optimism. It is rational thinking. And yeah, I can’t stand it either…geez, it isn’t even tomorrow yet and we have ridiculous fanposts already.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 28, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post gets a shiny gold star sticker
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like everyone, I was frustrated after tonight’s loss, and after Soriano blew the save, I said in the main thread, “Soriano better be able to explain himself,” drawing the ire from several of the regular posters on here. After thinking about it some more, you guys are probably right, but I was surprised to hear David O’Brien say this in his blog after the game:
“So tonight, Soriano sounded like Yunel. Here were a handful of reporters, including a couple of Latin reporters from Miami, waiting 20 minutes to talk to him after we’d already gotten the manager and J.J., and Soriano starts in with, I just want to say that you guys don’t ever talk to me all year but now you want to talk to me?, or words to that effect. So he declines to speak about the game at all…Oh, well. What are you gonna do? When I said, do you want us to ask you each time after you pitch, good or bad, how you felt, he said, no, you don’t need to do that because he’s not that kind of guy…Part of the job, bro. Smoltz understood that perfectly when he closed. You don’t ask the guy after all 40-50 or more of his successful saves, ‘How’d you feel?’ You ask him after a particularly strong performance or after a blown save or otherwise bad performance. Period. Nature of the closer job.”
I’m not sure I’d go as far as DOB, but I thought it was odd that this ended up happening after we had talked about it in the game thread.
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on Jul 28, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean
Soriano made it sound like he is NEVER interviewed after a game. even ones in which he comes in and does amazing.
I believe he was more aggravated with that than taking ownership for what happened tonight..
by drumzalicious on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I didnt get to see the game but i kinda figured Soriano would have a bad game sooner or later he was on a tremendous roll and no one really sustains that for an entire season.
He’s still a great pitcher but he is also human. I also feel as tho Bobby should have given him at least one game during the Brewer’s series just like he gave Moylan and Gonzo games to pitch. Although he is the closer you want him to stay a bit fresh and not develop TOO much rust.
Also from some comments it looks like what I saw happening earlier in the game had an adverse effect on BOTH teams and contributed heavily to the outcome of this game. Im talking about the umpire with a strike zone the size of a peanut. When the umpire isnt calling any pitches on the corners then the pitchers have no choice but to throw it in the heart of the plate and they get hit.
by drumzalicious on Jul 29, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano was
squeezed big time last night. Of the 10-12 pitches he threw 3 or 4 were strikes called balls. He was frustrated and laid a 93-94 mph fastball dead center out of frustration and it was crushed. His stuff was very good,it happens.Next game…..
by mikie baseball on Jul 29, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really thats the story of our season. Almost but not quite, and the umpires of major league baseball owe us 10 games, and 1st place in the NL east.
Baseball is my life
by That a boy on Jul 29, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least
This puts things in perspective a bit for the people freaking out when Gonzo nicked a batter and gave up an infield single. NOBODY is perfect, not even our ace reliever who’s been awesome all year.
by Bronn on Jul 29, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade Gonzo for Pat venditte
I wish… even though it doesnt make much sense
by esadb on Jul 29, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to have "Bandwagoners.....
At least that means we are winning? Of course they will complain that is the nature of them. Always looking for an excuse to jump off and never looking for a reason to stay! What impressed me with this loss was that FUGA delivered! This is a Huge impact…of course the Norton issue needs to be resolved…I say he has a week…or at least this Florida series…because the Dodgers are up next and we will probably be in some close games with them.
by bravestatoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow Yunel makes so many boneheaded plays, like that one time he threw a strike to get the runner at first when he turned his back for a second. But yeah he is just an idiot out there, on the field he just sucks. I cant count how many outs he has cost us in the field trade him before friday so I can relax.
Baseball is my life
by That a boy on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one asked me, but what the heck..
(posting it here because no one visits the game threads once it’s over)
What I’ve noticed lately about the Game Threads is…
…several of the ones who posted in them when I first arrived are rarely seen anymore. There was a broohaha about too much negativity and the ranks diminished. I for one, believe there has been a determined effort by those of us left posting regularly to be more positive. Realistic but positive.
We (caveat: regular posters) always root for the Braves to do well and when there’s a missed play, crap for luck with a dinky single from a broken bat etc. there is understandable momentary posts of “UGH” (usually worse) which are natural reactions to something that hurts your team, but then – it’s on to the next inning rooting for the Braves to come back or do better. Now, if you only show up to slap the wrists of those posters you feel are ignorant and move on, you’ve likely missed that.
However, I’ve also noticed that when things aren’t going well, suddenly there’s an influx of posters on the thread that were not commenting during the game at all that appear in what it seems solely to bitch. Like last night’s 9th unfortunate ending. Maybe this is temporary (when does school start back?) but I for one hope it’s not going to be the norm. I think a lot of what’s posted posted is purely to trigger replies and arguments thus I personally IGNORE them and not fuel the exchange.
I’m pretty new around here and I don’t want to step on anyone’s toes…but there’s definitely a pecking order. And, some seem to post these days for the sole purpose of knocking people they don’t agree with down a peg or to remind them of how little they think they know. There is a way to get points across without being so abrasive, it’s takes effort but would make the overall experience around here better.
But then I’m a chick- what could I know. I do miss some of y’all on the Game Threads.
Last Night:
I stand by my comment earlier that Soriano isn’t the devil because he gave up only his 2nd save this year. He had 28 appearances since the last time he gave up a homer. And I DO blame the mini-ump for making both pitchers throw more pitches than they should have and for putting balls in places they didn’t want to in order to try to get a call.
I hope we win tonight. We can still salvage this series and get into the playoffs – hell it ain’t even August yet.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
by NCChopper on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Well said. And Kudos again for the Jurrjens K. Your best work yet. Your hard work to entertain everyone is a definite bright spot in the game threads.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Jul 29, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks 10-4, finding and fitting that little Braves cap on the surgeon was a challenge LOL.
Who knows, maybe I’ve run the oldies off the threads with the silliness.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich
by NCChopper on Jul 29, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no "oldie", but...
Your graphics are definitely one good thing the game threads have going for them.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 29, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Choppah!!!!
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 29, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to absolutely love game day threads, they were fun. Now they are not. I rarely come to Talking Chop anymore because of the sheer ridiculousness and ignorance of many posters on this website. I guess that is the price of popularity. I for one have noticed that some of the best and longest tenured posters no longer visit and I do believe they are being chased away.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i miss your musk.
My routine has kinda become getting in early on the threads, then putting the laptop away during the middle innings, then getting back on if the game is close or the Braves are winning. Part of this is due to the fact that i’ve been in front of a computer most of the day at work, and i don’t feel like sitting with one in my lap for 3 hours. (i hear its bad for your sperm count). The second is, if things are going badly, i don’t really care to read how many different ways you can drop f-bombs regarding the Braves. Or see if the Guiness World Record for Most Negative One Sentence Statements In a Blog has been broken.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have joined in on a couple game threads of late and were enjoying them to a point. Immediately following any play that hurt the Braves’ chances of winning there soon followed at least one and often several quite profane comments. I left yesterday in the middle of the game for that very reason. While I certainly understand the need and desire to vent frustrations over certain circumstances it shouldn’t require dropping a series of “F” bombs and GD’s to get the point across.
by Mountngrown on Jul 29, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this^
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by HEYJUDE on Jul 29, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post
Shiny gold sticker here, too.
Here’s the irony – part of the reluctance most people get to looking at an OT after the fact is the fact that the OTs are generating upwards of 600+ comments each game. Previous seasons were lucky to see a break in 100 at first, and then 300. 2009 has seen several threads exceed 1,000 comments – but since they were losses, about 66% were “oh noes we suck” kind of remarks. So hardware be damned, they weren’t all that difficult to hop in the day after to see what potentially entertaining and/or flammable based on the situation kind of discussion were going on.
The rest of your observations are quite true, and some, things that have been duly noted and/or said before in the past. And because there’s really no way to ultimately stop the influx of negative Nancys and OMGWLTs (omg we lost trolls) altogether aside from doing some illegal IP tracking, and finding out where these people live, go over there, and beat them into oblivion a la Jay and Silent Bob, most people choose to ignore, and then withdraw their own participation.
Re: pecking order – there’s as much of a pecking order as you want to believe there’s one. It doesn’t matter if it’s your first post or 2000th post, nobody can knock down intelligence and/or a well written, justified, and backed up remark.
As for yourself, never belittle yourself for being a chick although I know that’s just a sarcastic remark to begin with. And as far as I’m concerned, you can drop the “i’m new” thing, because you’ve obviously demonstrated your own resolve at suffering with the rest of us when we’re down, and putting forth the fight to keep hope alive and morale high, and sticking around to do such.
Keep up the good posting.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly!!!
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by HEYJUDE on Jul 29, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone remember when the game threads consisted of myself, royhobbs, Smoltz’s Beard, Lizziebeth, jug, and mvandonsel? Anyone? Those were the days. So much off topic hijinx
by bigjoe on Jul 29, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes…i remember!
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jurrjens shoulkd have thrown more changeups last night
he had a good one going, too many fastballs.
Chipper is finally on pace to hit 20+ HR.
3 games out with 62 to go, why the panic button? You panic when there are 10 games left.
by nathan rothschild on Jul 29, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Last night's game
JERRY MEALS controlled the game from start to finish with his myopic view of the strike zone. That worked both ways however judging from the MARLINS feed with the protestations of the announcers, and the howls of anguish from the fans in the background. So why didn’t our offense do the job, knowing what pitchers on both sides needed to do to get outs? Could it be a lack of patience at the plate caused us to have just ONE walk against SEVEN strike-outs? What the blazes is the hitting coach staff teaching these guys anyway? Inquiring minds want to know.
by richbrave on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano is going to give up his fair share of HRs. Its the nature of the beast, with his relatively straight fastball, throwing 95+, and living up in the K zone.
I wonder if this is going to convince Wren to get another reliever before the deadline?
by soup du jour on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doubt it
he knows the umpire was sucking last night so he will write it off as a fluke night.
by drumzalicious on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
This one hurt. I guess even Jesus had an off-night.
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 29, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we didnt lose the game, the freaking umpires gave it to the marlins. That ump was not calling balls or strikes correctly.
by sepulcher on Jul 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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