What the Braves need to do to make the playoffs
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After the Braves took 3 out of 4 from the Mets in overall dominant fashion, I began to look at the overall playoff picture. With every team around the 90 game mark, there's a plenty large enough sample size with which to make predictions. I'm going to ignore what the predictions say about the Braves for the most part and focus on what they need to do. In the National League, the Nationals are truly out of it and have long been so. Every prediction metric I can find has them at 0% to make the playoffs.
Let's assume every team below 5% to make the playoffs has been effectively elimited. PECOTA says that, in additional to the Nationals, the Padres, Pirates, Reds, Mets, and Marlins are effectively eliminated. The Mets are just getting weaker at this point-we saw the line-up they were fielding against us in the last two games of that series. Fernando Nieve was just added to the DL, Gary Sheffield is still going to need some rest, and they're still missing three of their 4 best hitter-Delgado should be back by mid-August, there's no timeframe on Beltran, and Reyes may have suffered a setback recently. The Marlins are more interesting as they are only 1 game below .500, but PECOTA doesn't like that they're outperforming their pythagorean W/L, and it gets even more extreme on their second and third order predictions (that is, equivalent runs/runs allowed, and then adjusted for level of competition)
I took a look at BP's standard Postseason Odds Report, and also their PECOTA-Adjusted version.
I'll spare you my attempts to get a table inserted here properly and just give you the gist. In the standard report, the Phillies are expected to win 90 games. In the adjusted version, they're expected to win 91.6. In both versions, the Rockies are expected to win the wild card at about 88-89 wins (though the average Wild Card winner varies a bit more, around 91 wins) That has the Braves looking at 90 wins, minimum, with 92 being the safe number.
One thing that's interesting about the Braves on BP is their Current adjusted Standings. In brief, Pythagorean W/L, which is just based on runs scored versus runs allowed, has the Braves 1 game better and the Phillies 1 game worse, so that the Braves are only 4.5 back instead of 6.5. When they adjust for EqR/EqRA (the formula used for EqR is pretty complicated, so I'll leave it out) the Braves are leading the division (49-43). This indicates that the Phillies' pitching has perhaps been a bit lucky this year, which is supported if you look at team FIP on Fangraphs. They're outperforming their FIP by 0.24, which, combined with the Braves' trailing their FIP by 0.11, predicts a bit of room for the Braves to close the gap.
Now for a look at the Braves' remaining schedule, keeping in mind that they likely need 90-92 wins in order to make the playoffs They need to go 44-26 to reach 90 wins-that's a winning % of 63 over the rest of the season. They have a lot of games left against the NL East, which is very good news because of the weakness of the East. They play 9 games against the Nationals, 9 against the Mets, 13(!) against the Marlins, and 9 against the Phillies. That's 40 games, constituting well over half of their remaining schedule.
Against the Nationals, the Braves are only 5-4, but they need to be able to take a minimum of 7 wins from the Nationals (this puts them at 53). Against the Marlins, a losing team expected to get worse, the Braves need 9 wins (62). Against the Mets, they should at least try to win every series, so they need 6 wins (67). And they can't afford losing ground to the Phillies in head to head games, so they need a minimum of 5 wins there-6 would be much better. (72).
That leaves 30 games the Braves play against the rest of the rest of the NL, in which they'll have to go 18-12. This is a tough feat, since 17 games will be played against teams that currently have winning records, and 3 against a team that's currently .500 (the Astros), leaving only 10 games against losing teams to pick up. What's most daunting is that the Braves have 7 games left against the NL-best Dodgers. They need to play around .500 (9-8) against the winning teams, and then beat up on the rest of these teams (9-4).
In short, the path to the playoffs is pretty tough. Braves will definitely need to beat up on the Nats and Marlins when they get the opportunity.
This FanPost does not express the views or opinions of Talking Chop.
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Awesome info. I loved how you broke it all down! Your right the Braves have a tough road ahead of them, but I believe they can do it. With Esco moved down, they now have a line up that will produce and produce often. Go Braves!!
Great analysis..Didnt know baseball can be so scientific. I will def. keep close taps to those numbers.
by AlRoBraves95 on Jul 21, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
If we play the Phillies well,
The division title may require fewer wins than the Wild Card.
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
I believe we are 8-2 against them this year so far.It’s something like that.We keep that up and play well against them when we play each other then you could be right on the we may require fewer wins to win the divison.
7-2. But the way they’re going right now, they could be really tough. Jimmy Rollins is hitting really well, finally, and Shane Victorino is hitting better than he was earlier in the year…they’re going to be tough. We’re not going to get to Brett Myers again, so I hope we still get a chance to see Jamie Moyer and Joe Blanton a couple of times.
Any way we can organize a midseason WBC?
To get Rollins off again?
Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.
by VivaLosBravos on Jul 20, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a lot of confidence against the Phillies, even now. We have been dominating them all season (remember the 3rd game of the season REALLY should have been a win, so in my mind, we are practically 8-1 against them).
by McGriff the Crime Dog on Jul 21, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Great Work!
I agree that it’s a tough road, but our team is getting better and everyone else but the Phils is our division is getting worse. If we can manage to work the Phils a bit, then we may be able to win the crown with less than 92 wins…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
The Phillies are extremely hot right now. I can’t see them being able to keep up this hot streak for the rest of the season. We’ve been playing great ball that should’ve made up for more ground, but because of the Phillies unlikely winning streak, we still remain 6.5 games back. I’m going to assume that at some point in the near future, the caliber of baseball the Phillies have been playing will decrease and we will be able to catch some ground.
As far as the WC goes, I do see us being in contention. There are several other teams in the race, but we shouldn’t rule ourselves out just yet.
Mike and Mike
If you listened to ESPN radio this morning you’d know that the division has already won by Philadelphia.
I think the amount of games left, especially against the Phillies, helps things out. The Braves have to take care of business (no more losing 2 of 3 to cellar teams). I do think that the Braves are a team that is built to challenge the Phillies in their own park. We have two ground ball pitchers in Lowe and Jurrjens and two strikeout pitchers in Vazquez and Hanson. That keeps the ball in the yard and takes away the most dangerous part of the Phil’s offense…the long ball.
I would like to see it happen but it is unlikely !
I don’t want the Braves to get a another rental play like they did with TEX an see him leave a year later. We need players like Nate which was a great trade that we can control for a few years. We still need a power bat an really only spot it would fit would be first base. However no way I would want LaRoche back over Kotchman !! Never liked LaRoche ever.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jul 20, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
Beating up the Giants this series (aka a sweep) would go a long ways in closing the wild card gap. I also think the two most important matchups going forward will be our nine versus Washington and nine versus Philly. If we beat Philly 7-2 in the next nine as well, that could very well put us ahead of them at the end of the season. The nine against the Nats are important because those are easy wins, if we falter in those series we’re digging a hole that might be too steep to get out of
by McCann's the Man on Jul 21, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
Good stuff, and nice way to break it down.
One thing that isn’t taken into account here is trades. If Philly does get Halladay, then I think the road gets much tougher, especially for the division win. Likewise if the Giants or Cardinals pick up a bat or two. But its nice to know where we stand as of right now. Kudos!
No, the possibility of trades isn’t taken into account, and acquiring Halladay would give Philly another really good starting pitcher. But it probably only improves them by about 2 wins if they have to give up J.A. Happ.
But the other perspective on trades is that the weak teams tend to send out their major league talent to contenders, so the weak teams get weaker. If the Marlins or Nationals start selling a few of their pieces, that’s good news for the Braves since they have so many opportunities to beat those weaker teams.
Well, ‘only’ is a bit of an understatement, but I get what you’re saying. And really, its impossible to say who’s gonna get traded or when; and it looks like the Phillies might puss out and not go after Halladay…one can only hope.
by soup du jour on Jul 22, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
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Loved these…good ending…The stats are strong..“Holty” have faith if we get a "rental’ player it will be ok but it has to be one that fills the need for a big bat and we can not give away the farm! “Soup” hit the nail! We can not let this happen we have to be ready to better their offer…
Also it would have been nice to see how the Phils produce runs against top pitching…when they face a pitcher that has an ERA of about 3.00 or lower.

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