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The Braves may have already agreed to terms with their first round pick, Mike Minor

From Baseball Prospectus' Kevin Goldstein, we get this note that could explain why a lot of first round picks have yet to sign this year, including the Braves first round pick, Mike Minor:

What they might be waiting for is simply a deal that matches last year's slot, as opposed to the ten percent reductions, which in the cases of Minor and Leake are differences approaching $250,000, not exactly a trivial sum of money. Still it's enough to create either a situation [where] there is a stalemate between the team and the player, or in many cases, there may already be a deal in place, but Major League Baseball will not recognize it until late in the signing period, for fear of a domino effect of over-slot bonuses, which of course will happen anyway.

Some have called this the "Jason Heyward effect," referring to the Braves' first-round pick in 2007, also a year in which the slots were reduced by ten percent. The Braves and Heyward agreed early to a deal for the previous year's slot, but could not announce the signing until the deadline approached. "It's monumentally stupid," said one front-office official. "Everybody talks to each other, everybody knows who is going to sign for what, all this does is hinder a kid's development."

I guess every team wants to "pretend" to play by the rules, until they can claim an 11th hour necessity to spend more money. At least that's the illusion that MLB wants to create. With as close as Minor is supposed to be to the majors, missing half a season is a big deal, so yeah -- this is monumentally stupid.

Speaking of Jason Heyward, Goldstein also passes along this note in another column about how hot Heyward is in double-A:

In his first 10 Double-A games, the 19-year-old outfielder is batting .417/.476/.639. He's suddenly developing at a tremendous pace, and one has to wonder if he's suddenly in line for a September look, as one of the reasons he stayed with the big league team so long this spring is that manager Bobby Cox just liked watching him play so much.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense for the Braves to see if Heyward can (a) hit major league pitching and (b) help them in any potential playoff run. If he keeps hitting .400, then, yeah, he'll be up.

Meanwhile, our 2nd pick in this year's draft (3rd round), David Hale, signed for exact 2009 slot money -- $405,000.

The Braves have now signed 18 of their first 22 picks. Along with Minor, 6th round pick Ryan Wooley, 15th round pick Bennett Pickar, and 22nd round pick Ryan Weber remain unsigned.

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Is there any precedent

for a player moving from High-A to AAA in the same season. I mean, a cup of coffee in the majors in September, fine, but if he goes a month at .400 in AA, would it make sense just to send him to AAA? See if it is more of a challenge?

Thoughts?

by Andy Braves Fan on Jul 17, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought the same thing

Let him play at AA until the end of the month, then call him up to Gwinnett in August and if he’s still taking call him up in September.

What’s the worst that could happen?

2009 Atlanta Braves Motto: We ♥ leaving RISP AND Omar Minaya!

by mvhsbball on Jul 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*raking

2009 Atlanta Braves Motto: We ♥ leaving RISP AND Omar Minaya!

by mvhsbball on Jul 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see it happening...

But he could let his accomplishment go to his head and go all Andruw on us. (I don’t say Francoeur because I just don’t think Heyward has epic suck in him.)

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AAA is never home to prospects

Francouer and McCann both skipped AAA and went from AA to big leagues. Furcal went from high A to majors in one year (and ROY). I’m fairly certain Andruw skipped AAA as well since he was in the bigs at 19 years old.

AAA is not where you put the best prospects, it’s more of a “holding cell” if you will for AAAA players (Chris Burke) and injury backups (Barton, Blanco, etc). The only reason you do see the occasional big time prospect (i.e. Hanson) is that they’re just biding their time until the big league calls. It’s really not a good league as an indicator of major league ability.

by ghost of tom thobe on Jul 17, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then again...

One of the specific reasons the Braves moved their AAA team to Gwinnett was so their top kids could play in a nice new park and be very close for scouts to come see.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 17, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention that it’s built with the same specs, so the players are essentially playing in Atlanta

by acie4mvp on Jul 18, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all, Andruw Jones did play in AAA.

Second of all, this ridiculousness about how AAA isn’t where prospects go is so old and incorrect and been proven wrong in so many places it makes me wonder if you’re actually Furhman Bisher.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Jul 18, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK...

The thought that prospects don’t go to AAA at all might be wrong, but if you look at the roster of a AAA club and one of a AA club, the AA club is likely to have more guys who still are viewed as having a chance to stick in the majors.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 18, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s completely speculative and in no way provable. In fact, I’d say that since 2/3 to 3/4 of any AAA team has guys who have already played in the majors, and seeing as how once you’ve gotten there you have a lot better shot of going back and sticking, this statement just seems faulty.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Jul 19, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe andruw did it in 1996 and then he hit two homers in the world series and had a productive major league career

by yondaime4 on Jul 17, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m for sure going to be rooting for him to reach the MLB this year. In the offseason no rational poster believed that Heyward could make it to the bigs this year let alone the start of next year, but now….

To be this would be the best case scenario because it:
a. Would allow us to have two solid OF options and allow us to feel comfortable filling the third with any one of DIaz/Church/Schafer. Then that would allow us to, instead of paying heavily for an impact OFer, pick up Huddy’s option and still have cash to hold onto Soriano and perhaps a setup man to go along with him (Hawkins, Grabow, Wagner, Lyon, Betancourt, etc or even just Gonzo).
b. Would, heck, allow us to watch him everyday. Thats enough for me.

by bbxxj on Jul 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing that I'm really impressed with...

Is that not only are they both hitting in AA, but they brought their solid fundamental approaches with them. Obviously a small sample size, but:
Freeman: 11 G, 3 BB, 2 K
Heyward: 10 G, 4 BB, 2 K
 
That’s a good sign.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not only did they bring it with them, the both seem to have improved since they got to AA. Just a great sign of maturity.

by yondaime4 on Jul 17, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but I also thought some of that could be attributed to their rep.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 17, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's laughing now?
Dunn would be a good fit,but they need to start the youngsters(Heyward,Shaffer,and even Hanson).There is no reason to wait any longer.

by fatazfoot on Jan 29, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Heyward,and Shaffer need to be here now!!

by fatazfoot on Feb 1, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

He fucking knew this would happen. That guy’s amazing…like Nostradamus.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Jul 17, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“and even Hanson”…always loved that one. He’s more like the guy from Rain Man.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Jul 18, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please Please Please announce the damn signing of Minor.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jul 18, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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