You frickin’ kidding me? They make more money per start than most people make in a year. They are all fulfilling contractual obligations to the Braves, which, in one way or another, they CHOSE to agree to. There are lots of other people that deserve your pity WAY more than any of those guys. Jeez.

Well um.

yea

so.

yea.

what would be funny is if we did this and came back a better team some how. lol

like trading those SP’s for a 2B and a OF’er. Our offense becomes amazing with horrible pitching we will look like the Rangers

notice Vasquez pouting in the dugout after he was removed from the game? I am wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

Another Northern posting about the Braves, an NYC Braves fan I almost fell out of my chair with laughter.

It is not Lowe, JJ or Vasquez fault. JJ & Vasquez have had what 5 runs for them in their last what 3 or four starts combined ????

Yes the offense is bad, an without it we cannot make the playoffs or get to five hundred. We have to start worrying about next season when we can dump so over paid arb eligible guys like K.J, Bennett, and Frenchy to save some cash.

Huddy is going to be interesting situation this offseason but I still think we bring him back especially if he comes back in August and looks like the huddy of old and at a price of 12million for one season that still is not that high given the cost of arms on the open market today.

Guys like Soriano, and Gonzo are not going to be cheap either so I hope we just let Soriano walk and keep moylan whom is still arb eligible so we can resign Gonzo.

Now, I know spectulating on trades gets old, but I have just been going from team to team, thinking about some options that really wouldn’t be TOOO much of a stretch. First of all, I think it would be dumb to trade for someone that isn’t somewhat proven. We don’t really need many propects, we have those. I see our options are obviously outfield, but what about first base. Kotchman is a whizz with the glove, a pretty good hitter, and on a great contract, could be catch the eyes of several teams. Many teams are always trying to cut budget. The Twins are known for selling players for prospects. What if we took a serious stab at Morneau. Kotchman and a couple mid to high prospects might be able to get him. Or eve Kubel from that team. He is not proven to the extent of Morneau, but has gotten better each year out, and is having a very good year. I still think we should look at Matt Holliday, a perfect middle of thie lineup guy that could hold down left field for a long time if they could resign him after the season. It may be an extreme long shot, but Adrian Gonzalez from the Padres would be a good guy. He is proably on too good of a contract for the Padres to trade him, but this is the level guy that we need. We really don’t need a second level player, that is more of the same. To get a high level cleanup hitter, we are going to have to pay the price, and I think it is time to pay it. Besides prospects, the only thing I can see to trade is Javy or Lowe, Frenchy, Soriano or Gonzalez, Johnson if he has any value at all. I would NOT trade Chipper, McLouth or McCann, or any of our young arms. Its getting close to the All Star game and if a move is not made soon, I don’t see the Braves offense being good enough for a push. At the deadline, or after the season, one pitcher will probably have to be moved. Lowe, Vazquez or Hudson will have to be traded or not resigned. That and expiring contracts may be enough to get a free agent outfielder. I am just scrolling down a list or potential free agents, not sure if it is updated, but here is what I found ( not a long list) . Jason Bay, Carl Crawford, Jermaine Dye, Matt Holliday, Vlad (although a little old), Abreu, DeRosa even. Obviously the last few of those would be temporary, but are an upgrade from what we got out there. Crawford if hasn’t already, will either resigne with the Rays, or get a huge contract from some other team. I would say that Bay, Holliday, Crawford, Dye would be our top options. I Jason Bay is out there, but I have heard Texiera money for him, so scratch him off the list. Crawford isn’t a power guy, but Crawford and McLouth at the top of the lineup could make a world of difference as well. All and all, we don’t need much really, one more guy, but that guy is going to have to be really good to make any difference with this team.

Sorry, I didn’t know I was auditioning for an grammar job. Guess I’ll take it by the library and have someone proofread and fix it for me. Maybe some pictures would help some some of you that don’t understand.

cbwilk. don’t use the word winey. you’re not helping … just making things worse.

aside from that nonsense I don’t see a big player coming to our ball club like wcubmac’s post describes. i don’t see us getting much in return for kj or fyf even if we pair them together. their is no leader on the team and I haven’t been impressed by mac or chip this year.

whiney*

Thanks Roy, I’ll break it up a little next time. I know that we won’t get anything for FYF or KJ, they would have to be add on’s. Mac and Chipper are both having good years, I would have to agree with bravesfan203, neither one’s really showing any leadership. I think part of the problem is Chipper and Anderson are really the two that have played on winning teams. Its been a while since Chipper has, and Anderson is new, not in a leadership postion, or seems to want to lead.

I just seems like a circus sometimes on the field. So many bonehead plays by Kelly Johnson, Escobar out there in a world of his own, sometimes is seems FYF is lost out there in his own world. That kind of stuff you just didn’t see in the past, or at least not me. They have lost the last few years, but I never pointed to the lack of focus. This year, Ive seen stuff that i have never seen Braves teams do. Of course, Escobar has been getting scolded, and Johnson is playing by default.